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Max Tech - Have you had the chance to review the Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 and if so what do you think of the speakers on that compared to a new mac book pro?
@@JeanLucConnery no, because both in the test above have faster ssd (1TB), so it’s not limiting any of the machines. I wonder how does 30 cores 14” work compared to 38 in the same tests. I wonder if it is the sweet spot between power and price again..
Why aren't we using the same charging solution on both if were doing identical tests? They both need to be on usb c or both on magsafe for it to be accurate.
Honestly the 14" being more portable is handy for a lot of things. While I agree the 16" screen is fantastic, I think the 14" would still suit 95% of what I would want to do
It would be interesting to see a comparison between the high end 14" with the low or mid range as well. That way we know how much faster the Max really is. Some of us could skip the CPU upgrade and save ourselves some cash while still claiming portability.
Did you think the 14” was not going to throttle as much? I mean for the $200, this is the obvious choice for power and screen real estate. I love the portability of the 14” but other than that your comment makes me wonder why you were waiting for this video? We’ve all basically known what was going to happen if you’ve watched the other videos about the M2 chips.
Great testing as always. I don't agree with the outcome though...the 14" M2 Max is still the faster than the 14" M2 Pro for the development due to the memory bandwidth and if you want a 14" form factor and do some gaming, the 14" M2 Max is still going to do better than the 14" M2 Pro
Note: ALL of the temp issues are completely resolved with a simple custom fan curve as apples stock one is extremely lazy. The only real difference at that point is clock speed which will have you see basically a 5% or less difference between the 2. Enough to where most people won’t care. That said the 16” is still much more comfortable with temps on the keyboard in use, still has the better battery by a LOT this year, speakers etc but most people out there still love the 14” through and through because it’s the perfect size for everyday use and the 16” still feels unwieldy. Another thing to note here is that both of these completely destroy the M1 Max 32-core gpu models (even the binned 30-core beats it by a margin) so it’s all gains this year regardless. Just be sure to get TG pro and set better more active fan curves up and your golden. (Anything below 60% fan speed is almost not audible).
Thanks will try that when receive it. I needed max model for encoders and light gaming when on train or smth (but still need 14 inch i dont care about 16 inch one)
Wonder if the store bought 14” max with 30 core instead of 38 core has the same throttling issue? Maybe apple configured it that way as the sweet spot for that size notebook?
This is the video I was waiting for!! I just ended up getting the 16” M2 Max MacBook with 64GB of RAM and 4TB of storage. The great thing is that this video validated my reasoning for getting the 16” over the 14”. I’m super excited to get the computer as I’m upgrading from a 2009 MacBook Pro 13”. 💻 Thanks to MaxTech, for all the help. ❤
@@JonathanJK I know, and my excitement can’t be contained. I was super excited just seeing other people getting their, as well as those that have the M1 versions. It’s going to up my productivity by a long shot.
Hey friend can you please tell me that how long you got security patch update on your old MacBook pro 13 2009, because I also thinking to purchasing a MacBook but haven't owned yet.
@@NinjaKiller1022 I had a 2012 rMBP die on me and went with a 2017 iMac and then bought the M1 Air. That machine was already crazy faster than the iMac, but I upgraded to the M1 Pro for the extra ports and screen. I love this machine and can't imagine the speed boost you're going to get!
@@JonathanJK I was really tempted to get the M1 Max Pro, but decided to hold out just a little longer. I still think the M1 variants are extremely capable. I will definitely update you when I get mine next week.
It could be interesting to see what happens if the fan profile is manually modified to be way more aggressive (as you can do with the Mac Fans Control software). I wouldn't be surprised that the type of people that would be running the tasks where these machines throttle, specially the 14", wouldn't mind having the fan noise kicking in harder and sooner. Perhaps maintaining that max speed continuously since the beginning could help out reduce that aggressive throttling, especially in the 14".
That's what I said when I got my 15" 3900 desktop cpu laptop, until I can hear it in screaming in the next room over and that's just 3000 rpm but 6300 rpm sounds more like a server
@@theyehsohz Fair enough! I was talking from experience using my M1Pro 14", as even when its fans are maxed out, they sound almost as much as my old windows machine being idle.
@@theyehsohz I meant that they are very quiet in the Mac! They sound less when they are maxed out than any high performance windows machine I've used with their fans at min speed. @lukemiani just made a comparison between a maxed out M2 Max 16" and the incredible MSI Rider with the 4090, and he included a brief sound comparison of them when their fans are maxed out. Huge difference in noise levels.
I knew that 14 inch is throttling like crazy, but I ordered M1 Pro for work anyway, because I don’t use GPU much. Yesterday I spend a whole day compiling things, but a fan barely spins anyway.
I feel like them not using the same power source might have something to do with it. If the 14 isn't on magsafe and is on usb the test showing it having a different wattage might actually be due to the fact it's being charged over usb c and not the same as the 16.
Another highly detailed, information-rich video. You guys are really putting in the hours! Don't know about calming down - it does speak of authenticity! I personally think the 16" is worth a lot more than $200 over the 14" (though both are very expensive). If your main computer is a laptop, 16" is the way to go.
I saw this same sort of results last year. It's the high power mode in the 16 inch that that makes the difference, high power mode isn't available for the 14 inch. At first I thought it was about the fan noise but I was wrong. I saw the same sort of results when I bought the 14 inch M1 Max last year and sent it back to get a 16. The High Power mode option is more than just an aggressive fan curve, it allows the Max chip to get almost 10 more watts of power. That is why the 16 inch comes with a 140 watt power brick vs 96 watt for the 14 inch, this is also relative to the battery capacity as well. So if pure performance is what you are looking for the 16 inch is the very beat options. So the extra cost is more than just screen size its also higher power and better thermals.
I would configure my 14 inch to M2 Mac BUT only 30 gpu cores instead of 38. 32gb ram and 1tb ssd, and to upgrade from the 67w charger to the 96w charger
So now I'm curious.... 14" pro vs 14" max w/ same specs otherwise. How much benefit would the max give, if at all? It only ends up being like $200 diff at the higher tiers. 16" not in the cards for me, I don't want a giant laptop.
Exactly its absolutely useless to buy 12 core 19 as it isnt that different in price of max. Its like cheap gpu core for 170-200 usd. I also read 12 19 and 12 30 is almost same in terms pf throtling, judt that 10 core one is less throtling but then you loose some other good stuff. I think you just have to let fan run faster and that is all
I have the mid tier 14 in and choose it over the 16 in base model due to portability, having a 16 in is like having an additional responsibility everywhere you go, the 14in is like a cool buddy that helps you at work, life, and get the girl.
Is it the you have the 14" on USB-C for power and the 16" on Magsafe for power? Could that make any difference, especially because the 14" had a hard time to pull power?
I was a bit confused here… was High Power Mode turned on for all the 16" tests? Also, did you guys let the computers cool down between tests? I see the stress test started around 12:11 PM, and the Blender BMW test was performed at 12:35 PM. Considering they were tied in the second Blender test, I was wondering if the 14" was still too warm when you ran the first one.
Can anyone tell me something about the throttling thing with the 14" M2 Max with only 30 GPU cores? Same problem? I don't want the 16" because of the mobility. Maybe I am going for the M2 Pro in a 14" if even the smaller M2 Max is throttling because of the heat!
Good question, I'm wondering how much faster M2 Max 14" is compared to M2 Pro 14". I don't really care if 14" is 20% slower than 16" unless Max 14" is slower than Pro 14" due to throttling then we have a huge problem as it then starts to smell of a scam...
Typing this on my 14" M2 max 30 core GPU (32gb ram, 1TB SSD). I haven't had any issues or noticed performance drops. I can have Xcode running simulator, VScode, and safari with RU-vid no issues. Will probably be getting the M3 14 inch next year and further proof it too. 64GB ram and 4TB SSD maybe? ;)
I’m not sure if anyone of you’ve noticed but 16 inch is charging vs 14 inch is not (15:24) you can clearly see that 14 inch is connected to usb c. When connected to the charger, the laptop has a stable and continuous power source, allowing it to potentially deliver higher performance for more demanding tasks. For the best performance, especially during resource-intensive tasks, it's generally advisable to use your MacBook Pro while connected to the charger. Well it’s not an honest review. Seeing that weird white capable connected to 14 inch laptop makes me think that he wanted to create an illusion they both being charged.
Great Video, Request…. Can you perform the same type tests and stress tests and “Compare” the Results for especially the 14” 2021 M1 Max, but also the 16” 2021 Max and show us the difference. This could help many Consumers make an informed decision, albeit purchase 2021 M1 Max, 2023 M2 Max or wait for M3 Max upgrade.
Understood, but first whose going to look 2yrs back through their channel with all the content they put out, plus they advise and help their subscribers and consumers decide on whether to hold off for the M3 or purchase the discounted M1, so it addresses everyone whom are interested that their advising, and yes, more views and subscribers for their channel as well 👍 win/win
@spacecadet, the intent was merely requesting and/or suggesting on behalf of those interested, for a data set comparison, if the guys want to edit some slides showing the Comparison Data Sets for one of their Purchase Recommendations future videos, that would be Appreciated, if not no worries and then just food for thought going forward. It was simply a “request”, nothing more. Thank you for your valuable time to point out constructive criticism. Have a Blessed Day🙏
Tbh it's unlikely to hit both CPU and GPU at full load simultaneously in most workflows. The 14 inch is still gonna run hotter but it's just fine. I have the 14 with 30 GPU cores and the performance is shockingly similar to the 16 inch 38 core version.
On 14” the mid-size M1 Max was clocked faster than the biggest M1 Max, is M2 Max the same? Helpful to find out which model 14” is fastest because less throttling
IMHO, the best configuration of the 14” is the M2 pro. It’s nice that Apple gives you the option to have more portability with the same hardware but if you truly need the performance of the M2 Max, you are better served with the 16.”
Its not best financially unless you buy binned one with 1tb. If you opt for 32 gb ram its just a few pennies to get max chip with two encoders and better graphics. Also its better resselability as it max will always sound better than pro and people associate max with 3k price while pro with 2k
Would that 30c M2 MAX or M2 Pro is sweeter spot for 14” MBP? Cause 38c cost you extra $400 , this could give you extra 32G ram or 1TB SSD which is way much practical for most people
I think you're mising the point sometimes. Everything isn't power and specs. Sometimes the 14 is better than the 16 because the 16 may be to big and bulky to lug around and use on a bus or train. Or you just want a 14 because it has a better form factor.
Thank you for the detailed comparison . My work computer is a 14" ThinkPad, and I find that it's too small for me. I can understand the appeal for people that travel frequently, but I think the 16" is a better value. The performance differences alone make it worth going for the larger one in my opinion. Then when you consider the larger screen, better speakers and longer battery life, it is easily worth $200 more.
@nabillibre922 dunno, after I posted this I bought the 32c M2 Max 14” and think there’s no harm in getting the 38 if you can pay for it. I thought it would roast. Instead, the fan barely comes on. In Metro LL Redux on medium (there’s no visual difference after medium) it’s generally around 120fps and the fans take like 5 mins to come on and they sit at their minimum speed. Observation through parallels is around 90+ fps and the fans sit at about 50%. Go the better one if you want to.
@@theoneonly5368 You might want to look that up. India seems to have almost twice as many YT users in general… the Max Tech audience might differ, ofc.
What about the 14 inch MacBook Pro M2 Max with 30 core GPU? maybe it is better than 38 core GPU in terms of thermal throttling and performance. It could be a better choice for those who want to do 3D drawing or video editing and at the same time don't sacrifice portability. M2 Pro is not enough for this work. Better screen and better speaker in the 16 inch is not that important, because most of us work with monitors and have speakers at home. Outside no one uses speaker it is annoying, almost everyone uses their AirPods. 2 hours more battery life in 16 inch is also not a big difference compared to the 14 inch. Have you done a test with 14 inch M2 max with 30 Core GPU?
I literally looking at it for two reasons: better utilise hdmi 2.1 as 30 gpu is probably more than enough to max out for editing and similar stuff on 4k 144 monitor and those amazing codecs for editing on the go
I suspect that most people won’t be able to detect a difference in performance between the two. Still, these benchmarks might suggest that the sweet spot for MacBook Pro 14” Max chip has 30 cores, rather than 38. That saves another £200 GBP, or I guess $200 USD.
NEED HELP 16” LATE 2022 M1MAX. I can’t find any info anywhere. I’ve looked for manuals. Just gonna ask already. Does the m1max charge through both usb-c ports or just one on the left side. I just found out one of my left ports won’t charge the laptop and I need to know if that’s broke cause I’ll get it fixed under warranty. Thank you if you help 🙏🏻
Yes guy’s… I’ve just ordered: 16-inch MacBook Pro - Space Gray With the following configuration: Apple M2 Max with 12‑core CPU, 38‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine 96GB unified memory 140W USB-C Power Adapter 4TB SSD storage Three Thunderbolt 4 ports, HDMI port, SDXC card slot, headphone jack, MagSafe 3 port INPUT 065-CDPG Touch ID 16-inch Liquid Retina XDR display² MOUSE AND TRACKPAD 065-CDPD Force Touch Trackpad PRO APPS BUNDLE FOR EDU 065-CDTT NO PRO APPS PREINSTALLED Final Cut Pro SW LOGIC PRO 065-CDTY NO LOGIC PRO PREINSTALLED Backlit Magic Keyboard with Touch ID - US English Accessory Kit AppleCare+ for 16‑inch MacBook Pro (M2) I’ll report back when it arrives in a week!
That’s what I’m looking at. Best Buy has the 14” M2 with 30 gpu for $3100 and the 16” M2 with 38 gpu for $3500. Wondering, money wise, if just a 14” with 16gb ram would be enough for coding. The $3100 is a little bit much but the $3500 might be too much for me. Thinking maybe the 16” M1 Max with 32 ram might be better once it comes down some more in price. It’s $3300 right now.
@@noisetin I have the 13” M1 with 16 ram and 1 tb. Looking to get into maybe swift but I want a bigger screen. All of the reviews that I’ve seen are saying that the base 14” and 16” M2 models the SSD drives are too slow. Even max tech talked about this I think last week.
@@abdurrahmankhan129 Yes, absolutely but for coding I would advise you to get a discounted 14" or 16" M1 machine. You really don't need that much power.
Could you clarify which Power adapters AND cables you were using for these tests? You have used MagSafe on the 16" and USB-C on the 14" which on its own already semi-invalidates your results. Which power brick? Did you use the 97W adapters came with the laptops? Also, that USB-C connector did not look like a genuine Apple USB-C cable to me. If it was an aftermarket cable, please post which model was it and its power rating as well and verify that it was able to deliver at least 60W. There is one major problem with your test. If the cable wasn't rated for high power then you were essentially starving the laptop. Some cheaper cables are only rated for 30W (some older Apple cables are also only rated for 29/30W) which might have happened here during your test. The entire package was suspiciously capped at 30W. I find it very hard to believe that Apple would intentionally cap total Package Power at 30W while both the GPU and CPU can pull around 35W each. I'd not say this was "Thermal Throttling" either because the 14" model stayed cooler by 10 degrees or so which should've been plenty of headroom to not throttle thermally. If you do similar tests in the future you should really use the same power brick/cable AND charging port on both devices as it could dramatically alter your test results.
I couldn’t wait in the end for this video and bought the 16” this weekend 😂 Happy with my choice but thanks for putting this video out, helps me sleep easier tonight with my choice 😁
How come the 14" is plugged in via magsafe, and the 16" is using type-c/ thunderbolt(?) port? I wonder if that makes a difference. I don't know the wattage limitations on either.
Is there any reason to get 38 core max over 30 core max as an advanced Premiere Pro/Lightroom user? I think I’d rather invest the cash into ram or storage 😅🤔🤔🤔👋🏽 Thanks!! 🙌🏽
Worth noting: the latent heat of the wooden desk and laptop chassis have a cumulative effect on the laptop internal temps. Letting the desk cool to ambient so it’s not radiating back at the laptops, and letting the laptops sleep and cool off (off the desk) between tests would make a big difference (benefitting the 14” and making their results more similar).
The chassis cools down very quickly. Also, there is a lot of time between testing that you don't see in the video. Sometimes 10 minutes could get cut out as I prepare the test, etc. In the video, it seems instant.
Basically, there’s no significant difference in performance IF you’re working with Lightroom or editing h.264 or HEVC videos. IF you’re working with Raw 4k, 8k or other tough codecs then it’s better to get the 16” due to better heat management which leads to less thermal throttling.
Seeing these computers in real life is wild! The 16" seems soo much larger, and the 14" seems tiny when seen side by side. I am curious about performance for my real-world workflow.
So, after seeing big differences between best cpu (M2 Max) on 14' and 16' MBP, I'm guessing as a safe bet only the base cpu M2 Pro will perform the same on both 14" and 16". As with the Pro CPU the "high performance" setting isn't available...
Beware of new 2023 MacBook Pro M2 Max’s that won’t charge with the supplied magsafe charger. I got a new “defective unit” on Jan 27th, 2023 and have yet to get Apple support to replace the unit, even though they admit it’s defective. Apple, if I said anything false, please sue me! It’s now Monday Feb 6th.
Could you compare which is worth between the M2 MacBook Air with 16GB Ram And 512GB storage with last years M1 Pro MacBook 14” refurbished? I think it will be an interesting comparison!
MAX TECH.... so I've never owned a laptop and haven't even used computers outside my galaxy phone. Im buying a new portable laptop to learn how to edit photography and video. I was buying the 14inch macbook pro m2 pro with 32gb ram with 12‑core CPU and 19‑core GPU 1TB SSD so will I have to worry about and of this thermal or throttling with learning to edit...... thanks for your help
I know apple is by some standards law forced to throttle when chassis is 50°C. That is why the 14" would be so extremely throttled. Maybe of the test is redone from startup directly into cinebench. But when the chassis is hot 🔥 the macbook pro needs to manage that. - so if you would push the ambient temperature of the 16" (ie after a big test) and then match them up this can be quite more balanced. - but ... like Max said, realistically it is not going to happen often irl
Hi, Hi, I am a typical PC user. However I may sometimes have to use graphic intensive apps or games in the future. I plan to buy the Macbook Pro 14 inch, not the 16 inch. i am planning on getting 32 GB RAM and 1TB SSD. Price is not an issue. I want to be future proof and I am really confused about the configuration. Should I go for 10 Core M2 Pro, 12 Core M2 pro, or Base M2 Max. I really want to get the M2 Max. But I have heard that it gets heated up and It doesn't have a good thermal management and battery life compared to M2 Pro. Would you be kind enough to provide some insight.
I want a 14inch as I don’t want to carry the heavy 16inch around. Looks like M2 Max on the 14inch is not good, but if I get the M2 Pro 14inch 1TB with 32gb, it’s only $200 less than getting the same but with M2 Max. Not sure which of I get if I want 32gb memory - M2 Max or M2 Pro? For 32gb memory 1TB drive is only 200$ difference. Thanks
The problem with this review is is 99% of the people don't buy 14" for thermals or to save $200 but for the smaller form factor. In my case I needed more than 32 GBs of memory so there was only one choice... At this point 16 GBs of RAM are not early enough in may professional scenarios and I can only assume M2 will carry me for the next 3-5 years and then even 32 GB might be a bit limiting so it will be much easier to resell 64/96 GB :)
I'm glad I didnt wait and got a used M1 Pro 16 1TB for 1600 a few months ago and it still had 99% battery capacity! I'm not upgrading until the M9 Pro in 2030!!!! Whats that gonna be a 1nm 24 core CPU with 128 core GPU? I dont care the M1 Pro does it all already!!!!!
Seems like high power mode is needed even more on the 14” than the 16”. There’s no technical reason that bursty tasks should be slower on the 14”, Apple can’t turbo at full power for brief periods like Intel does?
Hey. I found out what the problem is with the "performance issue" on the 14 inch and get the same perf as the 16 with the 100% cpu / gpu :) my tests (14' m2 max 64G) if that interrest someone..
So I bought a 14 inch m2 pro 32gb 1tb macbook but my store has just discounted the m2 max version with otherwise equal specs. Should I still avoid it or return my pro and swap it in for the extra media encoders (which I do use) and more display support?
I'd upgrade to the M2 Max, but get the 30-core variant instead of the full 38-core variant. If it's ANYTHING like the M1 Max, it'll throttle less with a couple less GPU cores.
@@jeremias3363 Yeah, it gives a pretty big boost to battery life, but I tend not to use it because it turns off 120 hz ProMotion on the display. It’s still adaptive to save battery but only goes up to 60 hz which seems like such a downgrade after being spoiled with 120 hz lol
I love my 2013 15" MBP. I've always said that, yes I'm paying a premium, but my MacBook has been faithful to me for a decade and is still great. What worries me about the M2s is that, even if I max out all the specs, I just can't do that. The SSDs they are using have a limited number of Terrabytes that they can write before they fail and there's no way of getting around it. The way that swap is used is like a variable speed fuse that's slowly leading to failure. Please, tell me that I'm wrong. I'd love to get a maxed-out Max and be happy for the next decade, but I'm doubting that it's possible.
Just buy it with more Ram so you don’t use any swap. Also the higher the TBs the more Read/Write capacity the SSD will have and also Apple runs Swap in tandem so to limit SSD degradation. I’m going for a 16 64gb or 96gb if Ram and a 4TB SSD. That should last at least 5+ years without issues. I also use a mid 2010 MacBook Pro 15.4 inch with an Intel i7, 8gb of Ram and 2TB Samsung SSD with an internal upgraded Bluray Rewritable Drive. Acquired it in 2014 and did the upgrades from 512gb standard drive and 2GB Ram. I tried to do 16GB but it wasn’t stable. It’s lasted me 9 faithful years and still going strong yet the dedicated graphics card became unstable and had to use a software to force the Intel integrated graphics to work instead on the dedicated one. Can’t do 2K/4K video edited only 1080p on Final Cut X. I would have not upgraded to the M2 Max 14 32gb 30gpu 1TB if it wasn’t for the video editing issue. I love my old machine and how I can upgrade the storage and add more storage in the cd drive that I use often since I still buy CDs and Blurays. Hopefully I find a good external CD drive for the new Mac.
Why is he reacting like he discovered an element? This is standard throttling protocol for laptops at the point of overheating. They cap the CPU and/or GPU at some point to maintain a stable clock speed instead of ramping the clocks up and down. GPU wattage will also be prioritized since it's higher power draw than the CPU.
Apple have always had with thermals and laptops it seems. I wonder if your results would be better or worse if both MacBooks Pro were put in clamshell mode using an external monitor? You would think cooling would be easier if the MacBooks Pro were operated while open
That’s a pretty crazy difference. Do you have any idea how you can get around that thermal problem? For example, is there some kind of software that can MAKE it not throttle, or force the fans to ramp up to cool it before it has a chance to throttle? I recently purchased the 14 inch with the M2 Max, but I got the base model M2 Max with 30 GPU cores. I expected that this will help with thermal throttling in the smaller 14 inch chassis.
don't let these tech reviewers spoil your purchase. I have the 12/30 m2 max 14 inch and I regularly push 6k workflows with no throttling. these guys purposely push these computers past their limits for views and engagement. think of it like this: imagine not buying a car you really like because a car reviewer ran the engine at 100% until it caused problems. You'll be driving on the road normally and paying more attention to comfort and features. You will rarely ever max it out to that point. Hope this helps!
@@williamhelena7592 Thanks for the reply, that's quite helpful! I did figure Max Tech was pushing them to their absolute limits just to see what the difference was during the worst-case scenario, but of course, I have that psychological thing/FOMO that makes me wonder if the 16" is just better. Thanks again, great to hear from someone who uses it and pushes fairly high workloads without issue.
@Max Tech is there a noticeable difference in read / write speeds in comparing 1Tb with 2 Tb SSD or just 4Tb? Which conf. gives the fastest results? is it enough to go with the 1Tb Version? How many nand chips are used in each configuration?
What are the temperatures of M1 or M2 Macbook pro while rendering in Premiere Pro f.e? Just asking because being a long time windows laptop user I'm quite suprised that nearly all of reviewers treat thermals at about 90/100 celsius as something normal 'cause it's a Macbook. It may have long term consequences in longevity of some components. Yes, windows laptops are very loud from about 75/80 degrees C, but maybe there's a reason? My Asus laptop peaks at 92 at Premiere Pro video rendering of 45min clip and I'm worried, but I'm also considering buying a M1 or M2 Macbook, are temperatures at about 100degrees safe? What is your opinion?
Apple fan curves are extremely lazy and have a large pad time. So it will max 108c and the system doesn’t respond until about 15 sec after to cool it. It’s meant to be this way as most loads are temporary in the real world so they would rather the heat and throttle briefly then spin up the fans and be loud. Eventually they catch up and do fine. OR the issue can be resolved all together by using your own custom fan curves that are more active to avoid the high temps and throttling.
This is weird as I just received my 14" m2 max with the upgraded cpu cores option, 2tb, 32gb ram and I got higher scores than you got on the 14" and the 16". My score was 14765 in Cinebench on battery power. For the rest of the tests I had about 5-10% better scores. Also, it barely thermal throttled for me. Very weird. Why do you think is that? Maybe the 2tb 14" has something different?