[2.7] Time in Teyvat EXPLAINED - A Genshin Impact Theory 

Same! I was totally expecting Yanfei to have Ashikai’s voice since I haven’t built her yet and her story quest was so long ago

She sounds so much like Yanfei that I am convinced Yanfei broke the fourth wall with her adepti domain manipulation mumbo jumbo and started a RU-vid channel to create conspiracy theories about Teyvat.

me too

does that make it an identity theft? or something similar.

I literally think of Yanfei as Ashikai lmao

also miko kept telling us to be focused on our desire to see her, just like yanfei and her focus on the compass

Her point still stands tho, the reasoning as to why the traveler got to with at the end of the battle doesn’t change the fact that 600 something years passed within one hour for the traveler

@@ArgoBargo i think they were reinforcing her point

ooo baby we just unlocked time travel

@@ArgoBargo yes, from a stationary perspective, but WE deliberately travelled through time. The point is, if Ei's battle was longer or shorter by a fraction of a second, or if we wanted to go to some other point in time, (not too far, as i guess we would be crushed by spacetime), the proportion of time passage would be completely different, and not because of some small statistical fluctuation, but rather human choice

Ah!! I completely forgot about the tree root comment! Nice catch!

@@Ashikai also maybe this theory could explain how they would move on from the "teyvat chapter",by moving on onto another bubble domain,giving us a whole new setting and story

With this new bubble idea... if its a literal bubble, it'd make total sense to have some hydromancers go support its weakened points, assuming the Hexenzirkel ladies are hydromancers...

Oooh that does make sense, and the Hexenzirkel is known to do ley line tree explorations too, so they might be searching along the roots of the world tree to find the points where the borders of the world are. Oooh I like that, can’t wait till we meet some of the Hexenzirkel

Plus in honkai most bubble universes are shown to have their days(or millenia) counted, with quite a few of them slowly eroding into nothingness

you mean the Hexenzirkel, right? They were suspiciously only mentioned like once or twice despite their supposed importance - you might be onto something

@@ljunson hydromancers can't repair "space-time" bubbles... They're literal witches that do literal magic, they're also framed to be outrageously powerful, probably on par with archons which is kinda ridiculous... I hope we can get more info on the ladies who actually seem to run the show hahaha

we fixed the timeline by taking a hammer and smashing it-- i love it

@@goodnightprince we fix the timeline by breaking the timeline!

@@goodnightprince AKA every single story involving time travel.

@@louisaniathemagnificent8246 This is why we dont play with time kids :P

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galaxy- i mean domain brain energy.

Le paper buddy is ~chi-ki-tie-show Ehehehe shikitaishou

@@notraidenshogun8324 thank you! I’m always terrified of accidentally disrespecting people by mispronouncing or spelling their name incorrectly, especially foreign folk.

Also wasn't there a part where the gang was surprised Tartaglia fought for an entire day interrupted, and he was like "yeah, it was fun, didn't see time pass cuz I was having so much fun" and we just chalked it up to Childe being that much of a battle-thirsty gremlin

@@Ranakel YEA. God how does this nutcrackjob theory actually make sense lmao ashikai's got a weirdly great brain

@@A_Modern_Tragedy aww no problem buddy :)

That makes so much sense

Oh my god that’s genius

The Raiden Shogun has a Voice Over line in which she mentions both storms summoned by her hand and natural storms, so weather isn't controlled by the archons they just have a high degree of influence over it and then each archons worshippers attribute all weather to them.

Ohh....that might fit in with zhongli and azhdaha's whole erosion thing!

@@Darkedor oh you're right!

Doubt someone like that could have caused something like this. But haha would be interesting if that god fell here and thats why the space acquired such power.

I wonder if it could be the "Morphes" mentioned in the cryptic letter found in the Chasm. Morphes, or Morpheus, is associated with dreams in Roman mythology, cmiiw

@@zond3381 OO thats interesting thought. I myself have a thought that this space could have been created by another Shade and if Phanes-era is based on Antiquity, it could work.

Wait, this is the first time i heard that Xiao's former master is god of dream. I know Xiao was forced to eat dreams, but i thought it was some sort of yaksha ability that the master took advantage of him. Where should i read about this?

@@yama8124 Wasn't Xiao forced to eat souls instead of dreams though?

danngg what a good catch

damn it's morning here and i already 6 inch deep in existensial crisis

To add on to that, that could be why childe fell into the abyss. He found a portal that ripped through time and space which intersected the Human realm and the abyss realm. Since both are domains, Childe was able to travel through it like how Xiao passed through chaotic spaces. Furthermore, having enough power to form a rift between time and space itself between large scale “domains” could be a clue relating to the 3 different realms and how they come into play in the future

Thanks for watching! But i do have to correct you on something: Enkanomiya is not part of the light realm. The light realm came before humanity was even a thing and the vishaps were from there, as they were elemental beings and the light realm is also known as the elemental realm. But the elemental realm got warped into the ley lines which were then used to create the human realm. When the vishaps we're defeated by the primordial one many of them fled and ended up below ground and that's why they're down there. If you'd like a full explanation with citations I will provide a link to the wiki. genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Light_Realm

This comment is months late but I just want to say to the main comment @ reaper of things: nice observation 👍 Following what you have said about abyss heralds ability to travel between realms and trying to access pocket dimensions yadda yadda hoping to reach the correct realm, in Ch1 Act4: We will be reunited, was Dainsleif able to catch/follow the Abyss Princess/Prince? I just want to confirm since I kinda don’t remember whether Dainsleif was successful to catch up with the AP 😅 Also, since this would totally support what you’ve said.

Very possibly!!

@@Ashikai what if all this is a big samsara.

@@ykmnkmi i feel like this is the most "casual-ish" players' first thought since "We will be reunited" quest came out, but i can't find actual smart people who know this game way better (like Ashikai) talk about this

@@ykmnkmiUPDATE!!!!

Yes, but, we know Traveler is not from Teyvat originally, and that the siblings traveled as literal stars. They have six wings during the encounter with the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles, referencing Seraphim wings. I'm pretty sure they are not only not human, but also immortal, and (in gnostic terms) fragments of the divine monad. So they'll always have enough time for other reasons.

OMG! Calling the structures nails seemed random, but the nails piercing a bubble of Teyvat would really make sense!

I'd say the forming of the nails could be either intentional or accidental, breaking off from a larger structure, but the locations those nails were placed were most likely intensional. The Dragonspine one is for erasing the whole civilization there, and the Chasm one...maybe for sealing the messed up area we fell into?

I'm not sure how accurate this could be but that's an extremely interesting theory and I really like it tbh

@@shntnsh382 This feels like questionning whether the chicken or the egg was first. From lore I know about so far either or could be true.

Ohhhh I remember that "you can only either find out the exact position or the exact speed." and that even relative to others' existance. Essentially it's everything everywhere all at once, but the observer only can measure one and leave the other unknown. BUT, ISN'T THAT THE VERY REASON THAT THINGS CAME INTO EXISTANCE? THE OBSERVER BECOME THE ANCHOR?

Also dont forget the favor text on KFC wings, Alice notice the Teyvat becoming less stable as she is fixing them. "Teyvat's borders have grown fragile these past two years - looks like Mommy's going to have to get busy."

*hit Celestial nail on the head

Yanfei skin when??

@@Ashikai yess

Now that if u think abt it.. Sinbad does remind me of allogenes where humans can transcend into heaven & became a god like Venessa- sinbad become a god in the final manga right? Its been a long time i might be wrong

@@pokulock yes he did, its been a long time too since i finished reading it. He defeated Ugo whos kindda like a "God" or manager of the world they made for the new people to live in. Aaahhh so hard to explain 😂 its just so good!!! Sadly its underrated, and yah now i'm kindda think of genshin world like the world in magi hahahhaha.

Omg Magi reference FTW! It also made me think of how rukh/flow of rukh roughly correspond to the leylines in Genshin. Magi also uses demon names from the Book of Solomon. The Paimon in Magi is a bit different from our Genshin Paimon lmao. I had a hyperfixation on Magi in like 2015ish. Probably explains why I'm hyperfixating on Genshin

@@TairoruXRyuu ah yeeeeeees!! How am i so dumb to forgot about that?!! Right??? Rukh and the leyline, demon names, etc. What if genshin creators actually inspired its world building to Magi? 😍

Rukh and leylines hm.. i wonder if in Sumeru we'd get to know the dark side of the academia, just like Magnostadt arc of magi. Where they use outcasts/slaves as source for their magic tools energy. Maybe we'd get more info abt vision in sumeru?

Hmmm that’s a very interesting theory to think about

even though i don’t play it, zhongli in fortnite is something i really want to see

persona 5 please. you would work wonders here.

Even Witcher has the whole "Conjunction of Sphere's" thing, where multiple worlds smashed into each other

Reminds me of the time chill with aster (another lore youtuber) once said that Earth is canon in Teyvat through Alice and the KFC glider - in other words, Earth is another bubble - meaning we are characters from Genshin Impact. Genshin Impact world dominion?

That's what happened with Sacred Sakura.

@@Gnidel Oh yes, that's what I meant by "Timey wimey plant a tree in the pastsy BS" except I wrote pant instead of plant.

Man I know this is mostly about GAA and how it ties to the themes of time but just who IS Alice? Like she can just will a place into existence, casually mentions how the borders of Tevyat are fading and that she has “work to do”, and pretty much sums up the truth of the world of Tevyat in a children's book. Albedo mentioned in 1.6 that Alice is omnipresent-like, and while I think he was only being half-hearted, I genuinely don’t think he’s wrong after everything we now know.

That whole area is so sus. We don't even know its location. And it has things / leftovers from different nations. And let's not forget we used a wormhole in a puzzle to go back to mondstadt (while leading a seelie or something)

This was my thought too.. it's also in the dark sea so it's really sus.. and I always thought it's inclusion was strange and didn't fit. Just an island outside of teyvat with another culture? Didn't seem to be connected to anything.. and the entire island made mechanical by Alice? How would she have the ability to go underwater and create a mechnical platform... unless she willed the domain into it. And she is a mystic adventurer so I wouldn't be surprised if she knows how to manipulate domains. !!SPOILER LEAK!! 2.8 has the GAA again and it looks different and has different enemies in the center. Maybe everything there is a memory and the memories are changing which is why the map and enemies change..

definitely agree with all of this, the GAA also contained those shells with memories within them.

Didn’t albedo set all those up though for Klee as Alice instructed? this would mean he knows that its chaotic and knows how to manoeuvre it already. Wait- how did Albedo even ge t there 😭

@@knightofcarrion7358 The fact that character domains exist too. It’s literally willing people to see whatever you want. I’m just not understanding the Albedo aspect of how he set things up😭 Unless Alice just instructed him to imagine certain things and they’d show up? BUT THEN again How does that explain the random inazuman puppet left in there?? But the puppet did go mad right? So it’s maddening could be blamed on the chaotic energy of the domain. But the people?? Im so lost im so very lost. Theres no clues to them going mad either. Unless they weren’t real? A figment of the puppet’s memories? I’m so lost i’m so very lost.

Considering your second theory, then living beings growth rate is set to where they were born. Following that theory, kaeya should grow up slower than diluc because kaeya is from khaenriah. But in game, they grew up together with the same growth rate. Sorry if I sounded rude, I seriously don't mean to. I just thought you theory is interisting and i just want to discuss about it

@@rayhandinaufal4166 Oh that's a good point now that you've mentioned it, hmm... One possibility though that could make the theory still valid is that Kaeya, though being from Khaenria, wasn't born in Khaenria but in Teyvat, IF assuming a certain bunch of people from Khaenria (including his father) somehow survived the Cataclysm. Since where Kaeya was born and the circumstances surrounding it isn't canonically confirmed yet, its still an open possibility imo. And no of course you're not being rude haha, I like to discuss these things as well, I'm not that much of a theorist so I could be wrong as well. I actually hadn't considered it from that exact perspective before either (of people's growth rate being set to where they were born) so thanks for pointing that out!

Love that movie and so true for Genshin if this theory is correct!

I’m sorry that made me think of everything, everywhere, at the end of time lmao XD

Thank you!

So wise

damn

LITERALLY was just thinking about this same thing. Could also explain why Istaroth "disappeared" from history. At one point in time, Venti could have been Istaroth who traveled through time. She left but then came back to around the same point when she first disappeared, but this time as Venti. To mortals who can't perceive time (like with Ei who planted a tree in the present-day and it appeared in the past) they would have always assumed Mondstadt always had two separate Gods instead of one that just altered their appearance. Of course, this doesn't explain why Venti first appeared as a tiny wisp. Or does it? Perhaps like Guoba, Istaroth had somehow become weakened to the point of a tiny wisp? Well, Venti is either Isaroth themself or a shade of istaroth.

@@lahie16 (Long comment here. Tl;dr = Venti being Istaroth herself makes so much connections to lore points it is well within the realm of possibility) A wild speculation but to match yours (if Venti IS Istaroth), he could be present and actively participated during the war between the First and Second Throne and got weakened when it is over (wisp-ified?). Perhaps why all the weird timey wimey things happened is because the God that’s supposed to be overseeing time itself has essentially lost most of their power (Assuming that the Four Shades are very important gods for the stability of Teyvat) It kind of matches the timeline (if we can still call it that...) since iirc from the video, the furthest back we can go to have concrete evidence of distorted spacetime between domains is the fall of Enkanomiya which suspiciously coincides with the war between the First and Second Throne. It may also explain why tf Venti is connected to Teyvat’s lore EVERYWHERE. The bard would’ve been hopping around the bubbles like noone’s business. If he had a role in sustaining the stability of the bubbles then it makes sense that he would answer the prayers of Enka; likely not voluntarily but he ended up there to do a quick check-up, throw up some wisdom for the Dainichi Mikoshi (could be a bubble’s anchor) which fits his nature of “letting people do the work” perfectly, and peaced out. Venti being weak would also make sense. He isn’t “weak” per se, but maybe it’s more to conserve his power for bubble maintenance? It makes sense to conserve your power for smaller issues to deal with a bigger one. Noone in genshin mentioned Barbatos being the weakest than Venti himself, and we all know how Venti can lie as naturally as breathing (looking at his fabricated tales of Barbatos). Explains why he’s so calm about losing the gnosis, it never mattered to him. Additionally, Venti is the only archon so far that never mentioned nor cared about erosion on HIMSELF. Erosion is caused by forces such as wind over TIME. The God of Time wouldn’t need to be so worried over the effects of their own element. We already have proof of that from fighting Ei in 2.0-2.1; she is immune to attacks of the electro element. So who’s to say that Venti as the Time God isn’t immune to the ravages of time? Venti seems to be more worried of the effects of erosion on OTHERS and their legacy. You might say that he meant immortalizing others through prose and song, but we already know those stories will be eroded by time. Venti would also know that considering stories of the Time God itself is forgotten by the people of Mond. So immortalizing someone’s legacy is impossible unless....the storyteller THEMSELVES are immortal and is constantly refreshing the memory of the world, like what Venti is doing as a bard. He is confident of his own ability to retain his sanity and memories because he isn’t affected by erosion as he’s the time god. Also explains why the Abyss Order is most active in Mond. Seriously, why are they the “main antagonists” only in Mond? Liyue and Inazuma’s main antagonists are the Fatui but in Mondstadt? Dvalin nearly got brainwashed, Andrius was targetted once, and the defiled statue thingy that everyone almost forgot about. If we take into account of the Abyss Order’s desire to bring back the glory of Khaenri’ah, could it be that they target Mondstadt spesifically to collect the power of it’s archon as the ruler of time? After all, if they can turn back time, then they could go back 500+ yrs to Khaenri’ah pre-cataclysm and change their fate against the gods. But hey, this is just a speculation ^_^ Feeling like a conspiracy theorist considering this “theory” is not so common as the assumption that Paimon is the Time God. But I never subscribed to that theory, it seems too obvious, almost like a red herring. If anything I believe Paimon to be the weakened Shade of Space, considering her close banter and matching Trinity knot motifs with Venti, the weakened Shade of Time. When the game menu stops to turn forward time, and we’re using the power of one of the Four Shades (Shade of Time, Istaroth), wont it make sense that the rest of the Three Shades, or even Phanes himself, would be unaffected? It’s baseless but, it is likely the whole time menu game mechanic thing is Venti’s doing, as he got a gimmick of giving his power for others to do his, though benevolent, bidding. After all, iirc, grass is still moved by the wind even when the menu opens. When Istaroth/Venti exerts their power, why would Paimon/Shade of Space be frozen like everyone? After all, they’re on the same calliber.

considering they show similarities to the gnosis, my current speculation would be, that vision started to appear around the archon war, bit another thing to note: celestia isn't directly imprisoning or removing vision bearers from the ley lines, we actually met ley line memories of some in Eis story quest. So far their purpose only seems to be a container for ambitions and an element...

Well i think it's when the archons system was established that's when visions started. It's like a new regime by Celestia. In the vishap/seelie eras there were no humans. Wait, after Writing the 2nd part, it hit me, We have non-humans vision holders, like Yae miko, albedo, Sara, sucrose, etc... So that leads to some confusion. Like were gods /beasts had visions or something? That's just me displaying random ideas 😅

@@akramgenshingaming problem with yae: she might as well have smth like the inner 3rd eye l, but won't tell us...

@@akramgenshingaming at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if ambition is what attracts elemental energy to the bearer, which in turn is then filtered by the vision, ashikai had after all a vid already about elemental energy showing radiative behavior

Theory: Archons are gods that were tasked to take care of the pillars that keep the domain stable. Those pillars are manifested as gnosises. Celestia made visions to be somewhat similar to gnosises in effort to stabilise Teyvat further. The leader/-s of wishaps were original owners of gnosises, but they did not have visions. Because of that, they had to be able to adapt rapidly, since Teyvat itself was unstable and everchanging. They also may have ended up in different domains from time to time (since there was always lots of them around strange gate things in Enkanomiya) I have no idea about moon sisters or seelies tho. (Pls excuse my terrible spelling)

You bring up a good point. The nails may have two functions, to sever an anchor and essentially Force an area out of the world and into its own domain, and to seal up the leak that gets left behind. If we think of them that way then they can be both a weapon and a blessing...

It's funny you say that because I've been thinking of the leylines like some kind of mycorrhizal network that connects a bunch of plants together. Interesting.

Thats true. Also when someone's vision gets confiscated, their strong ambition and desires also cease to exist. And they lose part of their memory.

Also, whenever someone’s Vision grows strong enough to Ascend to Celestia and become Allogenes. Lisa once looked into the truth of Visions and what she saw scared her so badly she stopped being ambitious and basically refused to continue growing in power. According to some, Celestia actually takes the form of a prison, where the Allogenes are held. Soooo, looks like your little theory just might be true.

@@artsyrenjuns4710 "Also when someone's vision gets confiscated, their strong ambition and desires also cease to exist." But not always, as we see with Itto. His Vision was confiscated and from everything we're shown...he didn't seem to have changed appreciably as a result of it.

@@anaplaysstuff but itto is also not human. non humans might not follow the same rules. key point, most if not all of the non humans had elemental powers before they got their visions. even half humans like ganyu stated she still had cryo power before she got her vision. if anyone knows of any non humans in genshin who are confirmed to not have special power without visions i'd be interested to hear it.

@@xXzman9000Xx Humans can use elements before getting vision too. Mona claimed that her vision does nothing to her but make her wet.

Hard to say. We know Harunosuke traveled to liyue to study adeptal arts, iirc, so at the very least I'm going to assume that people can learn how to modify them. I think repurposing spaces is also very possible.

Ohhh I love this

Forgot to add: The tataragami would also fit into this. The last thoughts of a killed god would be resentful so they shaped their surroundings into a resentful one. ...So if a lingering thought is strong enough to shape the surroundings, maybe it is strong enough to shape humans (into being more powerful= delusions?)

Just to quickly answer your question, at the end of the quest they do state very clearly that the compass is actually an amplifying device and that is its primary purpose. Therefore it's not so much that the compass is stealing the space but the compass was probably amplifying the abilities of the one using it and the one who was using it was creating the seal.

@@Ashikai Oh........ So the big compass doory place was just changing itself according to all the characters own memories and wants So all the domains and spaces we saw down there were all created by the nails power? I mean like how the wishgranter stone was creating illusions for the people but on a much bigger scale Also didn't you find it odd that how we actually end up with the compass is because traveler's will to find their sibling conjured their sibling who wanted to see the traveler be safe so that conjured/illusion twin manifested the fantastic compass. According to Yanfei anyway, How does the twin know of the fantastic compass? Is the nail actually alive? I mean with it trying to draw us deeper in the space and trap us there? So it begs the question Were those really illusions or real things that the nail was creating just based on the person's memories and wants? What is that nails power really? 🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️🙆‍♂️