Amanda Borden was a great example of not giving up. She didn’t make the 1992 team, kept working at it and became an integral part of the 1996 gold team medal!
I'm always in awe !!! When I watch this video !! I never get tired of watching these ladies preform !!! Gymnastics was just so awesome during this time frame !! Shannon Miller so full of grace and so humble !! Still my favorite gymnast of all time !!!!! 🙆🎉❤💯
I had the Shannon Miller leotard catalog (she's wearing a lot of the leos and shorts in the practice shots here) and I wanted every single one!! It was the 90s and it was grand. Minus the sexual abuse that Nassar was doing behind the scenes of course.
This was the first gymnastics competition I ever recorded on VHS tape! I was 12. By the time I was 20 I had about 100 tapes! I watched them over and over😂
Steve Nunno honestly just lucked out with Shannon. He never had the same level of success with any other gymnast. Shannon was more a reflection of her own skill and dedication than she was of Nunno's couching.
Shannon's family sent her to an elite gymnastic program in Europe. That's where Steve found her. He couldnt produce another champion other than Shannon even though he recieved Kerri and Jennie who were both elite.
I totally agree. Was about to correct your comment “Nunno’s couching” but on second thought, he basically acts like an irate dad watching football on the couch and yelling at the tv. That’s Steve’s style of coaching. Bitch and gripe at the tv while you’re sitting in the couch.
@@Janellabelle Some came close though. Nastia Liukin. Shawn Johnson. Carly Patterson (particularly considering how short her career was). Nobody Nunno coached had even close to the success of those though. Heck he never coached someone besides amazing Shannon with even close to the success of say Amy Chow. The point is he isn't that good a coach, and got fired from his college coaching stint after like 9 months.
Funny I just watched Dawes when she finally won US nationals and I was thinking for some reason how you never see her parents like most of the other girls then this came on and there's her Mom. Seems sort of weird to hear her parents don't get really involved. Anyway, I always adored Dawes.
I for one kind of get it. I was a former gymnast and dancer. And if I had a bad day at the gym or in the studio, my parents would ask if I wanted to talk about it. Whereas, with other sports (like basketball, baseball, etc) my parents would stay and watch (there wasn't a separate viewing room). My siblings both played soccer, baseball, and basketball and swimming. I personally liked not having my parents in the Gym and Dance studio room with me (I liked it was me and my coach). Also, the Dawes family lived a ways away from the Gym so Dominique eventually moved in with Kelly's family.
Dominique was awesome but I wish her training would have incorporated ballet to help her lines and toe point. Form deductions is what caused her to not have high scores.
Part of the problem with the toes is her muscular structure (no hate Domi, LOVE YOU!) Her legs are slightly bowed which pulls the feet muscles in different directions. I am a dance instructor and one of my students had that very problem. It can be corrected some with stretching and training the muscles to go in a different direction, but this can inhibit muscle strength and power in the legs. This is why we see extremely muscular gymnasts like Simone Biles not pointing their toes. The body can often go one of two ways: powerful or graceful. That is why power AND grace are such a rare beauty! Not that Dawes doesn't have grace, she does! It's just that her muscle/bone structure wouldn't let her have the same lines as others. :)
I think her score was a little low. There were two mistakes. One was on the landing of the front tuck and the other was on the split jump. She noticeably leaned back. Overall I think the form is what costs her. Bent knees, flexed feet, leg separation....when she has great form she qualified for EF at worlds. Amazing athlete.
She ALWAYS got ROBBED! If Shannon was in the competition she would always get 9.8 instead of 9.9 10 because they had to save the big score for Shannon. It wasn’t until 1994 when they realized hey she might be better than Shannon and she won every single competition that year
Women's gymnastics is the 90s was much more impressive than it is today. It seems like on the beam they had to do more, and the passes on floor were crazy amazing!
geezus. Shannon Miller gets scolded on her whole routine for a single balance check and small hop. I'm a little bit shocked. I know those things count but her perfection is so expected that they barely care about the good things. It's interesting watching this compared to gymnastics now... wow Dominique. She's incredible.
Magenta Spikes ya I was coached by Shannon’s coach and I was at her gym at around the same time. I used to love gymnastics before we moved to Oklahoma. I quit. The pressure was unimaginable.
Nunno always seemed like a bit of a hothead and a jerk. Shannon must have been very well adjusted not to burn out with this guy. One of the greatest US gymnasts of all time.
Dominic is incredible to bad she's not given a fair score. But the Olympics is all race & politics and rarely about what it should "the technique of the sport". This was especially so in 1993..
I had him for a short time before I broke my back, and he was awesome! Always a great motivator. My favorite coach alongside Russian ones I had, yuri and Lubinka.
Ya know its funny to think that in 1993-95, Kerri was just a background gymnast, a relatively unknown, but then in Atlanta 1996, she became America's hero when she stuck her vault on one leg in the Atlanta Team Finals.
Kerri had several injuries during this time which she fought through. She was not a back ground gymnast though especially when she helped Daws lead the US to a silver medal at worlds about six weeks after fracturing her back in94 .
She didn't stick her vault on one leg....if she had, she would have not injured her other leg....shr landed on two feet....so....ha she did not win the Gold for the USA....if had already been won by the time she went to vault ha so.....ha
What are you talking about? Kerri was the last up to go in Atlanta and needed a 9.4 average. After falling on her first vault she had to go again on a broken leg to win the gold for USA. she may not have landed all the way on 1 leg but as soon as she hit the ground she picked the broken leg up and basically collapsed after soluting.
@@GwindorC Incorrect. After Dominique Moceanu fell on both vaults, the US team needed Kerri's vault or they would have lost to the Russians. Kerri fell on her 1st vault, the score was too low to clinch the gold and landed her 2nd vault, hense clinching the gold for the team. She recently said that 'finally, all eyes were on me'. You can Google it, wikipedia for Kerri Strug or any references will confirm it. I usually check my facts before commenting and that might not be a bad idea for you as well. Have a nice day!
@@debbieb5861 The beginning of your comment is an arrogant, one-word "incorrect." The end of your comment is a passive-aggressive "Have a nice day!" That is the most obnoxious combination. In any event, it has been established that the Americans would have beat the Russians even without Kerri Strug's second vault, since they drop the lowest vault score of each team. They didn't know that until afterward, though, because the final Russian gymnast hadn't completed her floor routine yet (at which she didn't score well). It says it right on Kerri Strug's Wikipedia page, and it's also in Dominique Moceanu's autobiography, "Off Balance." It also says it here in a 1996 issue of Sports Illustrated: "The U.S. would have won the gold without Strug's last vault, but neither she nor her teammates knew that at the time." www.si.com/vault/1996/07/24/216315/us-women-gymnastics-gold-1996-olympics-atlanta-kerri-strug Everyone wanted it to be the heroic, injured vault that saved the day, and it could have been, but ultimately the Americans would have won without it. I guess this time you dropped the ball in your pre-post fact-checking?
BW Coakley : I would say Yes. Dominique had a very difficult routine performed superbly. And she stuck her landing on what was called one of the most difficult dismounts. She was robbed.
Depending on the rules she may have had a 10.0 SV. She has two Ds and an E so if she was under AA rules she had 10.0, if EF she is at 9.90 SV. Shannon was at 10.0 regardless of rules as she had 3Ds and an E.
Amanda Borden was a member of the Magnificent 7 in 1996 and performed the best beam routine of her entire career during the team finals in Atlanta. Shannon was and is my favorite gymnast of all time but all the credit to Amanda for her perseverance and tenacity during her career!
I don’t know. I, too thought Kelli Hill looked like an admirable coach, but after hearing Dawes reflecting back on her time with Hill, it doesn’t seem like Kelli was all that great behind closed doors. Mary Lee Tracy has also come out as problematic. Not sure if I would want them to be influential as the Karoylis, because we all know how that turned out.
@@Janellabelle yep. She had flexed feet quite a bit throughout her career. She would be soft in her back on bars a lot too. She was good but personally, I never enjoyed watching her gymnastics as much as the ones that were much more artistic
I believe it did exist, the Japanese filmed the 1994 winter Olympics in HD, you can find that here on RU-vid. The US just didn't film or broadcast in HD at that time.
I was only 6 months old when this aired on television! My mom put me in gymnastics when I was 3 or 4 years old, and I quit after about two weeks! Nowadays I would rather watch this sport rather than actually do it!
Dominique wow what a talent she was! If she hit that same floor routine in All-Around in the Atlanta Olympics she would have been the Gold Medalist! Shannon was amazing on beam as always!
I'm not sure she would have won gold but she would have definitely medalled, because she still had vault and some other gymnasts had their higher scoring events coming up because the vault scoring in 96 was typically quite low
They look young because sometimes, well... they are forced to not grow up..... properly. Well, you know what i mean. The same thing happened to olga korbut. If you see this vid called korbut bio, it tells you all about it, and trust me, it ain't pretty.
What was the release move that Shannon did from low to high bar in the beginning of the routine? It almost looks like a bail except opposite going to low to high instead of high to low....
Yikes. After strugs routine, that forced hug from nunno cracks me up. Strugs face was like, "get away from me or else!" Or, "uh..... what.... what are you doing?"
Why does it seem like the judges are generous with shannon? I'm not saying she isnt good but her tumbling was short on floor simple turns she was all over then she generously rewarded.Then the beam was shaky on all fronts yet big scores.
So true Shannon was damn good this night but Dominique was just as good if not better but since she was the world champ at the time they gave her big scores that whole night, they did that a lot for her through her career.
Im not gonna say that she wasnt deserving of some of the praise but her weakest event was always floor and her bars was usually basic but big scores as usual.Also as for ms dawes her difficulty was always up there and her gymnastics was exciting because she took risk which was nice but her weakness strange enough was vault but then again her degree of difficulty was always up there its the execution.Her floor and beam were the best for me personally.
As much as they should "not"..judges award for body lines, which of course are beyong the gymnasts control. Dominique, in my opinion, was a better gymnast (most of the time) yet she us slightly bo-legged which makes her look not quite as clean. Even in today's gymnastics its the same. Many do not like Biles (even though she indisputably the best in the world...if not ever) yet being very muscular many do not like her "line". Its unfair and most judges will never admit to it..
I agree wit what you said, but since 2000 i have not looked at gymnastics anymore but Biles caught my eyes last year and I had to come back to look at her vids she is really good but sadly you are right the lines and size.What people need to get is that these girls have more difficulty plus must do 4 passes now when on floor it is obvious they would be bigger than the previous girls.Sigh i really do miss the old days
Kerri's problem is that she gives up too easily and she was always injured. She could've fought to stay on the beam @13:25. I think the only reason she did a 2nd vault in 1996 was because she wanted to beat Moceanu and stop being in the shadows like she was with Miller and Zmeskal.
Kim Thomas it’s like I never would have noticed the hop on landings or balance checks if he wasn’t constantly opening his mouth to hear himself talk! Thank goodness for his guidance! (Actually, he sometimes gives accurate information that isn’t all that obvious and I wish he would stick to that!)
That's proper sports commentary! In other countries we're always shocked by how bad US commentary is. We get into technical details in Australia and Europe and American commentators talk about athletes' personal lives. No wonder Americans never understand why they don't always win.
Tim Daggett at 10:45 in the video was speaking about Kevin Brown and him coaching Amanda Borden (at that moment), and that he trained a great gymnast Brandy Johnson. Ummmm, he also coached 92 Olympic Bronze medalist Wendy Bruce which I think would be a more important stat Tim (Yes Brandy Johnson was a great gymnast, but she never won an Olympic medal like Wendy did).
+James R But Wendy won a bronze medal as part of the US team in Barcelona. Brandy Johnson was a National Champion and won a silver on VT at the 1989 Worlds, which was unheard of at that time when the Soviets and Romanians dominated everything. The US wouldn't win another medal on vault for 17 years. Not to mention that the US team (Brandy Johnson was a key member) were the winners of team bronze in Seoul, but lost it due to a technical rule enforced by Ellen Berger from East Germany. In 1988, Brandy Johnson actually had the 2nd best vault score in vaulting finals, but that was before the new life rule, so she finished 5th. Brandy also made the AA finals at the Olympics. Wendy Bruce, while an AA finalist at the 1989 Worlds, did not make any finals in Barcelona. If you are comparing the accolades of both Bruce and Johnson, Brandy comes out on top.
+mchur001 I agree with your comment; plus Tim & Brandy were contemporaries, fellow '88 Olympians. he was also a newbie as a commentator. fast forward 10 or 15 years, I'm sure he would've added something along the lines of,"...& Barcelona bronze medalist, Wendy Bruce. "
It's not really a matter of opinion. He pretty much factually showed why Brandy Johnson is more noteworthy than Wendy Bruce. I knew little about either, and don't care about one over the other, and after reading his comment I'm pretty convinced Brandy Johnson accomplished way more than Wendy Bruce. Just seems like a matter of facts to me, not opinion.
Seems to me the judges definitely showed some favoritism.. growing up Miller was definitely my favorite.. but, watching this today and seeming Dawes and Miller both on the beam and both doing a solid routine and the point difference was shocking 😮
That's bull shit. Dominic was perfection on the beam and she's given a 9.675 Shannon Miller makes 2mistakes and her score was 9.8something. Unless you were a fucking golden child back then u were screwed!!! It's suppose to be about the sport the technique of the sport but it never is it's all about racism & politics!! I haven't the slightest why anyone would want to dedicate there entire life to something they're clearly not going to have any fairness in unless they have blonde hair and blue eyes. At least some thing's have gotten better since ´93.
That was the problem with Bela and Nunno "this is my time in the spotlight". It was about their egos not the gymnasts. You can see Shannon Miller deflating after beam routine...they just talk about the hop.....And those hideous scrunchies that Shannon and Kerri had to wear..
I LOVED scrunchies when I was a kid in the 90's and early 00's!!!! I do not see the scrunchies as hideous at all and probably was always wearing one to either gymnastics or dance when I was a kid/teenager!!!
It’s interesting to compare Steve Numno to Kelly Hill in terms of their coaching style. Steve got lucky with Shannon Miller, as she was already doing European style training and she was so determined to be perfect and to get it right. Meanwhile Kelly has had multiple elites who have had Olympic and world success, just as recently as Dicello 2021 world all around bronze medal.
The way these commentators were allowed to (and most definitely took upon themselves to) talk about the gymnasts back then is DISGUSTING!! They were SO incredibly negative! Also; Their weight being displayed along with their names is gross too!!
Tim is so annoying who calls back handsprings "flip flops"?? all he does is focus on the negatives like where deductions are being taken and what they did wrong never gives good commentary whoever made him a commentator should be fired out of a cannon
Flip flop is indeed the common name for the skill (back hand spring step out, which takes longer to say). Flic flac is usually reserved for “normal” backhand springs to two feet
Very normal response to a back handspring back then. I was an elite gymnast back then before I broke my back and more coaches than not, used that term.