@@lukewood2662 I know wich is what made him the perfect teammate at the time compared to ham he sucked so he wouldn't get in the way and with the merc he could still get most p2's
@@lukewood2662 Last week both Bottas and Checo raced a 1 stop race, and Checo beat him. Also, he immediately moved out of the way of Max, so he could win (something Bottas would not of done). So...
Yeah that should easily go ahead of their No.10 choice. That race was peak Raikkonen. For me, his best drive and I loved watching that race. V10 monsters, no DRS, just pure racing and an amazing last lap overtake for the win.
So Kimi's 2005 Suzuka win from P17 on the grid is ruled out because he was P12 after Lap 1, but Crashgate and a strategic early pit stop from Vettel gets counted? Don't get me wrong, apart from crashgate, all of these were hugely impressive wins, but most required more than a little fortune. Kimi did it on pure pace if i remember correctly, and topping it off with a last lap move around the outside. Flawed criteria imho.
i'll wholeheartingly agree. Inmmost cases is was a timely change to the right tires before anyone else, very early in a race which put the respective driver near to dead last. A better list would have been from the furthest gridpositions by the start of the race, and very very few drivers managed a win positioned 15 or lower in qualifying
In terms of how good a win it was then it’s the worst win in the history of the sport, but on the criteria of the list it’s where it should be, unfortunately
I like Alonso as a driver, but they should've taken out Alonso in Singapore 2008 and put Raikkonen in Suzuka 2005, also, plain strange to not put that race in the list...
What about the great Michael Schumacher's victory from 16th on the grid in 1995 at spa Like wtf how could you leave that out and what about Kimis victory in Japan 2005
How exactly is Alonso's match-fixing win supposed to be more impressive than Giancarlo or Perez or even Vettel? That's literally match fixing and being last is not even moderately a surprise because they planned all of it out
@@gold9994 Massa would have been WDC without Ferrari cocking up their pitstop, which they had to make anyway. Renault's games had exactly zero to do with his race result.
@@f1jones544 they wouldn't release him that soon if Kimi isn't behind him sitting stationary for too long and potentially overheating if they didn't have to stop because of the safety car
Because this is the Race as we all saw on Edd Straw rating. These people seems to intentionally rage people with controversial content to keed the engagement burning
Kimi 17th to 1st at Suzuka 2005 has got to be in the top 3 no questions. Barrichello 18th to 1st at Hockenheim ‘00 also ranks higher than some on this list in my view. Also John Watson’s 17th to 1st at Detroit ‘82 was almost as impressive as Long Beach, on a tight street circuit that others compared to Monaco for overtaking - overtaking 3 cars in a single lap at one stage deep into the race.
That's a good call. Also Schumacher at Spa in 95. And Kimi at Suzuka 2005. Some great drives didn't make it, but Alonso and crashgate did and Vettel in India is not that impressive, it was an intentional strategy that gave him a tyre advantage for the whole race.
Does Vettel's charge from the back of the field to end up finishing in 6th at the 2012 Brazilian grand prix (and subsequently claiming his 3rd championship) count as a win?
2008's Crashgate should never be spoken about as being "Impressive" or an "Achievement" given it put drivers in danger asking one to crash on purpose to gain a victory.
@@Limegreenedragon with thirty times more likes I somehow doubt they will. Real shame as the list otherwise is fine. Other commenters have pointed to Raikonnen and his amazing drive at Suzuka 2005. All they need to do is switch number four out for Raikonnen and all is golden
@@napalmhotdog4365 I would not disagree, but I'm thinking of the overall situation with Sergio losing his seat and then showing Racing Point their mistake before going over to Red Bull. I'm biased though because I absolutely love Checo. :)
Won't agree coz of Jenson Button's 2011 Canadian GP! He was last, he pitted 6 times, he had damage 3 times, it was wet! It was unpredictable the whole race, that's this is best!
Button on a drying track is a mesmerising spectacle. He had a habit of going early for slicks and making it work, even being off line and making moves that nobody else would dream of.
Don't hate me but I was in the stands RIGHT WHERE JENSON TOOK THE LEAD !!!! In Canada ! I thought the stands were going to collapse from everyone jumping up at once !!!😄😄😄😄😎😎😎😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
The only thing that bothers me about that race is Couthard commentating. He spends years as a commentator and can't pronounce driver names correctly - do your job properly you imbecile! I love the race, but trying to listen to it is painful.
“Trimmed the front wing and fitted a higher top gear” - words you will likely never hear again in respect to a future race. Gearboxes are yet another aspect of variability and tune-ability the sport has robbed from both the teams and the fans in this half-baked turbo-hybrid era. :/
Its perfectly fine to tell a team to have an engine or a certain ammount of cylinders, or to have a turbo, or to even use some kind of hybrid system. But specifying bank angle, bore, stroke number of cams and displacement is way too far. Not to mention the regulations on parts that arent the engine. Ridiculous how restricted our sport has become and hopefully they can deregulate to some extent after 21.
I don’t think the gear ratios matter so much with these engines. They have so much torque and power throughout the rev range that they can set the ratios for the fastest speeds they expect to reach during the season, and not really suffer any issues on shorter straights. They’re often in top gear way before the start/finish line at Monza but still have loads of headroom. That and the fact they now have 8 gears.
You know it's Game over when an imminent rain is about to come and Jenson Button made an early pitstop. the man always a master at changeable condition
I saw an article about 2011 Canada and the "Jenson Barometer" he was pretty much the gauge for the entire paddock for what tyre to be on to the point where other teams would say "Jenson is on inters" meaning inters are the best tyre right now.
@@joeogle7729 Wow that's cool. I also remember some guy made ranking of driver based on mathematical model that count complex advanced statistics that the creator hopefully think will measure based on driver ability with some balance to Nerf the statistical power of dominant car. Almost every F1 driver ranked And Jenson Button ended up in the top 20 or 15 I didn't remember that but that's is still surprising to some. But the most impressive thing is the model suggests only Ayrton Senna perform as good as Jenson on weather affected race. That WordPress article was made during the dawn of social media era before youtube become the preferred media
Perez's was the best. He did it with arguably the 3rd best car at best(remember they were 4th at the end behind mclaren), while others(except fisichella and crashgate renault) were the best or the very close 2nd fastest car.
Perez in respect that the race ran full laps and recovering after the crash huge respect for him and again happening to him in 2021 Bahrain when his car seized up and pit lane start and finishing fifth. Clearing a better driver in terms of handing pressure and crisis much better than max against hamilton.
I wouldn't necessarily say that Vettel's drive at India in 2013 was "a charge from the back," in a conventional sense, he started from pole, easily had the pace and the only reason he was down in 17th on lap 3 was because he was getting his option tyre phase out of the way and was going to regain the lead when the other Option tyre runners early on pitted regardless. In other words, it was a strategic call, not something that was forced upon him. Kimi Raikkonen's epic charge from 17th on the grid to victory at Suzuka in 2005 on the other hand, that is more worthy of being on the list. Rain in qualifying and an engine change penalty left him down there and he had to climb through the field, including his memorable pass on Fisichella on the final lap
Japan, 1988. Senna dropped to 16th at the start of memory serves me. But rules are rules and 16th is not 17th. That said, all listed victories are awesome. Every now and then I watch Canada 2011.
Checo's one hits different and *literally* saved his career, from having to probably say goodbye to the f1 paddock being there for at least 10 years and nothing to being paired up with max for at least the next 2/3 years
Holy Mother of Jesus.... Where is Rubens Barrichellos Win in Germany 2000 and Kimi Räikkönens Win in Suzuka in 2005 ??? Those were absolutely sensational and deserve at the very least a mentioning in this list.
Perez's win last season in my eyes was the best out of all shown on this video, he was in a car that was good but wasn't a title challenging car yet he managed to go from last to 1st to take his first ever win! That's incredible! That one race has now changed his entire career as it opened everyone's eyes to just how incredible he is, now that he has made the jump to redbull and is up to speed already, taking a win for redbull already this season also shows just how underrated he really has been! Just to think if redbull didn't take him in place of albon he wouldn't even have a seat in F1, CRAZY!!
I know it’s not on this list (presumably because although he was 17th on the grid, he didn’t spend a racing lap in that position) but to me Raikkonen’s victory at Suzuka 2005 was more impressive than any of these because there were fewer external circumstances that contributed to it. With most of these there was always someone you could argue deserved the victory more but for some misfortune, momentary mistake etc. I don’t think you could really say that at Suzuka.
As a Schumi fan I always find Canada 2011 incredibly bittersweet as he was brilliant that day and even after losing his 2nd place due to bloody DRS on the straight still almost got Webber on the last lap for 3rd. Also, John Watson was very underrated in my opinion.
How you forgot to include Suzuka 2005, one of the greatest victories/races in Formula 1 history is beyond baffling... Shame to see this from a well respected channel.
I can't recall which exact race this was, but tor me it's the race that got me to watch this sport, and it was HAM charging from the back in the McLaren sometime in his early years.
I was at the 83 Long Beach race, the first one that I attended live. It was a great race. I drove down the west coast from Vancouver and back in a Triumph TR8, which remarkably had no problems at all!
I think it's fair to say (though no doubt some would disagree, not that i care), John Watson's winning drive at Long Beach is one of the greatest race wins in all of F1 history.
