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@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture Год назад
If you could apply one simple fix to any episode of Doctor Who, what would it be?
@lukeskywalker8543
@lukeskywalker8543 Год назад
Give 12 his sonic in series 8
@minicle426
@minicle426 Год назад
Not treating the Sonic Screwdriver as some magic wand.
@robertfeld5829
@robertfeld5829 Год назад
Mm, that's a tricky one. Okay, here goes - 1, Don't give the writer job to a moron who doesn't have a clue. 2, if you're going to have more than one character in the TARDIS, develop them, don't let them stand about like shop window dummies. Ryan, Graham, and Yaz fit that bill because Chibby didn't know how to write their characters. 3, for the love of GOD, stop treating that stupid screwdriver as a magic fix-it because the writer's too lazy to come up with a better solution. 4, Stop running around. 5, Bring back more Time Lords. The Master is a boring waste of space. He gets dull very quickly. 6, MORE ALTERNATE TIMELINES AND TIME TRAVEL; ironically, we don't get many of them. Doctor Who could do with a multiverse tale featuring different Doctors. 7, The Timeless Child and Fugitive Doctors were poorly developed. Stop giving characters and not developing them. 8, When Flux was on, Storm and Azure were pointless. 9, Lay off the classic villains for a couple of seasons, and redesign the Cybermen to get rid of their current image. They were seen as big-silver robot people who were aimless in the classic series, and now they are aimless. 10, Be more imaginative with the villains. 11, What happened to the universe following the Flux???
@zaarthwren
@zaarthwren Год назад
@@robertfeld5829 I agree everything unless you’re implying retiring the Daleks as they are my favorite part of Doctor Who and honestly I want more of them grander scales, invasion sequences of both individuals in formation and fleets, new types, more power, more lore, etc. Also I’d say for bbc to return the funding for the Classic who complete series Blu-Rays, animated restorations of lost episodes we have the audio tracks for, and EAGLEMOSS COLLECTION FIGURINES
@robertfeld5829
@robertfeld5829 Год назад
@@zaarthwren No, I don't mean retiring the Daleks for long, but give them a chance to be recharged. The Sontarans and Weeping Angels received that treatment, and they came back grander. I also think the Dalek Paradigm was handled poorly and needs to make sense.
@BoomStickization
@BoomStickization Год назад
Ellie touched on one of the great things about early Angels. I always thought that the reason we did not see them move was specifically BECAUSE they were on-screen. That is, they can't move when they are being watched, and WE were watching them.
@christopheralthouse6378
@christopheralthouse6378 Год назад
Yep Annnnnnnd then Moffatt ruined that TOO within the same Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone episode with the whole "that which holds the image of an angel becomes itself an angel" which is scary only until you realize that your OWN TV isn't becoming a Weeping Angel like the one IN THE EPISODE...😵‍💫🙄😣 "Blink" works because the threat is kept *just* plausible enough to make you wonder if it is real. As you mentioned, when the Weeping Angels are seen on-screen, they don't move...same as when any of the characters themselves looks upon one of them. This makes you feel as though the Angels are being frozen even when YOU'RE looking at them, making this threat that surely HAS to be fictional feel...somewhat *less* fictional...and thus, more frightening...😬 "Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone", on the other hand, breaks...more like completely destroys...that immersion first by introducing that whole "image of an Angel" plotline (which one can clearly see ISN'T happening irl, making the threat already too obviously fictional) and then later by having that one Angel visibly move on-screen. Without that immersion, one becomes a simple observer with no investment within the story. We clearly see a video image of an Angel move on the TV screen within the episode as that TV holds the image of an Angel and has thus become one...but then, so is literally EVERY irl TV that people watched that episode ON and, to my knowledge and experience anyway, no one's irl TVs became Weeping Angels on the prowl sooooooooo....🤷 Add to that the Angel moving as we watch...so very clearly NOT affected by the viewers watching at home...and you now have a monster whose scariness THRIVED on that connection with the viewer now wholly DISCONNECTED from those same viewers and from there... Their threat became that of a paper tiger. One must find what works with these sorts of villains and stick to that... immersion was the core dynamic that worked for the Weeping Angels, much like the fascistic tendencies of the Daleks works as the core dynamic for them. Lose that and you risk losing the threat, simple as that.
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 Год назад
Loveit.
@Nicolas-lz6pg
@Nicolas-lz6pg Год назад
And thar's why Village of the angels is a better use of them (and probably one of the best episode of Flux)
@LadyDoomsinger
@LadyDoomsinger Год назад
@@christopheralthouse6378 To be fair, that "image of an Angel becomes and Angel" absolutely worked on me. To this day I can't bring myself to freeze-frame on the image of a Weeping Angel. Even a youtube thumbnail, or pausing a video for a few moments - I know it's ridiculous, but I always either close the tab or run the video a couple more seconds before pausing, just so they aren't on screen. But I agree with the point about them moving on screen. That pretty much ruined the concept.
@uncreativename4249
@uncreativename4249 Год назад
@@christopheralthouse6378 I like the "image of an Angel" plot line because it makes those episodes MORE scary for me. Because even though I know in the back of my mind, it's fiction, every time an angel would appear on screen, I would get that boost of fear of "what if it comes through?" I think Moffat used that effect again with the Sleep monster and every time, I get that shot of adrenaline/heebie-jeebies that sticks with me for the next few episodes.
@Wizborg
@Wizborg Год назад
The thing I loved about Blink is that it got the audience involved. Even when noone else was looking, if the audience could see them, they couldn't move. It was a kind of immersive 4th wall break. When the angels moved, it broke that immersion.
@sanddagger36
@sanddagger36 Год назад
I always assumed the angels were not actually made of stone, they just turn to stone when observed. For that reason I thot watching them move you would be able to see their gowns flowing or they might actually change color. The fact that they are still stone even when moving, despite the long explanation of a quantum lock during blink is just disappointing.
@crowlord
@crowlord Год назад
100% this and I didn't even realise that's why I had a low-lying dislike of it. Now seeing them without the quantum lock... would have been special.
@CaritasGothKaraoke
@CaritasGothKaraoke Год назад
OMG you’re both right. If they’d looked like proper angels...
@Paradox-es3bl
@Paradox-es3bl Год назад
Could always retcon this episode with some wibbly wobbly mumbo jumbo, and then be like, "THESE are how the Angels without the Quantum Lock NORMALLY look."
@Creek932
@Creek932 Год назад
I’d prefer if we never saw them move at all. They’re scarier if you don’t know what they look like when you’re not looking at them.
@GeneralBoulder
@GeneralBoulder Год назад
If I remember reading correctly, the original angels were not stone but over time they started to take over statues themselves and become "stoney" so from then on they remain in the form they took over. Which is why the current angels we see are mostly stone when moving. Secondly I agree that for the audience, not seeing the angels move is much more scary, however, in the particular episode the doctor tells Amy she needs to move "like" she can see as to fool the angels but when she falls and flails around the angels start to question if they are even being looked at. So for the story I think that was a good decision, except the doctor was saying this on an open radio so it's stupid that the angels got fooled in the first place lol.
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. Год назад
I’ve never had an issue with the Abzorbaloff episode because I got straight away that it was a comedy episode, it was being played for laughs, so I did.
@lillynichols9884
@lillynichols9884 Год назад
The reason that we didn't see Mels until "Let's Kill Hitler", was that time was rewritten. Actually, Amy's life got rewritten a LOT. First it was just her, her aunt, ...and the crack in her wall, then Rory never existed, then Rory came back ...as a plastic, Roman centurion. Then they rebooted the universe, and she had a mother, and a little father. It's not surprising that Mels wasn't shown earlier! Amy and Rory's timeline is a •mess•!!
@AhsimNreiziev
@AhsimNreiziev Год назад
The suggestion was to show Mels at the beginning of _The Impossible Astronaut_ , though. Maybe I'm forgetting something, but at what point between _The Impossible Astronaut_ and _Let's Kill Hitler_ was time/Amy's life rewritten? IIRC, the real reason Mels doesn't show up before LKH is because of production reasons: Series 6 was split into two halves, and Steven Moffat didn't even start writing _Let's Kill Hitler_ until well after _A Good Man Goes To War_ was shot. Nor was casting done before that time. This probably also explains why the scene from _The Wedding of River Song_ was greenscreened, instead of being filmed at the same time as the scene from _The Impossible Astronaut_ .
@uncreativename4249
@uncreativename4249 Год назад
They could've improved the Graham talk SO MUCH simply by, instead of having her say "I'm socially awkward and don't know how to deal with this", have her just put an awkward hand on his shoulder. It would have shown an attempt to comfort, while also SHOWING that she's socially awkward and they'd still get the effect of showing that even the Doctor doesn't always have the right words for the situation.
@stevenkarmazenuk2540
@stevenkarmazenuk2540 Год назад
As far as the Doctor not going to see Joan, we both know that he doesn't "do" goodbyes very well, and if he's parting ways with someone he truly had feelings for, he's always afraid of being hurt, by seeing them again.
@theranter
@theranter Год назад
👆This.
@Vassilinia
@Vassilinia Год назад
Exactly. I'm 100% sure they knew this, but just put it in anyway for content/because they needed a point on the list/to create viewer engagement.
@pjmorley5785
@pjmorley5785 Год назад
Agreed - plus this was likely less painful.
@danthemeegs8751
@danthemeegs8751 Год назад
Not really. He revisited ROSE during the farewell tour, his most painful separation of all. So there was nothing stopping him from going to check in on Joan, even just from afar.
@rmack562
@rmack562 Год назад
IIRC Joan didn’t like the doctor cause in her eyes he “took away the man she loved, wore his face and asked her to run away with him” she may not have said it but she may see the doctor as a monster and never wanted to see him again. Visiting her granddaughter might’ve him wanting to check up on her but knowing the hostility he possibly would have faced.
@DiscoTimelordASD
@DiscoTimelordASD Год назад
Joan had a grand daughter, which implies at some point she had a daughter (possibly through marriage) and moved on from John Smith. Seeing her happy with someone else and raising a family would have been extremely painfully for The Doctor to see. If he made an appearance to her I doubt it would have been well recieved and he knew that.
@tomperone9338
@tomperone9338 Год назад
I liked the scene with Joan's granddaughter. You get the sense that maybe the thought of seeing Joan again was simply too painful for him to handle.
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 Год назад
The Doctor often mentions that he/she lives on while everyone else dies, having shorter lives than a Time Lord/Lady.
@stephanierossmoine2743
@stephanierossmoine2743 Год назад
The doctor dosnt like endings
@lonellfletcher
@lonellfletcher Год назад
And painful for her as well
@lethalkitten7241
@lethalkitten7241 Год назад
I came here to make the same point.
@sweethavenmyparadiseforani5501
Thank you! Exactly! I totally agree.
@SixtyDoesStuff
@SixtyDoesStuff Год назад
The only one I disagree with is number 1, sort of, I think visiting Joan Redfern would have been a mistake because it would have hurt her. I do agree that visiting the identical twin great granddaughter at a book signing also didn't make sense, but that may have been a bone thrown to the actress from a very good two-parter getting to be a part of the farewell tour.
@Enigmanaut
@Enigmanaut Год назад
On Joan: I think he stayed away because it would be too painful for both the Doctor and Joan. And he may have been aware of this book telling the tale from previous time travels. But mostly, I want that scene to exist as is, because Jessica Hynes played it PERFECTLY. She's not looking when he says to make it out to the Doctor. She says that "that's what he called himself" line, then it hits her. She pauses. Steels herself, then looks up. She just sold the hell out of that moment exactly right. There is a bit of a flaw in the scene, though... she's signing the book, but her pen never touches the page. It's about a half an inch above it.
@phoebejean82
@phoebejean82 Год назад
Agree completely
@duncangibson6277
@duncangibson6277 Год назад
As someone who remembers Patrick Troughton's Doctor, I was surprised to see the criticism of the Christopher Ecclestone "Dalek" episode title. Even though it was inevitable that we would see a Dalek, the Doctor's reaction to meeting the Dalek in that darkened room was completely unexpected and electrifying. The Doctor, suddenly terrified of a Dalek? When the episode was first shown, I'm not sure that the viewers had really been made aware of The Time War where the Doctor had consigned all Daleks to their fate, but the Doctor's terror of being confronted with a Dalek was excruciatingly real. That moment was incredibly powerful and that's what stands out for me from that episode, and I re-lived that moment when I saw it again on DVD many years later. I could understand if you had commented on the bit where the Dalek goes literally opens up for Rose and goes all gooey, but the initial reaction from the Doctor was so unexpected and visceral it was chilling.
@Michelle_Schu-blacka
@Michelle_Schu-blacka Год назад
I thought most of these would be nitpicking, but they were all really good points with great solutions.
@ventrue24601
@ventrue24601 Год назад
The Timeless Child could have worked, if it was revealed to have been The Master; the experimentation/testing done on them would have also added to reasons for his behavioral....concerns. Also how he has been able to continue to survive beyond his original regeneration limits so effectively.
@KatMEW93Productions
@KatMEW93Productions Год назад
Tbf it would have still worked with 13 (or 13 AND the Master both being the "timeless children") if it had been written better and if 13 (or both) had been taken from the future, brought into the past and they went through their respective regen cycles from 1st (and 1st master) to them now in the present. A better plot/explanation would have been the time lords only have one life (this is about 1000 or so years, so much longer than humans but still not forever) and after interfering in time and space, they create enemies and are facing extinction. So they go into the future, find the child/children and steal them, take them back to the past to harvest their regen abilities but only 13 and the Master survive the experiments and thus are the two timeless children that save the future of the time lords through regeneration. Their memories are wiped and they go to the academy together, raised as time lords, do their stuff etc etc and become who they are from first doctor/first master to present doctor/master. Technically, that doesn't disrupt canon as well all know both doctor and master were kids at some point as the 10th doctor mentioned it (and we saw young master too). They both obviously live oblivious of these memories until the master (Sacha) just happens to stumble upon it/tortures it out of the time lords after finding them. Granted, this would have probably had to have been done over the course of a full series much like the "prime minister/master" storyline. But at least it would have been a much more thought out and planned storyline than what we got. Throwing in a phrase like "the timeless child" and then giving us a hastily put together episode that is also mashed in with other things going on too. It would also account for no other mention of this information in previous series and could also explain the master's madness (possibly due to not being compatible with the time vortex) and also why the doctor ran away (subconsciously knowing they don't belong with the time lords but not knowing why)
@lis_mayakovsky
@lis_mayakovsky Год назад
I've been saying that for ages, god, you're so right!!! It ruined the idea of the doctor for me, as now it feels like every sacrifice of regeneration energy was sort of in vain.
@28russ
@28russ 10 месяцев назад
Woulda been better if they'd just never made that shit at all.
@ensaracar9608
@ensaracar9608 8 месяцев назад
the episode is called Timeless Children, which could mean that Timeless Child Bi-Generated in the past one of them became The Master other The Doctor would even make more sense I think.
@28russ
@28russ 8 месяцев назад
​@@ensaracar9608It should just be erased from canon and fkn burnt. They only did it so they could retcon the Dr into being every fkn race, colour and different genders multiple times and not a white British male the whole time to pander to woke bs. They tried to completely rewrite 60 years of Dr Who history and now that Disney owns it Dr Who is dead. The Dr getting told off for misgendering aliens. Piss off. What a load of utter bs. A lot of old fans like me couldn't give a shit about it now. I'd rather watch old eps with Tom Baker than the shit they're making now. What a fkn joke. Smh 🙄🤦‍♂💩💩🤮
@fordcooke722
@fordcooke722 Год назад
I always thought that 10 was visiting Joan and his great granddaughter, which made it even more sad for him
@rebeccatompkins
@rebeccatompkins Год назад
"Flux" felt like it should have been a feature length film. Yes, refine to one antagonist for sure. Jack not dying was refreshing twist yet it did take something away from Jack.
@CaritasGothKaraoke
@CaritasGothKaraoke Год назад
A feature length film about a train wreck maybe. And no, I don’t hate Chibnall. I liked a lot of what he did. But not flux.
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 Год назад
Especially since in one Torchwood story he gets killed multiple times.
@basilbrush9075
@basilbrush9075 Год назад
The weeping angels were shown to move in 'blink' - the silhoutte moves and holds its human form. You can see why the doctor wouldn't visit Joan when she directly told him how much that would have hurt her.
@johntaggart979
@johntaggart979 Год назад
I agree about Joan; it also would have wracked the Doctor too much. My initial thought was that it was a cop-out on the part of the show, but the truth is it was a realistic and very emotional cop-out on the part of the Time Lord.
@CaritasGothKaraoke
@CaritasGothKaraoke Год назад
she said he should have stalked her. ok it sounds bad that way but YKWIM.
@williamfarnham5452
@williamfarnham5452 Год назад
I agree with the idea he avoided it due to the emotional pain on both sides, another reason but less likely could have been that maybe the Doctor and Joan had a closer encounter than we think and perhaps the Doctor is checking in on the history of his old flame while also observing his own descendant. Adds an added depth to the scene in my opinion. Not likely as it may be, as even 1 visit to a hospital would highlight the Doctors progeny as odd if they inherited the Dual Hearts but then again there are people in real life occasionally born with additional functional organs like a man with 3 lungs and a man with 5 kidneys, no one with 2 hearts to date unless conjoined twins as far as I'm aware though, but if there were someone with 2 hearts it may end up considered a freak birth defect rather than proof of intergalactic hanky panky.
@AnimeFiend176
@AnimeFiend176 Год назад
I think the explanation for the Angels moving in Flesh and Stone is actually based on how the audience's eyes work with our brains to process visual information. Apparently our eyes sort of frame skip, and the slowness of the angel's movement is down to them moving in the instant we don't process. Their actual in-story movement is after all meant to be very fast.
@chrisknight2631
@chrisknight2631 Год назад
I think the scene with Joan’s great granddaughter (or whatever she was), was actually the best scene in that episode. I thought it was perfect. The look on his face and the question “was she happy in the end?” told me he knew it would be too painful for her, and that he was still feeling incredibly guilty about the whole thing.
@tenzhitihsien888
@tenzhitihsien888 Год назад
I, for one, liked the Mighty Morphing Dalek Rangers. I hope to one day see them combine into the dreaded Dalek Zord.
@user-rv7nz4jv5m
@user-rv7nz4jv5m 8 месяцев назад
I found the angels moving incredibly creepy, still gives me chills, with that blank stare. I took at as in-between their true form and stone form as they weren't sure if Amy could see.
@AndrewLakeUK
@AndrewLakeUK Год назад
I think you're wrong about "Dalek". It was about suspense, not a twist. We knew what was down there, but the Doctor didn't. If it was all about the twist, it wouldn't be worth watching twice; knowing what is coming and seeing it dawn on the Doctor makes it rewatchable.
@RaggedyDoctor11
@RaggedyDoctor11 Год назад
I’ve got another one, LET ME KEEP MY FEZ!
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture Год назад
CALM DOWN MATT
@BMakabre
@BMakabre Год назад
It says a lot that the Paradigm Daleks have been improved by fan artworks and fan animations - especially in colours (one fan animation had a nice menacing black coloured Paradigm Dalek leading a force of bronze Daleks). It was a fan animation where you get to see the alternate weapon within the hatch at the back in use (something part of the design and plan but never used).
@hermiona1147
@hermiona1147 Год назад
Not visiting Joan is idk reasonable? She didn't actually know the real Doctor, she only knew John. Seeing him again would cause her pain and I don't think she would want to see him anyway. Obviously we know that its the same actress but I think he wanted to see someone close to her without actually seeing her in person.
@danthemeegs8751
@danthemeegs8751 Год назад
But he wouldn't have to talk to her though, he could just observe from afar, like he did with Donna.
@gibbnasta
@gibbnasta Год назад
I think he just wanted to know she did move on from the heartbreak he caused inadvertently. He got a bonus that came with heartache when she looked just like Joan.
@gibbnasta
@gibbnasta Год назад
@@danthemeegs8751 Yes, but doing the same with her would have taken away thematically and emotionally from when he visits Donna but can't interact with her.
@abbeyhall4624
@abbeyhall4624 Год назад
Nice to see criticism aimed at the revival era and the simple things that could be done better. About time it was done!
@charlestownsend9280
@charlestownsend9280 Год назад
When it comes to the paradim daleks if they'd replaced the yellow and orange colours with black and grey and tone down the red I think it could have worked. As for Jack dying, that wasn't an issue for me, he doesn't have to die in every episode he's in, just cause you can do something doesn't mean that you should and nu who has a habit of overuseing everything, so for them to not do something is good. When it comes to flux, I'd say just give it the full run that it was intended to have. But outside problems prevented that. Considering that Moffat seems to be from the same school as jj abrams, mels would never have been shown before let's kill Hitler because that means actually knowing what they mystery box is when they begin writing it. But yeah it would have been a good idea to introduce her earlier. I didn't mind 13 responding to Graham that why, it humanised her doctor and maybe it could have been better if it were different but I also like how the doctor isn't an endless well of answers amd that sometimes they don't know what to say or how to make things better. Or just don't have a stupidly drawn out farewell tour because that was just awful.
@joer.g8568
@joer.g8568 Год назад
The whole “perhaps don’t have that scene” quote, could work with half of these scenes
@samanthafairweather9186
@samanthafairweather9186 Год назад
I agree with everything you've said.
@tardis_treasures
@tardis_treasures Год назад
I think the problem with Moffat story's were that he changed direction of where he took his original ideas. The river song astronaut scene I believe was reshot because he changed his mind how that was going to be done, the paradigm daleks weren't followed through, and melody too was just a new idea he threw in. He made it quite jarring. Chibnall too is quilty of this with propping up the tooth face people then never hearing from them again.
@StingNicks
@StingNicks Год назад
In the episode "Dalek" I love the easter egg throwback to the episode with Sylvester McCoy where the UK found out that even though Daleks could conquer the galaxy and be all powerful that they could after all climb stairs !!! (The Sun had a massive report on this the day afterwards after all, it was well known as I grew up that they couldn't climb stairs)
@ProfArmitage218
@ProfArmitage218 Год назад
The child who designed the Abzorbaloff envisioned it as being the size of a bus, which probably would have made it seem more menacing too, if only because that size would have probably resulted in it being less humanoid in shape.
@antney7745
@antney7745 Год назад
The original concept made me think of classic B-movie horror film "The Blob" instead of the i'M sO cRaZy streaker-wannabe we ended up with.
@CaritasGothKaraoke
@CaritasGothKaraoke Год назад
and it’s not like they couldn’t make something big like that. there’s the meat thing in torchwood.
@Druklet
@Druklet Год назад
I hope the kid is ok. I feel bad that the episode is so hated.
@OddNess9339
@OddNess9339 10 месяцев назад
I think the episode titled 'Dalek' should have been called 'Enemy Mine'. Would have fit the theme of the episode, and the opening with them seeing the classic Cyberman head would give a hint that it's a returning enemy but not which one. There are a lot of old Doctor Who enemies that could have been used.
@michaelpopely4408
@michaelpopely4408 Год назад
Dalek could have had the title “Survivor” being that of both the Dalek and the Doctor
@azbanspace
@azbanspace Год назад
The mistake with the chonky daleks, was to make the reveal indoors with bright lighting and with a low ceiling room. They would have looked more impressive if they were shot outside. The outside light would have toned them down just enough to make them look bright but not toy-like
@PyroNine9
@PyroNine9 Год назад
My first thought (and comment) when the bright colored Daleks were revealed was: iDaleks!
@SNMG7664
@SNMG7664 Год назад
Was the idea not very specifically that Mels *DIDN'T* grow up with Amy and Rory until their personal timeline was altered because of Mels? The Doctor mentioned having not heard of her before (and being confused by that), Mels said that they got to raise her after all. It was clearly an edit Mels made to their personal histories - why it was always that way for Amy and Rory but new for the Doctor in that crop circle scene in the field.
@BuddyC99
@BuddyC99 Год назад
We really missed a good Arc between 9, 10 and 11 all knowing the future of Jack. In the Christmas of the Doctor just a nod we could've had the doctor remember a line from the Head of Bo about being alive longer than he imagined
@phoebeburt2668
@phoebeburt2668 Год назад
*Face of boe
@BuddyC99
@BuddyC99 Год назад
@@phoebeburt2668 I read this has the face of borf and Instantly thought of the swedish chef has the Face of Bo
@ftumschk
@ftumschk Год назад
Thanks for this interesting and thought-provoking video. Very well presented, too!
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Juanelo000001
@Juanelo000001 Год назад
What was better(or worse) about the wipping angels was that we see them like stone, because they are quantum locked to be like that when you are seeing them, but we didn't knew if they changed they apperance somehow when they moved. They could be some fleshy of some sort of shadows monsters that just turn into stone when something is looking at them. Seeing them move kust like a stone make them a LOT less scary. They became just a regular monster/alien. And their speed alse became a lot slower, considering what was show in their first episode.
@antney7745
@antney7745 Год назад
Yeah, the implication being that they were MADE of stone and not "something" that becomes quantum locked when observed.
@lauradavies8838
@lauradavies8838 7 месяцев назад
I think 10 visiting her granddaughter makes so much sense!! For the vast majority (until 11 told us he visited everyone) of his visit he stayed within the 21st century, meaning he wasn’t entirely sure how much time he had (assuming that the further in/back in time he goes the longer it takes) meaning he wouldn’t of been able to make it to see her.
@lauradavies8838
@lauradavies8838 7 месяцев назад
Furthermore, it is without doubt that 10&9 were the most distancing given how fresh the time war was for them. The hurt 10 would have to face knowing that was yet again, another loss of love he had. Not to mention his own struggle with immortality and the life he could have had, where life would seem enjoyable and settled. Unlike life as a time lord, as he mentions to Jack on plenty of accounts. I think it was very psychologically necessary for the character of ten to play out his connection in this particular circumstance, to see a generation of the woman he once loved who only knows him in admiration rather than hurt, anger and resentment. When you look at it, in this regard it feel VERY NEVESSSARY and well done RTD 💋💋
@lauradavies8838
@lauradavies8838 7 месяцев назад
Essentially this interaction took note of all the troubles the doctor faced • immortality • love • yearning of another life • yearning of a lack of responsibility • ability to feel human (emotionally) something that is ADMIRED across all newhu doctors
@tzarg
@tzarg 7 месяцев назад
my reasoning for it was that Joane wouldn't ever want to see him again (since he has the face of John Smith)
@WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck
I disagree with number 1, that scene was perfect. Joan didn't want to see him again, it was too painful for her to look at him.
@robertjohnson592
@robertjohnson592 Год назад
Jack should have used his ability to absorb the power of the prison shorting it out then when he woke up they could escape.
@so1opiniao
@so1opiniao Год назад
Please, make a list about *top 10 episode titles that gave us spoilers!* For instance, "Rise of the Cybermen", "The Sontaran stratagem", "Dalek", "Time of the Angels", "The Zygon invasion" and "Legend of the Sea Devils".
@johnyesjustjohn
@johnyesjustjohn Год назад
I mean, any title that's "(noun) of the (name of alien here)" is gonna be a spoiler. Unless it's the first time we meet that alien, like "Terror of the Zygons" where Zygons made their debut. Also "The Android Invasion" where the Doctor and Sarah spend two episodes wondering what's going on and we're all sitting there saying, "It's ANDROIDS. It's in the TITLE." Also also, there's something to be said for distinctive titles like that. There's one serial called "The Visitation," and the title gives zero hints on what it's about.
@that.man.js.yawned
@that.man.js.yawned Год назад
Actually the Weeping Angels move at least twice in Flesh and stone, cos one of them grabs the Doctor's jacket.
@kieran7675
@kieran7675 Год назад
The point about let's kill Hitler just reminds me of the scene when Amy says Rory is gay, Rory is like no I'm not and then just fully sprints out of the house 😂
@andrewdreasler428
@andrewdreasler428 Год назад
6:36 "Almost as if Chris Chibnel didn't know what to do with him." Here's a wild idea:Chibbers had NO CLUE what to do with ANY of the characters in Doctor Who: hero, villian, or bystander.
@SamButler22
@SamButler22 Год назад
Absolutely did not notice the differences/green screen for the impossible astronaut stuff
@davesuneyes
@davesuneyes Год назад
Nah, the weeping angels moving like that...terrified me! It was incredibly done
@brinnrobinson17
@brinnrobinson17 Год назад
“Dalek” WAS originally going to be called “Absence of the Daleks” (and featured a single Toclafane instead)
@odonovan
@odonovan 7 месяцев назад
For "don't show the weeping angels moving," how about "don't show the weeping angels at all?" They're just about the most absurd characters I've ever seen. It's already been shown all you have to do is face two of them toward each other and they're frozen in place. Likewise, if you have a bunch of them chasing you, turn the first couple around and let them and the rest following stare each other down. Also, I find it STUPID that no one, on any of their episodes has said, "blink one eye at a time." And, the best one is, The Doctor carries a sonic device which has been shown to produce VERY powerful sound waves. Sound causes vibrations which will crack stone, so the sonic should be able to eliminate the angels en masse, with relative ease.
@queensmum
@queensmum Год назад
Yeah it really bothered me that the Grand serpent was not just Swarm in disguise - like it would have made a great deal of sense with the plot, and helped tie the stories together better. I was actually waiting for a scene where he transforms/disintegrates into Swarm, they even laid the groundwork for this by having Azure do the same early on in the arc. Like maybe Vinder mortally wounds him then he becomes Swarm. A five minute scene to tie everything together. The actors even have similar physicalities so it wouldn’t have been much of a stretch.
@vinicius.g.h2039
@vinicius.g.h2039 Год назад
I think that the name of the episode "Dalek" could be something like "The Last Survivor" or even a bigger title like "The Last Survivor Of The Time War" or just "The Last Survivor Of The War" (Sorry if something is wrong, english is not my first language)
@sammychelseasc6223
@sammychelseasc6223 Год назад
Metaltron would have been a horrendous title for Dalek 😂
@Cally.Summer
@Cally.Summer Год назад
Instead of faking the River Astronaut scene there could be a couple of possibilities. You could shoot "empty" scenes showing the backgrounds for later greenscreen replacement. Or have someone else in the suit with a green stocking over the face (which can be later keyed out and River keyed in via greenscreen).
@marquisofcarrabass
@marquisofcarrabass Год назад
The Scene between 13 and Graham needed just a simple touch, and a sentence like, "I don't know. I can't control everything. But I promise you, you won't be alone."
@RetroBonesMA
@RetroBonesMA Год назад
Yeah... The bit about the weeping angels was a big one for me. I appreciated that the angels don't move because we, the audience, were observing them.
@MrSukram777
@MrSukram777 Год назад
I agree that replacing the Serpent with Swarm and Azure would've been far better.
@erikanders3343
@erikanders3343 Год назад
8:15 I like the title 'The Survivors' which was a working title
@cardinalhamneggs5253
@cardinalhamneggs5253 10 месяцев назад
04:20 The f**k you say? These are my favorite version of the Daleks! I’m mad they were underused! I’m also mad they passed over green for the Dalek Scientist and made it orange instead.
@basiliskboy17
@basiliskboy17 Год назад
for Redford I kind of understand because it's kind of implied she never wants to see him again. In a sense he's maintained that boundary and given her the space she needed while also learning her fate.
@Warioer
@Warioer Год назад
A title like cold casing would be absolutely perfect for dalek
@valoraknightingale9906
@valoraknightingale9906 Год назад
The Grand Serpent and Azure should have been the main antagonist and be one and the same character. As in we see this Grand Serpent throughout the run but don't know his connection to Azure and then in a Red Skull from Captain America moment he rips off his skin to reveal he was Azure all along.
@richardcharlwood9997
@richardcharlwood9997 Год назад
What reveal in ‘Dalek’? The Dalek was on the front cover of the Radio Times, hard to keep THAT a secret. The reason behind it was that the BBC wanted the Daleks in episode one, but RTD said that it would be better mid-season to give the show a ‘second relaunch’.
@Saidriak
@Saidriak 7 месяцев назад
I always got the impression the reason he went to Joan’s grand daughter rather than the real deal was because he was scared of disappointing or being seen by her but still wanted some closure
@TigerofRobare
@TigerofRobare 7 месяцев назад
I remember watching Flesh and Stone and the reaction of myself and seemingly everyone else in the world was not "We can see the angels move, they're not scary anymore" but "Ohmygod 'that which holds the image of an angel itself becomes an angel' so they're going to crawl out of my laptop and even staring at them won't help because they will also crawl out of my eyes."
@overtheoverseer
@overtheoverseer Год назад
My fix would be changing the first ever serial, so that when Ian and Barbara are taken away in the TARDIS for the first time, they land on Skaro, so we can skip the 'Cave of Skulls' entirely. In my personal edit I made, it takes a lot longer for Susan to show up too, and all the extraneous stuff with the school is removed.
@r0nn0c0nn0r
@r0nn0c0nn0r 5 месяцев назад
I thought the reason the angels moved slowly was because, in that episode, they were not at full power. They had had their energy drained and were trying to get it back - which is why they moved more naturally
@joshuacurphey3242
@joshuacurphey3242 Год назад
I think from World War Three's next time trailer, a good majority of fans already knew the Daleks would be back. However, it's not like they didn't do that point, see when the Macra, the Silurians, the Great Intelligence and the Ice Warriors (who also weren't revealed in their next time trailers) first appeared in the Revived Era. Although I don't have much to comment on most of the other points (I'm not sure I agree with them or not), I agree with what the other commentors have said about the last point; Joan didn't want to see the Doctor again because he reminded her of John, so why go and check up on someone who doesn't even want you to be within their proximity when you could see a present day descendant of theirs who you're not particularly on "You may leave" terms with?
@aaronvasseur6559
@aaronvasseur6559 Год назад
I personally like the paradigm Daleks they made the Daleks feel fresh and different giving color coordinated ranks to them
@kennethkates3140
@kennethkates3140 Год назад
Honestly, a better title for the episode "Dalek" would have been "Survivor" with allusions to the Daleks throughout the episode.
@khatdubell
@khatdubell Год назад
The fact that you can see that people skipped #3 but went back for #4 makes me laugh
@CurtisRamer
@CurtisRamer Год назад
I'm new to WhoCulture, but really enjoying your videos. Thank you Do you have a video addressing why or how The Master went form helping The Dr. as Missy to trying to destroy The Dr. when played by Sacha Dhawan?
@WhoCulture
@WhoCulture Год назад
Hey, glad to have you with us! And yes, we recently discussed that subject in this video... 10 Doctor Who Controversies That Divide Fans: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ghNHGvhSGAg.html
@Kowalski_props
@Kowalski_props Год назад
A new name for dalek: one last survivor
@catmomchantel
@catmomchantel 10 месяцев назад
I think that having the angels move would be more suited to only Angels Take Manhattan but at the same time, having recently learned of how they did the costumes and makeup for the angels, I don’t fully hate the scene because the costuming was seriously impressive
@gestaltdude
@gestaltdude Год назад
The bit with Joan is one thing I have to disagree with. I mean, Dalek could have been The Enemy, leaving it nice and ambiguous as to exactly who the title was referring, eg Van Statten, the Dalek, or even Adam (if he';d been written differently). However, with Joan, knowing how hard it was for her to give him up, it is easy to picture the Doctor not wanting to make her life any harder than he already knew it would be, 2 world wars, the great depression...I could go on. Having your past love suddenly pop back into your life, no matter how happy one is, would have derailed everything, so it was best to find out how her life turned out at one remove.
@KatMEW93Productions
@KatMEW93Productions Год назад
I swear the whole River Song shoots the Doctor on the beach was so last minute and on the fly that that is why it was filmed later. No one will convince me that that was thought about back when The Impossible Astronaut was written. Sorry but if it was they'd have tried harder to either get back on location or do a better job at the green screen and the little details. Also for me 13 being "socially awkward" was just a massive cop out to avoid having a deep conversation about the "big C". It felt like Chibs wanted something really big to use as Graham's fear but then got near the end of the script and thought "oh, we can't talk about cancer in a family show" and so gave the Doctor the "socially awkward" line. Ngl if I'd voiced that kind of fear to a friend and they reacted that way, I'd probably never tell them anything again. If mentioning Cancer was such a "taboo" subject that Chibs should have picked a different fear for Graham. Personally, I think him seeing Ryan die and Grace telling him "you let him die, just like you let me die" would have been so chilling (but that's just my opinion) and then you could end it with 13 asking Graham if he's okay and Graham just saying "yeah, absolutely, Doc" and then trying to change the subject while 13 looks unconvinced
@dlake1224
@dlake1224 8 месяцев назад
I think this video would've been much better fixing bigger plot issues with Dr Who rather than small details in episodes. Small mistakes can be made, some of the bigger decisions that have slowly made the waters murkier are bigger issues for me. My personal issue is the idea that angels can teleport through pictures and videos, just feels a bit impossible to me and makes them a bit of a ridiculous enemy.
@Dragonblaster1
@Dragonblaster1 Год назад
“Dalek” is my favourite episode of New Who. The Dalek is absolutely devastating, the way Daleks should be.
@melisastone231
@melisastone231 9 месяцев назад
The last one was because he he didn't have enough time because he was regenerating, it's similar to running to the toilet because you need to throw up but then just barely missing the toilet, he probably wouldn't have made it before exploding in the TARDIS in the time vortex and therefore crashing in the vortex and we don't entirely know if he'd be stranded in some other time period or if he'd just straight up stop existing. Although that would be a pretty good plot twist 🤔
@douglasmcneil8413
@douglasmcneil8413 Год назад
It's hard to be afraid of a villain that has to just stand there like a statue, while you take its head off with a sledgehammer.
@vi818
@vi818 5 месяцев назад
Tbh i think that the difference between the two impossible astronaut scenes (apart from literal different mountains (seriously?)in the same place) can be easily written off as a way to give early pointers to fans that something had changed with river song between the first impossible astronaut scene and the second one.
@Druklet
@Druklet Год назад
Honestly, Blink was so good, I would have been happy to not see the angels again. I don't think they were used well at all in Moffat's era, (that's just me, wonderful if you loved their storylines!). Also, did the angels have their eyes closed when they moved? We know that if they are looking at each other, they can't move.
@jennyluteable
@jennyluteable Год назад
And I thought Doctor visited Joan’s granddaughter bc she had literally just released a book entirely about Joan’s experience… which said granddaughter had written, therefore would be an honest & objective source for 10th doctor to find out. Because if he had travelled back in time to see Joan, it would prob stir shit up for Joan and cause further heartbreak, not to mention the possibility that she may have felt inclined to withhold the honest truth from him as to not make him feel more guilty or imply that she wasn’t thriving without him, so to speak. While I didn’t really like that the granddaughter looked exactly like her, I wasn’t put off by the fact that the doctor visited HER to try to find out about Joan. I dunno, that’s just me. (And the writer/director, etc lol)
@temporary6230
@temporary6230 Год назад
Ive always seen Mel's as the silence instructing River to insert herself retroactively into Amy and Rory's life's, and that's why there's no mention of her, yes there's flashbacks of them all but I just thought we were seeing Amy and Rory's life altered by Mel's,
@cardinalhamneggs5253
@cardinalhamneggs5253 10 месяцев назад
01:00 I heard in another video that the Doctor who got shot in _The Impossible Astronaut_ was actually the Teselecta disguised as the Doctor to take his place while preserving the fixed point in time.
@Noxfallen
@Noxfallen Год назад
If 10 visits Joan herself he runs the risk of hurting her again... or even hurting himself. It's hinted that he still has a sliver of love for her in his heart(s) when he asked her to come with him... if he just popped in and she's married with kids that sight could still hurt him. Visiting a descendant cushions the blow for everyone. It also legitimizes the stories Joan would've told her family.
@Hanmacx
@Hanmacx Год назад
I loved the Power Ranger Daleks xD
@Mystic_hazza
@Mystic_hazza Год назад
The thing with the weeping angels that upset me was that it was said they turn to stone when they are seen I was really hoping that there would be this other form if you get what I mean when they aren’t seen?
@elizabethfahrlander6224
@elizabethfahrlander6224 Год назад
I want to edit out every scene in which Martha complains to some random person about how “in love” she is with the Doctor and how he doesn’t notice her. “Show, don’t tell” writers. Both Freema and David are more than good enough actors to convey those undercurrents through acting (and do, all the raw material is in fact there if you just edit out the dialogue). Leave in Jack saying “you too, huh?” to her when they meet, that’s enough text for that subtext. The constant overt statement in every episode makes an otherwise kickass character one-note and pathetic and is a disservice to one of the best seasons of the entire show.
@thegrumpymonkey17
@thegrumpymonkey17 Год назад
Joan would never have wanted to see The Doctor, not even as an old woman. It would have caused her too much pain. Clearly she loved him, but in her mind, he wasn't the same man she fell in love with. That's why she wouldn't go with him. "John Smith is dead, and you look like him." And then she made the very valid point that, had The Doctor not chosen that place on a whim, no one would have died. It is possible to genuinely love and hate someone at the same time, and I think that's the case here.
@brettjohnson536
@brettjohnson536 7 месяцев назад
For the last one, I actually liked that scene. For one, he didn't go back because Joan made it very clear she never wanted to see him again. And the reason for that, and the Doctor's guilt, wasn't because he broke her heart, it was because he was at least partially responsible for bringing the family of blood, which got a lot of people killed. So he probably wouldn't want to go back to that time period because of the guilt ir visit her as an old woman because she probably still wouldn't want to see him
@TheFuddFactory
@TheFuddFactory Год назад
It’s my understanding that the book she was signing was the story of her grandmother also (this is just me trying to make what we got work) he thought her seeing him would corse more pain. I think the real reason was it was a quick scene that would be too expensive to do in period.
@lillynichols9884
@lillynichols9884 Год назад
I concur
@adventurekitty101
@adventurekitty101 2 месяца назад
As someone whose first ever exposure to Doctor Who was Matt Smiths first season as the 11th, the Flesh and Stone scene of the Angels moving actually quite terrifying my 7 year old self. Still kinda is tbh, and I’m speaking as someone who grew up to love horror and is not easily scared.
@julianaylor4351
@julianaylor4351 Год назад
The Grand Serpent could come back though. Remember the Master/Missy always seems to get out of seemingly impossible traps.
@thescarletemperor64
@thescarletemperor64 8 месяцев назад
"These Scarro skittles" is just hilarious to me.
@SirMeowsAlot89
@SirMeowsAlot89 Год назад
Number one: why didn’t the Doctor go back and tear open those wounds again for Joan? Well gosh I think I just answered it right there but maybe I’ll continue. How would her granddaughter know if she in the end had a happy life? Well she did grow up knowing her grandmother who obviously found love again and married and had kids who then had kids. So maybe interacting with her grandmother she can fairly tell if she had a happy life or not.. Oh she also found and published her diary about the time with this mysterious doctor. So she does have some insight to it all, especially if her grandmothers diary was very detailed with her own intimate thoughts, which most diaries are. Edit: I also find it interesting and cool that the granddaughter now knows the story is real. Before the Doctor steps up to talk to her, we hear her say something like: well I don’t know if it’s true I found my grandmothers diary. But now she knows it wasn’t a fantasy or story her grandma came up with, it was true.
@paulrobinson3649
@paulrobinson3649 Год назад
Metaltron? I'd go for Old Friends.
@stevenkarmazenuk2540
@stevenkarmazenuk2540 Год назад
The Reunion
@callumleader2035
@callumleader2035 Год назад
Pain and past
@antney7745
@antney7745 Год назад
Salt and Pepper.
@wamengxiong0409
@wamengxiong0409 Год назад
Lmao, for the first one, its as River says: "Spoilers"
@austinfallen
@austinfallen Год назад
Maybe call the sales episode, “legacy” given that both the dalek and the dr were the legacy of their species, and the encounter is a legacy of the war
@Xanduur
@Xanduur Год назад
I LOVED the colored Daleks.
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