[1183] A Zip-Tie Bike Lock?!? Bell “QuickZip” Opened FAST 

Same, my attempt was so good I didn't even have to buy it.

Brain: *EXISTS NOT* Me: ...

why? just why would anyone even buy that? learnt to open combo bike locks when i was a child 40 yrs before i was even interested in locksport

right?! lol. I have been working on lock picking, sport picking, for a couple of months. Doing so really makes me appreciate the skill of LPL and even You-Tubers of lesser prowess. It still take me a long time to unlock what are supposed to be easy locks. I still practice nearly every day to try and "get good." I am capable in other areas of improving skills, even to mastery levels, but lock pick is much more slow going than I expected. (I am capable of merely "tickling" nip___l jewelry with a 8 foot bullwhip. But it took many hours over the course of years. I expected lockpicking to be easier, but for whatever reason, its not. so....I keep practicing.) Great video as usual LPL. You're a god. .

I think just about every kid that thinks about it for five seconds has learn to crack those locks. I know I did at least ten years before the web was a thing.

Most challenging aspect of defeating this lock is not accidentally seeing the combination as you set it.

@@DNRTannen I reckon if he wanted he could count the clicks for each position and then set it just from the sounds. Not that I am implying that is what he did.

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Ow

@@matthewtalbot-paine7977 I feel like it would be tough to count and differentiate each click and the corresponding dial.

good point

i had such a bad lock that sometimes i used to spend 5mins trying to open it with the key itself. nobody looked at me like i was trying to steal. at this point i think nobody would even care if i had bolt cutters with me

Very well said

I once forgot or lost my key to my bike. My bike was at the trainstation. I just lifted the rear wheel and 'wheelied' it to my house. No one gave a crap. We live in a weird society

@Velzek That's called looking like you belong where you are and are doing what you're supposed to do. When penetrating a site it's highly effective and is a social engineering attack.

It was pretty close. From the time it took him to put it to change mode til he scrambled the wheels enough was about 14 seconds. While from the time he started manipulating the code til he solved it was about 16 seconds

No he won’t

@@accordiongoose4635 Yes he will dorito boi he already has in video 845

The mildly disappointed look that BosnianBill and I made.

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I can hear him saying that

I think the closest he got to that, is aggressively pulling on the shackle and it popped open. Or using a twig...

Or just taking it down to the garage also cool profile pic

Well, I think the sense of "secure" we should use for this lock is like, to "secure" something in position on a windy day. With more steel in its strap, it might be able to do a decent job.

It’s ok I can still pee in your coffee even if you lock the handle :)

I think if it was plastic and for a doll then I would

Oh no not my favorite coffee mug....actually, no one dares come near it or me, until I finish it!

and, if someone what to be an asshole with you the code can be changed really easily.... well, not much a problem because it's so easy to find what it is....

Welcome abroad.

exactly, though now whenever I see a lock, I imagine how I could pick it just because I watch LPL...

Welcome to the rabbit hole

Yep, next you will be buying cheap Chinese lock pick set from eBay haha I already got into a couple of old safes in the shed that had been abandoned for years and now I can keep my ropes and tie downs in their haha all thanks to LPL

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I agree

Bailing wire. Not everyone has wire cutters on them.

Yeeeeah, the Red Green Show!

Константин Моисеев if you can't be handsome, then you can at least be handy.

Flex tape

As a kid I had one of those cheap chain locks with the 4 wheel combination. Looking back, a strong tug probably could have broken that chain, but I didn't know at the time. What I also didn't know was the combination, I always opened it by feel instead. That particular lock the binding of the wheels was always in order from left to right making it possible to basically twist all the wheels in order as you slid your hand along it and open it in essentially one smooth continuous motion. I highly doubt I could have actually entered the combination faster than I could decode it.

@green1 Without even looking at the numbers, right? I know that, did the same, I knew the combination but by just pulling it apart and turn the wheels it was easier to open, also because the lock had very bad quality and I needed to turn the wheels a little offset from their line, later, when I was like 15, 16 years old, I broke it and used the chain for my keys, because it was so cool back then to get hung up on everything you pass by too close.

I remember in middle school one occasion where I forgot my lock combination. Now I knew nothing about locking or lock mechanisms, but I did know that in the past it had seemed like I could feel where the combination was. A few seconds of fiddling around with the lock later and I had decoded it.

Last year I had to wait alone in a room with no other people and no cameras for about an hour and a half, and I forgot to bring anything to do. A fusebox was secured with basically the same mechanism as the one in this video, and having watched a bunch of LPL videos I thought it might be fun to try opening it without tools even though I had never done anything like that before. I opened it in less than 2 minutes even though it had false gates. Turns out locks like these really are _awful_ for security. I closed it back up and sat back down, disappointed that I had messed with a lock that wasn't mine and didn't even have 2 minutes of entertainment to show for it.

on top of the driver's side front tire.

Or the visor

i drop em on the floor

actually locked my keys in the car a few weeks ago but my sparrows short hook got me in about 30 secs

@Achronic Deth Yep. I have an '84 burgundy box Impala and do i ever remove the keys from the ignition. Only if i need access to the trunk or glove box, no window tint.

I mean it's a QuickZip, not a SlowUnzip

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Clearly, the solution is to blister pack your bikes.

it did with one lock

@@syd.a.m better yet, blister pack the would be thieves

If there was a BlisterpackOpeningLawyer channel I'd watch. That stuff has ruined Christmas morning more than once.

@@shteebo Damn right, not the only one. I'd pay cash by the palate

And then it was time to change the lock...

@@pixelcat_yt and lose that convenience??

@@pixelcat_yt Depends if he thinks he can get more from insurance for the stolen bike then the bike was worth to start with. Insurance companies don't like to pay out if you were "negligent" by not locking the bike, but if the lock is useless, well, you did your part....

@@Green__one that's actually an interesting perspective ngl

@@pixelcat_yt lol it's a flea market special anyway. It's only good for keeping someone from just jumping on and riding away.

Actually, that is probably the best use case for this product.

A ziptie works just as well and probably costs a lot less

@@mhammadalloush5104 Bu if you get thousands of storms, it'll pay for itself over a few years through re-use!

This states it's for quick stops, it's not meant to deter an actual bike thief, as much as it is the kind of person who would see an unsecured bike and ride off with it, which is a pretty substantial threat. I think there are several locks that are similarly convenient and more secure, but this does have its place.

I have another use, since I have old manual roll up garage doors on my back yard shop the original owner built in the early 80's, and there is a spot on both of them on the inside of the roller tracks you can slip a lock into in order to keep them from going up more then 1/4 of an inch, and that's about all I would use these things for as backups to the outside lock handles, otherwise total junk. to be known I already have some heavy brinks brass padlocks with long shackles on the inside of the doors as is, which works just fine.

I use an "I have lice" sticker to secure my helmet

@@rockon646 You think they are going to take the time to read your sticker, or can read? :P they are just going to walk up, grab, walk away then if they see the sticker, toss it. You are still out a helmet.

One of the vent holes in my helmet is large enough to pass the end of my cable lock through (cable lock attaches the wheels, seat, and helmet to the frame and bike rack, a real lock can secure the frame and usually one wheel to the rack).

@@Green__one I am talking about a motorcycle helmet, not a bicycle. Most of the time bicycles do not even enter my thought process because I only ride them for exercise sometimes and have it locked in my house or garage any time I am not using it.

@@Evirthewarrior I have a disc lock with alarm. Its a cheap one bit is damn near impossible to cut off (ok, sure its doable but would take extremely long.) Sometimes when m just going into a store for a minute or 2 i just put that thing trough me helmet strap. I can even lock it on my disk with also the helmet strap if I want to leave it for a little longer

I'm amazed at LPL's abilities, but this video isn't really one that demonstrates them. Videos like this amaze me at what some companies are willing to call a "lock"

exactly what i did. lol

i doubt they give a shit, they know it's terrible, but it's cheap to manufacture

Cheap combination locks like this for bikes have existed since at least the 1970s when I was picking them for amusement.

C'mon guys! You told me LPL would take 20 seconds! That's why we put the High Secuirty sticker on it!

If only CEOs cared about anything other than making all the money.

@@BRUXXUS One does: If you want to spend good money on a good lock made in the good 'ol USA, Pacific Lock Company (PACLOCK) is where you want to take your business. Send your regards to Gregory Waugh.

No, the won't, they already made their profit with it, consumption cattle buys everything, even own fecies as a delicatess.

Dental floss would be better, surely. That stuff is tough!

Without tools hard to open, would rather cut the hands with it.

Its the same as wrapping fishing line around it 10 times, but the fishing line is harder to cut.

It's how you can tell he's a lawyer XD

That was half the video.

a large zip tie would definitely be more secure, the thief would at least require some kind of tool to open/cut it.

@@albr4 yeah, scissors

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They don't want to make the best locks. That costs a lot of money and nets very little profit.

A crappy little "accident" now

Use six of them with different combinations. The bike will only get stolen when the thief has a spare 90 seconds or so.

I am an honest person, but seeing locks this bad is almost incentive to not be! (I would never steal, but it's so tempting to unlock a lock like this, turn the bike upside down, and re-lock it. Should be pretty obvious to the owner that they didn't leave the bike like that, and that their lock isn't worth much!)

@@Green__one that would be hilarious. That's actually a good video idea!

Didn't expect to see a big celebrity like yourself in the comments of this video. I wonder how many people will believe this is the real channel.

He'd probably still get it open in under 30 seconds.

Considering it has a steel core i guess cutting will either require some better tools or breaking it might be faster

The problem here it that it isn't police-proof to cut bike locks on the street: But picking it like this look just normal from the distance

I'd quite like to see if a strong yank could force it open.

I'm guessing that's only very slightly faster than decoding the lock.

I was wondering that too...

Why carry a shim when you don’t need to?

He did that in the review of the orange ziptie one

No need at all, not even wondering, this locks are mostly esier to open blindly then by the code, everyone who ever used one knows it, just pull it apart and turn the wheels.

The lock was open when he changed the combination ... but it'd only take a few minutes to open, change combination and lock the owner out of their own lock...

@@wopian_ oh yeah, just rewatched it. I must have missed that the first time, but yeah the lock does seem to be an easy open

Such is the fate of Internet content creators.

He hasn't been able to open bowley lock yet so prolly that one

@@titaniumdrivetechnologyco.8325 But can I like break it with a flame or with big metal Clippers

But keeping the lock intact is the best part. Nothing is quite as effective at pissing off the bike owner as finding their lock intact and still locked to the bike rack, but the bike nowhere to be found.

@@Green__one LOL! You have a point there :-)

It was very clearly unlocked.

You need to know the original code and only then will the 'change mode ' work

@@catsayswut7097 Of course with how easy this is to decode "knowing" is relative, and you could easily prank someone who actually thought this was a useful lock.

Didnt want the hassle of getting her ice cream for helping i imagine

I assume you would need to have it unlocked before you could do this.

Has to be set to the proper combination before it can be changed

You can't put it in change mode unless it's currently unlocked.

Well the part only let's you change where the numbers are in connection to the pins it won't automatically make the pins you selected the code

You likely can't engage the change mode until you've input the correct combination.

Yep, we have a Master combination padlock at work on a cupboard, I practice by opening it, eyes shut - handy as I can never remember the combination. And there is one on the communal driveway gate on our road, if you’re visiting us Mr LPL, the combination code is......... irrelevant.

By short stops, they mean ones so short that you don't even get off the bike... But yes, I agree, a normal U lock is just as easy (if not easier) to use than something like this, and why carry multiple locks? (Actually it's often necessary to carry a U lock to attack to a solid object, and a cable lock to attach all the accessories to the bike (wheels/seat/helmet). But in that case, you can use just the U for "short stops".)

Its still better than none..... although its actually pretty horrendous

dunno. phycological lock?

It’s better than nothing. Unfortunately that’s the best thing I can say about this lock. It’s better than nothing.

Master Padlocks Marketing Exec. ....”Maybe we should sponsor a RU-vid channel? This LPL guy is all about locks and security, how about it?” 🤦‍♂️