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12 Speed CHAINRINGS and CHAIN Compatibility, Mixing SRAM and Shimano and 3rd Party, Tips and Tricks

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CHAINRING and CHAIN compatibility for 12 speed. Upgrading to 12 speed? Shimano? SRAM Eagle? Here is all you need to know about the #Shimano and #SRAM 12 speed #chainring and chains #ttype
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00:00 Intro
00:28 12 speed Chain differences
02:23 Shimano Chainring
03:25 SRAM Chainring
03:50 12 Speed Quick Links
04:09 #1 Eagle 12s chainrings
04:53 #2 Shimano chainring with SRAM chain
06:23 Shimano 12s chainrings
07:02 #3 Old crank options
07:15 #4 SRAM chainring, Shimano Chain
07:50 #5 3rd Party chainring, non HG+
08:37 Best option?
08:57 Conclusions
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@michaelrogers9809 5 месяцев назад

Really great info! It's nice to get an explanation of what can be fudged, and what can't, without buying a bunch of stuff and hoping for the best.

@sebastianjost 2 года назад

That's the first time I have seen a decent explanation why Shimano HG+ chains are not compatible with other brands. And your explanation was great, like the entire video! I was kind of forced to go back to NX 1x11 and have GRX 11s on my Gravel bike. Previously I used a conplete Eagle GX drivetrain and later upgraded to an X01 chain.

@ibjaime Год назад

I’ve been racing Enduro at the expert level competitively for a decade, mixing drivetrain components mostly SRAM 12-speed with RaceFace cranks and chainrings, never a problem (except for Next SL crank-arms breaking!) Now that Shimano finally broke into the 12-speed market (at a much more affordable price,) I started racing Shimano XTR on one bike, and SRAM XO-1 on the other, both with RaceFace Cranks & chainrings. About a year ago (after Fox acquired RaceFace,) RaceFace had deep discounts on their chainrings. I bought enough to last a few years of riding and racing. This last bunch has been giving me constant issues. I just got home from a CA Enduro Series race at Northstar (8/20/23,) and I had to remove a brand new XT chain and run a SRAM chain on a brand new RaceFace chainring, but it still didn’t work well in the biggest gears while trying to hammer down the high-speed sections. I think RaceFace dumped a bunch of chainrings because they knew they had compatibility issues.

@LoveMTB 11 месяцев назад

INteresting, thanks for sharing your experience. I have not used RaceFace chainrings for a while.

@Pant991 2 года назад

On my old 11s Sram group I was using a hg Shimano chain and it worked fine. On my new Sram eagle I am using a eagle chain with a Garbaruk oval 34t and it works absolutely great 👍

@sebee.teodorescu 2 года назад

I migrated last year to 1x12, and it is a total game changer. I wanted to go full Shimano, but I also wanted to keep it in a budget, so I chose to keep my cranks (which are not hollowtech style) and went for a SunRace CRMX00 chainring which I think woks great. But now that you mentioned it, I think indeed it is not fully compatible with the chain, and the wide tooths are wider than Shimano ones, so there is some friction and noise over there, but nothing huge. When they will tear up (either the chain or the chainring), I will switch to Shimano Cranks and chainring as well, but until then I am happy with the way it works. Thank you for the explanation and the detailed video!

@matoatlantis 2 года назад

Well, to each his own. I have 2x11 XT (m8000) on my XC and 1x12 SLX (m7100) on my enduro bike. I'm new to 1x system, have it for 3 months only. I took my enduro uphill (1km vertical climb). I must say I'm not happy to see the chain crossed so much when I use the 51T. It's said chain is built for this but personally I feel it's just not right. It's an enduro bike, I expect this bike to be ridden mostly in bike parks. On the other hand I can't be more happy with the 2x system on my XC. It provides better gear ratio (both on the low and high ends). Probably the only downside of this setup is that I can't use dropper post lever as there's no room in the cockpit for it. I have to use one that is next to the brake/shift levers.

@sebee.teodorescu 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Indeed, that was what I was aiming for initially, but it was out of my budget at the time.

@sebee.teodorescu 2 года назад

@@matoatlantis I had 2x9 on my bike, but I was always having issues with dropping chain. And after some thought about it, I changed it to 1x12 SLX (with Deore derailleur) and I am totally happy with it. The gear range is just what I need, and I don't miss the gears that I had on 2x9. The lowest gear is lower than what I had, and the highest gear is higher than what I had, and I don't really use all the middle ones. Basically a 9-10 speed sprocket with ratio 10/11-50/51 teeth like Box ones would have been best for my needs, but they are not available in my country. So Shimano or Sram with their 12s 10-51/11-50 where the only choices I had in this regard.

@matoatlantis 2 года назад

@@sebee.teodorescu Then it's an improvement for you, glad to hear that. I just hope Shimano doesn't kill 2x systems just yet.

@mariusesther 2 года назад

Thanks for this video. It is great to find such content on your channel. I run an oval 32 tooth OneUp chainring with my Shimano SLX 12speed drivetrain and chain together with a Sunrace MZ903 cassette. That is needed because I use the old Shomano hub. But the combination works very smooth.

@thor.odinson. 2 года назад

this video is a lifesaver! 👏 I can confirm Sram chainring (34T X-Sync 2 eagle) works great with Shimano M6100 chain, shifter, M7100 cassette and hub. I used Sram eagle power lock and it shifts so smooth and so quiet that I still can't believe how well it worked out. Even the chainline turned out ok with the old Shimano Deore M590 crankset. I would highly recommend converting your bike to 1x12! it's not as hard and not as expensive as the 3x6 fanboys would make you believe 😋 PS 10-51T range blew my mind 🤩

@The1984Gman 7 месяцев назад

Hey, I've got a shimano 12s cassette and derailleur with a sram dub crankset, will a shimano chain work with the sram crankset/chainring, cheers 👍

@gergo-hajdu 2 года назад

I recently change the 11 speed to a Sra-Mano 12 speed system (based on your experiment). The system contains a SRAM GX axs, XT M8100 Cassette + Dt Swiss micro spline freehub, Shimano Deore XT Chain CN-M8100, and an old FC-M9000-1 crankset, these all works fine with the Shimano CR M90 34T chainring (not narrow-wide) + chainguide.

@user-zu4nl7bm9e Год назад

I thought sra-mano was some kind of Arbic bicycle brand before read the rest words.

@gergo-hajdu Год назад

@@user-zu4nl7bm9e 😂 ..sounds weird, but works great!✌🏽

@richardroskell3452 2 года назад

Love your tech reveals, dude. Highly informative. I'm running SRAM GX chainring.

@Alexander-zs5rj Месяц назад

I took a Katana 42teeth 1x11 instead 3x11 lowspeed .. Chain Line moved in correct Position its nicer and faster than before with KMC Titan chain

@ThiccBoi69420 2 года назад

I'm running quite a mixed setup myself. Shimano SLX 12 speed cassette, Sram GX 12 speed derailleur, Absolute Black oval chain ring and KMC 12 speed chain. I have to say that is running without any issue what so ever. In the past I've also ran a Sram NX 12 speed cassete, with Shimano Deore 12speed derailleur and Blacksprie Snaggletooth oval chain ring and KMC 12 spedd chain.

@ThiccBoi69420 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB maybe "approved" by the community defenetley not by Sram or Shimano😅

@alext4124 Год назад

Thank you for this! I am building a "parts bin" hard-tail using only parts I've taken off other bikes as they get upgraded. At this point I have 12spd SLX cranks with Shimano 30t chain ring.I also have a 12spd SRAM GX derailleur, 10-52 cassette and matching XD free-hub wheelset . I plan on running this set up and I have both GX and XT chains to choose. Based on your videos I think the GX is the chain I'll pick. Thank you again!

@LoveMTB Год назад

You’re welcome. And I would also use the GX chain🤓

@alext4124 Год назад

@@LoveMTB and even more than that, I built it with your 4-part “How to build a bike” series. I always had a pretty good idea of how to do most of it. Headsets, forks, bottom brackets etc. But hydraulic brakes and derailleur adjustment were always the biggest barriers and things I would take and pay someone to do them. Your videos are fantastic and I recommend them to anyone I can. Thank you again. 🙏

@dongoat4232 4 месяца назад

I was just thinking if i could mix it but you have this video! Thanks a lot!

@Jacob99174 2 года назад

As always, fantastic detail and review. Helpful!

@2scoops624 2 года назад

I'm running a 12 speed slx group set with Shimano cranks, shifter, derailleur, chain, absolute black chain ring and sun race 11-51t cassette. Runs well for me, I'm sure it'd shift a little smoother with a Shimano cassette, but this allows me to keep using my hg hub body wheel set.

@nodaysoff23 2 года назад

My bike came with a Sunrace cassette (shortages I am guessing) on an HG hub. Other than that is all Shimano 12 speed. Found out it was HG after I attempted to swap it to an XT cassette (microspline)....but I have new wheels now so there is that. 😑💰

@nodaysoff23 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Got some Stan'sFlow MK4 with oil slick Bitex hubs in a sale. 108 poi. Swapped the grease for oil. Good so far. Can't say that the XT cassette shifts any smoother than the Sunrace tbh. It was 200g lighter though

@2scoops624 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB I have some 29er, 32 spoke raceface ARC 40mm offset set rims laced to dt Swiss 350 hubs with 54t ratchet, running 29x2.8 tires, as well as some stock bontrager wheels (45i) with studded 29x2.8's, and some stock orbea wheels (30i) with a decent hub an 29x2.4 tires. I'll swap between the 3 for different conditions on my orbea Occam h30 and Trek 1120.

@palashpalpattuwar87 8 месяцев назад

@2scoops642, what are the no. Of teeth on your chainring? Please tag and comment.

@skullsroad3642 2 года назад

Running 12spd Deore with a Oneup chainring. There was quite a bit of noise when the chainring was new but after one ride it got quiet. My other bike has a race face chainring and it was silent from the get go. So it must come down to Oneups "universal" design.

@MTB_Rider_96 2 года назад

I'm running a Race Face Chainring with a XX1 chain - it all works great.

@philipalbon3192 2 года назад

I’ve just got a bike with race face chainring and arms

@wonderwatch2239 2 года назад

Started my Shimano 12sp endeavours with a ROTOR crank oval chainring, and the chain would grind, because of the protruding links. I contacted ROTOR for a solution, and all they said was, ‘run a kmc quick link’ they even made a video about it…..🤷‍♂️ I ended up grinding all the wide teeth to fit the chain 👌

@dimimtb 2 года назад

LOL, now you post this just as I ordered an absoluteblack oval 32T for the spring when I'm replacing my chain on my Shimano crank. All great info.

@myelus 2 года назад

Bravo domnu`, am descoperit pe pielea mea treaba cu lantul si unghiurile !! Foarte bun materialul. Felicitari !

@chuckedenburn5086 2 года назад

Absolute Black Oval 32 on XT 12 speed Drive train, tried KMC made noise, got the Shimano XTR Chain, nice and quiet.

@nedt 2 года назад

What an awesome round up. Best I’ve seen! Thankyou

@harleyhunter68 2 года назад

your channel is dynamite. i bought a new bike with deore 10 speed in the back and just a cheap rocky mountain crank and ring in the front with a square threaded bb. i want to get a better shimano bb and new crank and oval chainring. what do u suggest? im new to mtb so help is appreciated. thanks

@ChezzyDirt 2 года назад

Garbaruk is worth a mention here. Their chain ring works amazing with both SRAM & Shimano 12s, many different crank and bcd options. Long lasting & quiet , total win.

@ChezzyDirt 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB ahh,i missed that somehow. Give them a go, Garbaruk quality nice gear.

@biciclettaclassica 9 месяцев назад

Which Shimano 12s chain should I use? How about the CN-M6100 12s of the Deore 1x12 group ?

@ChezzyDirt 9 месяцев назад

@@biciclettaclassica personally I dont skimp on chain, I prefer the CN-M9100.

@aznguyen316 2 года назад

Using a Absolute black oval "sram" boost chainring with GX dub cranks, GX cassette and GX chain but also am using Shimano XT rear derailleur with XT shifter in the drive train. Shmeagle GXT I guess? It works great for me and I sourced parts on second hand market via take offs. Saved a lot of money this way and mostly thanks to your channel I was able to do all of my own work at home! You rock!! You need a patreon or something.

@coltonbutts96 6 месяцев назад

Is this still going good for you? I have nx parts but looking at upgrading to XT parts mixed with gx

@loft4me Год назад

Got a Garbaruk cassette, a Kore round 28t chain ring, an X01 derailleur, and a KMC chain. I call my ride, the Frankenbike.

@tim3978 2 года назад

Thanks for the video, I’m running an eagle chainring with Shimano 1x12 it seems to work perfectly, but I never thought I’m about it wearing out a bit faster.

@tim3978 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB just the standard Shimano one, but the Eagle chainring did have about 2-3000km on it before I converted the rear and chain to Shimano, so maybe it has worn down enough that it fits fine?

@kotelettschweiss7811 2 года назад

@@tim3978 is it a chainring with X Sync Profile?

@tim3978 2 года назад

@@kotelettschweiss7811 yes X SYNC 2

@rupiamasterconfig 2 года назад

Great video as always! Using Brazilian Nottable chainring (great quality) on Shimano 12s system, but have to replace the quick link for an Eagle (too tight for the tooth profile of chainring, that is more like Sram compatible). On my gravel bike, 38T or 40T chinese generic (but great quality chainrings) with KMC 12s chain. Never had a chain drop, since using 11s chains or 12s, no matter how many parts I mixed.

@lukasfoe6508 2 года назад

I use an absolute black oval chainring specified for shimano 12s with a full slx 12s drivetrain

@gilbertoburguetea5524 2 года назад

Que interesante, gracias máster por la información recibe un cordial saludo desde Cintalapa Chiapas México

@paulnam4488 11 месяцев назад

My wife's bikes use Absolute Black chainrings and 12 speed Shimano chains, XT derailleurs, and Sunrace cassettes. One bike is 12 speed and the other is 11. They both work great with the 12 speed chain. I use her old chains, slightly worn, on my 1x11 and I get some noise from the 11 speed chainring. It works and the noise is only there on hard climbs. It annoys me. I want a new chain ring now. The 12 speed chain works fine in the 11 speed Sunrace cassette amd Sram derailleur i have. Or i could try a SRAM chain. But since I'm rotating through Shimano chains the chainring seems like a good alternative. Or maybe go back to 11 speed chains. I noticed the shifting actually seemed better with the 12 speed chain on the 11 speed cassette. Well it works good enough for what I do - long rides with lots of climbing. If i raced, i couldn't tolerate it.

@UnEmploymentDude 2 года назад

#4 SRAM chainring with Shimano 12sp chain. No-go. I had excessive chain wear and really bad chain suck. I have deep gouges on my chainstay because of it. Changing to a Shimano 12sp specific ring fixed my issues.

@jerminator_ 2 года назад

Currently have Raceface Next R cranks, so opted for OneUp components switch oval 30t chainring (pretty easy to install, haven't had to replace yet) - paired with ethirteen Helix 12 speed cassette (the smaller cluster with higher gears needs replacing, installed same time as chainring) and Sram GX deraileur. Been using sram NX chains, and stay on top of swapping chains for most part. Love learning about bike tech stuff, but sometimes this stuff goes over my head, probably cause what i have works great. Thanks for sharing!

@crewmanderek3641 Год назад

Tons of amazing information in this video! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a ton! I subscribed and will check out your other stuff!

@LoveMTB Год назад

Welcome!

@ojanpohja 2 года назад

I've ridden Shimano 12 speed with Eagle chain rings for a long time. It works just fine.

@an0nym0ust10 6 месяцев назад

Is there premature wear of the chain or the chainring with this setup?

@terencebracamonte2783 2 года назад

Tried Shimano Chains before on SRAM GX chainring and was noisy. Settled back to GX chains and problem solved. Now using Shimano chains, SLX chainrings on SRAM NX cassette and no noise and can shift fine.

@TheAlexcutting Год назад

great video well worth the watch lots of information thanks

@edgarasu.6124 2 года назад

12sp SLX RD, 11sp SunRace cassette, sram 11sp chain, China CNC chainring, new Deore 11sp shifters, it works and gets me from A to B haha

@thomasgrootenboer 2 года назад

Brilliant video, exactly what I was looking for!

@Tomzzzzzz Год назад

Love the detail you get into in all your videos! I learn something new every time. I'll be using the Race Face Cinch (direct mount) chainring specifically for Shimano 12 speed since I already have RF Turbine cranks. Any tips or issues with that set up? Looks like Shimano also went to direct mount with their M8100 cranks. No more 4-bolt, which makes sense. For chain, I'll be using the Shimano XT M8100. Looking forward to the new set up and finally having a big granny gear for climbing the steeps around here! It will be interesting to see how fast the chain/cassette/chainring wears. Hopefully not too fast as the price of these parts is up there vs 11 spd! Also, right now there's a shortage of XT 12 speed cassettes in the USA. The current estimated wait time is March 2023! Luckily I found a buddy who was willing to sell me his that he just bought and had planned to return. Hope Shimano gets their supply chain issues solved soon.

@VikingRasbornStrong Год назад

Great. Thanks for the chain internal spacing shots !! Wow. Very interesting; I guess I'm good. Especially after installing an AXS only Eagle cassette which seems to jump all over the place?? My Trance X2 Mullet setup --- SLX 7100 crankset with 30T driving my new Rear 12x148 boost XD Hydra + X01 B1 10-52T cassette and GX 520% RD = super smooth (no difference in X01 rd; 1/2 price) ---- even with my KMC X12 silver chain and SLX shifter (X01 so stiff/too large?) Waiting on new copper E*Thirteen Helix R (12S 9-59T 2 piece ) cassette to test out --- We'll see - Paid $280 instead of X01 $433! Ouch. Concerned the also ordered to test XX1 copper chain works well with my SLX chainring???? The KMC X12 is still solid and smooth. So Fun.

@VikingRasbornStrong Год назад

@@LoveMTB yup. just viewed it today -- awesome and very helpful.

@kevinborovsky3558 2 года назад

Another informative video as always thx. Your videos are the go to when building a new bike or just problems with an older one. Take care

@kotelettschweiss7811 2 года назад

Im not sure if this video will solve the exact Problem I have as I am Planning on using an X sync Chainring with a Shimano 12spd Setup, but it was helpful nonetheless. This video is Just amazing. This will just remove so many headscratches. Thank you :)

@kotelettschweiss7811 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB I ended up with the safe route, Deore Chainring IT IS

@allrounderbicycle7193 Год назад

Thanks for the deep dive. It's helped to verify the noise I'm hearing on my Canyon Neuron. It uses a Deore Hyperglide + 12s chain but makes a terrible sound while backpedaling especially. I'm working with an FSA Comet Crankset that are listed in multiple places as being Shimano 12 compatible, or Shimano 11/12 compatible. The Megatooth chainring on it says SH12 so and I can't find anything that specifically states its for Hyperglide + 12s. The problem seems to be the chamfered inner plates, which hang up on the edge of the chainring teeth for fleeting moment just before it seats fully into the trough of the chainring teeth. It would be easy to simply solve the noise issue by replacing the chain with a SRAM but then I would lose the simultaneous two-cog engagement that the Hyperglide + provides. I'm thinking Canyon actually may owe me a new ring that is actually compatible with this chain. Anyone else having an issue with the Shimano Hypeglide + making noise while backpedaling?

@LoveMTB Год назад

Interesting find. Assume Canyon went withe FSA's claim that they are HG+ compatible, how much riding have you had on the drivetrain? It settles down a bit after 100km or so.

@allrounderbicycle7193 Год назад

@@LoveMTB I wouldn't doubt the sound could go away eventually, but it's going to take a lot longer than 100km for that to happen. Made a little video on it here. Today Canyon offered a $150 credit to purchase a Shimano crankset instead, which, to me, seems like an admission that there is no solution with the FSA. This is the video I sent to them: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-duVb5NBH2kQ.html

@LoveMTB Год назад

@@allrounderbicycle7193 Yeah that's high friction from teeth that are not HG+ specific. I would take the crankset they are offering you!

@allrounderbicycle7193 Год назад

@@LoveMTB And from FSA: "According to our policy, I'm not able to "warranty" an item that is functional due to the way it sounds when being used in a way that is not related to its function [pedaling backwards]. I can offer a 30% replacement discount. I recommend using the $150 credit that you mentioned Canyon gave you for this concern along with the 30% discount I am offering, and try out the 11 speed ring."

@LoveMTB Год назад

@@allrounderbicycle7193 Stay away from FSA next time? 😉

@davidsiscar207 2 года назад

Garbaruk is my 12s option, cassette and chainring. Nice videos !!

@TeamCykelhold 2 года назад

nice bit of info. Keep it up, your chan seems to be growing.

@Ghostina1 2 года назад

Great Video! I want to throw int the OneUp Components V2 Chainring! Perfect vor Shimano 12s drivetrains!

@FreerideQuebec 2 года назад

First oval chainring I rode was the Wolftooth, worked good (or so that I tough) but had problem getting a perfect shifting on a Sram drivetrain. Switched for an oval from Sram...wow, the difference is huge versus the Wolftooth. Shifting is now perfect, no chain skip at all. Third parties are not always the best option even if it's sometimes cheaper

@jawg2392 2 года назад

Sram tooth shape is more engaging

@FreerideQuebec 2 года назад

@@jawg2392 exactly, the derailleur never hesitate, goes right to next speed

@davidsuzukiispolpot 2 года назад

The chainring changed the shifting on the cassette? that confuses me

@FreerideQuebec 2 года назад

@@davidsuzukiispolpot The X-Sync 2 narrow wide technology is far superior versus the Wolftooth one. Even with a perfectly adjusted derailleur and B screw, something the shifting would just happens because the chain wouldn't engage. Not happening with the Sram one

@ЛёхаБукреев Год назад

@@davidsuzukiispolpot =))) Also think so

@edgarstudillo5649 2 года назад

I use ZRACE 38T Shimano specific and haven't had any problem 👌

@mtbbiker6401 2 года назад

Hi. Can I use SRAM X-Sync 2 chainring with Shimano 11 speed chain (including Shimano 11 speed quick link)? Will that work okay?

@Stussy787 Год назад

I am getting 2 race seasons out of my Shimano chainwheel. I run a KMC X12 chain and have replaced the chain 4 times during the 2 race seasons.

@MTB_CRZY Год назад

So.. just buy a Sram or KMC chain and it wont matter what cassette or chainring you have lol

@jannep6772 Год назад

I have Katana Razorblade Oval Narrow Wide 34T Chainring with KMC X10SL Ti-N 10-speed Chain and SunRace MX3 10-speed Cassette 11-42.

@jamesbell1111 2 года назад

Hi, I love your video. I have a quiestion, Can I used the same chain? Where I live there are very few hills and I want to get more speed. I have a SRAM (1 x 12) 11-50 38t chainring. I would like to get a 40t or 42t chainring. Would I need a longer chain? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I have never used the 50( just not hilly enough) I was thinking maybe a 46t but that might be to big. Thanks

@pishbonez Год назад

Thank you so much!

@LoveMTB Год назад

You're welcome!

@Van.Mironov 2 года назад

Thank you for your video. I am now at 11sp Shimano XT setup - using Neutrino components chainring and KMC 11sp chain. At my 12speed enduro I am also using Neutrino components chainring 30tooth + Gx derailleur and chain +NX cassette Well, this guys from Perm city in RU have different chainrings -special for SRAM and Shimano setups.

@jurgensterblanche537 2 года назад

Excellent video. Thanks heaps! Just answered all my questions. Currently running older 11spd GX drivetrain which is at its end. Will be replacing with shimano slx 12spd but keeping sram crank (with new chain ring). Relieved that it will be compatible. Will replace with shimano crank at later stage. Thanks again

@FrenchKissr 2 года назад

Did it work?

@gabustrech8428 4 месяца назад

Quiero comprar un bolante shimano xt pero tengo cadena sram gx serán compatibles? No se cae la cadena?

@vladv7419 2 года назад

Today I discovered that I lost my 10 speed chain. Surprise! I found it on my bike with 12 speed sram eagle drivetrain. How? While cleaning my bike chains I just make this mistake. So 10 speed chain works fine on my sram cassette and sram crankset! By the way, I use slx 12 speed deraileur with sram shifter! And also works fine on this bike)

@ngwah1218 7 месяцев назад

You can used 11speed chain for shimano 12 speed system, it’s good for solve this wear chainring problems !

@LoveMTB 6 месяцев назад

Actually you cannot...chain is thicker

@RomanE_____ 2 года назад

Latest KMC x12 chains have similar to Shimano HG+ inner plate design. So KMC will be more like Shimano in terms of compatibility.

@steverice1467 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB KMC X-12 is definitely NOT compatible with SRAM Eagle SX chainring, space is too narrow in the chain for the teeth of the chainring, constant resistance with every pedal stroke, backpedaling on larger sprockets results in chain drop to lower rings.

@paulb9769 2 месяца назад

2 years on have you found any new options for the Shimano 12 speed? I have a pretty new Praxis Zayante 3 bolt which I cant afford to change.

@LoveMTB 2 месяца назад

Still using the absoluteBlack and Garbaruk ovals, not worn out yet.

@1Medel 2 года назад

Excelente explicación, toda mi transmisión es XT de 12v

@jongoverthebars3572 9 месяцев назад

Hello you might have an idea. I'm using the FSA Grid cranks but my problem is with the chain ring. I really dont have an idea what is the type of direct chainring it is. Like the inside teeth of the chainring. Is it cinch type?? im using the FSA Grid with the FSA modular system. Thank you for your help if you ever see this message.

@LoveMTB 9 месяцев назад

Google is probably your best bet, I have no experience with the FSA cranks

@johncoqtoastin 2 года назад

I’m using the Wolftooth CAMO system on SX cranks. It seemed like a good idea, could get a Shimano compatible chainring that fits the system in the future but I probably won’t.

@dannyslea Год назад

I have SRAM GX AXS, GX 10-52 cassette, XT cranks with the absolute black oval chain ring. The chain is SRAM 12 speed, the nice rainbow one. I didn't plan it this way, it's just the parts I ended up with. I tried to change to the Oneup oval chainring, but my chainring bolts are on too tight. Couldn't get them off. So I've kept the absolute black chainring in. After some maintenance the other day, I went for is test ride and noticed some creaking under power. Changed to chain and it went away. I hope I am not destroying the chains some how. Seems to work fine with no extra resistance though.

@M1keBLR 2 года назад

Sram Eagle transmission can only work with sram chains, because the size of rollers in the chain is bigger than standart for all other chains. So you can't use sram transmission with third party chain. And for shimano you can choose any chain (except sram) you want. If you'll try to use shimano chain on eagle drivetrain it will work like the chain totaly worn out.

@M1keBLR 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB so it could be xx1 issue only. Because my experience is based on xx1 eagle group.

2 года назад

hmm, recently put a new shimano 12s deore chain on Sram SX 12s drive train as preventive maytanence. Worked fine on bike stand, will look closer at thease parts when the season starts for my trail bike.

@jeskli11 Год назад

Hi, this video kinda opened my eyes, but just to be sure - currently there's a complete Shimano XTR drivetrain on my bike and I want to get a spider based powermeter, which is avalible with either 8-100 bcd or 4-104 bcd mounting options for the chainring. The obvious choice would be to opt for the 8-100 bcd option, buy an XT chainring, dismount it from the original spider and use that, but some say this version of the powermeter is not that great and it's better to opt for 4-104 bcd. Then the obvious choice would be the Shimano HG+ chainring from Wolftooth, but that one with shipping to my place is crazy expensive. Now to my question related to your video. From what you said, it seems I could go with the 4-104 bcd version of the powermeter and get any cheap narrow-wide chainring, then swap the chain to Sram or KMC and it would work just fine with the rest of the drivetrain. Is that correct? Thanks in instance for your answer.

@pupoje 7 месяцев назад

Right now i'm in dilema. I upgraded Back wheel to DT Swiss boost 148 with shimano SLX kasette and SLX dereileur and SLX Chain. The chainring on the front seems to be SRAM, but i don't know which one. Should i just buy SRAM X-Sync 2 chainring or just go to Shimano M7100 Crankset.

@LoveMTB 7 месяцев назад

Go 3rd party chainring for STAM cranks that's made for the Shimano HG+

@hzjdhhgfdyjvc311 2 года назад

i use a truvativ fire x with one up 34 t end 9speed in the back with sram x5 derailler end sram x7 shifter end it's work like a dream

@drcobayo1 2 года назад

I have a 12s NX derraileaur with NX chainring in y cannondale FSI, but i changed the cassette for a shimano SLX, i have to change the chain too becouse of what you said about the internals, and i instantly notice an upgrade in the smooth of the shift, specially upshifting with load. However the chainring did not get me any trouble, it has 500km aprox. I will keep an eye on the quicklink and buy an spare of SRAM brand. But overall the ''Sharmano'' transmission works flawless (i apologize for my writing, i'm from argentina and it's been a while since the last time i wrote in english)

@Themilkmanskid. 5 месяцев назад

I have a complete 12-speed slx drivetrain (microspline) on my mtb and I don't like the way the chain sits on my cassette, like this 1:49. It makes noise sometimes and i can tell it's coming from the chain not sitting snug on the cassette. Please which mtb 12-speed cassette (microspline) can i get that will allow my slx chain to sit better? I am willing to go with an 11-speed cassette if that would fit my drivetrain, as i've noticed those 11-speed cassettes fit their chains snug.

@UnimpressedAussie Год назад

I use a 30t ali express chainring... no complaints at all and was only $10 LOL

@finarollerz 2 года назад

Thinking of doing a 12sp- praxis crank chainring, garbaruk cassette, Ratio modded brifters/ sram derailure and chain.

@ChristianvonHausen Год назад

Hi, I am looking for help; I have a 30t 11spd x-sync chainring with a cs-m7100 12spd cassette, and cn-m7100 chain, must the chainring be change to something else?, pls let me know any comments.

@jromtb 2 года назад

I am now using this immortal combo: xx1 crank with garbaruk 34t chainring, garbaruk XD cassete, sram GX eagle deraileur and Shimano XT 12sp chain! Cheers :)

@jromtb 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Garbaruk Cassete after 3k km is still in very good shape and works as good as Sram GX cassete which was less durable and much heavier. Shimano chain because of durability, availability and price. Sram XX1 chain is unavailable here in Poland or available with price two times higher than year ago which is sick!

@semper762 2 года назад

@@jromtb Mam pytanie odnośnie Garbaruka. Może bedziesz wiedział. Potrzebuję (prawdopodobnie) tarczy GXP/DUB MTB (BOOST) Jest podana informacja, że tarcza jest kompatybilna z łańcuchami SRAM i Shimano 12s. Tarcze np Absoluteblack mogą być kompatybilne albo ze SRAM albo z Shimano HG+. Ale nie dwie możliwości jednocześnie. Jak więc Garbaruk to łączy? Wg mnie musi iść na jakieś kompromisy w tym wypadku. Będę wdzięczny za odpowiedź.

@saavichisays Год назад

ok, how about this. I have Shimano set up, but I want to run a SRAM eagle 12s cass with AXS is there a shimano adapter for 110 BCD 4 bolt to Sram 12s chainring? I know SRAM has one that converts to Shimano. having to buy a new BB, chainrings or FIND ONE!!! etc etc rn are just a bit tasky Id rather have a remedy for the time being.

@LoveMTB Год назад

DId you see this: - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_V83_bMeHgQ.html No need for a new chainring.

@iljaborodkin6503 2 года назад

I use XT allaround with absolute black oval 36T. Swaped it from XT 34T with no chain extention. Works for 2 years ok. Plan is at some point to go to E13 9-50 but that requires also the change of rear hub :( to sram drum.

@iljaborodkin6503 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Sure!

@iljaborodkin6503 2 года назад

@@LoveMTB Thank you!

@iljaborodkin6503 2 года назад

Now I have to plan to switch to wireless xx1 as well :))))

@MrHardcoreBS 4 месяца назад

Hello , Is Shimano 2x12s FC610 chainring, compatible with 1x12 cranks , BCD 96mm M7000. I need that info .

@jandzacovsky5281 Год назад

Hello, I had Shimano XT 2x12, now I am installing AXS GX and XX1 chainring with praxxis cranks. Can I use SRAM chain with Shimano 12spd XT cassete?

@MyBikeLife 4 месяца назад

What about chains and cassettes? Is Sram Eagle 12sp chain compatible with shimano 7100 cassette?

@LoveMTB 4 месяца назад

I have videos of mixed drivetrains take a look at those, here's one - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g4l_O1qtJ8I.html

@eduardosepulvedaherrera6669 Год назад

Necesito saber si la corona sram es compatible con la cadena shimano

@BobCounts 2 года назад

Excellent video. I'm not entirely clear and have a question on going from SRAM 1x11 to Eagle 1x12. I have a elliptical Wolftooth chaingring (38, 110 BCD) with 11-41 SRAM cassette and SRAM Apex Derailleur. I am thinking about moving to a 12 speed cassette and derailleur but wondering if I should change out the chainring also (and I know I have to change lots of things), I'm only thinking about the chainring here. Thank you.

@user-zu4nl7bm9e Год назад

On sram pages said the XPLR cassette is only compatibale with flattop chain, why that? I'm planning to use a 10 s old crank with 12s shimano chain & RD on XPLR cassette, hoping it works.

@PresiMinchev 2 года назад

Great info, just what i was looking for. I am going 12 speed with 11 speed 1x xtr m9000 crank and AB oval 32 chainring. kinda worried about the uncompatibility. Soon will see how it goes. Really dont want to change the crank and chainring.

@YaddaYaddaDa 2 года назад

How did this work out for you? I have a similar set up with the xtr m9020 crank, 12 speed cassette, AB oval chainring and a 12 speed KMC chain and the chain does not sit flush on the chainring. I'm trying to figure out if my problem is the chain or chainring

@YaddaYaddaDa 2 года назад

Nvm the quicklink wasn't locked in it works fine now lol

@PresiMinchev 2 года назад

@@YaddaYaddaDa Works prefect with shimano SLX chain. XT 12 speed ist fantastish!! BTW had a used once XTR chain and tried it - made terrible problems, broke several times due to difference in chain tool and pins i guess

@All_the_bikes_are_cool 2 года назад

Thank you... Another great video... 😊

@francoisrdt 2 года назад

Excellent, thanks! Any input regarding the quality of Work Components chainrings?

@sheen675 2 года назад

On my bike I had chainring from E13 but I´ve switched to oval from Garbaruk :) but E13 is pretty good.

@brendaleetv 2 года назад

I have replaced the chain of a Sram Eagle 12 speed OEM, to a KMC compatible 12 speed chain, cut to the same lenght and it never seems to shift properly. I then bought a Sram 12 speed chain for the Eagle 12 speed and no issues. My question is: do I have to use a Sram Eagle chain for the Sram Eagle 12 set? I did this to, two other bikes and same thing. Once I got the Sram Eagle chains for both, never had issues.!??

@nendinosaurus 9 месяцев назад

So I can keep my 11 speed crank and chainring when using a sram 12 speed chain?

@LoveMTB 9 месяцев назад

Yes no problem

@ToddNZMTB 2 года назад

Interesting I think I'll swap my Shimano and SRAM quick links around, every now and then I'll get a really loud click and I think this might be the cause.

@GokkunGuru 2 года назад

There’s one guy on RU-vid who’s taking the fixing bolts from XX1 to install onto the GX RD to improve tight tolerances between the RD and hanger. I’m not sure if this would benefit AXS since the GX AXS RD fixing bolts are almost identical to the ones on XX1 AXS.

@aneczka2114 2 года назад

Using 12 speed garbaruk 32 tooth oval chain ring on both my bikes

@ikariku 2 года назад

NIce video. Thanks for the info!

@christophj3014 2 года назад

I approve of this video

@jackwrademaker7430 Год назад

I dropt the shimano and sram chains a longtime . I run only KMC

@jackwrademaker7430 Год назад

No I don't care about hyperglide, but the system works flawless with kmc chain. And KMC chains outlast shimano and Sram

@keithglennb.sabbunjr.224 Год назад

I got a question. Can you use the m5100 stock chainring (1x) on the m6100 chain?

@jamble7k Месяц назад

do you think 10sp chain would work with a shimano 12sp chanring? wanting to put a saint derailleur and small 10sp cassette on my enduro bike for some chairlift adventures 😅 save smashing my xtr derailleur up

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

@@jamble7k will work ok but what chainring? The ones for HG+ might not hold that chain as well. Chain guide?

@jamble7k Месяц назад

@@LoveMTB was looking at aftermarket shimano chainrings as it's probably better wear wise, lots of them say 10/11/12 compatible but not sure about retention as you say

@LoveMTB Месяц назад

@@jamble7klook for SRAM chainrings for Shimano cranks teeth are a bit wider/ thicker

@woduk 2 года назад

Great video as always. Have you used any other 12speed chains kmc etc. I’m behind still on 11speed and only use kmc chains at the minute found them to last longer on my setup

@WildMidwest1 2 года назад

I use only KMC 12 speed chains with my SRAM GX Eagle drivetrain and they work perfectly. I just bought a KMC XO1 grade chain but I haven’t used it yet… nothing wrong with my regular grade chains. Like SRAM, KMC is manufactured in Taiwan. This for me is a positive.

@WildMidwest1 2 года назад

PS, if I had a fully functioning 11 speed system I would not be looking to switch to 12. Even with steep terrain where I struggle not to loop out, I seldom use my 52 tooth cog.