#10MinuteTalk 

10 min talk idea: 35 Remington. I've taught several family members and friends to shoot it in a 336 marlin I'm rebuilding (cuz the walnut broke after 65 years). It's a family deer rifle passed down to me - although I've only shot 3 deer with it, neither me nor my uncle before me has ever tracked a deer as all have dropped in place (though I'm pretty sure our total number of deer taken is less than half a dozen, all shots under 50 yards here in Missouri :P). Hornady's new LeverEvolution powder and ftx bullets have given new life to factory 200 grain loads, but handloads with 357 hornady ftx bullets, speer hotcor, or hammer homogeneous copper bullets can add 200 to 500 fps atop existing factory offerings from federal, Remington. I'd love to hear your 10 min talk so myself and others can hear of this more obscure cartridge. From it's 1905 chambering in Remington's Model 8 with its 20 rd box magazine used by police to chase (and arguably eliminate) Bonnie and Clyde, to it's use by Alaskan Judge George Fulta who initially used the mild 35 Remington as his taker of brown bears, himself taking over 200 bruins in his lifetime, it has quite a tale of interesting use. When certain other wonderful hunting shows cover the 35 Remington, they unfortunately cannot do it justice as they are sponsored by federal and it would seem they cannot mention hornady's wonderful developments that show everyone modern 35 rem loads are often wider, heavier, and or faster than it's traditional 30 caliber lever gun counterpart :P (nothing wrong with federal, I give them my money too. Just sad my beloved 35 rem is jilted in sponsored representation/comparisons.)

👍 Thank You for Honoring My Request to Update Us on the B.C.! 🥳 Once you are finished, I would love to see you do a podcast on what you learn and what mistakes you made - just in case I decided to move forward with my own designs! 🤔

I use a cva single shot as a sturdy platform to develop 350 legend subsonic loadings. The first couple attempts will have you nervous, I reached around a big tree with my left hand lmao

Very excited to see we are back on track with the Bc...... Can't wait to see your progress....

Do a 10 minute talk on the 300 Savage, the most average cartridge around

A drilling set with double 12g and a 6.5 BC! I would go anywhere in the world and not feel under gunned for what I will harvest! Great show as usual! Vortex podcasts and products are the best!

I saw another commenter bring up 338 federal. What a cool sub 300 yard cartridge! And another precocious son of 308

Sounds like 6.5 BC is going to be a winner. Looking forward to the next update. Thanks.

I'd love to see an episode on 338 Federal, 8.6 Creedmoor and other AR10 "alternative" cartridges. Honestly a whole episode around AR10 style DMR stuff would be interesting to me.

Thanks for the update on the BC. Always fun to here cartridge talks! I’m still waiting to here Ryals talk on the 7 rem mag, I know he’s made comments on it before and doesn’t seem to like it. Another 10 minute talk idea I think would be fun is rifle actions and platforms. Model 70, Remington 700, tikka, Mauser etc: Thanks always fun to get Ryan’s opinion on things.

Too bad we aren’t neighbors you could come over and borrow a cup of 7828sc.

It’s about time!

Love the BC project. Can't wait for future updates.

Looking forward to more .5 BC progress. Good luck.

Thanks for the update

A couple of my favorite wildcats are of the big, fat straight-wall variety. Both .40/10mm, one a blown out 6.8/224 (6.8 basic brass available at star line) and the other a blown out 6.5 grendel/7.62x39 (no neck, but slightly tapered). Makes great heavy subs, supers are 200gr @2000+, and works well in an AR or AK platform

thanks for the update, keep them coming👍🏻

Can't wait to see more ! Never reloaded but this is just so darn interesting

Great update. Keep it up fellas.

Awesome. Wish ya’s luck. Just gonna say it, as soon as someone starts using it in the field people will likely call it 6.5 Vortex.

Looks like a fun project guys.

Finally! Been looking forward to an update!

Guys wishing you all the best in this project, I have no doubt it will do it’s intended job and bring home the bacon 🥓

T3X For the win! Still waiting for my 7saum build to get done in T3x!

So many cartridges, so little time! (and money!)

Very informative, smart to dive into cartridge design before dipping your feet into annealing. At any moment during these podcasts I’m prepared for all three vortex employee’s to start chanting their sorority while hammering Jell-O shots.

Awesome I was wondering whatever happened to the Batch Catch 🤣 JIMMMMMAH

I get your final pick. Makes sense. 7mm-08 continues to be my favorite rifle caliber followed by the 284 win. In a custom standard length fast twist, the 284 would that much better. Expensive though. But 7mm -08 does everything I want for coyotes up to elk. Within 400 yards.

Can’t wait to see the carbon fibre BC at full speed!!!

Really like the show always super interesting Wildcat stuff I wish you great success.. My dream cartridge is 6.5 x55 Swede with the Ackley shoulder on a k98 action

Once 6.5 BC becomes available mainstream, bullet manufacturers hopefully will make projectiles capable of handling 3000 fps + impacts in the 150-165 gr weights. My .264 WM may be on it's way out now because of the 6.5 BC but for 500 yrd. performance I'm still satisfied as a hunter.

It would be interesting to see the BC compared to similar loadings

I definitely want to get a 6.5 BC, sounds like a beast of a cartridge

I have the Ruger #1 in 375 ruger,....1" groups with hornady 300grainDGX factory loads!

I just took a new savage 100 precision elite in.. 338 lapua and turned it into a 337-378 all cause of availability of actions and components not being available. Some call me crazy but when you want what you want you do crazy things!!!!!

King David's actual sling..... chambered in 6.5. Now that would be interesting.

Oh yeah, B*tchcat time.

I don't know if you guys are or aren't already, but if you aren't you should absolutely be using Gordon's Reloading tool software. Otherwise you're basically shooting in the dark with no simulation data. You can create cartridges (and experiment with existing ones of course) and model/simulate all aspects of the round, pressure, velocity, even accuracy nodes, etc

How about talking about the 338-06? Such a wildcat of a cartridge and considering many people love the 338 Win Mag in Alaska. How did it flop with the beloved 30-06 parent case? Love what you guys do! Keep it up!

Tonight I was watching the Ron Spomer Podcast and someone had written in asking about the 6.5 BC and he had never heard of it. He couldn't decide on if they meant PRC or Creedmoor. So the word has gotten albeit slowly.

Thanks for updating on the BC. As always, great job on the podcast guys. Really liked this BC build as well as the custom vs. semi custom series you did with Isaiah. I have similarly wanted to do a wildcat in a Tikka for a long time-.284 Shehane with a long throat so heavies can be seated out super long and use up the space in the LA magazines. I mean no disrespect to Weatherby regarding the 6.5RPM (and don’t get me wrong, I like 6.5 caliber bullets) but I always kinda thought that the 6.5 Weatherby RPM would’ve been a more versatile cartridge for hunting (and in a less-crowded field) if they would have done the exact same thing but in a 7mm.

I’m guessing case capacity is 264 win mag or a bit more. I’ve spent a fair bit of time with a couple of those. One is on its third barrel. All are throated to maximize case capacity I can tell you that 7828, h1000, and magnum are at there best with 130 grain bullets. RE33, LRT, and VV24n41 are better for 140-156 grain bullets. Reloader 33 while fast and accurate, is harder on barrels than 24n41.

Excellent podcast. Extremely informative. I was wondering if Vortex has any thoughts or suggestions about how to deal with transition bi/trifocals when shooting. Minimal positional changes when prone, or even on the bench, tend to shift glasses just enough to bring reticles into and out of focus. Some of us older guys might appreciate any tips you have (besides the obvious -- maintain perfect head position). Thanks.

Sounds like the 6.5 bc is basically a 7mm prc necked down to 6.5, but the case body is slightly fatter.

Just my take. I think the 6.5 mm line of cartridges are just about the "sweet spot" for whitetail/mule deer/pronghorn. Not the "best", but a great balance of power, speed, bullet weight, action size, recoil, gun weight and probably many other things. Bullets in the 130-140 grain range work very well on that sized game. In much the same way, the sweet spot of a framing hammer might be 28 ounces. Big hammers drive nails faster but at the cost of maneuverability and energy expenditure. Lighter hammers are easier to use but don't drive nails as well. Horses for courses, gentlemen.

I agree with Jim. Ruger #1 in 6.5 BC. I'll take one please and a set of dies.

Try to get your hands on RL-33, won’t be disappointed

I've always wanted to see if it's possible to neck up a 5.7x28 to fire a 25 caliber projectile. I found an old box of 25 caliber Hornady projectiles & it got me thinking of a way to use them.

I have the powders you are looking for, and an AMP annealer, Zero press , Auto Trickler V3, come on out and load. Welcome anytime. Also, I recommend the Park West (Dakota Arms) Model 10, much prettier than Ruger No. 1

Could you guys do a 10 min talk on .224 Valkyrie? I really wanna hear your thoughts on this cartridge!

What I'm hearing is ol Ryan has been busy as hell... LOL That's freakin crazy to hear you used 1 piece of brass and fired it 3 times without having to resize!! Considering how much I hate brass prep that could be an awesome problem to have... LOL But just out of curiosity how much different is the 6.5 BC then the 26 Nosler?? Great video as always keepem coming guys!!!

podcast talk idea - Straight wall AR revolution 350 legend, 450 bm have been blowing up in popularity where I live because of hunting

If it ever gets commercialized you could call it the 6.5 vortex or 6.5 vtx.

Looks like the 6.5-284 Norma

You guys should try some IMR 7977 in this beast

Hey Mark when you anneal your groups get smaller and it last way longer even in a small bore cases like 6.5 prc

8mm mauser train still chugging

A browning BLR in 6.5 bitch cat would be freaking amazing

Couple questions @Ryan Muckenhurn, who made your reamers, and is there a parent case that brass can be formed from or is that RCC brass the only way to fly? I like the ideas behind the cartridge and I'd be interested in building a 6.5 BC because I like different cartridges from what everybody else is shooting but that stuff is a little rich for my pocketbook.

Soft brass, play around with seating depth and try some h1000 or maybe RL26 and I bet you can safely pick up a couple hundred FPS.

so the barrel taken off the tikka can be sold off to someone who has a rifle requiring a re barrell, not wasted cash or find one needing one to build up with a few changes.

Look into RU-vid for a diy induction annealer. About as close to plug & play as you can get for less than $250. Controllable to .01 seconds. Unbelievably fast. And I have the ANNEALEEZ II (propane). Works great but the above DIY is so fast to setup and use.

I’m like crack brag who only got to hit the pipe once. I NEED MORE!!!

The big question is will it beat the 6.5-300 weatherby?

What's the usable powder capacity? I sure hope you get this out to the public

Can you do a 10min talk on power coated bullets

Can we get a 10 (ish) minute talk on .30 carbine?

“6.5 Bitch Cat”, that had to be fixed

Hey Guys, 10 min talks are awesome! I've got a good idea for you. Hunting/Match rifle 100yard zero vs 200yard zero.

The Bitch Cat Roars 😎🤘

You can get the speed ,but still do not have the bullet weight for heavy game.There are at this time no good heavy 6.5 bullets around. What is the expected barrel life going to be? Even in a hunting rifle it needs to be acceptable,1000 rounds plus? Load development ,range time, all take a toll on barrel life.

would this cartridge fit in a magazine for dpms gen-1 ar10s? I'm interested in a new chambering like the 6.8 western but that is cutting it close

6.5-300 Weatherby should have been named BC.

I have primers and a pound of the "Short cut" I would be willing to donate to your project.

Please show your work.

A year later. Any new updates?

Why not call it the 6.5 vortex?

Here's a question that just popped into my brain: "Pressure Signs". Those tell-tale indicators of deformation that (as I understand it) should begin to occur when you're reaching (past) the safe powder capacity of the case. No, I don't mean you should necessarily even want to get to that point... BUT... Without properly "malleable" drawn brass (normal mass-produced cases, vs. your current machined prototypes), how would you know when you're nearly reaching your safe/practical upper limits? Isn't it inherently dangerous to use hardened brass for load development in that regard?

It is better than some 6.5 cartridges and not as good as some 6.5 cartridges ! …. It looks like they have just re invented the wheel , I see no real need except for the fun factor of the project !

Where do we send the H1000 to?

So basically. 6.5 x 300 Winchester?

6.5 06 anything more is a zero sum gain. The 264 mag will burn up a barrel in a few hundred rounds.

9x39 please

TALK ABOUT THE 284 WIN A CARTRIDGE THAT WAS AHEAD OF IT,S TIME ,

300 win LONG mag

Not complaining. But what is the purpose of this round?

If y’all didn’t get an AMP annealer….

What does BC stand for?

Why would you create a new wildcat- duh - it’s fun?

You could write off the amp annealer as a buisness expense....

why so many 6.5's?

Bla Bla Bla

That guys hand movements make this hard to watch.

When will you talk about the 300 WinMag? Too boring? Passé? Give credit where credit is due. Enough of this 6.5 And all of the Goldilocks metric cartridges from Hornady. Let’s get back to the 30s. Those are America’s cartridges. Yeah that’s right feed the hillbillies.

B.C ? Before creed?