13 REASONS WHY: From Bad to Terrible 

Omg....true 😂

Steiner El Magnifico He looks 20

HAJIHSSJHDHD LMAO STOP

He is 18 or 19 :p

Shazza i mean, you're not *wrong*

So Hannah was a Karen?

@@Xehanort10 If yes, then Clay's true name is Kyle

That means Hannah’s mum was a Karen.

I mean, if there is a person with Karen hair, then usually everyone else around suffers trauma.

@@Xehanort10 no, Hannah was a Becky, because Beckys are usually the daughters of Karens

Season 2 it's a mistake.

The book was also a mistake

10 reasons why

13 Seasons later.... It’s still a mistake.

Yet you'll still watch it just to have a whinge afterwards lol No thought of avoiding the show all together. Better watch it just so you can join in with the rest of the sheltered kids in bashing it Lmaooooo

Lauren Bennett SAME

Me too

Honestly

Tbh

I’m only excited to see Pretty Much It react to it lmao

@Kairo Chambers seriously?

@@JadaSnacks yep, but a part of me would love it

Ghost Hannah: Clayyyyyyy. You left me and I've come to haunt you.

So basically unfriended

Cole Kalenak as someone who attends a foreign equivalent of high school, Community is the closest show to my everyday life...

Same

THE OFFICE IS THE BEST HELL YEAH

Just wait until you get an actual office job. That show is spot on man

YES.

the fact that netflix keep canceling good shows and producing mediocre ones says a lot

Or that it's popular and actually has an audience?

no offense but they cancelled fucking shadowhunters. imagine that shit being cancelled while 13 rw isn't? they're both literally garbage yet 13 rw gets to have a renewal. netflix is always about money and i'm mad tbh esp they cancelled sense8 lmao

It's all about ratings and viewership. 13rw is giving them buzz, makes sense that they would continue it, from a TV standpoint, all opinions on other "failed" shows pushed aside.

its definitely just about money. i'm pretty sure its their most viewed original show. :/

#13ReasonsWhy is likely the best and greatest TV show based on high school reality in regards what many teen students suffer around the country (and other countries world wide [just do some research]). Or, simply one of the greatest and best TV show of all time. The only reason why it got a lot of backlash, is due to Selena Gomez' being part of the show. We know that the Spanish name is hardly tolerated in this country, but the Mexican name/background even less. 13 Reasons Why, for those who ACTUALLY care for others who suffer the multiple types of harassment in at school, has given the world an educated way at looking at these matters. It has given attention for them for open discussion, when such things were/are being ignored. Bullying, rape, violence, etc., are part of some peoples lives as jr. high through college students, and without a strong voice to be heard world wide, it would keep being put on a shelf and let criminals get away with such crimes and the victims will keep suffering since the victims tend to be the seeming weakest. The ones who join the backlash movement on anything, are the ones who want chaos and crime to keep happening to others. They come out as "social" media police when its convenient for them, when it suits their biases and prejudices, when it happens to only those they identify with. I guarantee had Selena's name not been in it, the show would have been LOVED by the great and overwhelming majority, it would have even likely won various Emmys. Thankfully, there still remains on this planet some, which can be many, who are loyal to honesty and reality, and we know 13 Reasons Why to be a very, very good show. This show demands attention. It demands intellect from viewers. It provides intellect to viewers. It provides the real deal and raw deplorable circumstances many such aged-students live through. Yet, the ones speaking out against the show, are the ones who show they really and actually don't care, and what they do care about is they would have wanted someone else other than Selena being part of the production. They instead make information for those who suffer more difficult to access. It helps make those who suffer less likely to seek help. It helps schools be less likely to take action against the criminals.

Markus E I genuinly hope this is a copypasta

Markus E Uhh what

Markus E Is this a joke?

@marcus BULL SHIT

The show takes itself so seriously it's like an unintentional comedy.

Yeah, this guy has fantastic dry humour.

It reminds me of a line from Secondhand Lions, which is in part an actual comedy: “Terrorizin’ doctors and nurses, beatin’ up teenagers, chasin’ after lions… you’ve had a full day.”

especially having to see the rapist character in the show having really graphic long sex like that's something entertaining

Because the audience consists mostly of teenagers, thus they show hot teens... I guess.

A Suspicious Avocado not an excuse for showing minor characters like this

It’s not child pornography, but it’s morally tantamount

Ussishkin Gang they arent minors though. and so what ?

Wonder_9 sasame is actually good

Wonder_9 lmao

Wonder_9 LMAO

Wow how dare you compare it with sesame street? At least sesame street gives a clear message and you come out of it with a wholesome message, unlike some "woker shows" *ehem this one*

Sesame Street had better writers.

by the way, Netflix released a "behind the scenes" or something like that (the same kind of stuff they did with stranger things) where they invited a psychologist and she's discussing some topics with one of the writers and directors of the show. She literally said that what clay did at the end was WRONG. She said people should just call the police in this situation instead of risking their lives. I can definitely see young teenagers trying to emulate Clay because he's presented like a hero in this scene and getting themselves killed as a result. It's just one of the many things that the show gets wrong about the topics it's trying to present. It advocates the exact opposite of what should be done because the writers and just fucking everyone involved in the making of this garbage show are too lazy to google this shit. GOD!

Eli N.S yeah I heard about that. It is actually hilarious since I am sure they had people saying do not write that shit into the show and the writers just ignored it because they think they are making some amazing PSA show. Like dudes, you aren't. You are writing shit. It's like no one on the writing staff has dealt with mental illness, sexual trauma, bullying, or even remembers what high school was like. Still can't believe it was greenlit for a 3rd season.

*+Angelisa Hassan* Well, there's always a thing called "exception". However, for the majority of time, this act will result in death. If you're stuck in a room with the shooter, then talking IS THE ONLY OPTION, so it's not stupid to try it. If you're not, you shouldn't just run into them in order to try to make them stop *by the powah of luv.* You should get out of the school before they catch you and call the police.

The pregnancy thing is gonna be handled so poorly, you can just tell from this shitty season's handling of topics, it's gonna be painful to watch, bet on it.

*+Angelisa Hassan* Hah, funny how you answered me just as I entered RU-vid. *Answer:* If it's a matter of life and death, then yes. You should do what is _more likely_ to work. No tactic works 100% of the time, but lowering the chances of risking your AND OTHER PEOPLE'S lives is the correct thing to do.

Season 7: everything goes back to normal, turns out it was all fanfiction written by Clay

@@shanegrele I would like that

season 18: Bryce never raped anyone and every single male character comes out as gay, even Chadly Chad III

i am using chad ironically Chads dont exist but you my good sir are a chad

Steven Burnley I've been looking for a comment like this just so I can agree with it. He's hecka cute.

Too true.

If he got rid of that bush on his upper lip he’d legit look like Nick Jonas

No No No, That's Not It Nah his scruff is sexy.

I disagree, his lips don't fit his face and his mustache is gross but he seems like a nice guy

so true

me_irl

Danielle Kessler same

Doing the same thing here. Watched only commentaries of it and one of them showed some parts of the mop rape scene. I triggered myself. Fuck this show xD

moooooooood

Ayo P FORREAL

So juicy lewking

+

bukakke, most likely

Petition for Taylor to become a beauty guru on the side until the 3rd season comes out.

IT'S SO FUCKING UGLY!

Its so bad they even did the poster shit.

at first I thought Hannah was making a weird face, pulling her lip up

All this time I thought Cley’s name was spelled Clay. Even auto correct said Clay.

I know nothing about graphic design, but couldn't they have just taken the two shots, lined them up, and then put the Polaroid border on after? It seems pretty easy.

Zombie Killer season 4 will be messages by carrier pigeons

Hekto Shmekto Season 5 Morse code. Season 6 Ouija Board.

Season 7: pagers.

Season 8: Mail Letters

Lazer discs! Records! Fireside chats! :-D

But there can only be one drug addict in a teen drama.

I really like this show but yes I wasn't super into the hallucination thing.

The problem with that is then people will complain that the drug doesn't have that effect

hon bun which it doesn't and would be rather dumb. No dumber than it already is in the show, but still dumb.

Then *where the hell would* our poor,poor little Clay-boy even GET these/this magical-"Holy sh%t,I can see my dead-classmate/fake-friend right about effin'-NOW..am I frigging trippin' now,bro..?"-drugs from,huh..? How 13reasons gone explaining that,silly dudes..? (Just kidding,eh..??!!)

It kind of was. Realistically, it wouldn't happen.

Reflex yeah, I also what have told the adults because if he couldn’t talk Tyler down a lot of people who died and it would have been partially his fault.

After the outbreaks of shootings in schools, I don't think any show will even present that to the viewers, whether "realistic" or not. The producers would get bashed even more.

LOVE OF PLANTS 🌻 no fucking way would parents settle in real life. Not unless they were just looking for money, which was not the case of Hannah's parents, or her mom more so. She was looking to hold the school accountable. A settlement does not provide that.

Yeah, I was kind of actually upset that Tyler didn’t follow through with the mass shooting. The show made all the characters look so absurdly aggressive that I actually was aggravated he didn’t at least kill Monty. Not to mention someone sending warnings, gearing up, and loading a car full of ammunition seemed like someone who was too far gone to let someone just talk him down.

Fedora Guy is my waifu

Also a girl did the almost same thing with notes noting 6 reasons why she killed herself after seeing the show. So.... Yeah...

Also, school shooters are mentally unstable sociopaths, not relatively normal kids who get sodomized with a broom one too many times.

You can tell by his Star Wars poster.

So I was the only one turned on by that? Shit...

(seriously though that scene was fuckin stoopid)

Trying to rival big mouth for most erections in a Netflix show, eh 13RW?

It’s hard for you to watch?

No show will have as much bare erections as Basebrawl and Peivate Partners!!!! XD

Did they really do that? What was the thinking there? "Alright we've just done a scene where a guy gets beaten up in a bathroom, nearly drowned in a toilet then sodomised with a mop? Cut to 2 blokes kissing now."

Hahaha. You are a fool. Everyones acting was outstanding.

+Markus E hahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha

Looks like tween nation is trying to attack me

@@markuse3472 You've never seen outstanding acting if you think the acting in this was then.

@@Xehanort10 Outstanding in relation to other teen shows and young adult dramas: this was outstanding acting and overall if not total amazing production. You'll be better off keep watching the kardashians since you don't like Good TV.

👁🌊 what U did there

Hummmm

hehehe

Show is a joke this

:D looool

To be honest, it's pretty consistent for her. Hannah's always been a big hypocrite who doesn't take pretty much anyone else's feelings into account. Shes abrasive. The kind of person to be into clean bandit, but hate on other people for liking clean bandit and calling them hipsters.

The worst side effect is how many people will say the movie is shit without actually seeing it. THANKS 13 REASONS WHY!!

cami This guy copied this from one of the black frames that appears for a moment. Not his words, but the uploaders.

Yeah I know I've been out of internet range for the past couple if days. It's all Taylor's words not mine.

Well with Hannah saying that you can yawn to pretentious people about 2001, you can also yawn when the fans of 13 reasons why start talking about it.

slimkt I must say, your comment is just so adorable! 😄 ❤

I JUST commented that :D

slimkt i was just about to comment that his skin is GLOWING

Yup. He is super cute. 'Totally unfair', cries my very, very rational mind.

slimkt forgot to put in no homo

oh and i hated what they did with all the poc characters. every one of them except tony and jessica had such minor parts it seemed they didn’t exist

Deborah Wey Maybe cause there weren’t that many poc

Deborah Wey we really gotta stop adults from making shows about teens 🤦🏽‍♀️

I love how they show multiple scenes of characters smoking heroin, but cigarettes are too far

By whining and being stereotypical

Susana Chávez hahaha so true. We want to like it, we find characters we sort of like, but in the end, it’s shit.

Legit dry heaved when I first saw it in a commentary. They did give the warning before hand but I just wasn't expecting THAT.

REDinitial SAMEEEE I WAS WATCHING A COMMENTARY AND THEY JUST JUMPED INTO IT

word

Shiitt........

An archer uses a bow

I don't think theyve outright condoned child murder yet, thats something. Im sure they will at some point though.

Insufferable Know-It-All they definitely will... just wait

+kekmeup Oh my _GOD._ Not many things personally offend me to an enraging level? Autism Speaks does. They’re more like Autism Speaks And We Shouldn’t Let It.

Tom Exists they did, along with some throwing shade at cartoonish pro-lifers

Yeah it does

They portray him as being in love with her but he's actually just obsessed with her.

I mean, it's pretty realistic immature teenage entitlement. It's probably the only realistic thing concerning any of these 'teenagers'

I had no idea he worked on Next to Normal. I love that musical! It's so sad thinking about him going from that to...this.

@@booktales1687 I think he's doing it for money tbh

@@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821 if that's true, it's sad to see people are willing to through away all integrity for money

@@booktales1687 money reveals our most true of selves

Vítor Medeiros lmao what's the original video called ?

Caprisun Nerd It really doesn’t.

Blade Runner it really does tho

When a show about a talking horse portrays mental illness better than a show with real people in it that just shows 13RW's bad writing.

I’m late but this is kind of a bad take. I feel like Bojack kind of romanticizes mental illness a bit. If you want a good form of media that portrays mental illness well check out the musical Next to Normal

@@benmakesmovies49 I don't think Stupid Piece of Shit, The View from Halfway Down, Bad Damage or Downer Ending give any romanticism to mental illness. In fact BoJack repeatedly goes out of its way to show how shit mental illness and addiction and trauma is and shows the consequences of people's actions when they self destruct. Then they explicitly show Diane going through depression, ditching her meds because she thinks it'll be better for her "process" then show that that's a bad decision and that her meds were helping and preventing her from feeling as shit as she had for 5 seasons beforehand.

Are you serious? My classmates spend time hating bad characters.

yeah we hated the characters too, but i think it was the graphic content that really made people depressed. This girl in one of my classes was so traumatized by it she spent 2 week in the guidance office. The only awareness this show brought us is how aware we've become on how easy it is to kill ourselves when life get difficult.

You might think it's easy, but you'd find out sooner or later it's actually not. Survival instinct can be a biiiiiiitch.

oh yeah weird, that's exactly what my friend said. she had called me a bit after finishing s1 and i noticed that her mood was really down so i asked her why and she said that 13 reasons why was really graphic in its portrayal of suicide and rape. she said it put her in a really bad mood.

yeah I felt like hella shitty for like a week after finished s1. Definitely did not have a positive effect on my mental health

Muhammad Faar 2 different seasons of sports

Muhammad Faar a lot of people play more than one sport in school

Yes yes you are

facts lmao she ain't slick

Self pity oozes through all the characters on the show.

hey remember #Metoo? Woke gotta woke

The vast majority of women will be sexually harrassed or assaulted at some point in their lives, dude.

Insufferable Know-It-All evidence ?

Insufferable Know-It-All Well that's just not true at all, and that's a very damaging thing to make anybody believe

Rocketsnail1000 it is actually pretty damn true. All my female friends have been sexually harassed or assaulted at some point, as have I. Regardless, that scene was just kind of random and clunky. Came out of nowhere and left me hella confused for a minute.

Facts I don’t understand

I was able to pause it on the text on my first try!! XD Yay being on a computer... and being lucky this time lol. 26:56 too.

For posterity: the < and > keys rewind/forward the video frame by frame.

gaby most parts aren’t realistic. The dialogue is insufferable, the suicide aspect is horribly romanticized. No teenagers talk like this. Bullying is rarely, if ever this bad (at least what I’ve seen). Yes, the acting is good, the production is good, but that’s about it.

Theres fucking kids being raped with brooms, school shooting, rape, drug addicts, suicides, kids dyig in car accidents, tons of fights, kids with guns. Wtf. And this is apparently all happening to kids in same grade in the same school. Just one of these events would be incredibly rare in a school, but according to this show this sort of major shit happens every week.

Give me the name of a TV show or movie you have found totally "realistic", and then I will humble you and your opinion with intellect.

Markus E that wasn’t totally my point. I meant to say that not all of these things could happen at one school and to the same group of people.

It's just so boring, couldn't do it.

Alexandria Olive why

John Caral because it’s so blunt

Lost Goth God never existed so that's the reason why we're getting season 3

"God's not dead he's surely alive."

Luna's Peridot don't remind me of that movie.

Luna's Peridot why the hell would you reference that movie

Lost Goth I wasn’t to happy about season 2 but they’re really thinking of a number 3? They should’ve just ended at season 2 because of Hannah’s trial and getting justice.

_LETS PUT A STOP TO THIS_

I just heard a criticism of Ladybird today and now I'm tempted to see what sounds like a kinda bad movie... I'd love his perspective on it as well!

luvtheheaven5 Personally I adore "Ladybird" because I find it relatable, but I can understand why someone could dislike it because it heavily relies on tropes. That being said I feel alot of teens try to ascribe to cliches as they find themselves. So while nothing special happens I feel the honesty of the portrayal is what makes "Ladybird" special. I feel it's the female renaissance of "Boyhood".

:)

Peta Lynch don’t worry he is actually smart and he knows what he’s talking about

TheSingingBUn but does it really?

TheSingingBUn No. No. Both are extremely awful and really appeal to the same demographic, hipster teens who are out of touch with reality with an incredibly flawed understanding of teenagers

Cinema Reviews True that. but 13 reasons makes Life is strange look tame... (been a while since I touched on Life is strange so my memory might serve as part of the flaw in my judgement)

TheSingingBUn Just watch E;R’s video on the videogame

TheSingingBUn Hella no.