10F Punishers Ranked WORST to BEST | Data Comparison | TEKKEN 8 

Jim, Lili and NSS Yoshi keeping their i10 wallsplat. Meanwhile, Raven after we've witnessed the results of his training: 💀

Kazuya not getting Hei's 112 wallsplat but getting his stupid CD44 Kick

All of zafina’s moves out of tarantula are at least i18, so really you’re only +5 at best after being +22 which was a necessary change in the last patch

Low parry tier list

i think you forgot about hwoarang's 2f3, which has terrible range but its got it's uses and does more damage then the 12 string

Lee has easily the best i10 punish in the game. He should be in "OP" tier imo.

Another excellent lesson from Mishima complex

Why lock the data behind discord? No Google doc or PDF?

I appreciate the effort you put into these, acknowledging that some people will just skip to the list lol. Great vid

You're putting up top content all the time, keep it up!

Another quality vid from a good content creator! Here's another idea for this kind of content: Best heat engager or best heat smash. Keep it up!

Very informative as always! Thank you so much. Btw, what's the bgm? It reminds me of walkyrie profile...

Lili's 2,4 has a very bad range tho... Jin's 2,4 is definitely better than Lili's

First Xenoblade, now some Final Fantasy 7 music? You gotta drop that 🔥 music playlist.

Loved the vid

most damage (no heat) #1 is yoshi because after NSS 1,1 dash f+1+2 is guaranteed and just before the wall he can get d222

Lars’ basically guarantees a mixup on hit, if they duck it’s a launch with orbital

Some slight remarks - Leo players often go for 1,2 instead of 1,4 when they're not sure if they can punish in time, 1,2 doing even less damage - Hwoarang can go for 2,f4 instead of 1,2,(3 or 4) for a bit more damage

Love it

What about Hwoarang's 2,F3?

You can choose to not go into crouch dash when using 2,4 on Raven by holding back.

I like how going into the new game Asuka's 10f punish improved from a jab to... jab and a wacky low kick lmao. Just keep jabbing at this point, +8 is so much more to work with than few more points of damage and return to neutral.

didnt see hwo 2 f3 which does 24 damage and leaves him at a slight advantage other than that great vid

Hell yeah

If you count heat (Jack/Feng) then wouldn't Lars have an A+ i10 punish ? The mixup is guaranteed since he's +8 it's between a 35 damage low and a 70+ damage launcher and the opponent can only guess even if they guess correctly Lars don't die from both option the low is only -12 while the mid launcher is safe

Lest goo 🔥

It's hilairous that asuka's used to be even worse LMAO (every follow-up used to not be guaranteed). Edit: her CH 1,2,4 used to be strong, but not as much in this one

I feel like Nina’s 1,2 is insane as despite its low damage, it opens her up to run her side step 1 shenanigans and snowball into so much damage.

2:19 Jin's 10f punisher also wall-splats, you missed that (which is odd considering you counted wall-crush which is weaker than wall-splat). I think Jun's uf1 also wall-splats, as well as Azucena's 1,2, and Yoshi's 1,1 in NSS (or in heat).

Azucena has one more i10 punish 2,1 20 dmg +6 which is maybe not the best, but still an option depending on what you want (1,1 stance, 1,2 dmg + wall splat, 2,1 + frames without stance)

Yay!!! 🥰

Is there a way to calculate the best sidewalk?

2:35 yoshi NSS. I did not know his sword came out with the 1, 1 command

I think xiaoyu could be a tier above solely for the ability to transition into HYP stance and being +9, its specially more dangerous if she's in heat coz she has the best option in HYP when she's in heat.

Is there something i'm missing about Kazuya's 112? Like i know it's good but i don't know by what metric it's top 4 in the game, when top 1 is Jack 8's heat smash lol

Paul on Top once again 💪🦅

Azu 1,2 deserves a spot higher I think. You can go into back turned mix ups with plus 8 and it wall splats for a full combo

Doesn't law have a 10f heat engager of his 111?

Lili's frame advantage was +24 though while Zafina's was +22?

As an asuka main her 10F Punish Feels like starting up a Car in the Cold, JUST THROW THE DAMN KICK 🦵, she be taking forever to throw the kick and most of the time it gets parried

TIL jack has a i10 heat smash. Has anyone done a list of all the heat smash? Thats nuts. Lmao

A video like this for everyone's while standing punishment would be interesting too

They still did not fix 112 wiffing on hit even after mentioning it in patch notes

Bro make the same idea with tier list maker e longer video

Is Devil Jin 124 in the equation or is it just considered useless

I think eddy has a very good 10 punish. He can end it either in handstand or relax which will force a 50/50. Even though I could do a more damaging punish (other than a launcher), I prefer his 10 punish due to the 50/50.

3:39 yoshi good damage by nss with no heat.

You missed hwoarang 2,f3 which does 23 damage and leaves him at plus 9 albeit with a lot of pushback

1:26 1,1 on yoshi.👍🏾

Honestly, in many situations, NSS Flash is better to go for, even if you have to dash up for it. 8 frame punish that full launches.

Jun gets good situation after uf1 only against the wall. Otherwise it knocks your opponent too far away

i know you specifically said you're not factoring range into this equation but raven's i10 range/hitbox is pretty much broken and just fails to connect sometimes lol

1:59 if reina is +14 here, does she get a free d/f+1, 1+2?

someday... someday... i ll get an actually i10 punish xD (Asuka main)

heat engager tier list

As long as feng is still A list, I'm ok with that 😁

Disagree about Law and Xiaoyu. Law has average damage but can go into dss into his infinite pressure. Xiaoyu has shit damage but she can go into two stances by choice or stace in a neutral stance. Although the frame advantage isn't great but it's above average. So her best ch launcher is uninterruptable. Ans also, her jabs has a follow-up launcher for a nice damage - so no one will ever try to challenge it and almost any move can be done.

Why can’t my opponent sidestep if i am +5?

kazooyers may have a ton of hit box issues and bugs but asuka is still actual poo at everything so it seems. i seem to hear less complaints about her which is nice. asuka mains are goated imo lol i always enjoy your data analytics and your videos in general!!

On a counter hit the bears are probably the best bet yeah otherwise definitely Lee

So Asuka just didn't learn Kazama's style that well? I previously assumed that Jun's i10 punish was similarly bad.

I always told my friends that Yoshimitsus 1,1 is just plain broken. If in NSS it not only does more dmg but ALSO HEALS YOSHI. This is some nonsense and it literally makes Yoshi one of the most effective characters when not knowing the match up, because 1,1 always pays off in NSS / Heat.

Jack is #1 * puts him in C tier 😆

Lilis 24 punish unreliable due to range

Asuka players really have to play the game with Dragon Ball-esque training weights

I think what would have also been interesting to take into account is the frame disadvantage on block if you "miss" the punish and execute it too late. Yes some characters have great 10f punishers but if they miss it they might take the risk of being -12 (Black Fist combo) or even launch punishable. That can clearly deter some players from actually using them or making them hesitant to use them and arguably make them miss the punish even more. It seems that even at very high level of play considering Phidx's various analyses of gameplay that sometimes tournament players don't always "risk the punish".

Im surprised dragunov is C tier

My character is actual poo.

Buff hwoarang

The explanations be ruining the video lol

Does anyone have the problem of not finding anyone fun to play?? Ive tried almost all and they are all just mehh

Would you say Lee's acid rain is number 1 then if you have perfect execution? I can do acid rain like 95% of the time. I find i basically delete opponents hp if they keep using unsafe moves. I feel like he should be in OP tier