LockPickingLawyer. Thank you for all your very informative videos. I've especially enjoyed the videos on the gun locks you've reviewed. This and the gun lock videos has influenced me on purchasing an Abus Granite 37RK/80. Do you have any tips on where these might be purchased from a reputable company? Also are there any counterfeits to watch out for? Lastly have you seen these with longer shackles? Thanks again for the great videos.
Sorry eaglesteve, but I don't know where to get them. I have a few, but they have all be ebay purchases. There are similar LOOKING locks, but no fakes that I am aware of. As for long shackles, not on that model.
1:15 "A very very pick resistant core that I would say is certainly beyond my current capabilities" *5 months later* [548] Abus Granit 37/80 (Abus Plus Core) Picked and Gutted
@@ixflqr I believe it's this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FfFTNsowDvk.html, though the model is 37/80 instead of 37rk/80 (rk stands for re-key)
@Queenfinger Yeah me too. I found it for $190 with a 4 foot 14mm Abus chain. Next year I'm getting it tho I don't have any bikes or gates to lock up, it's just for me, for enjoyment
@@AL-lz6px there would have to be a part on the shipping container that is thin or small enough so the lock can fit around it, even 2cm hardened steel can be cut through with a angle grinder equipped with a good cutting disk
@@jacobgilman8189 if you do this during the day the sounds of gantry cranes and the slamming of containers will easily cover your sound up, but yes at night the security will be patrolling and the loudest sound will probably be coming from you.
We used those Sargent & Greenleaf locks on a restricted area on an Air Force contract I used to work on; the guy lost the keys. We ended up cutting the door open with a demolition saw and replacing the door. We eventually recovered the keys and the lock was re-used. Those things are amazing.
A couple of days later he updates the video to say, oops I missed there is a flaw in the keyway in this lock can be bypassed. Stock in the company plummets.
No padlock can stand up to the presence of a Mighty Powerful Makita XAG13Z1 - 36 Volt Lithium battery powered steel cutter, armed with a high quality industrial grade 3M-7200 DAD (Diamond Abrasive Disc).
LPL is the perfect youtuber. Regular uploading, highly informative, fan interaction, entertaining, no bullshit. His videos waste absolutely no time. Everything you want, nothing you dont.
Good luck breaking into this man’s house. He’d be out there criticizing your form and giving you suggestions. After you broke in, he’d suggest a higher security option to himself.
In one of the videos, he shows a standard Kwikset he uses on his own house that he changed the pins so that if you tried to pick it, it would jamb and be inoperable.
I imagine he has a spreadsheet that he can sort by brand or type or mechanism, etc., and he probably does enough preliminary preparation before the video starts to mention it, not just remembers them all. That would be insane. The dude's smart, but idk if he's _that_ smart.
@@aethrya I imagine it's like the episode of Frasier where he's taped all his shows and saved them, and knows each episode by number enough to describe what happened in each one
I was an Aviation Ordnanceman in the Navy, and our Ready Service Lockers (RSL), where we stored all of our explosives, had those Sargent and Greenleaf 833 locks. I swear the keys looked like they were 4” in length and the locks themselves weighed a ton. Nice to see LPL recognize them!
@@egeirmakgulseven8945 he didn't open shit, get your words straight. He opened the old patent pending version. Nobody can touch the RK version of the ABUS Plus Core
@@LOUDsigh to be fair, most criminals aren't as skillful or as prepared as LPL to be able to pick it since LPL basically picks almost every lock on the planet in seconds
@@CuongNguyen-sw1eb To add to that, its much easier to pick a lock in the comfort of your own workstation when you can freely put the lock in any position. It's a completely different situation when its mounted and in use.
I'm not sure if you've ever picked a lock before, but lock picking is a skill, some locks are extremely easy to pick. Others, I wouldn't personally be able to pick if my life depended on it, but I can pick most locks. This man can pick probably most locks, it's a talent that very few people have.
I maintained the S&G 831 series lock when I was in the US Navy. Those were damned fine locks. The "buildings" they secured were also very well protected by several other forms of security, one of note was a platoon of US Marines with M16's.
As an airforce vet I can confirm we locked our bandcamp weirdos in broom closets with Hi-shear locks. When they're not playing instruments or doing parades they turn into cannibalistic frat boys so we hide them.
@@asckeeYeah it cracked me up because it was his slipup but we actually had to do that once. We had some trainee color guard at my base get too rowdy drinking one saturday playing games and we legitimately locked them in a day room for about 4 hours lmfao
Here's what you really want to know: prices, plus or minus. Abus 37RK/80 $125 Abloy 362 $200 Rotalok $350 - from the manufacturer, limited availability Sargent & Greenleaf 831 $300 used, I personally remember them being about $800 new. Assa Ruko 4-5 $350 ?? Couldn't find this exact lock, based on similar-ish ones Kasp 19070X $100 on Amazon, believe it or not Mul-t-lock C16 $200 Mul-t-lock e18h $220 out of stock... Hi-Shear LK1200 $225 used (would kind of like an NSN or FSN) Squire SS80CS $215 (edit Disclaimer: none of these prices reflect swapping out the cores with the wizard magic he put in them or that they can optionally be ordered with) Not too bad. The only crazy, crazy expensive one is the SGT&Greenleaf if you buy a new, current model (951C), it will set you back about $1500 I'm guessing this list took longer to compile than the video -.-
I just ordered a 362 with Protec2 for $130 new delivered from eBay with 2-keys. I also got a 342 with an unknown core and 3 keys, new, for $66 delivered. And the Stanley Grade-4 lock is $23 on Amazon (two-pack KA for ~$46).
@@makeshiftg6246 this post has been up for 6 months, and you are the only person to stop by and ask me if this is what I meant. I thank you for that, you beautiful person.
Was thinking about getting a modern version of the S&G 831 (951C). Unfortunately, it's a $2300 lock. I'd come back to find my bike standing there, sans lock and chain, with a note saying "Thanks for the nice lock!"
@@firstbloood1 You're correct Bill and that's _why_ they're so cheap on eBay. I've always received at least 2 keys with every Abloy I've bought off eBay, I had 3 keys with the 342 I bought (worth collecting too that baby is, like a miniature 362, kinda sexy) So just don't be a prize-pratt and lose your keys like prize-pratts do and you'll be fine fine fine. 100% agreed, you _will_ definitely be stuffed if you lose your keys to a locked Abloy, practically impossible to pick you'd need an angle grinder, plasma torch or oxy-acetylene torch to get the bugger off again!
Thank you. I had _nearly_ abandoned pointlessly locking anything.
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As a retired attorney, I find your videos SO REFRESHING despite the otherwise banal subject matter. Well spoken, pragmatic, thoughtful, analytical, and incisive -- unlike most other YT intellectual dwarfs who simply point a GoPro at themselves, and babble incessantly about subjects with little factual basis (aside from personal experience). All my best wishing you much success!
The rotalock i was about to say you could just slap a pipe wrench instead of a fork but then you showed the spinning ability.. Engineers are smarter than we think
You have to remember that most of these innovations weren't thought about by geniuses with a great capacity for prognostication. Instead, in all likelihood, what actually happened is that they tried to make the body square, then they were broken into through rotation. So they were forced to make the body rotate.
@@b_f_d_d You'll just find a gaping hole in the side of the container courtesy of the handy-dandy angle grinder, with the added bonus of a smaller hole where the expensive-looking lock once resided. 😇
8:20 First thought in my head was "SERGEANT! I was informed that you play the Saxophone!" "Uhh yes sir, I do. Why'd you ask?" "Pull out the Hi-Shear LK1200. We have another one."
An EXCELLENT padlock between 100-200 ( 140 new.. Can be had cheaper used ), is an ABUS 83/55, it comes with either their new BiLock core or Abloy Protec 2. Very strong body, very pick resistant.
Its not only the lock the hasp on your door or chain must also be able to handle the same punishment . Whats the point of a huge nasty lock no one can open on a rusty hasp that falls of the door ? There is also very little hasp test or comparison online . Abloy factory test video ... its their own so take it with grain of salt ... still impressive. Its the smaller 350 model not the 362 and text is in finnish ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QbrKS6wLdCA.html
Hey Lpl, it been a few years since you did a review, was curious if you could possibly do a new updated list! Im sure not that much has changed but it would be nice to see what you would use to lock up your stuff with a padlock! Thanks
I would say that it is extreme precaution from this british company to send the padlock to the owner without the keys. This is new level of security. ;-)
I think their huge monstrosity was the Master Number 29. Actually a decent lock from what I hear. I think it has an interchangeable core, also. It was so good, in fact, that Master quit making it. I mean, they can't just go around making stuff that's actually worth a damn, right? That'd just be crazy!
Michael, the 29 is quite good, but not big enough for this list. The closest Master Lock ever had to a lock for this list is the 19, which was a very nice lock.
I am an ex AO (Aviation Ordnanceman) from the USS Theodore Roosevelt where I was a mag rat (G3 Weapons Division) working in the ships weapons magazines. All our locks were the S&G 831’s so I am very familiar with seeing those things. Ours had the ceramic inserts to deter cutting. Nice to see them get some LPL love!
Thank you for uploading this. I really enjoy listening to you speaking about locks and lockpicking with so much- well- love for the craftsmanship and challenge of the skill. Keep it up!
When you brought up that first military style lock I laughed immediately recognizing it. It brought up bad memories of cleaning weapons at the armory...
All fantastic padlocks featured here. I personally use an Abloy PL350 for locking up my motorcycle with a 12mm Peweg hardened chain. The PL350 is just a bit smaller than the PL362 and has a fully exposed shackle, but with all Protec core goodness intact. It's a lovely hunk of mechanical engineering. Very smooth to open and close.
Matthew Trzcinski I locked up a massive gate (12' tall and 16' wide made from 3" square tubing and a 4x4 screen of 1/2" hardened drill rod for the mesh...) we used a super heavy duty chain with a pretty large American Lock w/a primus core in it mounted on the gate inside a shroud. When we were broken into, the people used a 8 wheel tractor the farmer left parked in a field up the road to snatch the gate off the hinges ( which were 1 inch hardened drill rod...) I said that to say this, get used to the fact you can't win them all, if someone wants in bad enough, they will probably get in unless less you have armed guards posted 24/7. You can deter, but they may still win.
I remember the Sargent and Greenleaf being used on bunkers, including bunkers that contained items that were not either confirmed or denied. I also remember that hornets love to build in the hasp covers, thus the Spectracide was far more important than the keys!
Thank you for the great info and guidance.Very much appreciated.I am not interested in picking locks,I just want to protect my hard earned possessions. Thanks again
The roto loc is the best shipping container lock around. I used to see them on railroad cars all the time and it never really dawned on me why they rotated. But if you have something worth protecting then this will do it
LockPickingLawyer: What about the Laclede ? When I sought out Pewag security chain, I was directed to the Laclede "13 mm Lockdown Security Chain & Padlock kit." I don't know much about either that padlock or chain. Would love to hear your impressions or even see some videos where you test the padlock & chain. I obtained mine from a rigging supply co.
I would have liked to have heard the price of each as you listed them. 1. $120 (Amazon, $85 used) 2. $275 + $31 shipping (Amazon) 3. $432 (direct from mfg) 4. $160 (used, eBay) 5. n/a 6. n/a (find a dealer) 7. $116 (Amazon) 8. $240 (direct from mfg) 9. $180 (mfg direct) 10. (arms room door - LOL) 11. $180 (shipping from UK would be brutal!)
Not at all. I assure you anyone using any of these locks for an actual purpose is protecting something very valuable. Take the military one, that’s designed to protect probably millions of dollars of munitions/ technology.
I recently discovered your videos and immediately became a fan :) This is one of my favorite videos, but it leaves a lot of unanswered questions. I would really love to see a video in which you take a part the cores of the first and second locks presented in this video and talk about the security features. The reason i am interested is because for the first one you mentioned it is beyond your current picking capabilities, and for the second one you mentioned that it is among the hardest locks to pick in the world.
Didn't know Sargent & Greenleaf were involved with padlocks. In the military, the S & G combination safe dial was routinely used on safes or vault doors to secure classified materials/equipment (at least in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s).
necropost, but those S&G padlocks used to secure most Army armsrooms, along with a remotely monitored alarm system. So it is that lock holding perhaps 100-150 ARs, pistols, grenade launchers, machine guns, etc. Although usually not much ammo beyond perhaps a mag or 2 for a guard when the alarm craps out.
Very pleased with mine, been outside in terrible English weather for years and its still in perfect order and very shiny. Super hard too, dropped it onto rocks and concrete many times without any marks or scratches.
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