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Despite it being unlikely, Dr. Doom (in a rare exception) does have a built-in reason for not showing his face. I think it would be better if they did a 'Darth Vader', with someone else dawning the face while RDJ would convey the emotions.
It’s weird because I can see the similarities between Tony and Victor. I see how they could make this work. Especially if he shows in the fantastic four universe before the MCU. It probably would’ve been crazier had they decided to keep his casting a secret until one of the avengers movies.
Maybe it's just me, but when we see the Makers face in more recent stuff, he even looks a little like Miles Teller. That, combined with how much Fan4stic took from the Ultimate FF, it's genuinely such an obvious choice. It would be cool if the MCU manages to redeem one of the worst Marvel movies this way.
Yeah NGL I think Miles Teller would have been a perfect Ultimate Universe - esque Reed Richards if it wasn’t for the terrible movie he was in. The horrible script, production, and the last minute reshoots all ruined it.
I would absolutely lose it if Teller returned to play The Maker, however I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t want to return for the role considering how bad of an experience he had on Fantastic 4
One thing I wanna see is Peter being the first person to help them when they get transported to 616 after Galactus. They get transported into Times Square, authorities rush to the scene and Spidey is the first hero to respond. A great way to start his bond with the team.
I’m just worried that, if they’re a time displaced team, what’s going to happen with Doom? His history with reed extends all the way back to their college years
@@tinysneakybagel782 It's possible that Doom will be transported as well. Additionally it is very possible that Secret Wars will do some form of reboot to the MCU, creating a new universe in which everyone exists on one earth.
i don’t want them to be traditional “superheroes”. The F4 have never been “heroes”. they’ll help out when they can, but first and foremost, they’re scientists and explorers. that’s their main focus
Pretty sure they're going to be equal parts scientists, heroes, and celebrities, at least in this first movie to show how much STATUS they have in their universe before they move to Earth 199999
@@theamazingspooderman2697 dude, the Hulk is a total horror character, way more than he is a hero. He started out as a Frankenstein Jekyll and Hyde amalgam and runs like Immortal Hulk have leaned into his horrific nature.
I meeeeean yea they’re mainly explorers/scientists, but they have a whole ass rogues gallery. They’re not towing the line or “kinda/sorta heroes”, they ARE full blown superheroes
The joke at 10:35 isn't a joke about The Beatles, there was a band called "The Fantastic Four" in the 60's which did chart. That's likely what he's referring to.
Last time I talked about it everybody told me that it was a “Fab Four” reference for the Beatles but honestly it’s so weirdly vague and unclear I don’t think even they knew what the joke was
11:18, thank you for that. I've been auguring with people that it's 1999999 and not 616. "But it says 616 in the movies!". Sure, but it was originally 1999999 and 616 is the actual main comic universe.
I want them to keep Doom mysterious. We barely get a look at his face. During flashbacks we only see enough to show his scar, only see his face when it's wrapped in bandages. As he travels the Tibetan mountains, Doom's face is covered in a hood, cloaked in shadow. Then he has his mask on and we NEVER see his face. Have him take off his mask like twice but never show him, only characters' reactions. To go with this I'd have him played by a voice actor. I personally want Ross Marquand- he voiced him in that X-Men '97 cameo and he's like, the only VA I've heard play Doom with the accent he should have. Idk if he could carry the role for a full movie but I wanna see him try it Also, they should play Vaudeville Villain.
Even better if they give Doom a full Darth Vader treatment! Someone who is used to act with their body language, paired with a different actor with a powerful voice to match!
I know it might feel slightly off or too modern, but I want an MCU Fantastic Four soundtrack using MF DOOM’s songs. I’d even be happy with just one song used for an iconic Doctor Doom scene
@@holycowthatsoutofthisworld3831 nah it would be a perfect honor. DOOM has been posthumously done dirty, from the grammys not spelling his name right to Biden putting his song on his inauguration playlist despite the injustice done to him while Biden was VP. I think the inclusion in a Marvel movie would be a perfect tribute to him
I gonna say it: I love the casting of this family! The Fantastic Four is a group that is very different from other Marvel teams, not because they are an actual family but because they have numerous different characteristics. I do hope this version of the team will be more positive and uplifting than the FOX version but also enjoyable like the 2000s version. The 60s setting is so good and I love that it’s a period piece.
The trailer leaked online and damn does it look EFFING PHENOMENAL! Love how it's a period piece and the 1960’s vibe is really fun and vibrant. It also looks like they will focus on the space adventure and family side of the team which wasn't explored properly until now!
I personally view the main MCU universe as 199999 and 616 at the same time, in the comics the universe numbering systems was created by the Captain Britain Corps. and in the MCU, it's seemingly created by the Kangs, so it would have 2 different numbers between the 2 systems.
How is that too difficult for people to understand? Two years later and people (mainly comic fans with limited imaginations) STILL don't get how it's perfectly logical for each universe, multiversal group, or even a single person to have their own system of cataloguing the universes. If there are multiple groups or people who aren't buddies who know about the multiverse each one will have their own system of numbering.
For every like I’ll watch fan4stic because I hate my self. ( Edit (I didn’t know the internet hated me this much) Watched the movie 39 times (Deadpool and Wolverine is good and I’ll die on this hill)
I just started reading Hickman’s run on Fantastic Four, and I would just like at least 20% of the sauce that those books have to be present in the movies
The family angle is exactly why I didn't like the 2015 film, it was one of the first superhero movies I actually disliked and it was for that reason, they were "Marvel's First Family" and in the film they spent most of the runtime barely able to tolerate being in the same universe as eachother. This is something they need to get right.
I need more "goofy" villains (like Mole Man, The Wizard, Mad Thinker, etc.), even if they're just for a short scene or action sequence. Since the beginning, the MCU has really dropped the ball with utilizing the massive backlog of Marvel supervillains and I think they should try to correct that. They don't need to be massive or world ending, but something that makes the world feel more alive.
I do like the guy and think he’s an excellent actor - but I think people are just a little burnt out on him. He’s everywhere in every major franchise. It does get exhausting seeing someone appear everywhere
I got the Grant Morrison book as soon as you mentioned it. Love everything they do with comics and want to see what they have to say about heroes and villains.
Besides Doctor Doom and Galactus, I really hope the film introduce other F4 villains, like Mole Man, Mad Thinker, Molecule Man, Dragon man, Puppet Master and others. With the rumors that the film will take place in a alternative reality, they could have the F4 already having a established rogues gallery, who, in the end, could help them in the battle against Galactus, representing the F4 themes about family and working together.
1. Because this movie is going to be in a different universe I hope this movie feels different. Like, more serious, less jokey, etc. 2. I hope Reed is actually smart. Like, we don’t need a repeat of MoM. Reed is one of if not the smartest Marvel characters. Make him feel smart. 3. I hope we see some unique stretching scenes with Reed. 4. Sue needs to be awesome but can’t be like marvels recent female characters. She needs to be a Badass but not arrogant.
@@oscarkamala I’m just comparing her to characters like Captain Marvel. She needs to be more Natasha Romanoff than Carol Danvers. Also just saying that based on the discourse lately. we all know those groups of people who get mad when they see you female characters in marvel. I am not one of them. I’m just saying for the sake of the office you need to think about them.
MoM Reed wasn't bad though, people just like to insult him for one thing even though similar things like that have happened in comics and even made sense with respect to the movie and universe it was set in
Y'know, I really like how they made F4 set in an completely different universe because it allows them to do whatever they want, as long as it feels like F4.
All I want from this movie is to have a good story, good characters, and bring something refreshing to the MCU. I was always hopeful for Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards even before his casting was 100% confirmed. There’s been numerous times we were wrong about castings. Heath Ledger as Joker, Robert Pattinson and Michael Keaton as Batman, Daniel Craig as James Bond. There was also some backlash against Chris Evans as Captain America since he had previously played Johnny Storm in the Tim Story F4 movies. Pascal can totally pull it off as Reed Richards. We have to wait and see the actual performance speak for itself.
I think the biggest thing working against F4 rn is honestly the MCU itself, more specifically the public's perception of it. I think it has the potential to be a truly great movie and help the franchise in the ways you described, but it'll only get there if people actually go to see it. I'm hopeful, but with all the burnout that general audiences have been feeling lately there's always a chance that people just won't see it or won't care about how it may affect the MCU going forward
Whatever they end up doing with Doctor Doom, I just hope he isn't reduced to 'the next big bad' who gets a bunch of build-up then is out of the picture after just one or two big crossover films. He should be the next Loki type character, a villain who is a mainstay that sticks around, sometimes as a main villain, other times as a reluctant ally, but also isn't someone who they can easily defeat. Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes handled him so well and I feel that is the blueprint they should follow, but they could expand it with things like his relationship with Doctor Strange or heck, he could easily lead his own project since he is such a complex character who isn't clear cut evil.
You know their are 2 ways on how and why the FF exist in the 60s, It's either they actually lived in the 60s but then time traveled to the current time which is the 2020s or they lived in the current time but just ended up in the 60s for some reason. But since Galactus is the big bad then it's likely possible that they exist in an alternate universe where New York City is a 60s/Jetsons vibe thing and then ended up traveling to the MCU universe after their world gets destroyed by Galactus.
I really wanna see reed being the emotionless genius he is. As much as reed does love everyone on the team like a family but he often forgets about how they feel and focuses on science and logic for many situations leading to difficulties within not only the team as a whole but each member individually leading to more often then not sue leading the team and being like the emotional support/sense of reason for everyone
Doom is awesome but he needs more build up to be a big Avengers movie villain, like one movie isn’t enough to flesh out Reed’s and Doom’s rivalry and he’s not even the main villain of the next movie
Man I can’t wait for this movie bc Johnny Storm is my favorite F4 member but I still love the team as a whole especially since Doctor Doom is my favorite marvel villain second is Magneto for me but at the same time I’m still hyped for this movie despite a lot of the crazy stuff going on in the background. But I really do hope we get Johnny and Peter as friend/brother like relationship.
The most memorable marvel stuff to come out recently was Guardians 3, no way home, and a select few of the television shows like Moon Knight, Wandavision, and Loki. What does that spell out? Family from the Guardians. Meaningful stakes that last longer than the next movie from Spidey. For the TV stuff, we need actual exploration of ideas(WV), Great Characters and character moments(Moon Knight), and truly epic conclusions (Loki).
I have a wayyy out there theory: what if Giancarlo Espositos character in captain America, JG brigs (a disgruntled ex shield agent who advocates for the economic benefit of experimenting with adamantium from Tiamat for his home country of Latveria), rises to the ranks of ruler because of his discoveries and becomes dr doom- to go crazier you could have a version of kang show up played by G.E. and reveal he was never supposed to be doom, he was supposed to be kang.. then he ditches the green and silver for his white costume and creates battle world.
Given the X-Men's connection to the Civil Rights movement, I think it would be interesting if some version of them exists in that same alternate 1960s that the Fantastic Four are going to take place in. Also, it would cool if they play Surfing with the Alien by Joe Statriani during a scene where Silver Surfer is flying around on earth.
What a brilliant video this is. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this, your passion is infectious and the quality / delivery of this vid is class. Keep it up dude 🔥
The one thing I want them to get right, whether it’s in this film or not is Doctor Doom. He’s my favourite Marvel villain. He looks incredible but his character has so much depth. It’s a commentary on the constant need for success and never feeling fulfilled in life and how lonely that can be. I think what makes Doom so interesting is that his heart is actually pure (that’s how he gets access to the Vibranium in Doom Wars from Wakanda). He honestly feels he is living up to “with great power there must also come great responsibility”. He wants the world to be happy and prosperous and he thinks the only way to do that is if he’s the guy leading the charge. Add the relationship he has with his mother who’s in hell, he jealousy for Reed, his respect for Doctor Strange and how he is the Marvel villain. This guy in both Secret Wars was the best part and in the 2015 version was the main character, saving the multiverse to create Battleworld/Latverion. I think this film from what Feige has hinted is a different universe where the 1960’s have a little more modernism to it and I think this is the right way to go, I think it’s cleaner and more interesting visually for this characters and can allow for the stories to be more isolated to start which gives us more time to spend time with the characters and not have that time wasted on big exposition on why there are in Earth 19999 but never been mentioned
I hope that for this movie we will a 60s vibes even for main theme and the soundtracks of the movie (like GOTG had for the 80s etc to make an example: I would pay with my own money to hear Beach Boys (getting around and surfin Usa would be my shout up and take my money), Beatles, The kinks, The Mamas and The Papas, Chuck Berry and Elvis to make some examples It might be a simple thing but that could be a game changer thing and quite unique for the MCU version of the Fantastic Four
I was hopeful they'd make the Thing using practical effects because the actor playing him is very slim. Like Peter Weller was for RC. That would be cool. The Thing isn't so big that he can't not be CGI. Practical effects with enhanced CGI touches, like Hellboy would work best I think. Would make his character more real if he brought to film this way.
Hey Troy? I know you said you haven't watched the Bear, but please watch the episode "Forks". I firmly believe that episode got him the role of Ben Grimm.
12:38 he is the coolest guy ever. Did you see what he did to the Fantastic 4 and Marvel Universe when he lost his beloved? (I know this is cringe and it’s in Fortnite but it’s really dark and just let me fanboy over stuff holy shit)
6:55 call me crazy but i wouldn’t mind if marvel tried to make a sequel to Fant4stic with a different director and writer, better action scenes, and overall have Miles Teller’s Reed slowly become evil until they either make a Fant4stic 3 or put him in secret wars
I'm gonna be completely honest, I don't care for the reboot of the MCU. It would just kinda feel like they're throwing everything away after a few years of bad luck. I don't want the universe I grew up on to disappear in favour of characters I'm unfamiliar with.
Can you give ideas 💡 on how Marvel can introducing The Squadron Supreme, The Midnighter, The Shroud, Blue Marvel, Miracleman, Quasar, The Runner 🏃♂️, The Blur, Songbird into the MCU!
Bruh if they don’t feature MF DOOM in any capacity when Doctor Doom is introduced imma be furious, considering how much free publicity the character has gotten thanks to the late great Daniel Dumile imo Marvel owe it to him to feature one of his tracks in Victor’s upcoming appearance, my two choices are definitely ‘Doomsday’ or ‘ALL CAPS’ as the background song for when we first see him or when he suits up for the first time
Can anyone recommend some novels that are similar to the Fantastic Four, in the sense that it blends elements and themes of family, action/adventure, exploration, and sci-fi together?
My Reed Richards fancast was always Matt Smith. His role in Doctor Who as my favorite version of that character was great and he's been recently known to play very menacing, and he has a lot of range. When Pedro Pascal's casting was announced though, I was hyped because he's just an awesome actor and I'm really interested to see what he does with the character. Also Natasha Leonne is the star of my favorite movie ever (But I'm a Cheerleader) so I'm very excited to see what character she'll be playing here!
@@troyoboyo17 yeah, I am an 11 fan girl, I've been rewatching and 11 just regenerated and I miss him already, even if his dynamic with Clara doesn't work as well as his dynamic with the Ponds
I used to be a huge fan and went to the movies for every superhero film and watched every show religiously. All I’ve really been interested was in other universes like The Boys and Invincible, but now that both a fantastic four movie and a Superman movie are coming out sparks hope. Especially because this Superman is going to show hope and what Superman means. The Fantastic Four are also an amazing addition to finally have. The Fantastic Four comics and movies made my childhood along with Superman. I’m finally hopeful that hero content from DC and Marvel is back.
If the Silver Surfer in the FF movie is Shallah Bal, I'd love to see Marvel do something similar to what DC did with Thomas Wayne in Flashpoint. Where once the FF arrive in the main universe and meet the Norrin Radd Silver Surfer, they can tell him about Shallah from their universe. If she decides to rebel against Galactus, maybe it's them telling Norrin this that helps inspire him to do the same.
another Thing for me is how the technology is going to look. make it look WEIRD. i wanna see it OBLONG. gimme UNNECESSARY FLASHING LIGHTS AND ROTATING GEARS. like if they just do holograms in a sterile lab i will so very upset, which as we all know is very important.
Trueeee. The MCU’s been really lacking in personality lately (the theme park is a boring slab of concrete lol) and the F4 and X-Men might help to bring some of that life in
I’m personally excited for this movie and hope it’s awesome , also I would really like to see Johnny be one of the main characters that help Peter Parker come out of the shadows. And I really don’t want Reed to end up being a villain
Good points you made. I just want a good film to see with my dad, he loves the Fantastic Four and I just want a good time. I do understand your criticisms with the MCU. I believe they can do it.
I've been reading Dan Slott's run recently, and I'm loving the family stuff in it so far. Sadly, a lot of people say this run is bad, so I'm bracing for it, but i don't see it right now.
Wait. Some people don't care for Quinn as Johnny Storm? I mean, I guess he's not blond, but aside from that he's literally perfect. You can't watch Stranger Things and NOT think, yeah, that guy's got the charisma to play the ol Torch.
