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1957 - Bohn Contex 10 Mechanical Calculator In Depth Look 

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@TechTangents
@TechTangents 5 лет назад
For everyone who is asking about division by zero, I answered it at 24:06, though you may not appreciate the answer without watching the entire portion where I cover how it works while it is disassembled. ~23:10, it's the result not the dividend
@dashtesla
@dashtesla 5 лет назад
Unrelated but I wanted to ask anyway, you mentioned in your DLT video you were gonna make a video about tape drives on linux, just wondering if you remember XD
@torquemada1971
@torquemada1971 5 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7Kd3R_RlXgc.html for a more interesting example of a mechanical calculator dividing by zero.
@chrisdpratt
@chrisdpratt 3 года назад
The truly fascinating thing is that division by zero does kind of work. The answer is infinity, and if you keep pressing the level, you're continuing to approach infinity. The problem is you'll just have to keep pressing forever.
@umageddon
@umageddon 5 лет назад
That design looks well beyond its time. The font styling looks absolutely modern. 1955? Wow.
@iroll
@iroll 5 лет назад
It's not called "mid century modern" for nothing!
@felagoncalves
@felagoncalves 4 года назад
Because it looks like Bohn designed that particular calculator in such a fashion (no pun intended) that it looks timeless, atemporal. Another example of such design are road signs on a typical motorway. Its font is intended for it to look modern and to make them as durable as possible, since there's no need to replace them as they look contemporary regardless of the time.
@neogeo1670
@neogeo1670 4 года назад
It looks like some accessorie for a 90s computer
@AlexanderNash
@AlexanderNash 10 месяцев назад
Maybe it's just because some modern design imitates some older designs. It's not that deep.
@bss1250
@bss1250 5 лет назад
I've performed that foam repair myself on my Bohn Contex 20. There was foam in the peg board originally but its polyurethane foam, so by now it wont be so much foam as paste. These calculators were cheaper than name brands like Marchant, Friden, and Monroe, so instead of using spring retained pins like most 10 key adding machines they used foam to hold the pins in place by friction
@Ice_Karma
@Ice_Karma 5 лет назад
35:52 "[...] and you would lock the lever down so you could carry it in the case with it being a little bit more compact." Not just that, but also to reduce the risk of accidental damage during transport.
@djdjukic
@djdjukic 5 лет назад
34:08 by not adding the leading zero, you've effectively divided by 120, giving you a result of 1 with a remainder of 24. By pressing →(next) you are now dividing the remainder by 12, giving you 2 with a remainder of 0. So it works just the same as long division on paper!
@KurisuYamato
@KurisuYamato 5 лет назад
Such beautiful machines these later mechanical calculators are. What I think I love most about them, beyond of course their mechanical nature (I'm a typewriter fan as well) is the fact that all of the logic in them is the core of computer technology -- these machines, as basic as they are can still be classed as computers in a sense, and when you scale it up to trillions upon trillions of crazy little operations following the same key structure (give or take) you have the core of every computer system ever devised. Just take those results and give them a meaning beyond binary data :D
@BokBarber
@BokBarber 4 года назад
Pro tip: most typewriter repair blogs that I've read recommend using gun oil when typewriter oil is called for. It's the closest modern equivalent. They also recommend gun cleaner when you want to remove said oil if it gets gummed up. Specifically, Rem-oil often gets mentioned, which comes in a spray can (perhaps not wholly coincidentally made by the Remington firearm company, which happened to also be the manufacturer of the first mass produced typewriter.) If that's the recommendation for typewriters, you may want to look into it as a solution for older adding machines like this. Final PSA: many typewriters don't require oil! Always research whether or not your specific model requires it, as some are designed to run dry and oiling will gum up the mechanism.
@ct92404
@ct92404 4 года назад
That's pretty impressive that it can do subtraction directly. Most mechanical calculators and adding machines had a weird thing where you have to add "complimentary numbers."
@emdxemdx
@emdxemdx 2 года назад
Well, that's what it actually does by shifting the register to the other side of the gears... 😊
@devjock
@devjock 5 лет назад
This is absolutely beautiful. Mechanical calculators are such nice beasts to see in operation. Thanks so much for the thorough explanation, your passion and enjoyment for this equipment shows!
@Danny-wv8ec
@Danny-wv8ec 5 лет назад
Looks brand new and as if it was made in the 90s or even later.
@sarowie
@sarowie 3 года назад
one hint: Grease and oil play a different oil in machines and mechanism. Do not oil mechanism that are greased, as the oil acts as a grease remover. The worst thing that can happen that you oil a permanently greased part, it works fine, but then seizes up over time, because the oil has displaced the grease and then the oil runs away, resulting in the seizing. The issue with that is, that when you oil, the machine starts to run smoother makeing you think that oiling it was good, but in reality, now the mechanism needs regular oiling. An example are squeky doors: Factories fresh hinges are greased, so they do not squek. Over decades, the grease looses lubricity, the door hinge starts to squek. The hinge gets oiled - but from now on, the hinge has to be oil regularly. If the hinge would be disasemmbled and greased, it would not need grease or oil for decades agains. Note that grease can accumulate dust - so using oil as a greaser remover can be good for that purpose. (The worst for greased mechanism is WD-40. WD-40 acts as an oil and grease remover - it temporarily lubricates, but in reality, it just removes any residual oil and grease)
@emdxemdx
@emdxemdx 2 года назад
I have the electric model, and when you multiply, you enter the multiplicator on the keyboard and it repeats adding the multiplicand and shifts the register automatically. This is one of the cleverest devices I have ever seen...
@fredbentley4944
@fredbentley4944 2 года назад
I used to work with my Dad who was the County Forester. I remember when the county bought him a Bohn Contax calculator to use on his job It was funny operating it. We entered the numbers in then pumped the handle until it locked up and the answer appeared in the window! LoL
@windowsxp1615
@windowsxp1615 5 лет назад
When the calculator is more complicated than the maths it can do.
@incognito-px3dz
@incognito-px3dz 4 года назад
That is true of every computer
@Hassanelogs
@Hassanelogs 3 года назад
Still they were able to figure out E=mc²
@ColtGColtG
@ColtGColtG 2 года назад
@@Hassanelogs that was more likely handled with good ol pen and paper/blackboard and chalk, and a slide rule.
@ehab9877
@ehab9877 Год назад
This machine knows the steps of the solution, that is, it does not only give the output! It would have improved and developed more if they had not abandoned it! Trust that, electronics are structurally more complex than this machine.
@hoppinggnomethe4154
@hoppinggnomethe4154 9 месяцев назад
Well, you just described every Texas Instrument calculators
@machzel08
@machzel08 5 лет назад
So fascinating. I'm glad you always open the stuff up and explain it.
@ChristopherNelson2k
@ChristopherNelson2k 4 года назад
And that, boys and girls, is how to program in 8 bit assembly. Go forth and make great things! :D Very cool seeing that machine function. The sheer complexity of it must have been very daunting for period manufacturers.
@UgurOnderBozkurt
@UgurOnderBozkurt 5 лет назад
My father had one of these in Turkey. He was an accountant (freelance) in 1967-1980.. (I was born in 1972)
@helali_s
@helali_s 5 лет назад
I always had a thing for mechanical calcs, thanks for the video :)
@AlexElectronics
@AlexElectronics 5 лет назад
Wow! This is really cool!
@pattyoneill91
@pattyoneill91 3 года назад
This is a great way to understand how computers work
@johnmiller6743
@johnmiller6743 4 года назад
The left-pointing arrow is not exactly the same as pressing zero: it takes care of resetting the counter too! (the other arrow does it as well) You need that feature while multiplying and dividing.
@yourgen1891
@yourgen1891 Год назад
Thanks very clear. Got one today very fun.
@lexluthor3890
@lexluthor3890 4 года назад
You know, I'm pretty sure I've stumbled across your channel before returning recently. Anyway, glad to see you back in my recommended videos. Also, yes I did watch your recent video explaining the choice of your name.
@MisterRorschach90
@MisterRorschach90 4 года назад
Can you imagine taking the act and only being able to use this beast
@teh_supar_hackr
@teh_supar_hackr 5 лет назад
It's weird how much I am into calculators, even though I hate math class, and could never do most of what they did, most times having a d in math, and once got an a somehow.
@chrisj.1608
@chrisj.1608 Год назад
my eyes are already glossing over... kudos to the people who used this to run an office or business all i can say is thank god electronic calculators became a thing
@retrodevdroid3670
@retrodevdroid3670 5 лет назад
Wow, I think i wouldn't get a single calculation right on this thing. :-D
@yash1152
@yash1152 2 года назад
lolol, imagine having an exam which checks just that - if you can operate this calculator or not (:
@ehab9877
@ehab9877 Год назад
Don't be so sure!
@shyleshsrinivasan5092
@shyleshsrinivasan5092 5 лет назад
Super cool !
@pfuisi
@pfuisi Год назад
A beautiful mwchanical machine. I like!
@mutetus
@mutetus 4 года назад
This seems so simple compared to my Walther WSR-160, which I still haven't cleaned and learned how to use. But at least it is nice to look at.
@yash1152
@yash1152 2 года назад
I was wondering about mechanical calculators for quite some time, thanks for the video. however, my imagination/guess was something made with rotating gears and some such. i think i got that "guess" from glimpses shown in some video i saw
@4clive
@4clive 5 лет назад
Thank you for opening it. That was risky, if a spring flew out or a cog dropped then it would be effectively ruined. I imagine all the engineers for that thing are now dead or ga-ga.
@JamesLewis2
@JamesLewis2 5 лет назад
Maybe I didn't watch closely enough, but what happens if you divide by an integer that does not divide the dividend evenly, like 12/5?
@CristiTomaPhotography
@CristiTomaPhotography 5 лет назад
All the springs pop out...
@blahza12345
@blahza12345 2 года назад
Intuitively, it should show 2 | 2 and lock
@JeffCD77
@JeffCD77 5 лет назад
I think a pencil and a piece of paper would be quicker!
@BastetFurry
@BastetFurry 5 лет назад
You have to start somewhere. And if you have a long list of numbers someone who knows that machine would surely be faster.
@mitsostechtips9047
@mitsostechtips9047 5 лет назад
I will never forget when Clint from LGR he said the name of this channel...
@joeyr9876
@joeyr9876 5 лет назад
I think it could be interesting to write an emulator of this calculator, to preserve how it works digitally. Definitely got to have the sound effects for the key presses and plunger.
@johneygd
@johneygd 5 лет назад
Wow i still got confused how this thing works and how to work with it, but it’s an interesting device, and eventrough the technology wasn’t there to calculate reliably but this can be considered as the most advanced analogue computer i,ve ever seen.
@MrPGT
@MrPGT 5 лет назад
If you can't easily get a hold of typewriter oil, then perhaps sewing machine oil would be more readily available and suitable as a replacement?
@ScarlettStunningSpace
@ScarlettStunningSpace 2 года назад
Any mechanical calculator is cool, analog computers would be even cooler
@dandan1812
@dandan1812 5 лет назад
What happens when you divide by zero: the counter goes up forever, so technically you get infinity right?
@happysprollie
@happysprollie 5 лет назад
"What happens when you divide by zero is nothing". Not quite true. The answer is infinity because you will be pushing the lever forever...
@rivards1
@rivards1 5 лет назад
Came here to write this!
@johneygd
@johneygd 5 лет назад
Ahahaha.
@amorettique
@amorettique 5 лет назад
No... when *I* hit the lever the 65535th time, my cat hit the clear register button and the display became zero, so when *I* divide by zero, the answer is 65535
@johneygd
@johneygd 4 года назад
A cool device wich expects aloooot of the user.
@Tharkun35
@Tharkun35 3 года назад
I have Contex 10 too, but I have got an issue with the cycle counter which doesn't turn enough and sometins does not turn at all. Have you got an idea to solve this issue ?
@ExtremeGamer9951
@ExtremeGamer9951 5 лет назад
What about if you get a non zero remainder during division, what happens?
@BennBirch
@BennBirch 5 лет назад
now this is proof positive that math is hard. thanks to modern technology ("Modern" being from the last 50 years) calculators actually calculate. This machine is from an age when you still needed to think even when using a machine. You're basically 'programming' a mechanical keyboard to do a calculation. you aren't just entering in digits and telling it what operation you want to end up with. It's mind boggling when you think only 12 years later from this machine being new we landed on the moon. Just furthering the genius of those engineers involved. I wonder if we'll get to a point in the future where computer programming that we know today will be seen as overly complex and clunky in the same way that this calculator looks like such a hassle to use. "Grandpa? You mean to tell me you had to manually type in thousands of lines of code to make a video game? Didn't you have conceptual neural interpreting language?"
@benh.635
@benh.635 5 лет назад
I do enjoy the (sometimes) overly complicated nature of some of these things. Even if we do have a conceptual neural interpreting language in the future, I'll always choose the code. :D :P
@leohuangchunwang
@leohuangchunwang 5 лет назад
Back in the NES days, games were programmed with assembly code, which is the lowest level language, very close to the hardware, and is really hard to program in. You could allegedly develop games for the SNES with the C language, which is still somewhat low level, but most games were still assembly. Games only started really using C for stuff like the PlayStation 1. If you wanted tools, such as a level editor or just something to organize your code with, you'd most likely have to make it yourself. Nowadays very few people would go out of their way to program a game in just C or assembly. Game developers use stuff like Unity, Godot or Game Maker, which helps manage stuff like objects, assets and code for you, and lets you do 3D without doing some serious engineering. Things don't seem to really have changed much beyond that in the last 10 years though. You could definitely do a lot more in any engine nowadays than you could 10 years ago, but in terms of what you'd actually have to do to make games, it seems that we've decided that "Specify your logic for each thing" is the most abstract we're willing to go, and the best way to specify logic is to use things somebody else had built, or to write code for it.
@pseudonymous1382
@pseudonymous1382 5 лет назад
The interesting thing about mechanical calculators is the fact that digital calculators themselves still operate identically. For example, when he subtracted a larger number from a smaller one to achieve a negative number, the output register rolled over from the highest possible value minus the difference from the numbers. In a computer, the output register holds an identical result (i.e. 4 - 6 -> 999...998), but computers are able to recognize this with a bit of trickery to tell the computer that the number in the register is actually negative, so it shows instead shows -2 instead of 999...998. Likewise, multiplication and division really are repeated addition and subtraction. Pretty cool stuff.
@joeltunnah
@joeltunnah 4 года назад
Clorox Bleach, exactly. It’s hilarious the cognitive dissonance people have. CNN has a 5 second delay interviewing someone in London in 2019, but people think Nixon had a real-time zero delay phone conversation with the moon in 1969. LOL
@ehab9877
@ehab9877 Год назад
This machine knows the steps of the solution, that is, it does not only give the output! It would have improved and developed more if they had not abandoned it! Trust that, electronics are structurally more complex than this machine.
@ropersonline
@ropersonline 5 лет назад
I wonder how this thing compares to a Curta, which is one of the few other mechanical calculators I'm aware of. I have never owned a mechanical calculator save for an abacus, and I'm not even sure that one was "mine" mine instead of family property. Is there anyone who has laid their hands on both this and the Curta and could say how they compare? I'm asking especially because the Bohn Contex 10 does seem to require a degree of special-casing and operator awareness, but it does look more familiar and more like a typical calculator than the hand-cranked Curta. But which one would really have been easier to use and easier to learn? Does anyone know?
@IkarusKommt
@IkarusKommt 4 года назад
This is a household model, it is not for accountants and other professionals. Curta is just an Odhner calculator, so it is pretty harder.
@LaskyLabs
@LaskyLabs 5 лет назад
Got a negative 9 Wat do?
@laurensa.1803
@laurensa.1803 5 лет назад
Its like a mechanical abacus...
@akefayamenay104
@akefayamenay104 5 лет назад
How does it give you a division answer higher than 9? Edit: I didn’t quite watch long enough before asking. At the very end of the video after the tear down he explains that it feeds the answer back one digit at a time. Clever.
@johneygd
@johneygd 5 лет назад
Hahaha i was falling asleep while watching this,and so as you can imagine i still don’t understand how to work with it.
@ZXRulezzz
@ZXRulezzz 5 лет назад
So it's basically a normal pinwheel calculator with a novelty of proper keypad...
@josephneale10215
@josephneale10215 5 лет назад
❤️❤️❤️❤️
@supra107
@supra107 5 лет назад
I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I have a question. Did you divided something by zero on the Bohn Contex to create a perpetuum mobile?
@thiesenf
@thiesenf 5 лет назад
It created a black hole in my head... in other words nothing happened... since I have no head... lol
@calex2892
@calex2892 3 года назад
The time I spend learning how to use that calculator I'll use a paper and pencil.
@RoyHess666
@RoyHess666 5 лет назад
That thing is so fucking complicated, how many engineers did it take to develop this? WTF.
@ehab9877
@ehab9877 Год назад
This machine knows the steps of the solution, that is, it does not only give the output! It would have improved and developed more if they had not abandoned it! Trust that, electronics are structurally more complex than they are.
@lnro4494
@lnro4494 5 лет назад
this calculator hates division so do I lmao
@Ice_Karma
@Ice_Karma 5 лет назад
I don't own a mechanical calculator, I've never used one, I've never even seen one in person-the best I can say is I've played with a software emulator of a Curta-but it's pretty neat that it's basically a more user-friendly "packaging" of, for example, the designed-in-1936 Facit TK, which you can see in CuriousMarc's video at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cRGu1OBFPrc.html . XD
@leinadsee
@leinadsee 4 года назад
u need a Curta
@MinorLG
@MinorLG 5 лет назад
I'll trade my chequemate check writer for that.
@LoLSmileyFACE650
@LoLSmileyFACE650 5 лет назад
since it carries division by the actuator. what happens if you were to. say accidentally (or intentionally to test) divide by zero first. adding a subtraction counter. and then divide by your actual number? would it read the division correctly or account as if added by 1?
@Ozzy_Helix_
@Ozzy_Helix_ 5 лет назад
what happens if you divide by zero on it
@daviddavidsonn3578
@daviddavidsonn3578 5 лет назад
it blows up!
@infinitecanadian
@infinitecanadian 3 года назад
A bit inconvenient to put the keys above the display.
@stumpybear60
@stumpybear60 5 лет назад
Desktop Curta
@NathanPlays395
@NathanPlays395 4 года назад
LGR confirmed.
@danielson9579
@danielson9579 5 лет назад
Wtf the hula? 😳
@Pharaoh025
@Pharaoh025 5 лет назад
Was this thing ever popular? Like... at all? Coz fuck that... I didn't very much like math in school, this has not improved that...The engineering is fucking mind blowing though!
@TransistorBased
@TransistorBased 5 лет назад
It's not 'bonn' it's like 'bone'
@IAdryan
@IAdryan 4 года назад
Didn't know how lucky we are for having electronic calculators :) That thing is horrible ! I mean is nicely builded but the workings is too complicated and prone to errors.
@ehab9877
@ehab9877 Год назад
This machine knows the steps of the solution, that is, it does not only give the output! It would have improved and developed more if they had not abandoned it! Trust that, electronics are structurally more complex than this machine.
@prestoncheapbtheadphoneste3010
@prestoncheapbtheadphoneste3010 3 года назад
5:44 “ say you want to subtract something! So now you have to push the, subtract button!” Really?! No shut , Sherlock!! 😐 Noooo, I thought 💭 to subtract something you pushed the multiply button! 😕
@bentboybbz
@bentboybbz 4 года назад
I hate math why am i watching this....
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