(104)The Miranda Class 

I've always loved this ship. It's the first time we got to see a diffrent starship other than the Constitution. It was long over due to see other kinds of starships on screen.

The thing I always like about the Miranda-class is its look. It's different enough that someone won't confuse it with the Constitutions, but similar enough to know the ships are in the same fleet. 🙂

This was one of the many smart ideas that the producers of Star Trek II had. Instead of going cheap and reusing the Enterprise model for Khan's ship, instead coming up with the Miranda class. Enjoyed this vid and all of your other works as well!

I’ve always like the underslung warp nacelles, the Miranda and Nebula classes. Thank you for this video.

I remember I used to not care much for Mirandas, but in more recent years I've come to really like and appreciate the brilliance in their simple yet multi-mission design. Definitely my favorite of all workhorse designs through out the lore. My favorite variant would have to be the Soyuz class though, as it's basically a much more advanced and powerful Miranda with increased hangar and internal space, allowing it a role as more of a mainline exploration vessel. As a workhorse it would logically be better with the increased cargo space. I always imagined it being a go-to shuttle delivery vessel in peacetime and fighter carrier in wartime.

This is one of the classes of Starships I love. This is also one of many ships I have in Star Trek online. Incredible job is always.

To be fair, the Miranda core is in the rear of the hull, where there are more decks, making its vertical arrangement quite plausible.

Definitely liked the Miranda when first seeing it in STII, it was nice to finally see a different class of starship for once, and a really slick design on top of it.

I seen the Miranda class is the US Army version of the 2.5 truck and the Excelsior class is the US Army version of the 5 ton truck.

Loved this ship since the first time I saw it on the big screen at the beginning of Wrath of Kahn!

Ah the Miranda class.... jack of all trades, master of none, and sadly woefully ill equipped to face off against the Borg and Dominion threats, though my head cannon blamed Starfleet Command not an aging design

There are only two starship models in my office: NCC-1701 Refit... and NCC-1864: two of the most beautiful ships of the line in Star Trek history. As someone posted earlier, if I couldn't serve on a Connie, I would want to serve on a Miranda class.

Back when I was young, I purchased a set of blueprints for Reliant. (in the pre intraweb era before all you yununs had a phone glued to yer hands.!!!) They called it an Avenger class heavy frigate. I can't remember who produced them but they were a cool look at this class, even if the information was not the best. They called the rollbar phaser systems 'megaphasers'. Don't know what happened to my copy of the plans, but they were cool.

Still my favorite starship design ever. Thanks for the video on it!

I've always loved this design. It's one of Eaglemoss's best models and I have all the Miranda variants Souyez, Reliant and one that I can't remember. The XL version of the Reliant is my favorite one.

Great video always wondered about this ships history. Its rumoured that Harve Bennett approved the design after seeing it upside down haha Truth or Myth 😉

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form possibly provided indeed, And I myself have always loved the Miranda class design of starship's and I myself own all of the various designs of the Miranda from Eaglemoss models as well as various model kits and other various little pre-builts of the ship as well,👌.

Poor Miranda class, from work horse to flying explosion waiting to happen

Another excellent episode! Thank you for your hard work in bringing this class in the best yet logical light for ST fans to enjoy.

To all those haters of the Miranda class...The class and its variants served admirably in its century of service to Starfleet and U.F.P.. Through countless routine mundane assignments and numerous battlespace engagements, a straight forward Jack of All Trades, Master of None...The definition of a workhorse space vessel.

Love this ship from the 1st time I saw it.

I remember reading somewhere that the Reliant was originally upside down but was flipped to its current orientation after people thought it looked too similar to the Enterprise. If that flip never happened it's easy to imagine a timeline where there was a lot less design diversity in Starfleet ships so I'm glad it did!

Miranda class, Reliant module is one of my favorite space capships period.

6:30 🤩🤩 I was hoping you’d mention this I remember being told that as a kid and being unable to comprehend it, then as I got older and got more heavily thought invested into sci-fi, recognised the extended rear section of the saucer, plus the raised thicker section at the rear as well, actually containing more internal space than the constitutions secondary hull was a 🤯 moment Which only further shows why this design lasted so damned long compared to the constitution itself

I had always head canoned this ship existing in a TOS style along side the Connie, mostly because it amuses me and looks kinda good that way.

The shear length of time some of these ship classes were in service for, (in Star Trek) is just really hard to fathom. It would be like a modern navy still using ships from the Victorian era or something.

Well done on this one. And it coveres the lack of $$$ for the Special effects the Studios gave the various trek movies and series. CGI finally allowed more new and original ships to be rendered and it got better the cheaper the cost!

another great video I much enjoyed watching it

Always loved the Miranda Class! Like the car I drive ( Ford Crown Victoria ) its platform was easy to manufacture, traditional frame, sturdy, flexible to modern upgrades and uses. She may have been a "Tin Can" by the 24th Century. But, her pedigree, length of reliable service, and simplicity and effectiveness, has earned her a place in my heart! And she is a handsome gal to boot!

Excellent. I’m glad you didn’t go for the refit story for the _Miranda_ class. I never did buy into that angle myself. Well done.

Miranda Class is like that first car we bought. We will always have a favorable opinion of him, even though he is small and simple. I liken my affection for Miranda Class to what some people have for the former Wolkswagen Beetle (see Herbie).

This type of lighter vessel is so cute, it's very flexible to lands on heavy vessel carries or spaceports.

Fun fact , the Miranda class actually has more mass then a constitution class in a more compact design.

I've always wondered if there was an ambassador class equivalent. Like the curry and nebula

It was the 80s. The Miranda class ship. Was the Oldsmobile delta 88 to the constitutions delta 98.😛

Another excellent video! Love the story you've created for the class. And, of course there is a vertical intermix chamber! It's what is shown in ST:II!

Oh hellz yeah, another Miranda Trekumentary video!! 🤘😎

An old favorite:) Well Done.

"Unidentified Federation ship, identify yourself" "Ay ay ay ay ay ay like you verrrrrrrry much......" "Definitely a Miranda-class ship Captain...."

Thank you very much for this nice Truth OR Myth BETA- The Miranda Class

The Miranda, so modular that one of its variants ended up getting its OWN class; the Soyuz. I've always loved this ship, and I know full well there's probably a couple still flying around after 2401.

I just love the idea of public relations playing a factor in a starships design or continuous use.

Beauty ship and another beauty ToM installment :)

Nicely done.

I love that you pointed out the vertical warp core... first time i saw it in star trek the motion picture on the Enterprise... i only would say its smaller of course then the Enterprises vertical warcore! Love it more then the tos warp core that led to Enterprise NX-01 possibly warp core!

I really enjoyed the updated video about the Miranda, it is very informitable. Keep up the great work

Really good episode Tri!

One of the best episodes so far. Nice work. More, please.

One of my favorite ships.

When I first saw the Wrath, I noticed the two shuttle bays at the rear of the Reliant. Since the Constitution only had one shuttle bay, I concluded , as a 10 year old, that the Miranda class was a cargo ship. I hope Star Fleet will forgive me. LOL.

"KHANNNN!!!!" - Admiral James T Kirk

Would you do a video on the Bozeman? I always thought it was a hopped up Miranda class when I was a kid

Personally if i couldnt command a Connie i would Love to command a Miranda to me a Miranda was an awesome ship as good as any Connie =) specially when you consider what an inexperianced crew did to the Refit Enterprise in Wrath of Khan . little ship kicked the hell out of the Flag ship of the Fleet =)

Next to the NX, Daedalus and Constellation Class, the Miranda Class would be a vessel I would be proud to commandeer. It’s a simple yet versatile design and like any car it could be tuned to go faster and further. It’s a Frigate Vessel but it could be a destroyer or explorer vessel. There are three/four(Soyuz) variants but the classic torpedo top spoiler is the must have.

I always liked the Miranda... Especially when it took the Enterprise to task lol

Steamrunner, Nebula, then Odyssey, Akira, and Miranda.

People really complain about the Miranda Core? Rofl! I thought it was obvious it was vertical I mean we saw it on screen haha

I've always liked the Miranda class it's a really great Starship a really amazing design

Love the vertical warp core disclaimer. Can’t fight the vertical core shown in wrath of Kahn

You always do great videos and I have always liked the underslung designs of the Miranda and Nebula, they are a beautiful and logical compliment to the iconic primary / secondary hull designs. But if feels like a bit of a trope to me that ' this ship came into being because that ship was old or flawed in its design. I also dislike the notion of 'lets build a thousand Mirandas' or ' lets build a million Enquiries'. There seems to be little acknowledgement that fleets a built out of different vessels. Frigates, cruisers, escorts, destroyers, battleships, carriers, torpedo boats, anti-air, anti-sub and so on. The modular and multipurpose design of the Miranda is definitely a believable reason for the class's longevity. Being able to turn it into a crew transport, shuttle platform, science ship, or cargo haulier with ease is a great feature. But there needs to be cannon reason so many designs and so many of the most prominent positions are filled by ships of the primary /secondary type. Again not being a critic but trying to offer an alternative point of view.

I want to see a member of The Excelsior class in the next Picard season ferrying a high official of some kind of conference. In the current timeline anyways.

A golden olde

love this class and I even love the Nebula even more. Always felt they were more powerful than their counter parts. Star Trek gets a lot of thing wrong either due to bad writing or depicting certain scenes wrong, so despite seeing it in the film, I have to side with them messing the scene up for obvious reasons. ST2 had a fraction of the budget ST1 had. Although maybe they are using future tech like in that one episode in Star trek Enterprise where they find a futuristic small vessel, size of a escape pod almost yet having its internal room being multiple times its actual size. You could explain that warp core scene with that. Makes more sense that way than trying to figure out how they added a vertical warp core.

Also I don't know why I keep coming back to the idea of a Star Trek version of Booster Terrik tooling around in a clapped out old ship but this one fits that almost as well as the Ptolemy does from the modularity.

Miranda class is the best class.

Best starfleet ship ever

I like the more compact, though still spacious, layout of the Miranda class. I would have loved to see a more updated version of it, (TNG era+)...

Long live the Miranda Class

I like the enterprise refit, but the miranda class has a sleek look to it.

Cut 'em off! Vertical Warp Core FTW!

Great video! Did you get the info about internal space from EC HEnry's video by any chance ? ;-)

I love this ship!

Being smaller and more modular than Constitution Class, the Miranda class was much more dost effective.

I her prime she was a jewel!

Lovely video. What is the problem with the vertical warp core?

Dude you should have been scooped up by paramount for this. The narrative is the only one I can think of that would give you a reason to basically rebuild an entire ship just to keep the Enterprise name.

If you joined starfleet, chances are you’ll serve on a Miranda class.

I honestly like this class more than the Constitution. Such as leak design for it's time.

Cheaper then the constitution class but a update for the aging current ships from the early 22nd century which were not aging well.

Did you know that they could replace the weapons module on the “role bar” with a bowling alley module?

The Miranda Class was superior to the Constitution class in every way; it was smaller and more maneuverable, the phasers could be used in all directions, Torpedoes could be fired front and rear, and there was no "soft spots". The neck of the constitution was so slim and long, a couple torpedoes could break the Constitution class in half making it useless. The Constitution class only had phasers on the saucer section, facing forward. The torpedoes also only facing forward. Being a larger ship, they would have to make slow 180 degree turns to keep enemy in line of fire. If attacked from side or behind, the Constitution was defenseless and just a target dummy. With the module bar on the Miranda class able to be changed out, it can equip multiple tech to completely change the ships abilities, while the Constitution was what it was and could only serve a specific purpose. Refitted during TNG era, it could hold it's own against a galaxy class. We see from the Dominion and Klingon fleets, that destroyer class vessels were very useful and just having large battleships was not always ideal. During Dominion war it was shown how galaxy class ships would be supported by Miranda Class, having quick maneuverable vessels supporting your powerful ships. Besides that, they were easier to build then galaxy, and much of the work starships did in federation was non-military so the multi-purpose Miranda class was once again superior from an economy point of view. I just think people dont like Miranda because it is not the Enterprise, if it does not have the same design as the iconic ship then it is "bad". If this was star wars I would understand, but coming from star trek fans, such a shallow and non-technical view is sad.

I don't hate the vessel. I actually love it. But, seeing how big the vertical warp core is on the Enterprise, I think we have a scaling issue. This wouldn't be the first time a ship on Star Trek has had a scaling issue.

miranda is the class apon-which they are most ....Reliant

The red shirt ship that just won’t die off just keeps coming back Honestly a work horse class that just works Great vid and love to see the crazy 32nd century of this class

Jesus, I'm early enough there aren't any comments. Can't wait to see how this episode turns out! Thoughts: Holy hell, this was brilliant. The very idea that the Miranda class is why we had the Constitution Refit style (my favorite), lore wise, really sounds awesome to me. I might not really like the Miranda class (mostly out of Bias for the Connie Refit), but it definitely earned more respect from me.

Captain of those Miranda's in the dominion war, I quit .

Could the longevity of the Miranda class (and others, like the Excelsior) be a symptom of Federation arrogance? That same arrogance has manifested itself in the Galaxy class and the idea of having families aboard starships.

1:45 well pointed out I guess some people just don’t realise that warp cores might not be quite as tall as those in other ships? Lol

Don't you already have your own formidable vertical warp core?

Question I’ve always had about the Miranda class is where is the deflector?

Did the Miranda not require a deflector dish?

In the episode "Court Martial" which takes place in 2267 there is a sign that list various ship registries and one of them looks like NCC-1864. Looking at the screen shot on Memory Alpha, maybe that's 1864, maybe 1884, 1664, or 1684.

Weren’t there Miranda classes in service during the Dominion War?

I like to think Larry Marvick was Project Manager during a sane moment. She was a tactically superior starship. Built for battle. From a forward perspective, she presented the least possible cross section to an opponent, a design successfully used for decades by the Klingons and the Romulans.

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She's a beau I'll take 50 of them.

If you look at the USS Reliant variant of the Miranda class, its armed to the teeth!!! I think at the time of its commissioning, it was probably one if not the most powerful starship classes in starfleet service.

No mention of the (very similar) Soyuz Class?

Nice video, and a good story too. I like the idea of the Enterprise refit as being a propaganda move by Starfleet, but in my "head" canon, the refit came first (with Scotty leading the design team) and with the Enterprise's refit success, the Miranda was born from using Scotty's new design ideas. I read Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise a long long time ago and it stayed with me. :-)

You know I seem to remember a deck by deck volume comparison between the miranda an a connie, and the miranda actually hade more internal volume. As for the warp core, I believe the actual name is the linear warp core.