Ian Visser that’s so Stupid, and I thought nothing under 30 seconds could be copywrited? Beside RU-vid of course because their stricter than anyone else
@Ian Visser if its from some video game though, then that artist got paid for his work, and EA or the like footed the bill, thus no one loses any money and once again, anything under 30 seconds isn't technically long enough to be copywritten
@Ian Visser The ping is an actual IRL thing that happens. I bet money theres a gun nut youtube channel that has recorded their own ping. There isn't 1 single ping my guy.
Ian Visser what licensing issues when it’s a real rifle!? They could have just gotten a clip of the actual irl ping and gave credit where it’s due plain and simple
Bolt Action Sniper Rifles: **one shot one kill** Automatic Sniper Rifles that use the same ammo as Bolt Action does: **shoot 2, 3 or 4 whatever not kill immediately**
The bolt action has way more barrel length and way more firepower then the semi auto and the reason you can make a bolt action semi is because a bolt actions power would break the semi auto mechanism into pieces after the second shot and would require an entirely new design to with stand just how much force bolt actions have
Battlefield 3 corrected this by in lore using subsonic ammo WITH the suppressor, reducing range. Originally it was going to reduce damage and a bunch of people were sick of it and complained and dice made the change above, and it's true: subsonic ammo does not have the effective range of supersonic ammo.
yeah it's for balancing purposes. everybody would use a silencer/supressor if it didn't decrease damage or range or something. hence why lots of people use the monolithic from modern warfare
If the bad guy is 6 feet away, a shotgun does little to no damage. While it's not the most effective weapon over greater distances, it's still lethal in a mid-range distance... except in games.
It's to balance the game bc it is a game after all. If you gave every shotgun the range it has in real life then they'd be the most powerful guns in the game. Just look at modern warfare. Everybody used the 725 when the game came out and might still use but idk bc I quit playing it. The range was good and it was a 1 shot kill machine.
you realize miniguns are eletrically powered and consume A LOT of energy when firing. this means treavor also needs to carry around giant batteries as well as the ammo
There is a video of someone wielding a M134 in their hands and shooting it. It's not impossible (they didn't move around because they have to be connected to the batteries and ammo which they weren't holding) but the recoil is manageable because the gun is so heavy most of the force is dispersed by the weight of the gun. It's still impractical but it's not recoil you have to worry about. The main problem is that ammo for the gun is normally in 1000 round boxes, which is about 10 seconds worth of ammo, and it would take the average person at least 90 seconds to reload
That makes sense it breaking after 20 hits, but still doesn't explain how an ACOUSTIC GUITAR doesn't break after a single hit. Like, I get it, even a cheap Strat knock-off is solid wood and durable, it takes musicians several hits of it on the floor with full force just to break it at the neck, but acoustics are hollow inside and trust me, they break very fast if you have a fight during a party.)
Sometimes they miss the point, and it's very cheesy, like fallout or as you mentioned deadrising and was nitpicking silly games, so I agree that the video is dumb, but Zombies doesnt automatically mean realism has to be thrown out the window, often they're used in tandem with real world elements, this can be used to really push hard into survival elements (find the right ammo, find functional parts, reload the gun without wasting ammo) it's been shown with regular survival games literally if you just added zombies the game wouldn't suddenly lose any of its merit (or its blunders) for weapon handling, Games realism level should also rely on its 'feel' than its setting, thus deadrising can get away with more than CoD, I mean I guess you could just say it's a game
For the sneak attacks brought up with the bow segment, I like Metro's explanation. That being that npcs not in combat are relaxed and when in combat the are filled with adrenaline making them harder to kill.
I don't think that works with penetrating bladed weapons. It doesn't matter how taut your muscles are; arrows will go right through into organs if they hit the right place. Being aware has nothing to do with it.
People here seem unaware of the affects of adrenaline... There are many accounts of people during ww2 and Vietnam where people have been shot to swich cheese, fought out the battle and died where they stood/sat after the battle had ended... The worst cases even mentions people having had their hearts shot to pieces and still fought for several minutes (which should not be possible) Strange things happens during a battle, when the combatants are pumped full of adrenaline... even stranger things happen...
@@EvacTouch lmao dude you gave me an idea. What if the Garand ping sound file from COD2 is replaced with the Discord ping? Imagine playing D-Day with that.
However GTAV is the ONLY game I've seen get shotgun range right, all other games if the person is more than 5 meters away they're safe, real life not so much.
Borderlands 3 (of all things), though that may err on the other direction. :D Shotguns are totally long range weapons there, and effective to max range.
All video games: grenades. The real-life grenades are much more deadly than any game shows. They are guaranteed to kill at 25m and will throw shrapnel 100m. Game grenades blow up... about 2m. Every time, every game.
Well the wounding range is 25m but the kill range is 5m with the M67 to be exact but different grenades have different loads of explosives and thickness of the shell.
10:15 Dealing *more* damage when unseen/hidden is ok to *some* degree - as the brain is not flooded with *adrenaline* (which normally increases pain threshold) No adrenaline is why it takes less bullets/hits to shock the nervous system into a shutdown - that's why bullets take seconds to act, as apposed to minutes (if they only relied on bleeding dmg)
also a part of it is when u r undetected, u have time to aim carefully at an enemy, whos not juking and jivin and taking cover, so the explanation is in stealth u aim for vital organs, while in open conflict u take whatever u get
I got in a car wreck and snapped my left femur in half like a twig and broke my neck when my side of the car hit the tree. I dont know if I blacked out. But I had so much adrenaline pumping through me it never occurred to me why I couldn't walk out of the car. I had to crawl out. It wasn't till 20 ft away and maybe an eternity later when my adrenaline wore off that I realized I couldn't stand up becuase my left leg* was hanging by flesh. Thank God for adreneline and seat belts. 🤣 Tl;Dr i had no idea I snapped my femur and broke my neck in a car wreck due to adrenaline until it wore off a few minutes later.
still sure the damage is the same. if i shoot you, with or without adrenaline, your doctors in hospital will do exactly the same, you will have the same pain after 2 hours and the lethality / damage is just the same. But hey we dont need to fight about this, its just video games. you hit an enemy in the leg with an arrow, he shouts, he searches and then he goes "guess it was nothing" and just stands there with his bleeding wound and arrow in his leg. xD
Rick L Most people don’t even know the accurate names of the two 7.62mm bullet types. They just be like “Oh, 7.62. Yeah of course, slap it in. We have dev armor, it’ll work”
Which is complete bullshit. Yes, it can happen, but all you need to do is to hold back the cocking lever with your hand while reloading and only let it slide forward when your thumb's out... and this is something that even a regular infatryman would know and would be warned of.
A small mistake for the last statement there. While you can reload an M1 Garand mid-clip, it won't make the "ping" sound when doing so. The ping only happens on empty reloads.
Odd. Mine makes the ping. I just did it right now. You pull the bolt all the way back and push in your "ejection" button on the side and bam it shoots outand pings. But it only does it when it's about half full.
Another problem with the mini-gun is that it's rotating mechanism is powered by an electric motor, so in addition to the gun itself and the ammo, there's also the immense weight of the batteries you'd need to lug around for it to actually work.
And never mind the other 2 ton+ in weight of ammo and guns they can hold. Gta characters are approaching the kind of strength that Steve from Minecraft has
exactly. It not even need a Mini-gun or a gatling gun to be too heavy. Even today, handling a heavy machinegun is a TROOP-Effort. One gunner, one carrier at least, but mostly you have a third one too. In WW1 setting you needed one carry the cooling system, obe carry the ammo and one carry the gun. I often even seen in documentaries that troops of 4 are done so at least ONE of the MG-troop actually can use a gun to defend them after all. Cause with all three in transport, they are sitting ducks actually.
@@thenthson it has a few hundred separate weapons, and they're not randomly generated weapons that mostly look and act the same barring a few unique versions like in Borderlands, anyway.
You missed that time in Fallout 4, when Kellogg killed the Sole Survivor's spouse with his .44 Magnum, and there was the sound of an empty casing hitting the floor, even though they don't eject their spent casings.
My understanding of sneak damage was it was always a representation of your increased precision and accuracy. A target unaware of you, moving in a more predictable way, while you have the luxury of staying more still and with less stress than seen, this allows you to get off a better shot or hit
Exactly. You are able to to a maximum power draw, while if target is attacking you you are doing kind -of fast draw which is weaker and less precise. so imho that one makes total sense. Another proof of that is if you get arrow in the head it will be a 1 hit one shot regardless if it was sneak or not. thus showing that from sneak you are targeting weak point instead of just shooting to a general area of leg/torso/.arm
I always saw it as someone hit by an arrow while unaware that they are being shot is more likely to go down than someone who sees the arrow coming and is pumped full of adrenaline for a fight.
@@KasumiRINA I don't know; a die-cast ornamental blade with a tang meant only to hold it together in a stand is not going to take a lot of hits, where a cheap guitar may not have good acoustics, but it is meant to survive the abuses of young music students.
It makes scenes though. Katana are not super durable, it actually takes training to learn how to cut things properly with it. Its not hard to believe Frank would break it or at least Dull it to an unusable point, seeing as im sure he has no training with it.
3:39 "a minute accuracy increase seems a little off" no, that's actually right, not with a plastic bottle obviously, but with a real suppressor the extra 6 inches helps mitigate recoil by virtue of adding weight to the end of your rifle and improve accuracy by extending the amount gas build-up in the barrel. not to mention real suppressors have baffles that allows the gas to build up more but not exit the barrel providing a more stable flight without the gas hindering the bullets path, like it could with no suppressor. when a gun is fired you hear 3 sounds very fast, first is the blowback of the gas exiting out of the ejector port with the bullets casing, second is the bullet breaking the sound barrier, the third is the gas breaking the sound barrier. suppressors only stop the 3rd sound, you cant stop the bullet and unless your using a single shot/bolt action/lever action weapon you can't stop the blow-back. you can use sub-sonic ammo, but it's still going to be loud enough to sound like a firework. so there you go.
With the earlier 4.7x33mm caseless cartridges, that is true. However, Dynamite Nobel helped stabilized it, and the ammunition fires just fine without getting spontaneous ammo cook-off. Still, it's preferred not to fired continuously, and besides, G11 isn't designed to be fired in full-auto like machine guns(it does, however, fires 3 rounds at astounding 2000 RPM!).
@@EldishRinger Very much true, yes. That's why I love German-made guns; while complex, their quality is definitely top-notch. Just look at the MG42! By the way, G11 on full-auto fires at 650 RPM, at least from the real-life records. But given that it's a assault rifle first and foremost, coupled with demands for accurate shots, this is not a big deal at all. Like I mentioned before, the 3-round burst fire is its main selling point, capable of laying suppressive fire at ranges, and at astounding 2000 RPM to boot!
@@dellbelphine304 nah, the range on them is still too short. You can reliably hit a target up to around 100 meters with a shotgun IRL. Most semi automatic and automatic rifles IRL are made to shoot at the same distances that sniper rifles shoot ingame. On top of this, automatic is not generally what is used in the military except in close range engagements less than around 150 meters, as a sort of last-resort.
"durable Japanese steal" Japanese steal wasn't very durable compared to the steal that the Europeans we're blessed with It is very possible for a traditional Japanese katana to bend when wielded by an inexperienced person because they weren't as resistant and springy as European steal The only thing that was very durable was the hardened edge which was clay tempered by skilled Japanese swordsmiths But it is still absolutely ridiculous that in the game, a guitar is more durable than a katana
It's pretty easy to answer the question of why the katana breaks faster.. It's a mall katana it was never forged just a piece of sharp metal that looks like a sword to hang on your wall
@@original_cb0895 Pattern welding is only really necesary if you have low quality steel to begin with. The reason that you fold it in the first place is to even out the impuritys of the metal. Compared to most contemporary european swords most katanas would have fallen short in the durability departement. Not becouse of poor craftsmanship, just due to the materials available. Sorry for bad grammer, not English.
For the love of god, the Garand closes automatically when the clip hits the bottom of the magazine. At least most of the time. In most games the character pushes the bolt forward which is incorrect. Sometimes it gets stuck but most of the time you have to hold the bolt to keep it from slamming on your thumb, 12:00 hence the term "Garand thumb".
It hurts even more to see the hand placement. Karate chop the bolt with right hand while holding a clip, push the clip with your thumb. Return your hand to the grip. Bam! - no garand thumb ever with this technique.
The edge of a katana is insanely hard (basically because they had bad steel and had to fold it to spread the contamination and do an edge quench) compared to European swords with a through tempered monosteel. Would take a longsword over a katana, but that's personal taste
@@saintjames1995 no, they would not, we can know this because of the reports, at the time by Europeans in Japan, Matt Easton of Schola Gladiatora has done a video of it, from primary sources, but at heart, a katana is a good sword, not a magic weapon or a piece of garbage (in general, specific swords being poorly made happens to everyone) but a credible weapon.
@@saintjames1995 I'm not being a week, you can go to primary sources (for instance Swordsmen of the British Empire) to find out what in this case British officers who encountered, fought against, and in some cases took as trophies, Katanas thought of them, how they compared to European swords etc: conclusion, a credible weapon, and a genuine threat. Not magic, but not garbage either.. also what type of Claymore? Which period? I prefer European longswords, but a katana is still a dangerous weapon,
Well there's the thing that deagles can't be suppressed, because it works by releasing excess gasses through secondary channels. Also, a deagle, heavy, with its powerfully kicking .44 magnum round, is quite bad for follow-up shots. No special forces team in the world would pick a deagle. Glock all the way😍
Here's one for you: in Fallout 2 the .44 S&W revolver does significantly more damage and costs fewer Action Points to fire (i.e. it shoots faster) than the .44 Desert Eagle, even though as a semi-automatic it should realistically have a higher muzzle velocity and rate of fire. Also, reloading the Desert Eagle costs 2 AP, whereas reloading the revolver normally also costs 2 AP and with a speedloader only 1 AP. So reloading the revolver is actually FASTER than reloading any magazine-fed gun in the game.
1:41 In modern small arms systems when your firearm is empty, the bolt is held back by a small part called a bolt catch. This catch works in unison with the magazine follower, as soon as your last round is in the chamber, and the magazine is empty, the magazine follower pushes up on your bolt catch hence locking your bolt open and not requiring you to "cock" your weapon, but instead push a button sending your bolt flying forward and immediately chambering a round.
uhm, no. If your last round is in the chamber then the follower was too low to snag the bolt catch. Once the magazine is empty and rounds are expended (action cycled after last shot has been fired and the bolt has cycled), a mag follower would keep a bolt open. And it doesn't matter if you re-rack or hit a bolt catch release - once tension on the bolt catch is released it falls away and allows the bolt to move freely to chamber a new round. This, of course, is completely relative to the weapons platform, but I'm assuming you're talking about an AR15 or similar.
On number 3 with dealing double damage being unseen, I discovered that one of the hints in metro exodus says sneaking does more damage because the enemy is calm and has no adrenaline pumping through their body to nullify the pain during combat giving them less health calm. Not screaming at you, most of the list is correct and there are also some exceptions when it comes to the adrenaline when you hit them like where you hit, other than that, everything else made no sense
I wouldn't take a loading screen that attempts to add lore to the game as legitimate medical expertise, but I'm not a medical expert. It could be true for all I know.
Actually doing more damage while hidden might make sense, if we know were in combat our fight or flight kicks in and we get an adrenaline boost so it kinda does make sense if you think about it.
Soldiers faked a reload by slapping an empty cartridge against their helmets, making that ping sound. The enemy rushed in for the kill only to find a rifle ready to shoot them down.
Actually the target's adreneline levels can make a difference. Once i heard a story of a guy in Vietnam who got shot five times and didn't feel a thing. So yeah, it makes sense that stealth attacks deal double damage compared to in combat attacks.
@@johnwarren8375 being shot in the head doesn't always mean an instant death. The bullet has to hit vital parts of your brain that you cannot live without. I mean look at someone like phineas gaige who had a giant metal rod go through his head and he was still physically ok.
most games missing the range of shotguns. buckshot is still deadly @ about 100meters, not talking about bullets, in games they usually are worthless @ 25+ meters
@@dithaingampanmei slugs usually work fine in the games, it's buckshot that has too much spread for balance reasons. IRL, rifles are designed to be fired hundreds of meters away, in the games it won't work with the low field of view we have on monitors. So everything is "closer". Real shotgun range is about how far assault rifles shoot in videogames. And rifles shoot way further.
The whole shotgun distance thing is literally a developer choice. If a shotgun was as devastating up too 100m plus, in reality people would never ever use any other gun
Don't know if other games do this, but CoD has done this for a long time until recently. For ones like CoD4, WaW, MW2, BO1, etc. the shot from the shotgun will disappear after a certain amount of distance, usually very short. That's one of the reasons the akimbo 1887 shotguns were so brutal and effective until they had to get patched twice (the second to fix a glitch that using FMJ would restore the range).
@@todd3654 like what? cause im looking for imperfections in modern warfare 19's weapons. I think they did a fantastic job with them and im looking for imperfections and all im finding is people saying the guns are not built like the real thing, some are hybrids. Thats really all i found, i would like your insight though.
I'm not gun jesus but I'm pretty well informed and experienced with firearms and I was extremely surprised with how accurate this list is. I expected tons of misinformation but it's good to go.
@@ghosthunterc I thought it was very odd he chose 380acp as the cartridge to use as an example there but he didn't actually say it was a rifle round. There was footage of a guy using the plastic bottle on a rifle but I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt that that was an editing flub up.
Allen Rader ahh, good catch... the rifle video did throw me off. Still kind of a silly round to reference in that instance, but letting it slide as well!
1. "Weaker" characters using a bow over huge distance with no apparent regard to the draw weight required to shoot a bow over long distances. 2. Massive swords, axes etc. that would be too heavy to wield. 3. Diamond Sword - would just snap in half if you tried to use it.
Well, to be honest most of them are from fantazy games that don't even try to be realistic. Exept TES series. In Skyrim two handed and several one handed swords and maces are too pecking big
Also weak characters with rapier, a rapier is as heavy as any other one handed sword, that weight is concentrated near the handle, leaving the tip nice and narrow, to fit into any hole (in armour, obviously)
The guns in ARK: Survival Evolved. Why does modernizing a weapon suddenly make it weaker? a 6-shot revolver shooting a literal iron ball does twice as much damage as a rifled modern-ish handgun with precise bullets
Full penetration does less damage because the projectile doesn't remain in the target and jostle around. Works that way in real life too, i.e. hollow points vs full metal jacket/armor piercing rounds, with hollow points doing more damage to fleshy targets because the fragments remain embedded in the target and shred from the inside out.
@@Chip-Chapley because a lead ball does more damage then a modern round. Black powder weapons and muskets have more destructive power then moder firearms because of the bullet shape. A modern bullet is designed to cut through flesh and flatten when they hit a solid object. So when a modern round hits bone it flattens and the surrounding tissue absorbs the impact. This is not the case with a lead ball, it doesn't flatten like a modern round. It just smashes through things. A better way to compare this is that a modern round is a sharp knife and a lead ball is a hammer. If i swing one at you quickly which one is going to do more damage?
@@aaronraney3685 lead balls actually don't "smash through you" they ricochet inside you. Also, the rounds we have today are better for maiming and quick clean kills, lead balls are painful and slow. So really, no on all fronts. Might add, the knife is going to do more damage with good placement, hammer is going to be slow and painful. Very good analogy, not for sure if you realized it works against you.
Depends on how u secure it to the barrel. And it doesn't shred like in dayZ. You fire it once, burn the hole to make a little bigger and the next bullet should not hit the bottle. It's shitty and mostly acts as an flash hider because the noise reduction is minimal, but its still quite a good option stealthwise.
@@tilipitappio it isn't the bullet destroying the bottle IRL, it is the expanding gas leaving the barrel that would destroy the bottle. Depending on the weapon, caliber, and bottle shape, the bottle would be pretty wrecked.
@@Carencrobear2005 tested this with .308 and a 1,5l coke bottle and the bottle did not explode or got shred. Maybe calibers over .308 do something to the bottle? Or above 30-06, cuz that did nothing more than was not so loud.
Some weapons do require you to cock them when empty, particularly weapons where the bolt doesn't hold open on empty. Other rifles, like the AR platform, only need to be cocked once, and that's from a closed bolt position. After that, whether doing a tactical reload (reload before empty) or reloading on empty, you don't have to cock the weapon. The difference with the AR platform between a tactical and empty reload is on an empty reload, you slap the paddle (bolt lock) or press your B.A.D. lever (if installed). This allows the bolt that's held back on empty to slam forward, chambering the first round off the mag. If you already have a round chambered, you just need to make sure you've fully seated the mag, and you're good to go. I have yet to handle/use an AK platform, but from what I understand, some, or perhaps most, don't hold open on empty, so you would need to cock it again. As for a tactical reload on an AK, I don't know enough yet to comment. Some handguns are weird, too, not allowing you to drop a mag until empty, while most will let you drop the mag before empty. The pistol I carry everyday, an Astra A-100, has this quirk on some models depending who you ask, and it seems to be more dependent on your magazine from what I can tell. Mine did this with a brand new mag, but after sitting there compressing the spring about a thousand times with a wooden dowel, the spring loosened up, and it would allow me to drop the mag when chambered and a full mag. Firearms are not magic boxes that spray bullets, but rather complex engineered machines, and each machine has its quirks. To apply a universal "this is how guns work" statement is typically what you hear from people who don't own, use, and maintain firearms. Just remember that the guns you've seen in gaming BARELY scratches the surface of what's offered in the real world. It's quite fascinating, and the more you explore the real world of shooting, the more you start to hate video games for portraying weapons so poorly.
From what I understand, AKs vary wildly, so it pretty much comes down to how lucky you are. Some have more AR platform functions, some have no bolt catch, some make a cutout so your safety latch is what catches the bolt, etc. Like I said, it's pretty much how lucky or unlucky you get, and I imagine if you *really* wanted your AK to catch on empty, you could do it, but you'd still have to use your other hand to release it regardless As a side note I thought of after I got post, the AKs I've fired don't have the cutout bold catch or anything. Gotta do it manually. In some videos I've seen it, but they were Romanian AKs I think? Where your get your AK is really important to how it functions and what features.
@@Patrick-vn4sb doing a press check requires you to pull(most of the time) a spring loaded charging handle rather than just letting the muscle memory kick in and just charging the bolt and start shooting
@@austinrobertson1134 I'm aware Ive been shooting since I was 7 and that still doesn't make sense and seems like some ppl are confused. Press check literally pull the bolt or slide back a fraction of an inch, you see brass? Your good. It's not some science that takes longer than fully charging and possibly losing a round
You have to modify and prepare them though. You can't just unscrew an oil filter from an old jeep and screw it on to any random gun you find lying on the floor. I've been around oil filter suppressors before, but not manufactured ones, so I can't argue for their efficiency one way or the other. Very loud though.
Oil filters will absolutely WRECK your weapon if you use them as suppressors. If you like cleaning your guns (most of us don't) then go ahead and use one. You'll have to modify the oil filter instead of taking a regular one out of a car.
6:08 was expecting them to talk about the actual explosion, its called a mini -nuke- youd expect the explosion to be alot bigger, but yea i guess the rads makes sense,a fair debuff from the op weapon.
Realism is fun when done right. Let's say a scenario: You have five full magazines left, but your current one has only five rounds in it. You reload. You shoot 10 rounds of the new magazine and reload again. If you keep going like this, you would be left with all incomplete mags in your pocket, which are no good for spraying. That indecision of reloading would be INTENSE. And when you Win, because your instincts were right... Now that could be a euphoric experience.😎
@@dithaingampanmei As you say, certain realistic mechanics can be great when done well. S.T.A.L.K.E.R had guns with impulse, muzzle velocity and bullet drop, recoil and creep and accuracy that dropped to nothing if you moved faster than a snail pace I mean boring realism like running and gunning, crosshairs floating in front of your face, jumping and shooting, shotguns having a lethal range up to arms length, guys getting hit like they've been hit with a sledgehammer, head shots at a hundred meters being stopped by a tin helmet, discharging thousands of rounds with no maintenance, reloading in seconds... I could go on. But I'd much rather guns be fun to use than accurately represented.
There is actually a video that exains how the fatman could be created irl, and i dont remember if it was really expensive, cheap, or somewhere in the middle
It was cheaper than what he originally imagined. His first idea was 72 billion for one mini nuke but then when he changed substance the price dropped by about 72 billion
@@leguisioso688 explain plz lol, from what im getting, you are sayin is practically free to make now? Since it was 72 billion and dropped by 72 billion lol
Outside of active combat zones, most military personnel wear minimal or no armor. It's heavy stuff, and few people will wear it 24/7. That, and modern armor is modular, so you have the soft armor vest (good for most pistol, some shotgun, and a handful of rifle calibers), and the hard armor plates (good for most rifles you'll encounter in the field)
The case with the M1 Garand, particularly in games centered around the war, is not that it is physically impossible to reload without emptying the clip; rather it was doctrine to train troops to only reload after firing the weapon empty. The reason for this, which you missed in your description, is that the clip cannot be ejected when there's still ammunition in it. There is no way to do so, no magic button. The way you manually reload an M1 Garand is one cartridge at a time. It can be done, just like with the M1903 Springfield, Kar98k, Lee-Enfield and other weapons loaded with stripper clips. However, you don't get the ping. The reason soldiers and Marines were trained to fire until empty is because they were issued their ammunition preloaded in clips. It's not a likely scenario that a man on the ground is going to have the loose rounds needed to reload his rifle mid-clip. If he's done engaging the enemy, he will likely have an empty rifle anyway. If he doesn't, he clears his weapon by manually cycling it and brings the loose ammunition to the ranking officer (or keeps it for later).
There is a magic button on the left side of the receiver with which you can eject the clip and any remaining rounds, you'll need to lock the bolt back first though.
Clip can be ejected when there it still have ammunition. The "magic" button is located on the left side of the Garand. Most if not all of the M1 Garand model has it and it is clearly visiable. That being said, it is unlikely for the solider on the battlefield to reload mid round because it takes more time to do so. I am not a historian and going to speak from per speculation. The BAR and Browning 1919 both used 30-06 so it is not entirely impossible that they would have loose rounds. I feel like the possibility is very low to be honest.
Tavi where are you getting your information from? It's objectively wrong. " rather it was doctrine to train troops to only reload after firing the weapon empty" can you site your source for this? Because this either encourages soldiers to commit war crimes or for them to walk into combat with one round in their rifle. Topping off your weapon at every opportunity is pretty much standard practice in every military around the world, for obvious reasons.
I have soo many issues with soo many of the guns. One of them being the UZI not having an open bolt firing delay yet the SA87(pre patch anyways) had one when that gun is a closed bolt system.
@@oh_hi_mark8586 some of the prototype versions of the L86 in real life were open bolt, it's possible that an employee read the wrong part of research and didn't realise that the production version is closed bolt.
About the M1 Garand, although you can reload in mid clip, usually the WW2 GIs were told to fire the remaining rounds rather then ejecting manually the clip and inserting a new one.
The idea behind the surprise attack is when you are aware and braced for impact your muscles contract instinctually making you a lot more likely to survive. Look at car crash data, drivers survive more often than unaware passengers, especially sleeping ones.
Isn't the advantage drivers have over passengers more about how they can brace themselves with the steering wheel? And aren't people more likely to avoid injuries if they are relaxed, since that is what absorbs impacts? Not that relaxing is going to help you not get pierced by an arrow or anything else sharp, but still.
@@alearnedman I'm not sure how big of a role the steering wheel plays but awake and aware passengers have a higher chance of survival compared to those who didn't pay attention or were asleep. When you are relaxed you don't chose how the impact is being distributed, so instead of your muscles absorbing the hit more force reaches the internal organs and therefore be fatal, think about it like getting punched in the stomach, your recover quicker if you flex it. And yeah a well aimed arrow is a death sentence.
With blunt damage, like collisions, ignoring broken necks and skulls, tightened muscles act like armor. Against sharp arrows and knives, the muscle doesn't matter nearly as much.
Their is a lot of evidence that actually going limp during a car crash will increase chances of survival. People speculate this is why drunk drivers usually survive a car crash but people in the other car or their passengers die. Either way that’s not gonna protect you from a bullet or arrow in any meaningful way. Your flesh is far closer to water than it is to something like metal armor or even wood.
@@omaryunus7445 Normally passengers are drunk as well. Do drunk drivers survive more often than sober ones? I just know they survive more often than passengers.
Just Cause 3: you can reload a swing revolver by breaking it open and spinning it around like a cowboy, you can also shoot an entire clip on a lever action shotgun without using the lever, but load new rounds in by using the lever
My favorite part about shooter games is when you zoom in with a shotgun the accuracy gets better, as if the pellet spread gets tighter by holding it up to your eye.
There's so many things games get wrong about the Garand: #1 - The rear sight is not that big, it's actually significantly smaller. #2 - Even the games that do allow you to reload mid-clip would still get this wrong: You can't just pull back the operating-rod and have the clip eject; you'd also have to press the eject button on the left-hand side. And when you do eject a partially loaded clip to a full clip, it actually wouldn't go ping. #3 - War In The Pacific may be applauded for its realism of including the infamous Garand thumb, it's somewhat of a myth. Somewhat. If the bolt is pulled all the way back and is not protruding beyond the feeding lips, and you load in a full 8-round clip it's actually least likely to whack your thumb. The key is to apply downward pressure; as long as there's pressure, the operating-rod wouldn't--or at least shouldn't--smack forward; it's once you release the pressure would the operating rod actually move forward, but even if it doesn't you just smack it forward with the palm of your hand. The Garand thumb should only occur when: A) the bolt is protruding, B) you're reloading with less than a full 8-round clip, and C) you're closing the bolt on an empty chamber as this would require you to press down the magazine floor-plate with your thumb. And while it may be generally accepted knowledge when you are reloading the M1 to hold the operating-hand back with the knife of your hand, it's not really how troops were trained during the time. Having watched M1 training videos from the early to mid '40s, even from the Korean War, troops were actually trained to curl up their fingers and raise their elbows, and press down on the clip with a sort of thumbs-down gesture. They weren't really taught to worry about the Garand thumb.
To be fair about the rear sight, if it was represented accurately in game you wouldn't be able to see through it as games don't handle focal points well. The dev for h3vr discussed this issue to explain why some of his rear sight apertures were bigger than their real life counterparts. I agree spot-on with everything else though. And I don't know about you, bit even if I'm sure the bolt is completely locked back on an m1, I still have the rear of my palm near the charging handle as I'm not taking any chances.
Adrenaline, muscle tension, expectation of pain, these are all factors totally different in both circumstances. So the same shot could have different results based on awareness...
The one about dealing more damage from stealth makes sense to me honestly. You feel less pain when full of adrenaline and that's how I've rationalized that.
Pain usually isn't a significant contributor to death in trauma though. It's generally things like severe blood loss or nervous system damage. In other words, all the painkillers in the world couldn't save you from an arrow through the heart or brainstem. I do appreciate that some games have tried to create a lore-friendly explanation for sneak damage though. Honestly, the logic of it has never crossed my mind amd it's certainly not gonna keep me up at night.
@@AlcerusOfficial Yeah heads shots should almost always be one shots. I’m just saying that if someone Stabs you when you aren’t looking you’re more likely to go down instead of if you see them stab you and get that Fight or Fight adrenaline rush.
That uhhh...that doesn't excuse the reload animation. Garry's Mod runs off of the same engine and people make firearm SWEPs that have multiple different reload animations depending on how many bullets are in the firearm. In fact games like Day of Infamy and Insurgency Sandstorm run off the Source engine and even have multiple animations for reloading.
@@rio-cacodemon Ehhhh, not really game design. It's not being lazy per say as these reload animations were made back in like...what 2012? I think it's more so the animator was like "Eh...no one will really be looking at it THAT hard." And just kinda make it good enough for what it was meant to be. Valve kinda has a weird history with guns and getting minor things and major things wrong. Like Half-Life's Shotgun, and CS;S pulling back the gas release to chamber a round.
There is also the fact that an M134 Minigun uses an electric de-linker to remove the bullets from their links, so he'd also have to be lugging around two full sized car batteries and the cable(s) to connect it all.
*Nitpick* "The last of us" is nowhere near being "one of the greatest video games ever made" it has great characters, good story. Gameplay? It does what it needs to, but you're not playing for gameplay. Not shitting on tLoU, it's more of a movie that has a game on the side.
I was playing the original Killzone a few days ago & can confirm it also does a Left For Dead / Counter Strike type thing, where everytime you switch a weapon the cocking animation plays out & it was super annoying in the game as you've switched a weapon because its speedier than reloading, but you've gotta sit through a 2 / 3 second animation of the cocking whilst taking a bunch of damage
Yes, although if you want to be a real nerd you can point out that M1 has a magazine as well, but it's an internal, not detachable kind and you don't use it to reload, but in a very strictly technical sense M1 still uses a magazine
@@maximk9964 yeah. Otherwise the rounds wouldn't be pushed up. I know about the internal magazine. I love the m1 ping though. Everybody loves it. If they don't, they're probably communists lol.
@@AtheistGamerz I do love its ping, although I only ever heard it in games, I wish I knew someone who has an M1 to shoot it IRL a few times. For me it's a little steep, I don't know about the US, but in Canada they are hard to find and run you about $2500 with 30-06 being pretty expensive ammo as well. When I can have an SKS (like a Communist) for $250 and cheap surplus ammo it seems a little hard to justify
10:32 I never got that either, maybe they want to reward you for being stealthy? but then you realize that not getting shot while trying to aim properly is enough of a reward
Its because adrenaline if you shoot someone unaware of whats happening they wont have the same amount of adrenaline as in say a full on gun fight. People have been shot 4-5 times in a war and dont die until the adrenaline recedes its actually really intriguing how it all works
Why?, People can have extensive knowledge of guns without firing one. If I read the manual for driving a standard front to back with no experience and went into a driving course I would do quite well as I know all the functions. If someone who learned from experience did the same they may not do quite as well as I said, experience also equals knowledge but may not be equal to I who has read the manual and done alot of research. TLDR person read driving manual front to back will most likely have more knowledge then someone who learned from scratch (after going through I figured out that the experienced person would have a higher "practicality" than reading as they know and commit to heart the functions as well but may not know some things the manual person does)
Having fired many M1s and owning an example made in 1944, yes, the design is such that it is not required but in practice, I find it's needed about 50% of the time. It was common practice in thew 1940s as well.
It’s honestly funny that the only game I know that does the whole “you can’t reload it until you empty the magazine” is black ops 3 when you can get the garand in a loot crate, and the game makes you walk on walls and use specialists abilities, the most unrealistic game tries to be the most realistic with the gun
Think you misunderstood, NOT being able to reload it mid clip is what's wrong. It is possible, but is difficult and wasn't commonly done. So Black Ops 3 remains unrealistic entirely lol.
J. Smith I’m aware, I was saying that they did the no reloading thing to the gun like most games do, not knowing that it’s false and they still did it wrong, I was just making the joke because it’s the only game I’ve seen it implied into a game and it’s the most futuristic
Along with the "double damage when sneak attacking with bows" feature in some games, it's also featured in skyrim and not only with bows, but with melee weapons such as daggers.
Skyrim also has a whole section of a skill tree devoted to sneak attack damage. If I remember correctly, you get x15 dagger damage and then x3 bow damage.
@@RealBrizz Clips and magazines are different. Clips hold ammunition whereas magazines have a spring to ready the next round. Example: M1 Garand has a clip that you load into the magazine of the rifle. The magazine inside the rifle has the spring. Ak47 has a 30 round magazine as it had the sping in each one. Hope this helps
@@PingingVoid the video is about firearms realism in games, he said another unrealistic thing from games, and your having a go at him for doing what the video was doing?
Note: If you run out of ammo in a weapon that has a charging handle (M4/M16 series style weapons) you do not pull the charging handle back as the bolt will lock to the rear and once you replace the magazine, you only have to press the bolt release. This not only sends the bolt forward, but it also chambers a round, saving you a step of having to rack the weapon. If you swap magazines before you run out of ammo, then you do not need to do anything as the bolt should already be forward with a chambered round and you simply continue to fire. If you do pull the charging handle, you eject the chanbered round, wasting it. The only time you pull the charging handle is when a fresh magazine is entered into a weapon with no chambered round and the bolt is forward. That and for brass checks with a slight pull.
