@@game_invader179 I think you and the comment above were reversed, it would be broken knee caps, followed by a trip to a nearby lake wearing cement shoes:))!! Lol 😆 😝 😂 🤣 😜 🤪
Wow...who would have guessed that Heidenreich getting "up close and personal" with Michael Cole was actually EXTREMELY TAME compared to what we could have gotten?
Michael Cole limps down to the commentary desk. Sits on donut pillow. Ladies and gentlemen we flash back to last week to show you full blown bathroom sodomy. Cole how you feeling?
@Bo Hill I mean Mark Henry’s whole sexual chocolate thing, the silverback gorilla, and his love affair with an elderly Mae Young which led to Mae giving birth on live tv to a hand, and a decade later the hand is all grown up and shows up on raw, yeah WWE storylines should never be taken seriously, EVER:))!! But with the Stephanie baby storyline I would think Vince was from Alabama or someplace down south, because that is absolutely GROSS 🤢 🤮 😷:))!!
"So when I was eating fish n chips, while drinking tea, while watching the wwf on the Tele" has got to be the greatest British sentence ever lol. Great video as usual!!
"vince said it was the stupidest idea he'd ever heard of" a sentence that means nothing when you consider this is the same guy who wanted to run storylines where first he, then her brother, was aurora's father
When you think about it, for a guy who pitched the idea that he slept with her own daughter and was the father of her baby, if Vince of all people is telling you that your idea is stupid, you know there's something wrong with you.
The Lock could have worked as a one time thing. Christian would definitely be able to pull it off in a situation like he was put in a tag team with the Rock for one night
I also remember hearing something about Vince actually had an idea of selling HHH and Stephs marriage on Pay-Per-View... The man is both an idiot and a genius at the same time...That man could give Psychologists a whole careers worth of work
"A Jim Morrison-type character for Edge would've been 30 years behind the times" -- I don't suppose you watched much WWE *10 years later, when they actually went through with this idea, and still use the gimmick to this day??* 😂
Honestly the only thing that bothers me about John Morrison’s gimmick is the entrance music. A fine song, sure, but it’s played by a group called the Stonefree Experience, and it’s meant to copy the style of Jimi Hendrix. Not The Doors, not Jim Morrison, but Jimi Hendrix. Why did they give an imitation Hendrix song to a Jim Morrison send up?
I’m starting to think that instead of thought provoking and quality stories, WWE creative is like people on dark corners of the internet who post edgy stuff just to get a reaction
Scott Hall could have done that G.I. Joe gimmick pretty well. He could even keep the slick hair and toothpick, play it as more like a Full Metal Jacket kind of G.I., and it probably would have killed.
Apparently Shane was unaware of the Stephanie storyline idea until someone asked him about it a couple years ago Shane apparently said he would’ve been fine with it
"attempting to launch an american football league - twice - " xfl 2.0 wasnt a particularly bad run, but for covid. im not sure why people keep lumping it in with its forebear. if someone would launch a roller derby league that wasnt all about gimmicks and storylines, i'd watch that shit every week
Vince obviously never learned from his dad that pissing off organized crime isn't a good idea . Vince Sr had Lou Albano and Tony Altimore as The Sicilians complete with Mafia costumes and being pursued by a tag team known as The G Men until he had a visit from the actual Mafia and was forced to tone the gimmick down . In British wrestling there was a wrestler called Alan Kilby who was actually deaf and this was incorporated into his gimmick .
This list is baffling... I mean I'm glad none of it happened (except maybe The Lock as a one off gag, I could see that maybe being fun once. But when has WWE ever known how to show restraint when something is fun one time?) - but holy crap.
Hirohito wasnt a general per se, he was THE EMPEROR OF JAPAN. Also a frikkin war criminal. And more importantly, it was his actual name, not his title "Shôwa"
For those that don’t know plan B was to have Shane be the father of Stephanie’s baby, but that didn’t happen either. But about 4 years ago Shane was asked about this potential story on a Radio interview and said he wouldn’t of mind doing the story because he said he finds his Sister not, Lol. And tbh if I had a sister that looked like Stephanie I wouldn’t of mind either 😂
Emporer, plus he isn't revered in Japan. Japanese people KNOW, that he was the reason there were bombs dropped on them during the war. They keep quiet about that part of history, and don't want to even think about it. I don't think Pachetti knows that though, I won't be too hard on him.
@@PrizeJ Unfortunately, there are still many old generation Japanese people that still believe that Japan never committed atrocities during and prior to World War 2, and that the U.S. dropping of the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was completely an up front attack by the United States.
@@StageRight123 Well yeah, but those old ones were propagandized. I bet if there was a poll taken to see where the thoughts of older people that believe that lays, I think the numbers wouldn't be as high. I'm half Japanese and half Filipino, and I have been to Japan alot of times. I haven't heard too many of older generation that believe in the anti USA propaganda of they were attacked for no reason(though I know there are some that do exist), I have met older folks that didn't want to talk about it at all.
@@PrizeJ the only thing that is positive about him he is the longest reigning monarch ever but i don't see why he was allowed to reign so long and wasn't overthrown by his people
A few minor ones: Bret Hart was going to get a cowboy gimmick at first. Many years later, another pitched idea was Owen going to have an affair with Debra.
Baron Von Bava? I lost 40 family members at Auschwitz. So, I am aghast and my brain is broken. I just can't. So tone deaf that Vince himself walked out says it all.
It's a little disturbing that it seems for a good 5-10 years someones fallback idea in the creative team was 'why not incest?' Ken/Ryan Shamrock, Beaver Cleavage, Vince/Steph, Paul/Katie-Lea Burchill...
Without watching the video first. Number one has to be Vince's pitch to turn Stephanie's REAL pregnancy into a storyline with Vince being the father....
#9 there is video of someone working backstage at the time saying the king of Japan did not like the idea after hearing about the promo... this then lead to them saying "we in the back were like we didn't even know Japan has a king... Vince was like They do and we pissed him off"
You know what would be hilarious? Imagine you're someone who wants out of WWE, but they won't release you. Stash a megaphone under the ring. Then when it's time to come out and talk, grab the mic, and start yelling FUCK FUCK FUCK. Knowing they'll turn it off, reach under the ring, grab the megaphone and continue. I'll bet they'd release you then. Plus it would definitely be remembered.
As someone else mentioned, Hirohito was the emperor of Japan, not just a general. And the idea wasn't shot down by anyone in the company. They actually aired a vignette for the character, and then a representative from the Japanese government called them and said that if they went through with it they would be banned in Japan.
While red headed comedian Matt McCarthy was a writer at WWE he jokingly pitched a storyline to the writers room where he would portray Sheamus' deadbeat brother Lameus who was there to mooch off his brother and constantly got in arguments backstage that would lead to Sheamus wrestling matches he didn't want to, the writers all laughed it off before Brian Gerwitz pleaded with McCarthy to never explain it to Vince because Vince might have done it
That one it with Melina is my all-time favorite Bautista moment! He never said he would call off the match, so never technically lied. He did imply he would call off the match, but Melina is the one who made that assumption and agreed to bang big Dave. After the deed had been done ( which apparently only took the length of a commercial break, because they were finished when they came back from the break) you still went out and kick their asses anyway! FUCKING LEGEND!!
Wow, I completely forgot about the XFL reattempt. Also Hirohito (Showa) wasn’t the one in charge of the troops, he was the Emperor. Longest reigning one in the country’s history (1926 - 1989). It would come across as terribly disrespectful. December 23 is a national holiday for his birthday. I looked forward to it when living in Japan. ^^’
2:09 Hirohito was Emperor of Japan, grandfather of current Emperor Naruhito. He was not the "general" - You are thinking of Tojo who was shot by the allies after WW2. There was indeed a wrestler called Tojo - Tojo Yammamoto - for many decades in the US in the territories era.
They failed to mention Vince's idea to have an evil architect wrestler named "Bill Ding". It's true. And Disco Inferno reportedly had an idea in WCW to have shape shifting Martians kidnap & take the place of Chris Jericho, Madusa, Mike Tenay & others.
How about when they were going to name Steve Austin " Chilly McFreeze" instead of "Stone Cold"? "Chilly McFreeze" sounds like a dessert you'd order at McDonald's, or one of Ronald McDonald's friends. Or how about when they wanted Sgt. Slaughter to burn the American flag during his Iraqi sympathizer run?
@@MazeDaGr8 Somebody should've used one or two of those in a promo thinking they were clever and mocking Austin, only for him to shut it down both on the mic and by kicking their ass. Then again, in those days they did just fine even without such self-referential humor...
Wasn't there another popular scrapped idea in the late 2000's where John Cena was rumoured to be returning as a masked luchador "Juan Cena"?? 😂😂😂 I'm sure I even remember WWE themselves mentioning it at some point lol
Minus the Paul Heyman pairing, the Baron von Bava idea sounds exactly like something Vince would have considered in the 80's & early 90's. I mean, Iron Shiek, Nikolai Volkoff, a turncoat Sgt Slaughter, it's right in his wheelhouse. AWA also had Colonel DeBeers, so this idea might have been pushed through if it had come along a little earlier and didn't suggest pairing a Jewish manager with a recently-thawed from-cryogenic-state Nazi soldier 🙄
The number 1 sounded a lot like Captain America theme from Marvel Comics. Marvel Comics would of sued over copyright infringement. See...Captain America was frozen after WW2 in order to be revived in the modern time. So...WWE was lucky they never did this gig because Marvel Comics would of owned WWE.
That #1 entry left me speechless it's bad enough heindenreich was going to portray a unfrozen nazi soldier but pairing him with a Jewish manager whose mom experienced the holocaust first hand
There should be a character named "Mark Skids", his finish maneuver would be "the Mark of Death" where he pulls out a pair of underwear with poop on them, and covers his opponents face, and they gag, and choke from the smell, and then pass out.
I just knew it had to the Baron Von Bava gimmick at number 1 - I remember seeing CM Punk at a show in Coventry in '05 recounting the tale of this shistorm of a creative idea to a stunned and silent hall; Captain America it wasn't
4:30 Goldust wore a body suit anyway, if he was dead set on the idea why didn’t he just pitch stuffing the chest of the body suit to make it LOOK like he had implants?
"Heidenreich was originally going to be a nazi" Me: ...Fuck no. For the love of God, no. How could it be worse? "Paul Heyman, (who is Jewish) who's mother was a holocaust survivor, was going to be his manager." Me: *drops jaw* ...
Kinda buried the lede on The Lock character by only paying lip service to the fact that Vince thought it was an insanely stupid idea. If Vince thinks your idea is way too stupid to even consider then you know it was fucking bad
Austin beating up micheal cole after what cole said in an unclassy mannor was brilliant their were a few bad ones played like vince and trish stratus was a bit odd
Considering John Morrison would do a Jim Morrison gimmick several years later and make it a success, not sure why it would be “behind the times” in the late 90’s. Also, there was talk that Baron Von Bava was, at one point, supposed to debut alongside Hirohito and do an entire WW2 Axis powers stable.
