There's no question that I'd rather take George Lucas' sequels over Disney's. They probably wouldn't have been original trilogy-level goodness, but holy cow would they have had a specific direction and a much better Luke.
In fairness, he's been getting shit on since 1999. All he wanted to do was tell more of the story that people claimed to want since 1983, and they killed him for it. Damned if he did, and damned if he didn't. I don't blame him for selling it, I probably would have done so as well. Let's face it, there'd be the same backlash against his sequel trilogy as Disney's, but for too much green screen, or some other crap. He made the right choice for his sanity in selling
The whole Disney/Lucasfilm fan fiction division series, the sequel trilogy, should have been left on the cutting room floor. Better still, set on fire in a rubbish bin then extinguished with a stream of piss.
Lucas is a great "Ideas Guy" - but he needs a team to keep him reigned in and focused and to makes sure his "vision" actually works. He sucks as a writer, and when he is surrounded by "YES"-Men, you get shit like JarJar.
@@colemanmoore9871 funny how he had no cowriter for Episode 3 & Episode 4, but had one for Episode 2 (everyone forgets Jonathan Hales, who's name is right there in the credits). Episode 4 is my favorite, Episode 3 is better than Episode 6 (Sith has no Ewoks or infamous musical numbers) & darker than Episode 5 (don't people like Empire because it's dark). He had no cowriter for Episode 1, which many still consider better than Episode 2. Many fans seem to prefer Menace, Clones, Hope, Sith, Empire & Jedi over Last Jedi & Rise of Skywalker
Think of the shit he put up with from 1983 to 2005. People begging for more star wars, then people cutting the prequels to hell once they got them. The only way a sequel trilogy was getting made was by someone else. Lucas wouldn't have even tried it
I'm gonna say, his sequels might have been shite if he was left to his own devices. Part of what made the OG trilogy work was the vision of the directors. He has great ideas, but definitely needs help with proper execution.
@@megatronjenkins2473 Nah, the prequels spawned a lot of awesome lore, TV shows, video games, comics and books. Think what you will of them as movies, the fact that they exist is a good thing. Besides, I like the prequels.
I believe that the original Star Wars movies (the Classic trilogy and the prequel trilogy) as well as Rogue One are a fine series, but I can't stand any of the sequel trilogy at all.
It would make much more sense to see Luke building the jedi order instead of seeing the main villain coming back from the dead, then Rey killing him and being the only jedi alive. This already happened in ROTJ by Luke and also Anakin, the main star wars character, was more connected to it
I think the anakin force ghost could have been pretty cool to see, but would have people on both sides of the spectrum. It would obviously take away fromt the ending of the original trilogy where anakin redeemed himself, but it would also open a lot of possibilities. What if snoke was instead manipulating ben with his grandfather’s force ghost. It would have given them both more character and luke could have been waaaay better and not just try to kill ben over a “dream”.
There’s a few things that I enjoyed, the throne room scene for example was great idea, but bad choreography and the fact that it should’ve been at the end of movie 3 really brought it down
Honestly i kind of liked the idea of Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor being able to escape, in particularly i think it would be awesome if it seems they might be the only ones to survive but instead are among the rebels that are slaughtered by Vader in his hallway scene, still Jyn is the last one to die and the one who is able to give the Death Star plan to Leia's ship, in my opinion it would be both tragic and great. Also i would have loved a sequel trilogy with Maul as the main villain but perhaps being a bit more loyal to the EU like making that the events of Thrawn's trilogy has happened in this timeline as well, i was even thinking that Thrawn's trilogy would be perfect as Episodes 7, 8 and 9 while Maul's trilogy could be Episodes 10, 11 and 12.
they should have escaped, then replaced Luke & Leia in Splinter of the minds eye where either Cassian or Jyn could die in the battle with Darth Vader . Maybe even a 3rd on the survivor out for revenge but ultimately losing making a heroic sacrifice for the rebellion = A gritty shadow trilogy to the Skywalker one
I think Disney would have been wise to use George's sequel vision as a foundation for their trilogy. Say what you want about George, but he at least thought in terms of having a plan and a goal in terms of story making. Disney's trilogy look great but they are so underwhelming because of their lack of direction.
That was mostly good. But hold on. Alan Dean Foster wrote the "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" based on a two-book deal he signed in 1976 -- the first was the novelization of "Star Wars". Alan Dean Foster was the ghost writer of this. Although Lucas made suggestions regarding the ideas, such as the low-budget and no Han Solo as you mentioned, Alan Dean Foster wrote the novel and story. For the record it's an interesting read.
They should make more "a star wars story" movies... Maul (either before being an apprentice or right after getting chopped in half then dying on tatooine), grevious (how he became what he was) qui gon (before obi wan training)... Boba fett(but we have the show) Vader (hunting down some remaining jedi and ending right before Rouge one) obi wan (has to end killing maul on tatooine),
The music was originally supposed to be just keyboard synthesizer music, instead of John William's full symphony orchestra music. That would have been a terrible idea as well.
A) Anakin didn't build Threepio. He put him back together out of spare parts. Threepio is still from the factory like every other protocol droid. B) There's nothing stupid about Yoda being friends with Chewie.
I would've liked a sequel trilogy that at the least took me somewhere new. If it was me I would've liked an ending where both the darkside and the lightside became completely eliminated - bringing balance to the force.
According to Lucas directly balance was NOT any form of compromise between light and dark it was total elimination of the dark. People always make the mistake of equating light/dark to good/evil they aren't. The "light" side is total surrender to the natural will of the force. The "dark" side was an outside corruption of the Forces actions, Lucas directly compared it specifically to cancer. You wanna go tell an 8 year old with Leukemia that it's ok cause his body is balanced now and that's how it's supposed to be. SMH @ people always trying to apply a literal definition to words in a fantasy story. If the light side was "good" Qui Gonn woulda freed the slaves and Yoda wouldn't have told Luke to straight up let his friends die.
@@panicbutton426 That maybe George's view but not mine. The word balance means one side is equal to the other - I don't think you can call eliminating one side balance.
@@ashdoginc Balance means "in harmony". People using their power to make the Force do things it would not do on it's own isn't balance it's corruption of the system in question. Furthermore George doesn't have an opinion, he created it as a work of fiction, his "opinion" is definition. You're still hung up on a literal translation.
@@panicbutton426 The reason I say you have to eliminate both sides is that Jedi can turn to the darkside - the sith will always eventually return. Eliminate both sides would create better harmony.
@@ashdoginc that's not harmony that's quiet. "Harmony" in this case is defined as the natural order. Jedi are not supposed to be"good" that was the mistake of the Jedi Order. The "light" side is surrender to the will of the Force. Just allowing yourself to be an instrument of it's movement. The "dark" side is the attempt to ignore the will of the Force and control the outcomes around you. All you have to do is compare the Jedi and Sith codes. The Jedi order had to go down because it became part of the institution of control, but Jedi as individuals can and should separate themselves from things like politics which they only became officially involved in as a reaction of fear following Hoths war. You can't "eliminate" the light side because that is the normal state of the Force. People get hung up because they call it light and we associate that with good so they tend to look at it in those terms. "Falling" & "redemption" are for the most part (chosen one prophecies aside) choices people make. That is inherently NOT light side which is a surrender of personal choice to the will of the Force.
As a kid, my brother had a paperback copy of “Splinter of The Mind’s Eye”, which I always looked at on the bookshelf. This was back when it came out, so I was too young to actually read it. After a couple of years, about 1982-3, when I was old enough to read it, I was deeply obsessed with The Hobbit and Lord Of The Rings and no longer was interested. I wish he still had it, as I’m sure that some time between then and now, I could have found an evening in which to read it!
The suggestion that the sequel trilogy was better than it would have been if George was involved is ludicrous and shows us that the makers of this channel aren’t Star Wars fans at all and don’t deserve a sequel trilogy by Lucas. Star Wars is a universe that was created by and exists in the mind of George (and now Dave Filoni) It’s not a cringey New Hope rip off accompanied by two movies of visionless, politically motivated, contradictory, cash grabbing nonsense. We want our cringe to come directly from the big man himself. If they only took the direction George had given them and used Filoni to execute it we would’ve been blessed with a trilogy that everyone could’ve been happy with. At least Dave Filoni and John Favreau are currently saving Star Wars for the fans and undoing the damage done by the power tripping Kathleen Kennedy and money hungry Disney. Let’s hope Star Wars never sinks that low again
politically motivated?? there were literally 0 politics in the sequels lmao what are u talking about?? like thats one of the biggest criticisms u can have about them name 1 (one) event directly relating to politics in the sequels
Re: Jyn and Andor, had they gone the route where an Alliance ship came down to pick them up, it would have been amazing if they saw the ship and were starting to do the happy thing like, "we made it," only for the Death Star beam to cut through the rescue ship mid-air as the blast reaches the surface. Give them that last little bit of hope, only to have it snatched away in the their last moments.
4:39 Lynch’s dune ended up being a disaster because most people didn’t like how a lot of the characters look (the harkonen and fugly) and the final product had an hour and a half more footage than what was released
Like retconning the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy? I'm not saying they are great, but they don't need to be deleted either. I mean if I can fix them with a 25 minute long movie without retcon, time travel, alternate universe, "this was all dream", you name it, I'm sure someone at Disney can as well.
They also can delete scenes or add new ones (different cut of the movie), maybe new dialog like Lucas did to the originals without dismissing what they had... your "this was all a dream" was my thought when it comes to retconning some stuff of the new trilogy, but instead of a dream I would use the word vision/prediction to ti-in lore from all the Star Wars universe.
@@kingvagar My "this was all a dream"? I listed the things I didn't do. My movie is logically sound without any of the cheap plot excapes. Oh, no deus machina either. I even made a video where I explain how my movie fixes all of Mauler's complaints.
It does need to be retconned. Luke and Han both sot shit on. We need to go back to the version where they were always heroes. Daisy can always play Jaina.
Are we gonna burn filoni out asking him to constantly fix others mistakes, poor fella has already spent 10+ years fixing star wars mistakes, and now we’re asking him to fix another 10 years too, George burnt out surely (Dave had to save some of his work too) Dave has to at some point too right? Unless that hat protects him from Star Wars brain damage 😂
episode 7,8, 9 needed more force ghosts. But I would have shown Anakin in his full light side version appearing to tell his grand son that the helmet isn't talking to him and that THIS isn't what he wants for his family. and I wanted to see all the ghosts appear at the end of Rise fighting the Emperor. Or maybe have the Emperor be a ghost. Boba Fett being a Skywalker could have been fun but like if the revel was in the earlier episodes. young Han could have worked but not alongside Chewbacca yet. When I watch people react to star wars they do tend to think up many weird ideas that never happened. and there are even more Star Wars ideas that almost happened that were not in this video. I would love to see an animated series maybe explore all those unused ideas and how the films would have been different had they been used.
Qui Gon was the first to discover a way to preserve his identity after death, instead of dissolving into the Force. There could be no “Force ghosts” before him. Which is good, because the Jedi should accept death. It’s the Sith who cling to life. I’d like to think that Yoda, Obi Wan and all only stuck around long enough to see balance restored to the Force, then disappeared. It also solves the problem of immortal, powerful undead Jedi just showing up and doing whatever they want.
@@mborok but then Yoda shows up to make lightning Stike that building, Luke catches his old lightsaber , even the books had force ghost moments. I think Force Ghosts were in some of the video games as well. I think Force Ghosts vs the Emperor works better then Rey saying she's All of the Jedi. Its even applied that when the Emperor resurrected he was surrounded by all of the Sith ghosts.
@@sasamichan Yeah, I didn’t like any of that. There’s nothing emotional about Luke’s death when he just comes back and does the same stuff he would have done if he had lived.
I imagine Force ghosts can only appear to Jedi (or other light side Force users... Ahsoka probably becomes one eventually), but when Ben came back to being Ben, a reunion on-screen with Anakin and with Leia would have been really cool
The whole Disney/Lucasfilm fan fiction division series, the sequel trilogy, should have been left on the cutting room floor. Better still, set on fire in a rubbish bin then extinguished with a stream of piss.
@@m3tamorphosissystem250 he's not a hater he's a realist , they are terribly written look cool though and I like the cast shame the story made no sense
@@m3tamorphosissystem250 I agree with you and What culture Star Wars. Mostly because based on what we have heard of it, it feels like it wouldn't fit within the Skywalker saga. Having any villain we recognized (Darth maul in this case) besides palpatine being the main bad guy would have been really weird for the Skywalker saga. Luke still being the main character also doesn't really go with the flow of the saga. And a huge focus on restoring the republic would have been way to political. Basically these all sound like good ideas for if revenge of the sith was the last Skywalker saga movie. Not as the Last trilogy of the Skywalker saga. Let me know if I make sense or not.
Star Wars IS a musical. It’s a space opera, without much singing (a bit of singing in the original trilogy background music, such as the Emperor’s theme and the final ROTJ celebration music, plus actual singing in Jabba’s palace). Star Wars is a musical in the fact that classical-style music and sound effects are a major part of the Star Wars film experience.
George Lucas' sequel trilogy cannot possibly have beena worse idea, than whatever the abomination that Disney managed to vomit up for us turned out to be...
I'm glad Anakin didn't have to spend another three movies struggling with the dark side, but the sequels would have been so much better with him having more than just the two lines and no appearance he actually had.
My late brother used to speak of sequels, even before the prequels, his talking only growing with said prequels, further intensifying with the announcement of an actual sequel trilogy! If only we'd got what he knew was supposed to come... at least he never saw Last Jedi, though, so there's that! Whether or not he ever saw Force Awakens, I have no idea and I certainly hope not! Although, I never did learn of his source... He was also actually born in 1977 as well; died last year... (not of Beer Bug, though...)
@@teemusid Prequel movies are indeed bad, specially its storytelling (not even nostalgia goggles can chance that), but it offered a great world-building setting that granted us Filoni's projects such as The Clone Wars animated series.
Sooooo.... If George Lucas had been given the sequel-trilogy to make in his vision,we could have gotten Mara Jade,Grand Master Luke and by extension maybe Darth Krayt and other high-power Legends stuff? Sigh.... What could've been. Such epic,wow.
This shows where new directors go wrong. First idea for them seems to have to stick and can’t be changed or revamped while decent producers and writers make you wait for something with well fleshed out world building
No that would've been horrible and cheesy. Props to whoever talked Lucas out of that dumb idea. And the having a pre-teen Han being raised by Chewie on Kashyyk in the prequels.
In the original story uncle Owen was related to obi wan Kenobi. It was changed in episode 2 to make uncle Owen related to Anakin Skywalker. Also Yoda was blue. So basically he would have been a bigger Smurf.
I always had an issue with one trench run aspect. At one point, Han destroys one of the TIE fighters accompanying Vader. The shot then shows Han coming out of light speed. That would mean that Han fired the shot. . .DURING light speed? How did Han pilot the Falcon and calculate a laser shot at the same time? Even if he fired the shot *after* coming out of light speed, the Falcon wasn't close enough to the Death Star to even see where everyone in the battle was located. So, basically, DURING light speed, Han shoots a TIE fighter that he somehow knows is with Vader in the trench area. Okay. . .
It's an awful shame that the Disney trilogy had no plan. Would've been an awesome twist if Rey turned to the dark side while Kylo made a return to the light. By the end of the trilogy.
I don’t know how many people will agree with me but the Rey movies screwed the pooch so hard he’s walking funny. The clean break, would have been awesome if we got a clean break. I liked Daisy Ridley as Rey, I hated that it felt like the empire 2.0, a sub par Vader. Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker crapped on the previous trilogy. I hated Rey was doing things Luke took years to learn in the first movie just to start. Last Jedi didn’t make purple haired chick cool by tearing Poe down it made him weak. Same with Rey and Luke, Rose and Finn. It worked with Leia and Han because both actors played off each other. Leia was leader in the first trilogy. Luke was the lone warrior who had his own story. Also the “be the chosen one” was an insult to Lucas and the Franchise. Rey failing, earning her abilities and justifying the ones she started with (better since her knowing how to protect herself didn’t seem out of place) and a new dark side threat without a reskin of the empire and the trilogy could have been awesome. With Rey as the lead as a cross between Luke and Han with little change on Daisy’s part.
And in Splinter of the Minds eye Luke cuts off VADERS right hand. E,S,B Vader returns the favor to Luke ROTJ,Luke cuts off VADERS hand yet again Fun Fact
That was after the TIE squadrons engaged the rebels, by then the "turbo lasers", which were the anti-spacecraft cannons, had ceased defensive firing so as not to hit any of their own. As stated before the battle, the smaller fighters were able to evade them, so presumably, had large ships attacked they would have been destroyed before getting close to the exhaust port. A better question is how come the Millennium Falcon doesn't get caught in a tractor beam like the last time it got too close to the Death Star.
@@adumbanimator8212 Well if the Millennium Falcon can fly above the trench and shoot at Ties & Darth Vader's tie. Why doesn't a ship to do the same fly above shoot into the exhaust port without going along a trench.
@@blazeorangeandcamo Good points that help me understand why it was the way was. And yeah interesting the Millennium Falcon wasn't caught in a tractor beam.
@@DanBen07 I'm sure the tractor beam has been explained somewhere by now, but I don't keep up with Star Wars the same as I did years ago. I imagine one could say that since he knew he was doing a sneak attack, Han simply jumped through hyperspace right near the surface of the Death Star, not allowing time to catch the ship. The problem with that however is that it leads us back to your question, because then all the rebel fleet should have been able to do the same thing as soon as the TIE squadron appeared lol
I think it's silly to say that the Starkiller family was a bad idea. It still sounds like a very interesting story, and heavily inspired the story of Rebels. I think that proves it can work.
Some of these are bad, really bad. But some of them don't sound too awful, mainly the one about Lucas' sequels. They couldn't been any worse than what we got. Have someone else direct them but allow Lucas to contribute some ideas, if not the main outline (something that was seriously lacking with Disney's sequels).
5:58 - "he's an odd, wizened figure" - definition, shrivelled or wrinkled with age. You're supposed to pronounce the "Z" like the WIZ in wizard, not like WISE-end.
I know people comment on this all the time in other Star Wars videos and by now it's kinda endearing, but Marcia's name is pronounced like the first syllable of "marshmallow" or marsh-a, lol. Still love the videos! ;)
8:28, no he did not have ideas for 3 trilogies back in the 1970s. in fact every single interview from ever single person working on starwars at the time indicates he wanted to make a single movie. just one, with 0 plans for anything else.
You missed the biggest change made to the trench run scene. Originally the Death Star wasn't attacking the rebel base. In the original version the Death Star was in open space when the rebels attacked. It was changed because the scene lacked tension without the stakes of impending doom.
