I love the few times where it opens surprisingly easily, and he admits it's a fluke "This usually takes a few tries..." (pops open) "but sometimes it's the first try"
I was wondering if it would be the comb, which is an even lesser skilled attack. That would (or should) be embarrassing for a lock manufacturer, if it works.
I purchased a genesis set just before they came with a case, and the picks are too soft ,,,, they bend very easily. Be careful LPL/COVERT products ......
You got LPL's words out of context. He wasn't saying that this is a lock he would use and haven't talked about the possible appliances of it depends on its determined security level (around 10 seconds to pick). What he did is straight forward to compare between the two, and said it clearly: This one is a lock to modify, this one *can* be used out of the box. No need to thank me.
Masterlock is good enough for some tasks. When my dog figured out how to open the gate and take herself for a walk, Masterlock stopped that. It helps that my dog lacks opposable thumbs.
I use a masterlock when I need something with more stability than a zip tie, and possibly easier to open. For example, holding down the lid of my plastic trash can. Until racoons can use a wave rake, it's probably fine :D
Honestly, as much as I love this channel, I kinda wish he had more "locks that I would use" videos. It's great to warn people away from locks with faulty designs, but I don't know what the better alternatives are.
If anything, this channel has taught me that you should never, under any circumstances, rely on a padlock to keep anything safe. Not even the diary of a six-year-old.
Locks are usually much harder to use if you don't take them out of the box. Though, I guess it depends on what you are using them for. Master Locks will still work perfectly fine to stop papers from blowing off your desk even if you leave the packaging on.
It's so good to see you 'back at the beginning' where you use regular picks and practices. The specialized tools you have are very interesting, but watching you actually blast through a lock with your old-school techniques is just awesome. The only thing missing from this video is a dual gutting. Either way, thank you for putting up these videos.
We need a video of LPL giving lock suggestions he would give to serve different security purposes, such as locking your bike, up to closijg a storage locker
Maybe you could have tried raking the second one first to demonstrate that it does not work? (whether the lock is resistant to raking or the shape of the keyway makes the rake not fit)
What makes a lock rakable is the relative depth of the key pins. When their depths are close to each other, it's easy to push all of them up at the same time with the wave rake.
Seeing the title reminded me of the children's book "Same, Same but Different" I used to read to my kids and gave me a good laugh. Thanks for the lock review LPL.
Get LPL on the "barnacle" window boot from NY. A Giant briefcase suction cup parking infraction deterrent. It's activated with a key so it must be picked.
There's a garage door at my parents' house that hadn't been used for years, and the key cannot be found. We wanted the door open to make it easy to clean up the clutter inside. Your videos inspired me to get some improvised tools to unlock it. I used a bent keyring for tension and a jeweler's flathead as a pick, and it opened up. Happy picking
If "Fluke" was a brand of locks, they'd probably be the best in the world, as LPL would always be comparing to them. Other locks just don't stand up to them :D
But why did John Fluke invoke his special homosexual rights to sell his company to the Chinese ? But we can have some comfort knowing he wasn't a Trump supporter !
Great information, beautiful presentation, I can say I thoroughly enjoyed this video. But let's go ahead and watch it again just to make sure it was not a fluke.
Wish I could do it so fast! You inspired me to start lockpicking! Just today I've applied for my Blue belt. Hope I can buy the Covert Instruments tools in the future here in the Netherlands so I can try them out! I only hear good things about them.
This would be quite the expensive project but I would love to see you spend a day testing gallium, specially on safes, it would be cool to smelt through a safe with gallium
Surprising (at least to me) to see something with the Schlage brand on the key that has no security pins. I would consider myself a novice to intermediate picker and every Schlage-branded cylinder I own has at least some spools.
Love your vids. I had a gun, weed and cash in a brinks home security safe (I have a teenager in the house). The key disappeared. I watched a couple of your vids for inspiration but am nowhere near adept a thief as you. But I got the thing open within about 7 minutes thanks to a bit of inspiration from you.
3 months ago RU-vid stoped showing me your channel even though I have notifications on all. Today I got a notification. I don't know what RU-vid did to there algorithm but it stopped showing me thing I want to see on my feed if I skip over like one video.
This is the new Masterlock security plan : they bribed Google to stop proposing LPL videos displaying wave rakes or yellow hammers. Only trust your "subscriptions" tab. And go watch the April 1st masterpiece!
Finally after years of watching you and bill i finally got my first set with is sparrow’s competitor set and a few extra picks and tension bars. Thought about practice lock and decided no I’ll just get cheapo masterlock 😂
I have been watching your videos for a long while now, and decided to take the plunge and start lockpicking as a new hobby. Thanks for making these videos.
It’s a shame the KS72 isn’t more secure from factory because the convenience of that cylinder is compelling for homeowners who want it keyed alike to their garage, etc. As you said, modifying it with a spool and some security pins would make is substantially more pick resistant, I just can’t believe they don’t do that from the factory with these higher-end pad locks
I think as you pick it you find that the tension bar is in the wrong location so you change to a different one until it is comfortable to pick. Since LPL has already test picked these locks he skips the trial and error portion. Also the same cores from a brand will pick the same way, so you can use that as a short cut.
Raking is usually done BOK to leave maximum room for the rake to maneuver around the pins. TOK bar would block the rake from hitting first couple pins and restrict angle of attack on the other pins. Otherwise: most locks are easier to pick TOK to allow maximum range of motion for the pick, but there are exceptions, e.g. some pickers use BOK to provide a stable platform to lever the pick off of, some keyway warding doesn't allow accessing pins from the bottom, and so on.
Could a lock manufacturer design a lock so that if the first position is pushed in, it makes the lock unopenable? It would seem that it would be a deterrent to a lock picker.
I don't know if previously there have been videos made on request about a specific lock, but it would be tremendously helpful and insightful to see your opinion on this new so called "anti angle-grinder" lock. I'm considering becoming a motorcycle rider and buying one and from what I've seen this is apparently the lock that fairs best against brute force attacks but I'm very interested on the safety of the lock itself and it would be amazing if you could review it. Thanks for the insightful content you always post
Hey. LPL, Here is a video you can make that features a test on a lock. That Schlage lock looks pretty secure, but you opened it quickly. I have always had a thought about making one of these locks more secure, like if I were locking a shipping container or a camp door, I would turn it upside down and dump a small tube of superglue in the tumbler. No key could get in it then. When I needed to open it I would heat it up. with a torch, till the superglue became fluid, stick in the key and open the lock. It could be relocked the same way (I imagine). I haven't tried this yet, I figured it would be cool if you did it in one of your videos. I do this a lot on my Phillips and Torx bits on my drill adaptors, I superglue them into the adaptor so they don't fall out (even though there is a magnet). Then when they wear out I heat them up and insert another bit and maybe some more superglue. It works great. Good luck and great videos, I really enjoy them.
Remember that a lock is more than just the keyway. There are shafts for the pins, the key pin and the driver pin, the springs, etc. These are pretty intricate and delicate and glue would gum up the works. Even when you heat it, you're unlikely to get an even temperature and get all the glue out and even a small amount would stop it working, plus every time you do it your will be damaging the lock with the heat, the springs may just melt. I suspect your lock wont survive this treatment long.
When the wave rake comes out, we know it will be a bad time for that lock. I know bump keys are mostly used for door locks, but is there anything that limits their usability on padlocks?
There should be a 'Department of Locking Mechanisms' headed by you and staffed by experienced lock pickers. All locking devices should be tested by your department through different tests, like how easy is it to destroy, how easy is it to pick, etc. And if it passes, then it can be legally sold.
Seems like you can pick every lock ever made. So your knowledge of lock weaknesses might point your imagination toward innovative improvements. I would enjoy watching a video from you about how you would design a pick-proof lock. Or what ideas do you have about making a perfect lock? Maybe a series featuring new, unique, strange and effective lock mechanisms to get people thinking how to move society beyond Master and Schlage.
Brinks has come out with a new lock at Walmart, modeled very similar to the American aluminum locks. I bought one to see if it’s any good, and would like to see if you could grab one for your opinion.
That pair is also a brilliant example of how you can't look at the key to determine quality of the lock. One on the left has the better quality keys, but the worse security.
Oddly enough, anyone know who the parent company is for Schlage? Master Lock? It’s Ingersoll Rand for both. So IR makes crummy locks labeled Master, an ok lock with a Schlage C keyway, and a good lock with an American Lock keyway.
2:21 .. These Schlage locks with the are priced competitively, and the ones that take common KIK, or Deadbolt, cylinders?? ... go GREAT with Primus High Security .. allowing the High Security Primus Keys, to operate any keyed alike SC1 keyway locks. I do believe Primus is off paten now, so it actually makes key coping easier, and of course being off patent does not effect pick resistance :)
It's always fun watching your videos and great when you give a heads up on differences between locks - even though to the untrained eyes looks identical! Just wondering about comparison series what your opinions on some of the newer bike locks that are billed as cut/saw resistant? I'm sure almost all bike locks can be picked at varying degrees of difficulty, but wondering how the new cut prevention tech actually holds up? I've had my Kryptonite Fughedaboutit for over a decade and still very confident with using it in sketchy areas, but thinking maybe it's time for a new lock. I had checked the shackle one day and noticed what appears to be a saw attempt on the lock, but I must have interrupted them without knowing. I was wondering your opinions on the Hiplock D1000, and the Litelok X3 or the X3? Unfortunately I know the prices for these locks are quite expensive, I guess the reason why it would be nice for an honest review before committing to order one or the other. Thanks again for all your fantastic videos!
the moment i saw the shape of the keys i knew that the right one was the more secure. that trapezoid shape is a standardized symbol for fairly high security locks, at least here in europe, while the left one looked more like the standard american low security key shape
They sell hydraulic spreaders on Amazon like the bolt cutter video you made accept they spread metal open. I’d be fascinated to see how they work on u locks and locks. I think this would make a very good video since there none out there of anyone using them but thieves already are.
I occasionally watch Penn and Teller's Fool Us show. I think it would be so cool to see someone come up with a magic routine for LPL to use on a show like that.
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