2 Clicks Out: Motorcycle Shock Static Sag 

If you think this is impressive, wait till you see Dave look at a rear tire and tell the rider what food he had for dinner the night before.

I'm betting everyone went out to their bike and tested for static sag after this video. Loving your work brother!

You sir, are the Gordon Ramsey of motorcycles. But much friendlier

"Are you riding a chopper ? No you are not. So why should you suffer the indignity of riding one?" Words right there. Thanks Dave for the amount of info any enthusiast riders can get from your channel and expertise.

It’s refreshing to see a confident expert, not trying to show off, just educating people and showing them how to be better. Excellence shouldn’t be a dirty word. Cheers.

I like the fact that he does this on a variety of different motorcycles.

Love how Dave constantly educates the riders of the bikes he's tuning

@4:36 static inception. I have now found a new joy.... 1 coffee + 1 new Dave Moss video. 🙏🏻

This is really important . This guy's knowledge and work undoubtedly has and will save lives. Very cool.

Dave's a combination of loving his job & having almost zero patience for people with zero preload lol

Static sag with the bike under its own weight should be 15-25mm in the front and 10-15mm in the rear with cold suspension. Rider sag should be a totally separate number. Add both together. Static sag creates a dead space so when the shock (most important) tops out it does not ping you straight out of the seat.

im def scheduling some sort of remote session with you Dave when the weather here in NJ gets nicer and im back on my '18 triumph street triple RS more... pure magic these vids!

Thanks for promoting safe riding and putting people in the know or at least getting them to think about it some

Sir Dave Moss. You may have saved my life by the importance of correct suspension settings. I no longer bounce around corners but smoothly progress around corners. I am now in my 70 so I thank you so much for your advice from NZ where we have a lot of bumpy roads.

This is why I love riding my Multistrada with DSS. JUST PRESS A BUTTON and it figures it out for me and it has taught me how it should feel when properly setup. Watching Dave has taught me the mechanics of what I already knew but needed to see it being implemented. Thanks Dave, your simply amazing.

Great camera angle and explanation on multiple set ups! Beautiful

Been riding all my life and still learned some really useful stuff from this vid. Thank you!

Excellent video and free knowledge, thank you Dave.

Dave Moss is such a genius that when he talks very few people can keep up with him.

knowledge and humor personality make it easy to like this , nice to watch and learn something along.

I just came across your video, and I subscribed. Thanks for waking me up to properly setting up my bike Sir!!! Now I can have a safer ride at 64 yrs old!!

Truly therapeutic to watch. Informative too!

Dave, your accent, I can't place it - but I don't need to. This is straight down to earth facts, clearly you know your science and there is none of the repetitive bluster of so many other channels. Maybe thats not an accent, that is the voice of knowledge and experience. This is absolute mustard.

Your a top bloke!. I have a 2001 R1 & MT-09 2022 which was easy to ride, I followed your steps and did all adjustments, The bike glides around, I'm amazed at how smooth wheelies are now. They should show your videos when people get there learners. You save lives

Thank you Dave!! Thank you for all your videos

Thanks for many answers,top notch.

I learned a thing or two and a few chuckles along the way. Cheers 👍

The person/s at Yamaha who chose the suspension and base settings for the 2018/19 MT07 needs a good slap 😄...Can't wait till I upgrade

reasonable static sag just shows you that you have a reasonable suspension spring if its set for you with reasonable rider sag. ie zero static sag usually shows you have too light a spring fitted because you have to put a stack of preload on it to stop it sagging too much because of your weight.

I went and took a click out of preload on the back of my bike because of this video. I kinda think I had static sag but now I am sure I have some. Have to see how the bike rides tomorrow

much appreciated for all the examples Dave! I watched your other vids to learn what each suspension setting do and learned where to find them all on my '10 Z1000. just missing the C spanner wrench, but once I get that I hope to fix the stiff suspension problem on my bike soon! I never re-adjusted after previous owner and he was doing a lot of stunts, so I bet he set suspension to hardest levels ... rear is killing my butt over road bumps on highway, smacks my own rear-end so hard sometimes that it hurts to the point I brace myself before each one LOL .... time to first document what each one is at and change that and I think I can do it the right way by checking for static and rider sag, rebound, etc. Great vids! I will definitely be sharing those with fellow riders!

Not only working on there Bikes u have to deal with customers.Great Job Dave

Dave is a credit to the biking community.

Great video. Thanks for sharing. Keep the good work Dave! It's a life saving advice even on a street riding.

Very informative video's Dave. Great stuff

Just checked the static sag on my 2018 MT - 07. Absolutely none with all the pre-load removed. Hitting big bumps on the highway does make me want to fly off my bike. Thanks Dave! for teaching me why my bike is doing that to me.

Not sure why only 47k subscribers. It’s fast, clear, without talking too much. Once some time ago I have used PB Uk magazine chart they did with group of bikes. I followed that chart for zx6r, risen rear height, soften rear spring (a lot) added preload to the front forks, played some clicks with compression. This was only based on tester weight, so not really custom setup. It was really different from factory setup anyway. I mean the bike was completely different, it was amazing, softer and more friendly on the road, but way sharper to turn and nimble because of added rear height. Guys! Don’t do crazy upgrades, don’t buy shit you don’t need. Make sure you have good tyres and do professional suspension setup! You will be amazed. Most of bikers should watch his videos to get the idea. Thank you Dave!

Love this guy stay strong Dave Moss,

valuable information thank you for shearing 👍 we even lowered our bike 30 mm mounting longer 🦴 dog bones and 15 mm in the front forks after adjusting the static’s i think an adjusting of the low beam on the headlight are also necessary

I can tell that the camera man has a lot of interest . As he knows exactly where that spanner is going & where he needs to be to get the best shot . Would love Dave to set up my enduro bike

You are watching a master at his craft.

My conclusion from this video... there is my bike... and then there is my bike's hidden potential for giving me a better ride after applying these tuning tips.. can't wait to try this and unleash the bike within.

This guy is a suspension wizard.

Thank you, Dave!

Great knowledge on suspension

There’s only two people in motobike world you need to know. Mechanical topics Dave and riding topics MotoJitsu.

I have watched tis video several times but not got around to checking this my concentration on front end etc/runs revealed despite rider sag matching front some discomfort on some sharp bumps. Checked static rear found barely 4mm adjusted preload now very close to 10mm for my GSXR 1000 K4 suspension fitted K2 - cheers. Look forward to next run out to check results.

Wow I want to check my bike now Dave your great mate (Y)

THANK YOU! Ill see mine later.

Thank you for vídeo class I'm try on my bike here in Brazil. Idid change the rear shock tree times already because mecanics sad that the shock went bad.

A few mm here and there makes all the difference and also makes Dave Moss a nice living.

At least one man know what he is doing!!!

This dude is a awesome at his job

"How long have you owned the bike?" "6yrs" ...oh my... I'm about to buy my first street bike and I've seen so many DMT videos the first thing I'm going to do is adjust everything lolol. I only wish Dave was around my area.

man you kept me watching these videos non stop... i got to work!!! shit... awersome stuff you have here!

as a chopper rider i never even suspected of the indignity i was suffering , i shaw go and inform all of mi friends about this and we will all go on GSX R'S . I am onlyt joking ofc as i assume you are as well , lets respect all riders eh :D . Great vids , the only indigniity i have suffered over the years is i never knew of your chanell before yesterday so now i am binging it all , it is quite unhealthy but at least it will keep me off that chopper :D .

The bat man fz1 I've seen that before 😂👍🏼✌🏼

this info is so useful , thanks for posting . .

A motorcycle is such an alluring machine. It's the capacity for speed and acceleration and the roar of the sweet aftermarket exhausts that draw you in. Then you realize you know nothing about how they actually work. Have respect for your bike. It can make you look real cool but it can also make you look real stupid.

the man is a wizard

I am a new subscriber to your channel and so far I am very impressed with what I see there is a lot of things I did not understand and realize with bikes my name is Nigel noble I am all the way from Guyana that's in the South America

Thanks Dave my Street triple was showroom set with too much rear preload. It didn't budge and felt light in the rear on breaking, and hard on bumps. Two clicks longer and feels good.

"sometimes fancy it cost more money for no reason" an advice from the expert for all newbies that all show no performance, stock is the best afterall

thinking about starting to ride at the age of 41 .. not sports .. but street bikes ... no license yet .. nor bike ofc .. and still i`m looking at this vid .. find it interesting as hell haha

Aren't you afraid, that removing too much preload will make the bike wallow in turns? I would love to have Dave fit my bike. I am impressed.

Great video I've become obsessed with watching them thanks for all the great tips, any plans of bringing your tools to the uk?

Dude on the 899 has a killer license plate in case you haven't noticed 10:51 :p

First you have to check if the spring is the stock spring. Sometimes a former owner mounted another one because of his weight or he is alway's driving with a passenger. In other words you have to change the spring. When they don't want another spring the compromize it with such a hard spring with no static sag. So there is mostly a reason wy they choose for no static sag.

Dave you need to come to massachusetts. Cycle gear in woburn, ma. We spoke last season about this but due to schedule and financial reasons you werent able to make it. If you came during a bike night im positive we could get 50-100 bikes to show up.

I just bought a used bike that came with box of parts ...mainly emission stuff but ALSO a shock spring ...the stock spring according to second owner/seller I bought from. Now the spring on the bike has a clear to read number on it ...is there somewhere to reference what the number means? I tried to ask one shop and they did not even reply...

This guy is intense

Dave, I really enjoy the education you put forth and very greatful for all the effort you give to help the riding community. But you have given me a severe case of spanner wrench envy! Who makes that spanner? and where would I be able to obtain one like it?

I was in a band called Static Sag, Bon Jovi Tribute, great vid bro!

Such an excellent video tutorial Dave. I plan on using your directions to start the set-up on my 2013 RSV4 for some canyon runs this weekend. However, I would like to know if *before any* of the SAG measurements are you supposed to completely back off (Unloaded / Zero) the Pre-load, Compression and Rebound settings for both Front and Rear Shocks ?

Wished we had you here in Denmark :-)Would love to have a course with you,

Dave just got a new 22 aprilia rsv factory... My god there chassis is phenomenal... you probably already know this..:)

I've noticed my gf is starting to have static sag 😭

Real pro he is

Dang Kawasaki i can't even see my adjustment for the rear. Probably have to take the wheel off. Hopefully mine is good, i know its not terrible. Good video.👍

reference working on the GSXR, I had to notice, he has got good knees. I would not be able bounce down and back to my feet so often and so effortlessly LOL

Static sag,is used to determine if the spring weight is correct for the rider.

6 years without rear sag holy.....

Amazing to watch a master at work. I'm wondering if static & dynamic sag should be around the same as these road bikes as opposed to my 07 BMW R1200gs which doesn't have ESA. I dirt ride a lot. Awesome channel thank you.

It amazes me how popular lowering links are these days - I think it’s a part of the same issue: folks trying to lower their bike by compressing the shock spring.

Which I knew somebody like this in Houston.

Great to see the enthusiasm you have in setting up riders safely. Please confirm that my reasoning is correct. If rear travel is 90mm then I need total of 30mm sag ( ie 10mm static sag and 20mm rider ) I assume that the measurements are taken with the bike on ground not centrestand?? Also if I take a pillion then the suspension will need to be firmed up, won’t this reduce the static sag??

That shock toasted.

Take a shot every time he says 'bump' ahah what a legend you are sir.

I don't like that not a single rider rode and tested before / after feeling.. im a larger rider myself. and ive set my bike to have MINIMAL static sag, and i focused more on rider sag. my bike felt like complete poop when setting it up how others "suggested" after measuring everything myself and starting with factory suspension settings the bike woke right up. I then followed a very trusted suggestion of them saying to stiffen everything up tight just like the GP riders. You HAVE to absolutely consider Cornering stability, and also straight line stability. braking stability and on/off throttle stability. From my personal experience (and it may not be worth much) i found INFINITELY more confidence through corners when i tightened the bike up. i absolutely did not like coming on throttle and feeling the rear end squat/sag while im flying through a corner flat out. It made my trajectory unpredictable at best. i also noticed that the softer rear makes the bike turn response duller? when i had the bike stiff everything was SHARP. i could avoid anything. like i said my confidence was through the roof when i measured/stiffened the bike based on FACTORY specifications. (never listen to the guy that doesnt start from factory) In my final conclusion i would like to see track times. Bike performance is first priority. Rider comfort is second.

I'm checking sag now, even though it's 2:54 am.

I can even imagine someone else knowing how much he knows about this balancing and customization fitting. Like he says, you can buy something that has some great reviews and then find that it doesn't fit you. He does need bedside manors ,but you can't read into that. He's doing his job and providing a service that can make or break you. I was going to get rid of a bike I thought I couldn't handle for comfort, only to realize he's correct, fit the bike. Any one can sell you a bike and even after doing all your home work realize, after him adjusting it to your frame and needs..Omg I would of lost thousand of dollars thinking maybe i was to old for this bike. personally I don't need fluff and you got to take it after

how much of static sag is enough ,street bike ,now my sag is 32 and free sag or static is 10mm , rebou is ok ,but i still feel the bike is loose

19:30 Dave giving more action because of the female presence. testosterone booster lamoooooooo

Dave I would like to ask you please what's the changes in suspension I need to do after upgrading to carbon fiber wheels. Thank you

And here I thought getting bucked out of the seat after a bump was just part of riding a sportbike in the city. Time to start experimenting with suspension.

Hi Dave, first of all thanks for the video. My motorcycle is honda transalp xl 650. What should be the static and rider sag values? Thanks

Dave given the fact that bicycles weigh so much less should my mountain bike have static sag on the rear shock? I've got it set up with about 24% ride sag, (12mm) but I'm wondering if there should be any static sag what are your thoughts. It's a trek fuel ex5. it weighs 32 lbs, it has a RockShox Monarch air shock on the back and a RockShox silver Recon Fork up front.

U know imma be going round pressing on bikes saying nah m8 no static sag ..

That last guy who needs a new spring makes me wonder if Dave meets a lot of people who are "bike poor". The way he asked if the guy can afford another 150 bucks towards a 10k bike makes me think it's not uncommon.

I found your channel recently and been binge watching. I found that most people who came to you don't even take care of their bike properly. Their chain is dry and rusty in some cases. Sad to see that