20 Things You Missed in "Perilous Trail" Archon Quest (Genshin Impact Theory & Speculations) 

Imagine if the devs realized her horns would make sleeping hard and so made them soft...

Same

I didn't even realise Yanfei had horns until now XD

there is multiple sleeping positions u can have so even if they were hard there would be a way she could sleep still . I mean the horns are aimed towards the back if she lays face first on the pillow then yeh xD that works

I wonder what happens when you squeeze the antlers, they look so squishy. Does milk come out? Edit: maybe that's how cocogoat milk is made, since Yanfei is half adeptus. Yanfei was the real cocogoat this whole time.

i’m pretty sure it would be the latter

If u notice after traveler get in to see they fear..it seem like paimon been acting weird like she been extremely panic and tired after they got separated!! And if i think what travelers see in that room is not the abyss but the true sky exactly (True sky of teyvat) or ( a road before they entered teyvat)..

Well, it just some hypothesis and maybe my delusion.. haha

@@taliputus229 It was a little sus when Paimon got tired and not the traveler... It made me wonder whether Paimon is related to the abyss or not

Hmm I am kinda sus that Yelan didn't go in. I mean sure she give excuse of being afraid some secrets from Ninnguang would get exposed but if you ask me she just don't want to show how close she is with Ninnguang. As far as Paimon goes... I think Paimon is afraid the truth about her would get exposed whatever that is. She may be hiding something...noticed how she can act like complete kid most of times but on rare occasions she would say some really profound and smart things? I could be imagining things tho.

I can the millileth ate by the space

So basically Yanfei hurled fireballs at the Milelith's face who defended the Chasm😀

@@rickybealittlebitsilly they're not humans anymore, but yes

Tbf, I think they left it ambiguous like this so we can interpret it how we want. I know a lot of people love to say it’s xiao’s karmic debt, I like that thought too, but I also like this.

i thought we were traveling through the ley lines

Which NPC are you talking about ?

@@gunjitkumar the fatui in monstadt who stand next to the waypoint

More like Fatui actions cause childe just did what he was ordered (Correct me if I am wrong cause I am not sure either)

@@amberbestdps2048 ordered or not, it doesn't make anyone less guilty.

@@amberbestdps2048 and tbf, it wasn’t ordered, it was his back up plan if he himself couldn’t find the gnosis, and he didn’t know zhongli was the geo archon either, yet had his suspicions. It was because he knew we didn’t have the gnosis he just decided to drown the city. He did it to lure out the archon, but signora forgot to mention he was already there with it

More channel do their homework too. You must find them all

@Harry Shade Yea but they don't cover changed npc dialogs and other small details. They are more of a theory channel.

I really like Chill with Aster

Same same same

This is more like a theory and I'm literally okay with that. But to be honest, I don't like to discuss theory with others (bcz everyone will have different opinion, different bias, ofcourse) that's why I prefer to watch videos like this alone and just have fun with people's crazy theories, yet I never take them too serious. In terms of genshin lore, I watch another channel called "World of Teyvat" bcz they often talked about the game's real backstory, not just a theory. Character's lore, Npc's lore, place's lore, lore from main quests and side quests

She didn’t make a contract with zhongli so she won’t suffer the wrath of the rock😃

@@2triedforthis830 The hiluchurls in every commission doesn't have a contract yet i give them the wrath of the rock every day😀

@Erwin Archlight 451 what’s Yanfei’s and Zhongli’s contract?

Oh wow 😅

@@quackquackDUCKS dudes can’t get a single W lmao

Makoto did said that Khaenriah is not a place the Seven can ignore.. so there must be something..

About the archons and Khaenri'ah, I can't stop correlating parts of the 7 sunchildren's story with the 7 archons - as both seem to be puppets pulled on strings to do horrible deeds

So the twin did wake up before the traveler and traveled the world with Dain. but what I cant understand is why he/she didnt wake the other one? from what I understand of the timeline, they arrived together, one of the twins woke up first, explored the world and when they saw Khaenriah's destruction they woke their sibling to leave Teyvat, but got cubed by the Sustainer, is that right?

The gnostic chorus heirs, I think, might be a parallel to the twins, which would support the point, that they are not from Khaenri'ah/Abyss/whatever was there before Khaenri'ah. However, I think, the twins might have some other agenda and/or won't come out as the moraly superior at the end of the story. Well at least one of them. Thats mainly because of the way the traveler acts kinda weird sometimes and keeps stuff to himself, although it could just mean he's insecure for some reason. It is also kind of sus, that they just travel between worlds like that, like, what happened to their original world. Overall, there probably won't be a clear good guys - bad guys situation. Of course, all of this is, if we asume they actually travelled between worlds.

@@fuitygummy2899 I think the Khaenriah stuff happened after they got separated, why the twin didn't wake up the other twin is probably because they were separated and the twin couldn't find the other one but who knows, maybe they did try to escape the destruction of Khaenriah but was then separated but to me what kinda doesn't make sense is how long were we stay asleep for? How can 500 years go by just like that with us never meeting our twin a single time?

Really?

Yeah i tried it. The receptionist said it was under new management which is yelan. The two guards just stay silent or say something like hmmm.

yes i was confused that she was no longer rude to us

yeaaa and she even pretended that you were never "unwelcome" like she wanna hide it from Yelan. I also noticed that..but yea it makes sense when you do Yelan story coz new managament kinda thing...still it's crazy how same employees chaned so much. I would expect new employees or something but no. but yeah we still can't physically walk inside the building.

​@@altheajenniferreyes3477 Chuyi's still pretty condescending.

zhongli hurled mountain-sized spears at a sea snake so. Seems pretty normal to me HAHAHAHAH.

@@Scrayla yeah I also think that they can't simply go against an Archon. It would turn other Archons completely against them too

That fact always comes off as very odd to me as well. Celestia apparently sentenced Orobashi to death for reading Before Sun and Moon, a book in Enkanomiya which is deep underground with no exposure to sunlight at all. How did they figure out Orobashi even touched that book? Meanwhile here is Tsaritsa with her Fatui, out in the open at Teyvat’s surface, taking gnosis after gnosis in a supposed rebellion. But Celestia isn’t even doing anything (as far as we know). It seems very sus to me, especially since gnosis are explicitly stated as to be a CONNECTION to Celestia. Wont the gods up there know something’s up the moment 3 archon gnosis left their owners at a short time period? I speculate that there is more to Celestia than a group of power-hungry gods. Maybe they have their own justification on their actions, just like the Fatui and the Abyss as we’ve seen throughout the story. Which is why I’m still a bit hessitant as to who to side with, everything seems very gray. Khaenri’ah got nuked, but they aren’t exactly saints either with their whole “tilling fields of blood” thing going on for them. Hell, we dont even know who struck first in the Cataclysm. For all we know Khaenri’ah may as well called the first shots. We really don’t know the whole story yet. And personally, I think divine tyranny is a bit of an overused trope. It’ll be a bit anticlimactic if Celestia is truly the big bad with only evil intentions without nuance.

@@baggiemaggie3832 That actually makes sense! Like how do they know about Orobashi and straight up ignoring the Tsaritsa... We 'know' celestia are the bad guys and Orobashi learned the truth about them by reading the book, but why exactly does the cryo archons wants to start a rebellion? If she knew the truth wouldn't they sentence her to death as well? And wouldn't that make the abyss and her on the same side, kinda? Also in the manga, venti doesn't really seem to like Celestia. I dont exactly know what celestia wants but i wont be surprised if they were powerhungry. When Vanessa ascended, celestia looked like one of those jails with some really higher ups with power. And even if Venti is pretty sussy, my intuition tells me he is trustworthy. Or well, the archons in general. Zhongli ofc he sounds sus, but as the god of contracts he has to hold his contract with them, or Ei having already stopped using her gnosis. The archons might all of them be in it for the tsaritsa rebellion. Eg. venti when Signora stole his gnosis, he didnt use his archons powers (aka glowing braids) to defend himself..couldve all been an act. Maybe he still knows her well after 500 years, but maybe he's lying for some reasons

@@nottea5978 You brought up good points as well, and I’ll try to respond to them How I see it, I think genshin so far as 3 factions: the Abyss Order, the Fatui/Tsaritsa, and Celestia. Although Tsaritsa and Abyss Order share the same goal of toppling Celestia (or their principles? not too sure if Tsaritsa actually wants to kill them or smthn) I dont think their end goal is the same. Iirc, the Abyss Order wishes to bring Khaenri’ah back, but I doubt the Tsaritsa also has the same mission. Perhaps they have a different motive as to what to do to a Celestia-less Teyvat? The Abyss seems to have much more sinister goals in my opinion. Maybe that’s why they didn’t ally. And about the whole Celestia is a prison thing (the word you’re looking for is a panopticon ;) ) I think it’s not the case. If anything, the central Celestial area seems more like a coloseum; or perhaps even a Celestial “senate” with the balconies being places where the higher gods stand and discuss things. In the end, if it was truly a prison, why did they release Vanessa back to Teyvat? She did flew down back to Mond where Venti noticed her in the manga. In addition...the place seems so....deserted for a prison. Where are the prisoners? or the guards??? Why was there no sign of life there? Not even a single celestial god to “greet” the newcomer (Vanessa). So yeah, I think it’s more like a government building than a prison. And Vanessa apparently went in during a day off hahaha. I do agree that the archons are one of the most sussiest set of characters in-game, but in my opinion Venti takes the cake. I trust his intentions but I cant say I trust his word. He’s an unreliable narrator and is shown to lie easily in situations (Remember the first time we met him; he outright told us Anemo Archon Barbatos hasn’t been around. Or in his story where he lies about Barbatos’ deeds as a bard) He’s hiding something. I daresay, we practically know nothing about Venti/Barbatos! His story revolves around his Nameless Bard Friend and all, but when have we heard anything about himself? He never told us his own story, about where he came from and what he even is. He always redirects our questions to be about other people. He seems to be the scheming type, so I cant deny the possibility he isn’t following his own agenda. With the Enkanomiya update confirming his ties with Istaroth, God of Moments/Time, part of the First Throne of Heaven, it’s no wonder he dislikes current Celestia. Maybe Celestia is the second throne, so as one from the First Throne of the Primordial One, he dislikes the current ruling body of Celestia. Thus even if he doesn’t agree with the final mission of the Fatui, he went along with their plans. All in all, I think everyone’s sus in genshin... So far we heard the Abyss Order’s side and (part of) the Fatui’s side. But the fact I want to push out is...what about Celestia’s side? I am very curious as to why they’re...doing all this. We cant rule out bias from the Fatui and the Abyss, of course your enemies are terrible; that’s why you’re fighting them. So personally I am very looking forward to the nuance on Celestia’s side. What they did to Orobashi and the civilizations were terrible, but there has to be a reason moreso than “uh oh progress and ambition!” because if that’s the case, why is Snezhnaya and Fontaine, the two technologically advanced nation, not smited yet? The Pyro Fatui even has a gun! I think it hinges more to forbidden knowledge, but if that’s the case, why isn’t the Tsaritsa and the Abyss twin on their hitlist? Celestia so far in the current time seems so...inert. Like they don’t actually care. What are they doing? Are they dealing with a larger problem? That is why I take a pinch of salt to a lot of “Celestia kills everyone for knowledge/ambition/advancement” theories...why isn’t the Traveller/Abyss Sibling and co./Tsaritsa and the Harbingers dead by now? Surely they know some dirt on Celestia by now.

yesssss ushi event in the future maybe?

What if Ushi was trying to exorcise Itto all this time but changed his mind or maybe still trying his best until now lmao

@@lilypads3033 impossible. ushi has no hands to throw soybean 🤣

@@lilypads3033 I think Ushi was maybe specifically used by on Itto by someone from Inazuma city in order to exorcise him, but he disobeyed them and stood with Itto instead

@@reinasayama8077 because onis are demons originally and he instead stuck by itto because of his charming personality.

also.. there is some contradiction too.. Makoto said that all Archon can not ignore Khaenriah.. however I heard that Venti with the aid of Dvalin fought Durin in Dragonspine and Zhongli as Millelith's commander fought the monsters in the Chasm.. are they come to Khaenriah after the battle or just some of the Seven come there.?

@@FahrizalSurya pretty sure zhongli was out to khaenri'ah while venti stayed behind the whole time

@@FahrizalSurya Or Khaenri’ah is actually underneath all of the 7 nations, and the places where the nails are are where the surface is closest to the Abyss (and by extension, Khaenri’ah).

It also refers on how what Rhinedotter did was unwordly. So she basically caused the cataclysm.

I don't understand is the Abyss out of this world? Cuz wih Albedo testimony and the piece of aerosidite description, it says that was she created was abyss monsters with alien blood.

you do have a point 🤔

That actually kinda makes sense wow. Or maybe they were out inside tayvat on purpose

Imagine in the Khaenri'ah chapter after you explore all the nations you get to play the sibling so you can see their side of the story firsthand. Not sure if your wish party members would transfer over though unless there's a tough weekly boss. Hoyoverse is no stranger to including alternate maps and dimensions based on the story so you can switch in between current and past time periods.

@@BluFrost8888 You saying that we may play as the other twin and see their side of the story made me remember that in the teyvat travail video where they show all the acts of the game in order the khaenri’ah one was not numbered and it’s just blurry where the number is supposed to be so it’s not necessarily the last chronologically. We may be able to go back in time and actually play the khaenri’ah story and not only see cutscenes maybe as a playable memory or sth

@@grapetaems_4492 do you think you could find that video and link it? That sounds super interesting and I’d love to see where they say the story will go

Nice analysis except the KoF were not led by Venessa because she was already dead (or more like she became a bird) by then xD. It was led by that other dude from the brave heart artifact set story whose name I don't rmb. Idk if ruin machines are abyss powered, they feel more like superior technology, more than anything. But dain does use some strange-looking powers, except we don't know if he always had that or if he only gained that weird power after being cursed. So far, the other creatures of the abyss use elemental powers (other than their abilities to jump through the rifts and portals). Can't wait to learn more about the lore

@@Scrayla oh yeah, my bad I mixed things up with Venessa there LMAO. About dain's powers tho, I think they're Abyss powers but I cannot say for sure if he gained them after getting the curse or even before it. Also, it is interesting to note that the Abyss teleportation shiz is likely related to the same powers at work when we use the Teleport Waypoints--the abyss can teleport wherever whenever similar to how the player does that with waypoints (tho canonically, the player has to be near one to use it). We know that they were not created by Khanri'ah because we see a Teleport Waypoint in the ancient city under the Chasm which was supposedly even older than Khanri'ah itself. My hypothesis is that the teleportation ability is the Abyss' and that this power has been around even before Khanri'ah, presumably used by the unified civilization under the Primordial One's rule

The abyss twin and our twin are not so different if we think about it. You can see that they both get attached to things, they are very sympathetic/empathetic with other people (like when the Traveler went to Inazuma and refused to help Ayaka but then changed their mind once they saw how bad the Vision Hunt decree was affecting the people). Our twin just doesn't understand where this sympathy for the abyss order comes from, which is understandable. It's not like the abyss is entirely innocent and whatnot, considering that their goal is to get rid of not just Celestia, but of Teyvat itself. I mean, wanting revenge on the gods is understandable, fair even, but to want revenge on the people of Teyvat too, innocent people who hadn't done anything wrong? That's just too extreme, not to mention that the nations couldn't help Khaenri'ah even if they wanted considering they themselves were being attacked by abyssal monsters during the cataclysm.

@@electrobrotm217 I don't think their objective is revenge against the people of Teyvat. But considering they will get in the way there's no avoiding a fight

@@Oclur well i mean. first thing they tell you about the Abyss Order is that they hate humanity and surface civilization. which is what i consider kind of illogical. like bruh, the Kiana wannabe nuked your homeland, not Joe the broke college student.

loling

That would explain the memories that the man with Bosacious experienced.

I think the space was created by a reaction between the energies of Celestia (the Pillar) and The Abyss.

The pillar theory about time and space influence fits perfectly with the alternative timeline genshin theory. In which gods go back in time and destroy kaenriah before the beasts or the cataclysm invades the rest of tvyat. Meaning our twin traveled tvyat in the destruction timeline and we are to bear witness to the new timeline and help celestia fit the new timeline to the old.

@@MeguMaz I dont remember who exactly, but a character mentioned it might have been caused by the elemental reactions between the fight of Itto and Yelan, so I dont think the abyss has a lot to do

@@themikatoon Thats quite interesting, but we will have to see in the future in 10 years when Genshin lore is completed lmao, maybe we have a huge plot twist and its all a simulation

The only witnesses...unless Ei also remembers. After all, she was the only one in Inazuma who was surprised at the Sacred Sakura appearing.

@@silverhawkscape2677 it's because she's the one who changed the timeline by planting it. Similar to how if we change the timeline only we would remember it.

This is literally how I think the end of genshin is.. With the mention of space and time and time traveling gimbozos especially Makoto planting the sacred sakura from the past with the help of the God of time..

this idea would be nice. all this dark death will be reverse if at the end we work with the time god to change the past.

I used to think about this. Not with the PO and second throne but with the cataclysm. That we'd go back to time before cataclysm and stop it from happening and this will be the unnumbered Khaenri'ahan chapter. It sound great on paper, but if we reset all that, genshin as franchise will end then and there unless. I highly doubt they'd do that unless it's way too far down the line. Also, this doesn't address what happens with the Vishap storyline. Even if we stop PO and second throne thing, the Vishap dragon lord resurrection plotline remains unaddressed. So unless they conclude it before the finale, this fantastic idea won't come true. And in all honesty, if it does, it'll be a very very sad ending.

Personally, i think due to the fact that whatever it was, was reaching UP towards everyone while they were trying to escape indicates that it was a higher power from the Abyss. That part of the Chasm will be so deep that i wouldn't be surprised if it were on the same plane as Enkanomiya which is directly accessible for the Abyss.

Wouldn't the 'time-space' relation make Istaroth-the god of time-also the god of space?

@@sirmaximilliam153 no that wouldn't make her like that. Time and space are 2 entirely different entities but they rely on each other to function. In simple terms, let's take an example of God of Life and God of Death(another 2 shades of Primordial One), without life there is no death and without death there is no life. The same applies to time and space. Basically they are in a syzygy(pairs).

I think the higher power Yelan speaks of is caused by the celestial pillar because as we've seen on each area the celestial nail has been deployed e.g: Dragonspine & Tsurumi, leyline disturbance is always present causing space and time disturbance like in Tsurumi island and things like Durin's blood, thunderbird, the fantastic compass only adds to that phenomenon

@@rajadarshidash1016 Where in the story is it mentioned that there is a god of life and death and that they are also shades of Phanes?

yeah, leaving military equipment in the middle of nowhere is not a smart idea. I was speechless when I saw that the ballista is still there unsupervised.

exactly what i was thinking lol

lol really glad hoyo still pays attention to the smaller characters

i would be very sad if they disappeared back to their homeland. they're like the up to date gossip group

@@Anticaat yes LMAO great description

@@Anticaat like Viktor, he's gone from leaning in Cathedral Pillar after we finish a Special quest from him due to deporting to his homeland, Snezhnaya

Yeah based on genshin wiki, the difference between gods and mortals in genshin world is that when gods die, they never really die as they leave behind some of their power or "residue" and it will continuously affect the area where theyre buried/sealed/slain. Im even more surprised it was in the manga too, assuming what u said is true. Cant wait for sumeru and i hope we do get to see collei and maybe well get a story about her based on the manga??

@@lizzyleea, yeah like how everyone got turned to salt in Sal Terrae

that was hints omg I didn’t even realized that until now

Spoliers

But weird enough that the loading icon while the archon quest is Monstadt icon... This is a bug or a just coincidence?

@@azharfauzan4199mondstadt has a lot of ruins as u can see from the map. maybe that is it? no idea tbh

And Xiao, the only living Yaksha, is the very last to join the group

Checkout satellite nails

the ghosts are just reused assets, which mihoyo does very often, dont looks for simmilarities there

To add up, in the beta, K.K serves as the description dialogue spokesperson for the twins. In CN 5th anniversary, its revealed K.K is a flamechaser, though not Kevin since its a different Honkai beast that the flamechaser is fused with. Based on story, it assumed that both Honkai and Genshin stories took place simultaneously, in different branches of the imaginary tree within the Sea of Quanta. Star Rail is the sequel of APHO and Alien Space manga, with Welt and Carol starting their journey through the multiverses using the 2nd divine key in Reburn 2.

I wonder where the ark spaceship exactly went to, do we know anything else Abt it except for the fact it went "missing" or something?

@@raisin8328 Its unknown for now since the Elysian arc wasn't done yet in HI3, likely conclude in chapter 30-31. Though the 11 Fatui Harbringers and their actions are kind of the parallel to the 13 Flamechasers. Since both factions, despite being from different universes/branches of the imaginary tree, they fight against the set fate and cycle of destruction set in the respective world. Pierro is a parallel of Elysia, being responsible of recruting the Harbringers/Flamechasers, assigning title names/numbers/signets. Both even have certain true selves/knowledge/intentions hidden. Like how Elysia reveals herself to be the 13 herrscher of the previous era after hiding long, Scaramouche discovers Pierro's hidden knowledge/secret intentions regarding part of the true nature of Teyvat in Unreconciled Stars.

I doubt Arc theory is in any sense close, Arc wasnt sent into space, it was sent into Quantum Sea. Star Rail reveals some more lore about the higher being that they call Aeons. I belive Traveler is more of a device that is used to preserve memories of the worlds they visit ( interesting fact there is manga and anime 'To your eternity" it tells a story of a device created by god that has missions to preserve everything, the emiotions, the objects,the knowledge. It does that my shapeshifting to things it met. it can shapeshift to people too, which is simmilar to what traveler does when we swap our characters in a team.) There is Aeon of preservation that might have created traveler. Honkai is the name that Honkai universe Earthlighs gave to the force that we fighting. In other universes it may be called different. Like doom legion in Star Rail or Abyss in Teyvat. Rifthound really remind me of how Honkai works, they tear portals in space time and come from there, their only goal is destruction of all life on the planet . First they send smaller beast that make portals for bigger one, actually we dont know what is it goal but it might be just will of the Aeon of Destruction that deems all life in universe are failure to balance and seeks to destroy it. There is also the Stellaron, the thing that is used to create Trailblazer in Star Rail, coincidentally, it also allows them to master all elements . I think Star Rail is the connecting bridge between that multiverse

@@okularnik125 wait where did u read about the part that the ship was sent into the sea of quanta…

I agree with this. I also feel like the twin join the abyss by their own free will.

They might have lived with kan for a while and then the disaster happened which is why the twin sided with the abyss

Except when you distract Itto and Paimon still talks loudly and with the echo making Itto inevitebly hear her. Immersion breaking but Genshin was never good at it anyway

oh wow didn't know this

i think it’s more of “one day all of teyvat will erode, but you can outlive us and remember it all, you can be the one to record its history - the proof of its existence” since the law of erosion doesn’t apply to the traveler (since they aren’t from teyvat)

Sounds like shit be like that one Zelda game (I forgot what's it called) where you explore that one island but then it turns out to be all but a dream

That's true of anything. Already in our short human history, people, families, cities and even civilizations that we don't have records, fossils or stories for are as a good as never having existed.

Boring truth: As an online game, genshin will one day meets its server closing day, which makes everything in it disappears and left nothing but memories we have. So if we forget, then we forget it

Yeah it’s like the same with culture, knowledge, teachings and everything else Dig up all the knowledge of the past, no matter how far or near, and move it to the present for it to keep on going. If you ever stop that, everything or anything ceases to exist Just like how you won’t be yourself anymore if you forget yourself. How can you say it’s you when your personality, behavior, skills, and everything else beside your looks has been erased or replaced? Even if Teyvat still exists, it will be completely different in the inside, and all things that were in it are forgotten or replaced This is really emo lmao

exactly, you don’t need to be from somewhere to treat this place like your home, i think it was pretty obvious khaenri’ah wasn’t our place of birth since the twins are not even from this world

@@raywa5821 exactly, no one said they came from there, at least not in the sense that they were born there

Yep, it's such an obvious and simple answer. Our traveler literally rages for Teppei who we met just for a bit. I, for one, will fight the gods if they hurt itto. Getting attached doesn't need you to be born there. It's not that it's impossible that the sibling somehow believes she is from khaenriah, but I don't get why people are skipping the simple reason, leaping to that theory.

@@Verosa1410 couldn't say it better, the Teppei example is also a very good one, idk man, sometimes I can't understand the logic and thought process of some people

He has hit way harder lmao, he hits as hard as donglee ult usually

he exorcise them with raw power..

The sea of quanta, it seems

lol... speedrun? This game will be in continuous development for YEARS.

Very interesting, i left honkai about 10 months ago and i have lost APHO 2 and the flame chasers arks, so i had a lot of questions but you answered most of them here