Brillinat from James ?... 0:26 he sayed "a very agressive stuff from Patrese" while it was clearly an agressive defensive move from Berger. Hunt was full of hatred towards Patrese until his death. He never changed his mind about Monza 1978, because if he had done so like anyone else at the time, he would have had to live with a terrible weight of guilt for Peterson's death. On the other hand, his opinions on Latin drivers were always marked by a certain amount of contempt and even racism. Even here after the accident at Estoril he put all the responsability on Patrese while it was all Bergers fault. Incredible how he was blinded by his own stupid bias
It was scary to see this. Patrese just missed the bridge and the attenuated barrier at the end of the pit lane whilst flying at 160mph. Very lucky. Thierry Boutsen - the next man behind this pair, saw the whole thing, and thought Patrese was at least seriously injured, and recalled that he nearly got out of his car.
I was there, on the stand in front of the pit lane. Most of the spectators missed the flight, they were looking forward down the straight. I saw it, it looked like it was going to end terribly wrong. Incredible crash.
In the 90's I lived right next door to the Donington circuit.... as an F1 fan in those days you could just wander in on non public test days with a nod from the team manager and stand by the car watching the team work.. and in some cases conversing with them... absolutely brilliant. One day I was up there and Ricardio was doing brake testing drives in the Williams. He went out early did two laps and came back in... all the mechanics looking at each other wondering why. I stood three feet away from Ricardo when he pulled the car into the pit and the mechanic asked him what was wrong... As a fan enthralled at the technical mastery of these highly paid drivers who knew how to undertake complex car set ups in order to win... I waited with baited breath for his wise techical feedback (the guy was on a million a season even in those days) .. He said to his mechanics.. and I quote ... 'It goes in the corner but it won't come out'.
I remember watching this my heart stopped for a moment thinking that was going to be a fatal crash. Ricardo was a great driver and a good team mate for Mansel. Back in the days when Williams were awesome.
2:46 it’s a testament to the safety of F1 cars today that commentators generally no longer react like this to crashes as it’s unlikely it’ll be fatal, unlike Murray who would have seen many fatal crashes over the years
@@josiewallace7968- he did criticise Patrese’s recollection later in the broadcast oddly enough. Patrese mistakenly said Berger chopped him (but there was no hand signal from Berger), and Hunt said “if that’s his best recollection…maybe his long and illustrious career is quite long enough, in the interest of his own safety”. Schumacher, Senna and Martini then had tyre or suspension problems as the marshals couldn’t clean the track up - was a horrible crash.
The FW14B was easily the most sophisticated F1 car built in 1992 but by today's standards seem simple, tiny and flimsy. This is a 505kg machine. If your driver weighs 75kg in 2023 then your car is well over 700kg. I love how agile and darty they seem.
@@therrydicule Indeed. That car was ahead of its time. The undisputed proof is that the legendary Adrian Newey worked on it 😁Both Williams and McLaren made a considerable progress after Newey joined them in early and late 90s respectively. Which is quite a shame, considering where both teams are right now, at the beginning of 2023 season. Williams has been in one big struggle for last few years, but McLaren is a total catastrophe of wasted potential, especially when the trend started to look better for them during 2019-2021 period.
I was going to say, but someone beat me to it, FW14B actually remained the most sophisticated F1 car ever even into the 2010s. 😅 It was a genuine space-ship. Its suspension was completely programmable and it could learn the physical topography of the race-track and adapt the ride height accordingly, it was completely immune to porpoising... This technology has been banned since 1993!
1992 was almost the peak of sophistication, all driver aids were banned in 1994 after Senna's crash. And people still think today's cars are "Driven by computers" lol
I wondered at first why they didn't just cut to the crash but setting the scene reminded me what a battle that was. In hindsight it was obvious Berger would pit because he was catching those other cars. These days the voice in Patreze's ear would have been predicting Berger's move.
"Ricardo Patrese is looking very shaken" was the pit lane reporters comment. I should have thought he was in shock, let alone shaken!! Lucky to walk away. Also lucky he did not fly over the barrier. Lucky man. But listen to the sound of those engines screaming. Proper old school engine noise.
I miss actual fighting for positions not gifted DRS overtakes that cannot be defended. Anyway this accident is due to poor circuit design since the pit entry is off the main straight, Patrese had no idea Berger was going to enter the pits there.
Yep, DRS has served its purpose - the aero changes are succeeding in letting the cars get in close. At best DRS should be reserved for making marginal opportunities into possible opportunities, not easy passes.
Nice to see Michael Schumacher at the start of his F1 career. Can you believe it, a rock when skiing, after all this? 😐 James Hunt and Murray Walker - the Ying and Yang of F1 commentary - sadly both gone now too, but of 'natural' causes - red wine and chain smoking and loose ladies in Hunt the Shunt's case.
I remember this at the time, Berger didn't put his hand up as he went into the pits and Patrese didn't realise what was happening until heading skywards!
Why should Berger put his hand up. It was evident, that he wanted to box. If Patrese would have stayed on the left side of the track as usual, nothing would have happened.
@Heimo Manner He didn't have to but it was common (presumably not so much now with the raised cockpits) to signal that you were going in the pits by raising you hand as you pulled across/had mechanical issues etc. Even Berger said this and from then on made sure he made a point of doing it clearly. However in this instance with Patrese so close and determined to overtake he probably just thought Berger was defending by going off line and when he slowed for the pits was caught out. Still had good reaction as he nearly got clear.
I could never understand how and why Labatt could afford to sponsor Williams. They were a large brewery by Canadian standards but tiny in comparison to other multinational ones.
You really had to earn a pass back then before DRS took all the skill out of overtaking. Now you can once again follow cars closely DRS should be binned.
Berger's defence here really was quite good actually. The Williams in 92 was ALOT quicker than the McLaren, so Berger really did do his best to make life as hard for Patrese as possible.
Achually Williams introduced push to pass feature in their active suspension cars as well. It supposedly lowered rear suspension to decrease drag and raised engine's rpm limit.
I really wonder if F1 could go back to a simple aero setup like in these days, which seemed to have allowed much better racing. Then again, the weight and size of modern F1 cars would mean that the cars would be significantly slower, especially through corners, so would that be worth it? If a 10% decrease in speed meant racing like this, in my eyes, it would.
If Patrese 's car falled inside the pit-lane instead of outside, it could be a slaughter. However, it was Berger's fault 100%.: he had to rise his arm if he wanted to go to the pits. I apologize for my shaky English.
What a stupid mistake Patrese made. In 1992, I didn’t know yet that I would root for him)))) p.s. The most beautiful cars and liveries in the early 90s!
You utter retard. Gerhard was world champion material, Patrese was at best a lowly no.2. Berger was as fast as Senna, just less motivated and cunning. Patrese was nowhere near mansell ability and Mansell was nowhere near senna ability
This was back in the day when F1 was actually great to watch more often than not- I don`t think I have watched a full F1 race since 2000 or so. Oh dear, Oh dear says James Hunt, slight understatement. F1 cars are not meant to do wheelies, thankfully he was ok.
Eu me lembro que nessa corrida a Williams estava testando o FW15 para a temporada de 93...Notei que o FW15 É muito superior ao da Mclaren de Berger muito rápido em reta...
I remember when Roger Williamson was killed in Holland they just threw a tarpualin over the burned out wreck with him in it. they didn't even stop the race. Jackie Stewart went on to win the race.
I had the VHS of this race for years because of that crash.. The old Estoril circuit was awesome before they ruined it with that double hairpin chicane.. 🤔
Hunt: Ooh dear Murray: OHHWHHHHH Murray was a totally different class of commentator, and I think responsible for modern commentary having the energy it does
Yeah, really good times. i remember Roger Williams's car burnt out with his body still in it at Zandvoort and they didn't stop the race at all with Stewart going on to win. really good times. fuckwit.
@@giovannigino3675 If there really was a whole court case about it then good, yes, clear him because its stupid to start charging people over racing accidents, shit happens. Personally from the video i saw it was indeed because of Patrese that the incident started because of his sudden lunge which forced Hunt to swerve out of the way but again its racing shit happens
These days, the radio comms to the driver would probably mean that Patrese would have been informed that Berger was about to pit. And the stewards would have been having a look at some of Bergers defensive moves!
That crash went terribly wrong and it punished the wrong driver. It was Berger who started the problem by being rude afew laps earlier , But it was partrese who payed the price of Berger rudeness.
Most drivers put up a hand when they are going to pit. Especially when they know there's a challenger right behind them. Not impressed with Berger here.
Actually no most drivers don't have time to do that. Anyway Patrese had plenty of room to get past him. He was following too close considering his poor reflexes.
@@lwalker8785 at every pre-race briefing from tin tops to formula one, the Clerk of the Course politely requests all drivers let following competitors know they are about to leave the track to pit, when racing. They don't ask drivers to do that for fun, every time a car passes the pit road entrance the potential exists for them to take that route instead of the main track, thus making it possible for an unexpected deceleration in front of a car on full commitment. As for Patrese's reflexes, the average reaction time for all humans is about 0.1 second. The very fastest 5 percentile of population is around 0.08 seconds, so not much difference in real terms. If a different driver was in Patrese's position at that moment, they would have also collected Berger's car, unless he'd put his hand up on the previous straight, like a gentleman should. I'm no fan of either driver, but even if I hated Patrese with a passion, I couldn't let that emotion blind me to the fact that my more personally favoured driver baulked him and caused a highly dangerous accident.
No, you are thinking of Alex Zanardi, he also drove for Williams and three other teams in F1, then went to Indy racing. after that he took up paralympics successfully.
Someone needs to do a comprehensive list of all the Italian nick names for F1 drivers - translated to English - because they are always accurate, often hilarious. UK / Italia share the passion!
@@GrandPrixDecals well, that was a nickname that we used among friends watching F1 in our glorious youth time. I don't have the pretension to make it a nationwide nickname. Probably we gave the same nickname to the late Andrea de Cesaris, God bless his soul. He wrecked probably more cars alone than all the wolkswagen crash test engineers put together. Anyway with such drivers we were sure to watch always something funny. God bless. 😎✋
I remember this incident well but always believed there was a similar incident when a car got big air. Either it was Japanese driver or Chinese and his name began with the letter T. Can anyone help?
Berger knew what he was doing. He braked for the pits with the intention of messing up Patrese's run down the straight. It was probably more successful than he anticipated though. Dangerous driving by Berger.
The starter of the race was responsible for the accident. He released the race too early, when the rear vehicles had not yet come to a standstill. Ricardo Patrese took his chance and accelerated immediately when the light turned green too early. Any racing driver would have done that to get to the front. .
At the 3:44 mark in the video, it sure looks like the two cars are racing each other while Patrese's car is still on the driving surface of the race track. Common sense safety came slowly to F1.
@@sixtenallingersandgren6674 Firstly im not wining, i done and observation. Secondly, aesthetics matter in all sports, thats one of the elements that attracts people to watch
@@sixtenallingersandgren6674 I would happily lose just under a second of lap times to have those lightweight nimble 2004-2005 F1 cars back. With actual racing engines, not some hybrid blah blah vacuum
