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Yes for 'Spaiky Booshes' merch!!!!! Come on folks 1000 likes pls!!! Community design project! Let's go! Edit: WOHOO!!! 1k likes reached! Thanks everyone! Can't wait to see what they come up with :D

Wouldn't making a second pizza oven be better because you'll have a new one and still would be able to use the old while you make the new. Then you can repair the old one without having no pizza for 3 weeks. And then you would be able to do pizza twice as fast now that you have so many ppl.

I'll buy a "Spaiky Bushes" tee-shirt. Would be cool if it uses one of the colors as the pig trailer's exterior.

Why not get a Tractor with a digger attachment. There are ranges where you can switch out various attachments, according to your needs, thereby lessening the need for more heavy equipment and using what you have more efficiently, less maintenance and fewer parking requirements. Eg: A tractor with a digger, forklift and a woodchipper could be just what you need.

I would like to sign the petition for spikey bushes merch!

I will miss Kévin and Jaime, and many others from last season, such is life... hope the best for all of you. Happy 4th season ❤

My suggestion is to not aim for "good enough". For this year to go smoothly, you should expand to 4-5 toilets and showers. Build a second and much larger oven instead of rebuilding the existing oven. Focus on expanding and making long term, robust expansions.

Regarding Rita's comments: sounds like camp is trying to treat people equitably vs equally. Equally is everyone gets the same. Equitably means everyone gets what they need. People are different. Of course they will need different things! This is a marathon, not a race. Worth a try to see if separate spaces helps. Maybe some folks need that, maybe others don't. Maybe even some new folks need separation for energy. Interested to see what works for your dynamic

Perhaps ex military tents could be used, heavy duty, sometimes expandable, designed to be put up and pulled down repeatedly. Wooden duckboard flooring made from pallets. Also, wooden camping platforms with used corrugated iron roofing, tents can be placed on these.

the 35 people crowd going to be the first and core challenge for the kamp this season, I wish you folks all the best to overcome it. Best of luck!

Years of camping and scouting with canvas box tents has shown. A simply mix equal parts vinegar and water, and apply the solution to the mouldy areas of your tent. Wash them with a large broom and leave in the sun to dry. This should remove the stain as well.

Are there any sociologists or therapists interested in joining the community? Early on it would be a good idea to engage with them to see if the model you are building has been tried before and what can be learned from the past. I love that you are being honest about the differences between "permanent" and "visiting" members of the community. It's a bit like the social dynamic between hotel guests and staff/owners. It will be interesting to see how this develops this season. As always, thank you for sharing the challenges.

To fix the issue with waterproofing the cotton, you could soak it in a mixture of wax and mineral oil. This will make any fabric repell water extreamly well. You can adjust the mixture to your liking. A high percentage of wax makes the fabric stiff so you can use it like ceran wrap. Too much Oil and the fabric will feel oily. Espicial in summer. Since portugal is quite hot i would go with a rather high wax content but you can do small scale sample to figure out what works in that climate. Check out NightHawks Video on fabric tarps for more information.

The social aspect about living in a community is really interesting! For the last 2 years, you haven't tackled that subject that much, I hope that you'll continue to share your thoughts and challenges on that.

Why not get a tractor with a shovel or backhoe attachment. Tractors are so much more versatile than a single purpose digger. Or consider a skid steer that also takes attachments.

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” That’s hard to live up to but excellent advice.

Have considerd, to make coal out of the mimosa chips? You´ll get heat and energy of the process over the winter and you can use the coal to "store" the poop and the soil mixed with this is really nutricious and also can store water better, to keep the forest or a field moist and nutrious? And of course you store CO² in the Ground.

You can hook the dehumidifier to a drainer and it will always be working without he need for the deposit.

Spikey Bushes merch?! Yes, please!

You will need 5 toilets and 5 showers. The creek needs to be tapped for water uses not related to drinking. So an area of land will be needed that human waste can be collected and buried with different layers of dirt and compost. That land should be good crops after 3 years. The land needs to be thought out for animals as well. You have an issue with grass control, a natural way to control will be some Kune Kune pigs. Look them up great for grass control. Expand the pond area you have for water, your going to need to start growing your own food to save on cost.

Re: digger vs tractor. I would have recommended a tractor with a loader, but that is partly because that is what I have. With either, it will almost certainly be used one (properly maintained, these can last for years). A diesel engine, which will need to be maintained. That means a service area of some sort and probably tools, though you likely have most. You'll want a paved area (covered too) to work on it. Addressing the issues of runoff, petroleum products, solvents, etc will be a challenge, so researching the matter will be important. Any machine, new or used, should have a "roll bar" and seatbelt... these machines are a bit top heavy anyway and can (will) roll over on the right terrain (and you have the right terrain). Make sure Kampers use the seatbelt. Bon chance!

The floor of the tent can be repaired quickly and cheaply using bicycle repair kits

I'd like to know more about the legal aspect and ownership of the land. Who does it belong to legally? Who is responsible in case of an accident? Worst case scenario, could all the work be ruined by one person who decide to kick everyone out?

An option for the pizza oven is to make a NEW oven, big enough for bread (and pizza) and then decommision the pizza oven when the bread oven is working. And maybe rework the pizza oven with less time pressure.

You really should make a second pizza oven and make sure to use fire bricks that don't expand and contract so much. This should keep the new one from cracking.

Mostly, I made the experience in Thailand, Mexiko etc., that permanent tents have a permanent roof to protect the material against rain und sun. Otherwise the tents will not last very long.

I'm not an expert at organizing such events, but I can imagine that managing 35 people in a community is quite a challenge. What I do understand is that there's a crucial difference between "equal" and "the same". I've noticed that people often interpret "equal" in a way that's practically unimaginable. If we interpret "equal" as meaning 'of equal value' rather than simply synonymous with the word "same", people might grasp a clearer understanding of what true equality entails. Make this part of the communication between everyone there!

Get a tractor with attachments, a good digger is very expensive and a cheap digger will be more expensive, repairs are more specialized, and very expensive on diggers,I work on them in South Africa, hiring a machine and operator when you need one will be cheaper in the long run.

5:16 some people are more equal than others - Animal Farm

All seems to be going well! A suggestion for you for future: save up any funny outtakes and put them at the end of the 8 videos?

For mold problems, take a look at Virkon-S. It's a biodegradeable, odorless and water based barn disinfectant & antimycotic. A tip for painting and protecting wooden exteriors is Falu Red. Used for centuries in the Nordics. Made from water, rye flour, linseed oil and oxides from iron, copper and zinc. And finally, when it comes to tents: military surplus tents are extremely durable, houses 10-15 people comfortably, and often comes with a center wood stove. Also, check out the Mongolian yurt, the classic housing construction of the nomads.

Thanks for sharing about the challenges of the community dynamic! Our community in Canada will look forward to your lessons!

Rita's garden has exploded! Things grow so fast in Portugal!

I am here for the "Spaiky Booshes" t-shirt!! Hilarious that on my trail runs whenever I see them now that is all I hear haha.

Just start growing your own food. YOU HAVE PLENTY OF HANDS!

vinegar tends to work well against mold. if the tents are canvas a dilute solution of vinegar, and some scrubbing, when it's possible for the tent to dry out should help with the mold. It may also be beneficial to put the tents on platforms, or build camp pads for them. slightly raised. maybe... sandy/well draining soil (overtop a bed of very well draining gravel) to ensure the tents are not standing in water. might also help somewhat with bugs/mice. if the tents are on camp pads.... vs raw earth.

For the oven, perhaps a good way of fixing it would be to remove the door as it is and insert a layer of insulated ceramic wool between the metal frame and the clay. That way you have a way of relieving the pressure on the oven as the metal expands and shrinks and you can reuse it without tearing it to pieces. It's a matter of giving room to the materials to do their thing at their respective pace when they heat up and cool down.

I love how you gather data about EVERYTHING! Totally understand how the old guard would want to try a quieter separate area of living. Will be very interesting to see how that works this year!

Don't do quickfixes. Choose the fix that is better for the long run one. So rebuilding the pizza oven is the better approach. And three weeks no pizza? I'm sure you can survive that ;)

I will buy Project Kamp merchandise

For the pizza oven, I suggest to search and to build a new definitive one and to still use the old one waiting for the new one.

When you showed the water from the dehumidifier, i remembered earthship's system of colecting and reusing rain water. I've been accompanying your project since the beginning and I actually don't remember if you have a system for that. But if you don't i leave this suggestion: earthships.

For your oven, you must do it the Portuguese way, that is to say simply with a metal plate with a handle which serves to keep it upright in support, you will no longer have any problems with the expansion of the metal since it will not be not integrated into the masonry!

Very interesting episode. Should be a busy Season , looking forward to seeing how the projects get completed. I always like the land clearing the evasive trees, exposing Native trees, exposing new rock walls and buildings. I would like to stay in winter, a slower pace, no hot weather, and different challenges. Be Blessed you all, i see 1 million subs very soon.!! 👍👍😁😁😁From Idaho U.S.A., peace.

I usually don't like Q&A RU-vid videos but you guys are so genuine and fun to watch I really enjoyed watching this one!

Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others

Thank you for answering my question. I am a bit honoured in a weird way. And I have to say that it made for a very nice and deep part of this '8-video (if I may say so). I sincerely hope you all find/finish what you came for. You are heroes of a very special kind already. From afar I just love this place as well. Love, hugs and cheers*

If you get a tractor you'll definitely want something with a loader. Even better would be one that has a backhoe attachment meaning you can tackle small to medium digging projects and be able to take the backhoe off to use other implements or tow. If you do get a tractor i would suggest making a simple platform that hooks to the three point linkage so you can have the tractor carry stuff for projects.

A quick health and safety search gave the same info as my gut feeling. 2 toilets is not enough for a "safe" environment "One toilet and one washbasin for 1-5 people. Two toilets and two washbasins for between 6-25 people. Three toilets and three washbasins for 26-50 people. Four toilets and four washbasins for 51-75 people."

I was a scout for ten years and i was sleeping in tent like yours. the most important things about those tents is that you cannot fold them if they are humid maybe the mold came from there. Also you need to "aérer" the tent like a room. Don't know il those informations can help. Maybe you know these tips aleready... But anyway your's videos and your project is just pure joy for me !!! Thanks a lot

this was a great episode, I always love to see the persons behind the projects. I could take more interviews

about the pizza oven, i've built one rocket stove pizza oven here at our land. it's much less wood to heat it up, and it's great for baking after 1 hour, compared with a traditional pizza oven that can take up to 3 hours. Probably you could use the mimosas to do heat it up! So, more sustainable in the long run, less pollution, etc. Also, if you make the whole structure with cob, it's easy to patch and fix for the next years. good thing that all that metal you could be able to reuse it in other projects. So, it's more a time consuming project that you can build with 4, 5 people in a week, for sure! If you need any help with designing let me know.

Canvas tents need maintenance just like a house. We used to camp for 6 weeks at a time in old army tents. My dad, before putting it away in a dark, dry, ventilated place, he spot cleaned it with baking soda based mix. Then, reproofed the whole fabric with some waxy stuff that worked really well. There are many great options that are fully natural. Wonder if bees wax would work, it would stop the tent going mouldy. That's also good for your leather boots and can make wax wrappers to preserve fresh produce for longer if not eaten or processed immediately. Love your videos, guys! I learn so much and get ideas off your ideas after every episode! Thank you!

adore this channel, i know it aint much but i make sure my adblockers are off for channels like these who use ad revenue to fund cool projects.

Good luck with all those 35 people

On the lack of cohesion between the short term and long term people: I wonder what leadership looks like around this project. I've noticed this is something that never gets explicitly talked about in Project Kamp's videos. It's the leader (or leaders') job to maintain the values, goals, standards, and the overall tone of the whole group. There can be some separation between groups (long term/short term) but I think there needs to be frequent opportunities for everyone to come together and be reminded of the shared feeling and purpose that brought everyone to the project in the first place- and there has to be someone who actively makes this happen.

I will buy Spikee Booshes merch. It puts a smile on my face every time I hear Dave talk about the booshes...I thought I was the only one, lol.

Everything is in bloom, so pretty. Very informative. Dave, great job.

Hi Project Kamp!! It's amazing to have the opportunity to follow your channel and all the progress you are making on your land. I know you have just had your Q&A video, but maybe you could answer my question in the next one. Since Project Kamp is all about finding sustainable green ways of treating communities and the environment... have you considered a side project like "Project Hemp" ?? As you likely know, hemp is the plant with a thousand uses, used by humans for millennia. From building materials (hempcrete, isolation - so you could cultivate your own non toxic, fire resistant , mold resistant building materials with very interesting properties ), to a good source of proteins & fibres for a well balanced diet, not even mentioning the benefits for the environment (hemp is a front liner in CO 2 sequestration comparable with the silvicol models; fixing and repairing the soil; helping pollinators exectly when they need it most). And the beauty of it all... it's all evidence based. Might be something to consider for the next season?! Wishing you all the best! 🌱💚🌱

OBSERVATION use all the mimosas to build shelters or open shelters with roofs to keep the digger and autos and other equipment underneath

nice update format & I loved seeing all the new & old faces chiming in! 👉I second the motion of adding a second clay oven built to the left of the existing one. This would come in handy with the increased occupancy & it should be easy enough to clear space & extend the roof to accommodate it. ☝this way, you can create a new updated version of your oven, this time with an exhaust chimney (improves circulation + heat control) & outer shell insulation (trap heat inside the oven + increase efficiency)... then once built & running, the old oven can be repaired or replaced. 🤓you could use your old damaged clay roof tiles from the ruins to line the inner walls of the dome structure to add more thermal mass & structure... as well as use cutoffs/excess cork panels for the insulating outer layer with a mixture of clay & hay to make an outer skin to cover the cork. ☝whatever you decide, definitely looking forward to your oven upgrade! 🤔I'm also curious about how well the aluminium can roof held up over the winter... it wasn't covered during this update+challenges video but I felt it was a great use of something a lot of folks have lying around.

It sounds like you've got a very busy season again, Project Kamp! I'm sorry that this is a long comment, but please bear with me. Thanks! I have to agree with some of the other comments advising you to build a second oven, using ceramic fire bricks and fire insulation, all of which will make it even better than the first one. You could then fix your current one to make it more like the second, especially as you now know what potential pitfalls to look out for and avoid. It may be a good idea to make the second oven larger or to have some kind of 'divider' so that you can use whatever size you want. If the tent fabrics are too rotten, use the type of canvas used in sailing, as that can withstand more moisture and is extremely hardy. Maybe adding more waterproofing sprays might help to preserve them even more, but I'm not an expert, so please check with a sailor or chandler. It might also be worth looking at making some kind of 'roof' or shelter to go over them if the problem keeps happening. You could also think about building some yurts, probably out of canvas or tent material at first, but then out of more durable materials in the longer term. Lol, you could even think about tree houses, if you have enough large trees! 😂 I think the hydroelectric station at the dam/waterfall is a great idea, as it would hopefully give you much more - reliable all year round - electricity, providing your neighbour is happy for you to do so. Maybe he could help set it up (and possibly give a little financial aid for it?), and you could share the power? This obviously depends on the logistics and cost. Adding more toilets and showers is a very good idea, but maybe you could think about adding more than one of each. It makes sense when you think about how many people will be in Kamp over not only this year but for years to come. It will also save you having to build more each year! I hope you don't mind me saying that I think it would be better if you were to add compacted soil (and possibly some solid materials such as stones, old cement/rubble not needed elsewhere, etc) into your swales and berms, so that even more water/moisture can be kept from running straight down the hills. It would also be wise to plant anything that will grow in those conditions, even if they take a while to establish. They'll hold together all the soil, etc, and reduce and/or stop water runoff. As you know, this will help to keep the ground more moist, improving your fire resistance and also providing you with more areas where you can plant more foods. I really like the idea of you being able to buy extra land and that you would try to make an improved fire break with it! That's one of the best ideas you've had, considering how fire prone your area is. Good luck with getting enough funding for it! Actually, are there any grants you could access to help with this? I'm sure that the local (and national) government bodies would be happy for people to make their areas as fireproof as possible! I know it's a pain, but can you make the swamp bigger and/or deeper? That would help with watering any plants you might grow. As for the algae problem, what about several solar powered fountains, the type that are generally used for garden ponds? I think you would have to clear most, or all, of what's on the surface first, though. I'm sure you know how they work, but for people reading this who might not, the constant movement and splashing of the water helps to aerate it, keeping it cleaner for longer. You'd probably still have to clear and clean it from time to time, but if it can work on a small (having one for a garden pond) scale, it should work on a larger scale (several - ok, trial and error will be needed here, or someone who's good at maths and can figure out how many would be needed according to how big the swamp is, and its capacity). Talking of water, would your neighbour be ok with you building a small trench to divert a reasonable amount of water from the stream below the dam? Or would they be willing to sell that land to you? You could offer them the use of the dam (and obviously if they draw water from it) for their lifetimes, with negotiations for anyone taking over their farm once they aren't there anymore. Sounds ghoulish, I know, but you're building for your future, so... Oh yes, I just thought about whether there's anywhere else on your land where more water catchment systems can be built. Again, it's an awful lot of work, but if you've got a digger, the workload will be reduced considerably. Speaking of whether to get a digger or a tractor, i agree with the people who say that it would be better to get a tractor that can have different types of machinery attached, depending on what needs doing. Well, this has been an EPIC comment, so I'd better sign off now! I hope it hasn't been TOO boring to read! 😂 I have no idea whether anything I've said is worth you trying, but, if you've got this far, thank you for sticking with it. All the very best for the season! Fi, UK

Loved this video, great Q&A. it’s nice to get to know the camp mates better. Looking forward to this season.

This is so impressive And I love how cleverly everything is done and how all of the questions and clips are put together in this video

I found you channel last week love what you're doing ❤

Maybe limit to max 25 people for next year? Splitting the community into an ingroup living on the middle land and an outgroup living at basekamp seems like a fast way to create resentment

Always fun watching the new videos and getting to know the new people! And seeing the familiar faces return! Keep up the great work.

So fun to see a bit of the personalities of the people at Kamp!

For the moldy tents, A few options. Vinegar 1 to 3 with water. Spray then let dry. Sunshine (over time)! I once heard you could put it airtight in a bag, throw it in a freezer, then use a brush to get rid of the mold spores after a few days but that sounds like a lot of work. Try to keep the tents dry, especially before you store them.

I'm creating my own camp soon and you floks are helping sooooo much ! Thank you for sharing all of your learning experiences !

I love ALL Project Kamp videos!

soooooo glad ya'll are back for a new season!

extremely relieved and grateful to hear the take on rat-catching cats. even one stray cat can do a lot of ecological damage. dropping mice off at least 2 miles from basekamp would be ideal, but I think controlling them would be very tough since it's difficult to fully seal all of the buildings, and there are plenty of little homes for them to make use of. Not as easy as a more suburban environment. :)

So interesting to hear a little about the people and personalities and community challenges, sounds like you have good ideas and hopefully they work well!

Very relatable the whole story of community living and long term/ short term residents. After 3 years you guys have already become the grumpy old ecovillagers LoL. You're gonna be fine. Take care.

You guys have helped me alot in terms of ideas for when i start working on my land

So fun to watch you do this. We're creating a permaculture forest on land we bought in 2017 and have faced similar challenges, though we have to hire help when we need it.

I think with this many people now and with the amount of land you have you should start to begin developing a vegetable garden large enough to supply the community with fresh vegetables and fruit. you have many people to feed and with the sustainability project you bare developing this would be the time to save money on a grocery bill and develop the land to produce for your community.

Best of luck Project Kamp! ❤

Que grande el Argentino! Saludos desde Buenos Aires! Los sigo desde el primer dia! Son una referencnia de como si nos juntamos podemos hacer un gran cambio en nuestra forma de vivir.

I remember how the fusion festival is in the beginning till it’s devolved to a commercial event.

Two things I can see being added to the Kamp: 1 - A bike shop, to keep and maintain community bicycles, bartering repairs for goods and services with neighbors. 2 - An open source hub, for Arduino, and raspberry pi projects. It seems like there's a few projects that can benefit.

For the moldy tents try “cillit bang bolor e sujidade” they sell it at Continente and Pingo Doce it is not meant for cleaning tents but it really works like magic. We spent lots of time trying natural cleaners like baking soda and vinegar. We also tried just bleach as well as soap. The only thing we found that actually worked was to use this product, leave it for 10 minutes and then wash it off with water. I hope this helps so that you do not waste as much time and effort as we did.

White vinegar is good for removing mold. I use it on a shower curtain I have that nothing else, including bleach, works on. Apply the vinegar and scrub with a bristle brush. Then wash it to remove vinegar smell.

The land looks beautiful. The people, too!

Thanks for uploading guys ☺️

Am new to this project but am already excited to see how everything goes. I have not seen the previous seasons but I did watch the recap of season 3 and that got me excited..

hey Javi thank you for answering my question.

For the pizza oven, try putting pieces of cardboard between the metal/cast iron parts and the bricks/mortar. This will allow contraction and expansion to take place without creating cracks over time to the mortar. Saw this technique recently and it sounds like a good idea.

Glad to see yous back consistently 👌 Spray tents with fabsil to protect when clean or new

Thanks for the answer, it was hilarious watching everyones reaction on the subject 😂 have a good time Kampers

Baking soda mixed dry w/cornflour solves the mice problem. Beeswax to re-condition canvas tents. Soapstone insert for pizza oven,and roman (pumice) cement. Autographed photos for new merch.

If you're gonna rebuild the pizza oven, before you put clay on the metal, put a piece of cardboard in-between, that will over time burn away and leave space for the metal to expand without cracking the clay :)

I really enjoy watching your videos and look forward to each episode. I’m live in the southwest of the United States. Recently retired and looking forward to moving from California to somewhere in the south and would love to live off grid. Love your challenge solving skills. I enjoy learning new languages also. So it’s fun to watch the different nationalities interact. Thank you for your efforts.

I'm so excited to see this season's progress!

Project Kamp has now created a class system. The leader camp. The worker camp. Like watching Animal Farm experiment.

For the cotton tents: waxing them can be a waterproofing solution. Ideally a good wax like the type Fjall Raven sells, or something with similar components. Iron them afterwards to let the wax seep into the fabric. Should be annual or bi-annual. The mould could be addressed by scrubbing them with a mould cleaner (HG), but I understand if you don't want harsh chemicals in your environment. You could contact the manufacturers for advice - they look like De Waard tenten, which should last decades. If you build up mould, that might indicate a larger problem that they are trapping moisture and not drying. Small changes such as ventilating the tents during the day, or setting them up in an area away from water and that gets sun during the day can prevent the mould from coming back. Hope you find something that works for you!

Cracks in your oven. Clay clay, get some kaowool smooge it up in some clay, sodium silicate and water poke it into a wet out crack and smooth out the surface poke vent holes 2-3 cm deep. Steel clay gaps poke kaowool into gap, cap with clay. A similarly cracks in the floor, pack kaowool and seal with clays. If you have a pottery store in your region a sodium silicate mortar could be used.

@8:30 clean the mold in tent with a vinegar/bicarbonate solution let it dry up good and normally the mold is gone… We used to do it in the scouts before we went on camp, works pretty good! Good luck😅

Hi guys, l really enjoy watching your progress and living vicariously through your videos. However, you REALLY need to reconsider your composting system. From the looks of it you have placed it in between two wooded areas (Mimosas?) on soil and wooden pallets - this poses two issues. If it rains you will have a lot of seapage in one concentrated area which might damage the soil. And If not turned over regularly, compost can become extremeley hot due to the bacteria and can become a fire hazard in itself, especially if you only use hay and saw dust as additives. A metal encasement or concrete area would be recommended as it´s easier to turn over the compost and contain any potential fire hazards plus it helps keep the compost/manure wet. That said, keep on keeping on!😎