man I remember running a whole system with that punch 75 , caps and chokes on the mids and highs and a 6.0 coil on the bass driver that was the good old days when you would use just one amp and it sounded great, fader what fader we don't need no stinking fader!!! lol
I remember when Rockford fosgate first came to my town in 91 and it blew out the competition. They're some of the best amps ever built back then. And still til this day are the best by far.
@@JaredElliott1 they were not all based $1 a watt. Like the power 1000/650/300 mosfet from the late 80s/90s. Even more expensive 😂. I guess where that high of power was hard to get back then. Prices have definitely changed but I still prefer the oldschool!!!
@@thatonebrittanyYou definitely got what you paid for back then. I owned a cheap pyramid or something back in '91 or so and it was junk. Rated 100w but probably only 25 or so. I blew the chip out and replaced it myself, back in business. Then I encountered Orion, everything changed. 225 HCCA Digital Reference. I now have an Orion 2500.1 Dz @ 2971w.
When Pyle has decent woofers. Before we really knew about ohm loads. Just hook all positives together, and all negatives together. 4 Ohm meant 4 subwoofers right????
Yeah boi ! Great video, audio, tutorials as always. Legit testing. Back in the day late 80's early 90's mini trucking & cruising chasing the ladies my system consisted of : Interstate 1,000 cold cranking amp battery, Harman Kardon CR151 pull out head unit with 3 sets of RCAs pre outs & 5-6 volts, Audio Art 3 way Xover, Rockford Fosgate Punch 30 driving Audio Art mids & tweets, Punch 75HD driving 2 RF 8" truck boxes & Hi Fonics Thor VII driving 2 10" SAS Bazookas.. High quality car audio companies that actually exceeded their hype. Awesome memories & nostalgia
For a small ass amp + Old school build? = Never Underestimate the power of the amp just by it looks. Never judge anything by its front cover. This amp is no exception. A+
This test was right on time for me. I just had a discussion with a friend. He was putting down Rockford Fosgate and kicker making a speech about how today's amplifiers are so much better than old school. I can't wait to forward this video of the 75 watt Rockford Fosgate amplifier killing it on the dyno, Showing proof. I only wish you added the "does it bump" part as usual. Oh well, we can have everything. This should work though.
Ur buddie know nothing..old school was about all 1 dollar per watt for real usa made..now days amp is not truly watts! It say 5k watts but do half watts! Back then it's Underrated, say 75watt but do 1500watts!
@@bonthor7515 Part of it. Not only wattage. Better quality sound, did not get hot, lasted longer, much less distortion, drained less amperage from the electrical system. To this day to get good quality we must spend good money. There is always Middle Ground. Getting something that's a good value for the money.
Always great to see the videos you put out on the old school stuff. I like the quicker run down of the test rather then letting the video drag to long. Keep up the amazing work. Also for a suggestion, I have always been looking into buying old school stuff either online or through local tag sales or what not. Maybe you can do a video into what to look for and what to avoid. Or tips and tricks into old school audio. Again keep up the great work.
GTiGuy316 Great suggestion, I've thought about that as well. I'll see what I can put together. I prefer to keep the videos between 4-8 minutes if at all possible.
JeepAndBass Thanks man, I like to take the time to add extra facts about the amps whenever possible. This is why my RF Power 650/1000 and Orion 2100 HCCA videos have been years in the making. I keep adding info when I get new details about them.
Amazing amps man Back in 90 my buddy had a 45 on pair of 15's in a cutless and it hit like crAzy, I remember asking em "what's on your subs?" "Punch 45" "WHAT!? That's it!?" "Yup"
My first real amp was a Punch 150HD. It's going in my son's first car tomorrow along w/ a PPI PC275 on mids/highs. He turns 16 in a week and gets to experience the beauty that is old school Rockford and PPI amplification straight from the engineers of the gods.
mike champagne wow man, we are getting old! That's cool you are passing the amp along. Many of those HD series have that HB-PIM board problem I mention, so if you start having issues with it, don't toss the amp...it can be fixed! Love the way you are passing along the OS passion!
My buddy had a punch 75 which he ran 4 12inch subs bridged down to a half ohm load for months before he blew the dust caps off and destroyed the speakers... Great amplifier
Ran 2 15 inch kicker c-4s ,2 -6.5s , 2-5" ,2-4" and 2 soft dome tweets with a Rockford 45 running stereo& mono all in series which puts both channels down to a 1ohm load with a true 250 watt output and a 0-45 watt class winning 147db for consecutive years !!
These take me back to my childhood! My older brother had a 150 on 4 cerwin Vegas 12"s and a 45 on the mids and highs... We laugh at it by today's standards, but that chevy nova used to dump that thump for those times😅! I've been waiting to see the db drive okur A72000.1 ran so I can get an idea whereas if I can run it daily at 1/2 ohm. I ran 1 ohm on 1 15" RE audio sx three years ago and could out beat 4 12"s. Today I have 3 15" RE audio sxx v2 with three db drive amplifiers waiting on install. Really wanting to see what that amp is capable of squeezing out.
Just picked up a RF 45 HD, 75 HD, and 150 HD looking to restore them and add them to the collection. Also have (2) 12" Cerwin Vega Strokers NOS in plastic :) Great vids.
Awesome! Some of the HD amps have issues with that vertical input board (caps failing). You can get replacement boards at Old School Car Audio Restorations in RI
Williston Audio Labs yes!!!!! I remember paying almost 300.00 for it! Add caps and xovers it was a killer setup! Still have the sub xover somewhere!!!!!
My first system went through a lot of changes but at one point I was running 4 of the original punch 75's. I had one mono on each 15" Pyle Pro sub and then one on (4) 6.5" Rockford midbass and one on (4) Rockford tweets. BTW I loved the music in this video!
That they were. I paid right around $250 each for those subs and people felt me going by (which was good back then). It's sad they went to cheap a$$ stuff. They had good inexpensive drivers back then for awhile.
This was when you bought a Rockford fosgate amp and get serious power for your money ....owned a punch 45 and punch 150 they were tough as nails and for the strong ....the plug was the only down side ....could be problematic at times if you didn't mount them away from the enclosure ....and if you mounted them on the enclosure you were just asking for trouble .....but that being said briged they made some serious power for the time....I ran a punch 150 in a extended cab 2000 s 10 with one 15 in JL audio w series 15 in a slot ported subzone enclosure and it would pound ....that was around 2005-2008 and people were amazed at the "thump" I was getting out of that small of an amp ( they were judging it by it size) and wasn't a basshead in the early 90s like I was either ......most had never even seen a Punch 150 ......it would launch a full 24 oz can of beer off the top of the cab of the truck no problem and I hate distorted bass and or music coming from a system .....this was clear brilliant deep bass .....and of course I had miss and highs (Alpine ) running off a punch 45 with a bass blocking crossover .....yes it was old school for the times but it would put newer way more expensive systems to shame .......so glad to have been a teenager in the 90s ......
Had 75 HD and two fg12s only in my car in the 90s factory radio in a 92 eclipse and was out bumping most cars with higher watt and more equipment. Just two 12s and the rest factory I would love to find another fg75hd
I had a punch 150, but it was the older version from 86-88... none of the red writing on top. Didn't do the 3 channel mode I don't believe but WOW it pushed some watts and had that knob for bass or treble on the side so you could crank it up!
In the early 90s i bought a Series 1 RF amp for my tweeters for $120, this was RFs low line back then. Well the amp blew and the shop gave me a used Punch 75 to use till they got it fixed, they never called me so I got one hell of a deal. The 75 then went on to run my mids and midbass and sounded damn good.
Melody Strull that's a great story, thanks for sharing! I sent a letter once to RF about how I loved their amps (1991) and they sent me two Perfect Interface amp shrouds for a Punch 150 free of charge! Too bad these were misplaced over the years, I know they are still in their original boxes somewhere
Nice....i just picked up a 400.4 punch amp (trans-ana) 99' series i believe...has all the crossover cards...purchased for $10....just dont have the end covers...
hey BigDwiiz I would love to see an old school amp like a CONCORDE AUDIO amp, I had one back in the days with two KICKERS when KICKERS first came out with the gold letters 15"s.
DUDE! What group/ track is that playing in the background??!! I must download it!! .........Punch 45 on highs ,75 on mids, and 150 on subs made up my sweetest system from back in the day. I had two 150's each on a RF Pro series 12.
Punch would do it's rated power even if this was a 1981 instead of a '91. My favorite amps of all time. I'm not usually a brand loyal person but some things never change.
Big D I had a punch 75 back in 1990 pushing 4 12's and loaded to a half ohm for a while.. like months and absolutely blew the dustcaps off them Pyle 12's sounded epic tho.. test that at a half ohm if you would please sir.. thanks so much for the demos
This was my first amp I ever got I ran this on a alpine 6 crystal pull out deck and I think I had is hooked up to 2 -12" crunch subs high phonics amp to run 2 6×9s 2 5 and a quarters doors and 2 tweets after that I was all about those alpine v12s and ppi Precision Power
2022: still using a Punch 75hd with all original parts on a 2nd gen Kicker Comp 10. Will anything made today still be working like new 30 years from now? I seriously doubt it.
Would love to see a Punch 40x2 or a Punch 225x2 on the dyno. Had the punch 40x2 hooked to one of my Kicker Solo-Baric L7 15's dual 2ohm, sounded great (still have it), and currently have the Punch 225x2 hooked to 2 15" Solo-Baric L7's, dual 2ohm, both bridged and the amp bridged to a 1 channel, sounds great, not super bass, but very nice.
I had one of them in a Camaro back in the day, I would probably still be using it had it not been stolen out of the car in the tow yard after an accident.
What's up Big D. Just found a classic you have to watch. I tried tagging you lol didn't work. You gotta check it out. Title is " bass competition from the 90's". Not a big channel but came uo in my feed. You will definitely like. Thanks man.
Man did i just see a rexcel n that vid? Had a buddy that had one back in the day. He said it was alot of distortion so he never ran it. Have you dynoed it?
This is the amp I had back in the day. I gave around $200 in a sale in 199...5? It came with an individual measurement paper, but I can't remember what my amp measured.
I have one of these I got my hands on about 15 years ago, works wonderfully, I want to set it up in a 4.1 configuration. Front speakers are 4 ohms, rear speakers are 8 ohm, in parallel each side is 2.67 ohm, I was reading the manual and seems like it's possible connecting a 4 ohm sub woofer in bridged mode whilst having the speakers as well. My question is, do I need any special filters or any specific Resistance and Capacitors to work as filters? I would love to make this bad boy put some extra bass in my configuration
Big D, have you ever tested the old school auto tek amps! You know the mean machine 44 ,66,and the 99 ! Those were very powerful amps! I still have the 99 ,I have to find it!
awesome as usual! 2 punch 45 on 2 punch 10's back 1992 was the loudest i had ever heard in my boys 85 200sx. I still to this day wan't to know how that thing pounded like that. What was the specs on the 45??
I had an old punch 800 4 channel. I dont remember exactly what it was called but it did very well on subs for a long time until the rcas went out on it
have you tested the JVC 90' (not sure on model names I just know it was early 90's) series amps?? I had a 50watt x 4 channel and a 100watt x2 channel amp in my setup and swore I was getting more than what it said.
o.o i remember back before you had the dyno lol been so long since i had seen one of your videos tho i had forgot that i was even subbed but its awesome that you got one of the steve meade amp dynos :D keep up the good videos! i would like to ask tho do you know the RMS of a 1000 watt sony xplod from roughly 6 years ago? they claim 380 rms but i doubt that lol
Can you retest the punch 150HD with your amp dyno, because the numbers from the 75HD seem to put the 150 to shame a little bit, especially the 2 ohm mono test.
I wasn't aware of that! Sounds like a real audio wiz that John pleitz. Gotta say your ability to gather the equipment necessary and organize these videos is top notch. Figuring out how to test what these wiz guys throw at you is impressive
Dereck you should start putting together graphs of the power output vs impedance at certified/uncertified/dynamic settings. I wouldnt mind helping you with that.. just need to get some time off work lol..
I had that Punch150 pushing 2 Pioneer TS6907 rear deck speakers in my 1984 Buick Regal in high school, bumping that Curtis Blow-These Are The Breaks....GTFOH!!!!!