Sometimes I think of an alternate universe where LPL is scary because he's a bomb defusal expert. "Let me just re-arm the bomb and defuse it again so you can see it wasn't a fluke." Entire room PANIC.
"Some problems" is the understatement of the century. Gun safes with 3 digit locks should be considered toys, not safes. Buy one to keep bottle caps inside at best.
@@DPedroBoh if it takes 3 seconds per combination input, with 3 dials all going from 0 to 9, it will take 3000 seconds to input every combination. 60 seconds per input, 3000 inputs until it's open guaranteed, and that safe will be opened in 50 minutes max if the person did not ever double input codes and the code was the last one they check. Only 50 minutes
Fluke really needs to make a lawyer proof lock and capitalize on all this free publicity. Everytime LPL opens a lock "Let's do that again so you can see this is not a Fluke."
LPL warns three-digit code wheels can be brute-forced relatively quickly, then goes on to open the lock faster than it would take to average brute-force a one-digit code wheel lock. Epic level skills as always.
I've brute forced a 4 wheel lock master 175, but I took longer than LPL. Later I watched LPL and found I could have opened the lock in seconds or in under a minute if I wanted to recover the combo.
@@wictimovgovonca320 I think 3 separate bypass methods even before considering the fingerprint reader is bad enough to stop looking for more bypass methods. I would assume a magnet would have been one attack method and an urethane hammer probably another.
I'm not a locksmith by any means, but the second method is something my dad taught me at a very young age, like 5 or something, and it became a bit of a party favor for me growing up. Now it's one that I'm quite skilled just from doing it pretty much every single time I see a lock I can do it on to show the owner my dumb trick.
Same, but I've only ever done it on padlocks. Never tried it on something like this that doesn't have a shackle, lol. The trick I learned is you can either pull or push the shackle (depending on the lock) and then rotate each wheel until you feel a loose spot. That loose spot is the number.
I find it funny how the middle code wheel at 3:38 was at 9 and conveniently fell into place as a zero when you moved the first wheel. It's almost as if the combination WANTS to be entered correctly. Yes, it fell into its slot by itself.
I have "picked" 4 bike locks in my life using your second method of just feeling it fall in line. The ease and pace of the first method makes me realize just how badly I need tools lol
Yeah, I've seen a few combination locks like that. It's usually subtle, but if you're paying attention, you can feel some feedback from the mechanism... one of the positions feels slightly different from the others.
We had 3 digit locks in our bikes as kids (more than 40 years ago!). We could easily decipher each other's lock by carefully listening or feeling the mechanism as it would click onto position. I can hardly believe anyone would use a 3 digit lock for something like a gun safe today (Not that a 4 digit would make much of a difference in most cases really)
@@TheNeonwing you place a lot of faith on the average Joe/Jane to remember a series of digits. There’s a reason why telephone numbers are typically broken down into groups of 3 or 4 digits. If anything, this lock design should only be for low security applications, like securing a shed. Definitely not for a Gun safe.
I remember the old 4 digit dial combo cable/chain locks that you could pull on chain and definitely feel when each wheel was in position. If they were made poorly enough, you could see the gap on each wheel in the space between the wheels. Yeah, those things sucked.
Almost 5 minutes, i was allready going like 'wow, this must be a special lock!' Well... it was special allright, but not for the reason i thought it would be 😂
I don't recall any of the gun lockboxes that the LockPickingLawyer has reviewed being any good. It would be great to see a review that was actually positive. It would renew my faith in some of the engineers that design these products.
I noticed he rarely does a video for anything actually good. I think it could be construed as an endorsement if it's actually good. And we'll ... He's a lawyer.
I don’t think any of them are good. These things are for security theater to satisfy gun control laws. If you need to secure your personal protection firearm when you are not at home (to keep out of the hands of burglars or curious children), use a real gun safe.
It's a product that by definition is stupid (I feel the same way about trigger locks). The problem is not the idea of locking up the firearm, it's the idea of the lock not making the firearm less portable. It's like a bike lock that only lock the wheels. All I'd have to do is drive up with a truck take your bike and spend some time in the shop removing the lock.
@@edwardallenthree The only reason I had a trigger lock for my rifle is because I got it for free. Given that it was, if I recall correctly, a Master Lock product, I probably overpaid.
This just reminds me of a cash box I bought last year, after watching so many of these videos I knew it only served as a container with the appearance of a security. I was going to practice unlocking it with some picks I bought from this channel, but the paperclip I used worked much faster and on the first try.
The best part of those cash boxes is they prevent the wind from blowing your money away at a flea market or yard sale. The worst part of those cash boxes is they announce, as tens of paces, that your money is in a conveniently portable container.
Sometimes I get judgmental looks for knowing how to lockpick when a neighbor of mine asked for help to get into his house since he locked himself out of his house
Video suggestion to shake things up: show a demo of the spring-loaded ceramic (?) anti-drill technology for higher-end safes. Supposedly the doors have a spring pushing against the mechanical guts, if you drill the door, the ceramic shatters, allowing the spring to destroy the mechanism. I'm sure a safe company would love to collab with you and supply the demo door.
LPL has already showcased some self-destructive locks - as in, you set some of the pins wrong and the lock locks up and cannot be opened even with the right key.
When you were feeling for the position of the wheels without the decoder, you could literally hear the difference of them falling into place. I definitely would not keep a firearm in that. Love your work man!
Just to thank you. I've been watching your videos for some time and recently I was going to travel and found one of my old TSA Locks for my luggage to which I had forgotten the code. Using what I've seen you do in the past I cut out a piece of an aluminum can and in under 30 seconds found the code. Saved me having to buy another lock.
Thanks to your videos I have learned how to let myself in when I lock myself out my house. I’ve had to do it more times than I’d like to admit. You also made me realize my locks are wayyyyy to easy to pick.
I was pretty sure one of the methods would use a backup key, but there isn't one. 😀 However, seeing those highly sensitive fingers that probably also helped him to open the kitty previously is really interesting.
keep in mind the majority of purchasers of these things are only buying one because the gub'mint says they have to, and are much more concerned about THEM being able to get to the gun quick than they are about anyone else getting to the gun - and probably normally leave it with the combination set for faster access.
@@greggoog7559 well, they could make a law that anything calling itself a gun safe has to be UL listed, and then give UL a list of exploits to test for. but I'm talking about the owners leaving the combination dialed in, so they just push the button to open it.
As someone who thinks the government regulations are good, I think in the firearms department it would be better if we regulated results, not process. People are smart and innovative, and that should be encouraged. I'm not going to tell you how to secure your gun, but I would love to tell you that if your gun is stolen and used in a crime, regardless of how you stored it, you're culpable. If that's the case, you'll take extra care storing it safely. Too much of our jurisprudence and ethics is based on intent. "I intended to keep the gun safe..." That doesn't make the victim of gun violence from a weapon stolen any less of a victim.
@Edward Allen the downside here is that ANY safe can be cracked, and ANY lock bypassed provided enough motivation. So if a gunsafe is stolen it WILL be cracked. So your proposed law/regulation just re-victimizes someone who's already a victim. And intent 100% matters. It's the difference between "You're darn right I meant to run him over, that's why I sped up" versus ""oh God he just stepped right out in front of me, I couldn't stop in time".
Hit the nail right on the head -- that's why there is a market for these cheap things. I have one in my car. When I'm somewhere (across state lines) where I'm not allowed to carry my firearm on my person (I have CPL but no reciprocity with neighboring states). I drop the mag, take the one out of the chamber, put it in this "safe" and now I am "securely" transporting my firearm in unloaded condition as required by law. That's all it needs to do. I am not crazy enough to leave my gun in my car when I'm not there.
man, all these pistol boxed youve shown makes me feel like having my sidearm on a shelf 6 1/2' up and pushed back out of sight would be a safer more secure option, especially if i couldnt see it myself and was the only one in the house that even knew it was even there, and the only one in the house that could actually reach it unassisted
The scrambling and picking are are a great breakfast viewing. How can manufacturers in good conscience offer these as security? My children had toys with 3 digit locks and they learned to bypass them quickly.
Maybe this could be used as a decoy? Place a lump of scrap steel inside and simply super-glue the mechanism shut so that any potential thief will take it thinking they can easily break into at their leisure!
the back of the says "(please note that both fingerprints and code must be registerde)" so that probably tells you everything you need to know about the quality
I've heard you can either slam these style of "safe" on the ground, corner first or stand them up on their corner and whack them with a dead-blow hammer to pop them open. It worked on a similar lock box that I had lost the combo to. Maybe it would work with this. Not as elegant but if the ends are the same, I don't see how the means matter in the case of stolen property.
The WalMart department manager in electronics secured demo TVs to an aisle display using bike locks, then lost the combinations. My fingernail jammed between the code wheels was just right for applying tension and feeling for the loose spot.
"Fairly experienced hand" - never felt so proud since I opened a lot of locks this way. But to be honest...they're so crappy most of the time, everyone could do it. Still felt nice hearing it :D
A lot of thought went into the design. It had to 1. Look like a gun safe and 2. Be as cheap as possible. This product doesn't exist to prevent someone from getting the gun; it exists to protect the gun owner from being charged with failing to secure their gun.
Thanks to this dude someone was able to unlock my garage and steal 2 bicycles and a tool box full of tools, about $3000 lost but lockpickinglawyer still helps thieves steal from us.
See bio locks are on there own very poor but this poorness is often undercut by just how bad the secondary locking mechanism is and adding more ways to open a lock always makes it less secure even if the second method is very good because it allows more people to open it. Like you might have someone who is an expect in biometrics but doesn't know how to pick a lock and lock picker who can pick any lock but if you add a really good biometric and a really good lock both of them can open it.
Good point. Before I found LPL I would think biometric is an improvement, But as an electronics hobbiest I realize that electromagnets Can easily be simulated with a permanent magnet.
I think it needs to be said every time these products aren't for security to stop your gun from being stolen or a teenager from playing with it; if those are your concerns you buy a real gun safe. These products are intended to be a cheap solution for compliance in areas where you're required to have your gun locked and want to access it in minimally more time than just pulling it out of your drawer.
On combo lock, I figured out that pulling up in the dial to find the combo easy. I always did it at the school bike rack after school. Other kids thought it was magic I could open all their locks
I enjoy your videos because you are skilled and very succinct in your demonstrations, but after watching dozens of your posts I'm left wondering if there are any "good" locks out there. Would you consider doing a video on which locks you use or would trust? Some examples of your favorite lock in different categories would be nice, e.g. door lock, bike lock, pad lock, safe, etc.
LPL always spends a significant amount of time scrambling the combination to something he doesn't already know. Combination locks should really think about making this more convenient.
I can tell a lot of care went into this thing. And I like the implications of that poorly-spelled paper sticker. I guess they got a lot of complaints. "(please note that both fingerprints and code must be registerde)"
As a child playing with my family's bike chains, I quickly realised that any n digit combination lock is actually an n-1 digit combination lock to someone brute forcing it.
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