LPL: This is the LockPickingLawyer and what I have for you today is a welded shut slot machine which I am going to open using only a poker chip and a box of cereal.
Hello, this is the LockPickingLaywer, and today I have a challenge. I have to open a welded shut slot machine. This is no real problem for the plasma cutter I brought for this very occasion.
This is the lock picking lawyer and today I'm going to demonstrate the weakness of this welded Simon brand safe. Now I'm going to use my covert oxyacetylene needle and just melt these pins right off, because they use cheap metal. That's all for today folks
"It takes a fair bit of skill to open" in LPL speak means only a handful of the best could do it. This is something you will never hear said about anything from Master.
@@HerecomestheCalaveraRimgard's argument is, particularly if the wheels are expensive/desireable, the thief will want to avoid damaging the wheels, otherwise their value is lowered and/or it becomes obvious that they were stolen, and prying the lock off or cutting it is likely to cause damage to the wheel. Which leaves picking, which is hard to do.
There's a couple love lock bridges near me. I see a *bunch* of Master locks on them. Once I can spring for a Genesis set and some tags, I'm going to go nuts.
@@irodragon7184 yeah a smart man knows when to walk away and come back once they're relaxed. Happened to me working on multiple vehicles sometimes you have to leave and just come back
@@michaelf.2449 Hahaha. The way you've phrased that comment and in the context of picking locks, I read it to say 'yeah, when I'm trying to steal a car, sometimes you've just gotta walk away, calm down, come back and have another go.' Or you may be talking about car maintenance 🤣
@@Kingcloudii you have insider knowledge. However, prying it off will more than likely damage the wheel you are trying to steal. So that would be the less desired approach
Yeah they got it off and damaged the wheel in the process, rims are stolen to sell. Pointless if you damage them. The one they use in that video is a super flat rim. Something super easy to get under and pry on with minimal damage. I have them installed on BMW wheels. No way you could just pry it off like they did without really damaging the wheel.
Ok. Ya got me. I actually laughed out loud at: "I've seen these before on slot machines in Vegas....." And then he just kinda rolls on, and all I'm thinking is, THAT'S how he funds his picking habits! lol!
Master lock is the high school jock in a small town. Popular. No effort needed in class. You’ll like him anyway…everybody likes him except for losers and dweebs, or else.
Add to the fact that he started off knowing which direction to pick, as he had the key, and that he had much more space to work with than normal. Yeah, this ones a bit of a monster.
I can't imagine there are too many criminals out there with experience picking locks. If you need to pick it and not bypass it or break it, I'd think that would be adequate for 95% of all attempted thefts. I can't imagine anyone with so few skills they need to steal for a living would develop the ability to pick a decent lock.
@@darrennew8211 Exactly. Even the 2% that do pick locks are probably limited to simple wave raking of Masterlocks to quietly get into sheds and steal bicycles.
@@darrennew8211 true, and thats usually why lockpicking isn't talked about much, but relying on people not knowing how to pick even the most basic locks is almost as bad as just relying on people to not steal your shit. Any bit of extra security is another dozen attempted robberies thwarted.
This was the most unsure ive ever heard him while picking a lock, and he STILL got it done in less than three minutes! (Maybe under 8 minutes if he picked it with no key to give direction away)
It’s not a bad product it seems. It would take LPL 12 minutes just to take the guards off and then he’d still have to take off the wheels, taking half an hour just to steal some wheels seems way too risky
@@Unknown-xf2ed The lock core is not bad. But the rest of the design seems to have some serious flaws that allow for brute force removal in less than 65 seconds. So all the great job they did at selecting a reputable hard to pick core is completely void. The best lock in the world can't secure a paper door.
Thank you for your test, it’s an honour to be featured 🙏🏻 We’re not too concerned about the prying method. When the lock is installed according to instructions and the thief is concerned not to damage the wheel, the module performs very well as the deterrent it is intended to, especially on our latest modells (100$ cheaper too). We learn and move on.
Im always happy to see companies respond on here as it shows that a) they are checking for possible issues/suggestions on their locks and b) that they care. Nice job.
can we take a second to appreciate LPL's organizational skills? Any lock he's ever picked, he knows exactly which video it was featured in. Perfect catalogued history.
U tell me a lock he has featured and I'll tell u what video it was featured in in less than 1 minute. I have no organization skills. All I have is a RU-vid search bar.
I googled this core and read a bit about it. But now I am really interested in seeing it gutted, because I can't even imagine how a springless core works!
It works by having gravity essentially do the spring's work for it. The Desmo has sliders that move freely up and down and their gates interact with a sidebar that is pushed in by the lock housing which pushes into its gates. LPL did pick the lock with both 6 sliders (the one shown here) and 8 sliders (the harder one, but equally as fun to pick) on an earlier video of his complete with gutting.
@@erikbergstrom258 less rust, but dust, yes. i guess its for the situation when you park a expensive car under a carport or something, i think then its not so much of a problem. but usually these abloy cores are found - like lpl said - in museums, jeweleries etc.
Which, to be fair, is true. And it took LPL considerably longer on this lock than most, which actually is a very good sign. No lock if ever be pick proof, but you can make it such a pain its not worth it.
Locks can absolutely be pick proof, there are several which have never been shown picked online like the Bowley padlock and the abloy Protec 2. They can be impressioned but it probably takes ages@@Destin5258
As soon as he said "I probably would have wasted several minutes" to explain about the direction, I flat out didn't believe him. If the LPL says that statement, unless followed by "picking 30 masterlocks," I have trouble believing it to be true, but apparently, this lock did take a few minutes to do the right way. Color me impressed!
@@asdf12347109 some of donuts stuff is lame. but there shows like B2B. HiLow and Everything you need to know is amazing content. Its what the core of the channel is. Collaborations from similar sized channels is a great way to benefit both channels.
@@asdf12347109 What? All thats happening is Donut is giving LPL exposure, and Maybe getting a couple subscribers in return. I would see your point if it was a IRL collab, where LPL had to exit his format and betray his Style for the benefit of Someone else's video, but that's not what happened. Donut literally just Gave LPL a video that would serve as a companion to their own. and ngl, this is one of the more Entertaining LPL vids I've seen in a while. He Almost Kinda struggled.
I now judge how difficult locks are to pick based on duration of LPL's videos, this one being over 5 minutes makes me realize it's one of the hardest locks to pick.
Lol. I remember reading about their test procedures for those, I'd love to hear the stories behind some of those tests ("doesn't malfunction when electrocuted with cattle prod"). Security on those is serious business.
Which seems odd, now that there isn't any actual money in most slot machines any more. I guess they don't want people dicking with the internal electronics?
*LPL Going to Las Vegas with his wife* LPL: Ok folks, some people think that slot machines are lucked based, they are not. Wife: Wai-What? What are you doing ?! LPL: Nothing on one, Two is binding...
No offense but LPL wife seems the kind of girl that would try and smash the machine with a baseball bat all the while her husband was trying to pick the lock…
Ah but so much busier then the quiet environment shown here. Imagine bells, whistles, chatter of a casino and then trying to hear if the pin clicked up… plus cameras and people looking like crazy.
2min 40secs to pick by a pro lock picker on his bench vs. 65 sec to pry off by a criminal. If the company can make it more pry resistant, it wouldn't be a bad product.
Was just thinking this. The guys stealing rims aren't the ones who would take time to pick a lock. Brute force would be used and is faster for this lock.
The thing is that ir requires a lot of brute force to open and the thief is likely not going to want to go through the trouble of taking this off making a ton of noise for at least like 5 minutes (65s is only one wheel) and then end up having a damaged wheel that drops it's value tremendously as well as making it easyer to spot those wheels when attempting to resell them based on the damage
@@Solnoric These days, they steal the fuel before stealing the rims. Repairing the damage from fuel theft reportedly run into thousands of dollars for a replacement fuel tank that cannot be repaired without significant risk of explosion.
Wow after watching them destroy the body of that lug nut cover a few weeks ago I was certainly surprised to see LPL take that much time to pick the core. I guess that’s where the $450 price tag comes from. Too bad the cover wasn’t more resilient.
thats always something i find so funny about these videos, most of the times the lock/core is easily picked despite what they claim, but the ones that are ACTUALLY pick resistant usually have a weaker link somewhere else, i really feel like in this specific case, if someone was dead set on stealing your rims (and just having a lock didint deter) that they would sooner pry it open than pick it
Well if i remember right they did not put that lock on real nice wheels ither. On real nice rims trying to rip that sucker off might do more damage to the wheels finish meaning a thief would probably just move on to a different target
a slightly scratched wheel is better than no wheel. even if you have to get a new one you also get the satisfaction that at least the other guy didnt get it. regardless it of course sucks either way but better than nothing. another good thing about these is with them on it doesnt look like a guy changing a tire it looks pretty obviously they are stealing it. which can protect the car in some areas
@@nanaki-seto well, if were talking about a thief that didn't care which wheels he got, as long as he got some, they would see the lock and walk on to the next. We're talking about a determined, premeditated theft, they arent just going to settle for 40-dollar OEM rims on the Prius next door, They want your Super valuable forged aftermarket wheels, and nothing gonna stop them, unless it's something that can Actually physically stop them. They could probably wrap their Pry bar in rags, and sneak some painter's tape behind the wheel lock, then Go Ham on it. It would take them an extra few minutes, but in the middle of the night, that likely won't matter too much unless you've taken Other measures to protect yourself from Theft. Camera's, Smart Doorbells, etc. Locks only protect you from lazy thieves and honest people, which Should be enough for most situations, but if you fear theft strongly enough, Locks aren't a Reliable Last line of defense.
Considering the difficulty lpl had and the fact it would be in an awkward position if actually on the car i feel like this is one lock that actually is functionally "pick-proofc" as the chances of anyone actually disarming it by picking in the real world are extremely low
This was my thought too and LPL even stated it at the end. Out in the real world, this would be mounted to a wheel, so you'd presumably have to kneel way down and work in an uncomfortable position, and you wouldn't be able to get your hands behind it either. Not to mention, time would be a big factor, but you could say that about virtually any of the locks LPL reviews.
1:18 I like to think that LPL just knows all of his video numbers and their subjects without having to look it up. Seriously though, he must have a master spreadsheet outlining each video number paired with the locks used, tools used, and other pertinant tags about what was covered.
Do you actually know any (good) lawyers? This is how a good one rolls. If they don't have an eidetic memory, they have an awesome filing system with assistants that know it very well.
@@maxfingal most thieves leave if they can't get a lock open in under a minute. 3 minutes per wheel, that's over 12 minutes, thats if a professional is trying to pick them. I would trust this lock, considering someone can just steal your catalytic converter in about a minute with the right tools
@@philtheboi358 given that they can pop it off with a pry bar in a minute, someone looking to steal would probably go with that. Though in most cases they would go to the next car.
@@satibel if your rims are expensive enough you want a lock for them, anyone except the dumbest of dumbasses is gonna want to minimize damage when stealing them.
@@satibel No they won't, they'd be damaging the rim they want to resell, as was done in Donut Media's video. Their rim was also flat and thus very easy to get under with a pry bar.
but you fail to take into account all the other added expenses that you would incure if your wheels are stolen. you have to replace all 4 wheels AND tires, then you have to pay for a tow truck, and most likely you would need to pay for a re alignment for your car and possibly some damage to the brake rotors since they were on the ground. on top of all that, you have to face the trauma of coming back to your car to find that you are helpless because your wheels got stolen. chances are that if your wheels got stolen, then you probably also have a broken window and stuff stolen from the car. The tires and wheels alone are MORE expensive than buying 4 of these wheel locks, but then you add everything else in and its a no brainer, it is way way cheaper to buy the wheel locks and save yourself massive headaches and money in the long run.
@@orion7741 For this money I can get 2 years of insurance that includes 0 excess for thefts like these. Probably It pays off to buy cheap wheel guards and 4 RIMGUARD stickers.
Every time I think that 'yeah this lock is new to him, I have never seen him picking it" he comes with very old videos where he already picked it. like is there actually any lock that he hasn’t picked it. what a professional
Shoutout LPL for always being willing to be loads of creators final check for "pick resistance" or even "unlockable" Your contribution to already great content is far and wide, and I'm all here for it.
I had posted in a Donut Media post in the video about this lock how: "I couldn't wait for LPL to pick this -shitty- lock in literally seconds" Picked it in 160 seconds, while explaining/commenting, and you are the greatest that ever did it *every* time. But, I far underestimated that lock! =/ I thought it was some half-assed wafer lock, but I see now I was greatly mistaken. Great work as always tho' LPL!
I bought this lock after my rims were stolen. I thought it was secure and this gives me some reasurance. Maybe not the fact that at Donut they were able to remove it in 65 second, but seeing how long it took to pick definitely helps
Iirc in the video by donut they said that it was partially to do with how these locks sat on the wheels, they weren't fully flush on the wheels they had it on.
@@kenneth6102 Not really, they stole all of the rims on my brand new 2022 accord within 2 weeks of me getting the car. Insurance picked up the car, as soon as I got it I started parking on a private garage and put those locks on. They haven't stolen them yet, but they have scrached my car a whole lot. Oh well, that's what you get for trying to have nice things in the Bronx.
Well, the good news is that because the prying attack apparently damages the rims, it’s actually pretty secure. There’s no point in prying off the lock to get the rims if you’re going to destroy the rims in the process. Cause if you damage the rims, all you really get is scrap metal. And of course, your lock doesn’t need to be completely impenetrable. It’s like escaping a hungry bear. You don’t have to outrun the bear. You just have to run faster than the guy next to you.
It said high pick resistance, not pick proof. This still lasted about 3 minutes against an experienced lock picker, so I would say that is more than good enough. The issue is prying it off in just over a minute
I imagine it's like putting expanded metal or other armor over a catalytic converter - it's not impossible to defeat it, it's just more difficult which causes thieves to pick easier targets.
I love this channel, at 33 I still pick my way into my parent's house because I trained on their locks at the ripe age of 12 with homemade picks. Those picks still live in my wallet and even though I'm no expert, I am never frustrated when I accidentally lock myself out of my house without my keys. These are all very useful skills to possess and learn them early because you'll be practicing for your entire life. I have cracked multiple safes as well for fun, anything mechanical like this intrigues me and is always victim to its own tolerances and manipulation. Keep up the great videos brother!
Your understanding how lock mechanisms work is Pretty dam Awesome. Love it. So nice to see someone understanding the theory and putting into practice.👍
I recently picked up a covert companion set and have been playing around with a master lock I had sitting around. You make it look so easy in your videos but I struggle to open even this simple lock.(which I did manage to rake open once) It makes me appreciate your skill even more.
Well done! That's directed to Donut for their entertaining video, to you, LPL, for picking this lock, and to Rimguard for making a quality product. Kudos all around.
well the core is good but in the Donut video they literally pried it off the wheel in like a minute. so while im honestly not sure about the qualitative state of the product, i am absolutely certain its not worth 450$ lol
Lovely. At least you show your almost fails and even admits. I like when people I put above me fails or almost fails. I get to learn so much more and keep pushing on
@@Elkadetodd Those are the worst. A friend got rather annoyed when someone smashed a side window in his car in order to steal a dirt cheap stereo. In some places it is so bad that people leave their cars unlocked to avoid damage when thieves loot them.
I have these on my 2021 accord sport. Only thing that keeps people from stealing my sport wheels. I know you can pry them off, but generally if you make things just a little bit more difficult people will skip you.
OK, wait, why would you spend this much money to put anti-wheel theft on an accord of all cars? Plus, with how easy they pry off you almost certainly would get better protection with the conventional keyed lug nuts that are available for 1/50th of the cost.
That wheel lock is a winner. Even LPL needed about 5 minutes and he knew the direction of rotation. More importantly, LPL was not picking four of these while kneeling on the side of a cold, dark street, followed by removing 20x lug nuts, jacking the car up on bricks, and loading up the stolen rims into his truck.
To be fair, he started picking around 1:50, and opened it around 4:30, so a little less than 3 minutes (although he admits in the wild it may have taken him a few more minutes because he would have tried to turn it clockwise rather than counter clockwise). Still decent tho
It amazes me that all we see is a pair of hands but deep in that core we have some serious maneuvering going on perfectly narrated by Mr. LPL. Awesome videos man 👍🏽
You'd have to do that 5 times in the wild: Once clockwise to find out you have it wrong, then once for each wheel. If it took him a few minutes you know even a skilled lockpicker is dedicating an hour to picking all of these and to actually remove the wheels. Furthermore Prying it off would damage them. In short they essentially make the theft of your wheels something to not be concerned about.
Chances are all 4 would be keyed alike, so with each it would take less time. The positioning of the sliders is something you could memorize and apply as you go. Still a damn good lock, but do you have to spend $450 for each wheel? That's $1800!
@@KF1 Nah they'd all need different keys, different biting, 100% because you'd be buying them individually it would be silly if 1 key opened all locks by that brand. I don't know the answer to the next part. Machinery, probably.
@@MintRobin Naw should be single key. Separate for each is inconvenient and cumbersome amount of keys from a user perspective. I hate having ton of keys on the keychain like an old janitor
@@bigtitmaster I guess whenever it's time to change winter tires. And then back again in the spring, plus tire rotation. * Also have to be able to at any time in case of a flat etc, or when you change your brake pads, or anything that requires the wheels come off, which is more often than you might think from a maintenance perspective. You gotta produce now a handful more keys to give your mechanic every time you go there just in case he needs to take them off When paying $1800 for a set of locks, no way it's 4 keys. 1 key that's tits.
That is one serious lock! I've seen you go through SO many of them over the years. if it wasn't a Squire lock, it was basically a joke, and even then, but damn if this gave you a run for your money, there is next to no way a amateur is getting through that in less time than yourself.
Great job ! Looks like it was a bit of a challenge even for a pro like yourself, I always enjoy watching your videos, Thank you for sharing your skills with us all 👍
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