This was probably the funniest ejection ever/made me the most pissed off, just because of reynolds reaction. As a lifelong O's fan this mad me mad but reynolds throwing the glove was priceless.
Reynolds got the out, the umps were wrong to overturn the call, Reynolds was understandably (and should have been) angry, the ump understandably (and should have) tossed him, and Showalter was understandably angry, and the umps understandably tossed him, too
Personally I think his toe was still on the base when the ball was in the glove. The home plate umpire should have had the best view on whether or not the foot was on the bag.
Also, the standard mechanic is to GET HELP from PU in this situation if you're not sure. I'm an umpire, and one of the responsibilities of the home plate umpire is to look UP the line for this exact situation. This crew followed the mechanics in PBUC to a tee.
ok. couple things here. i think it was a close play, and without a replay review the call really could have gone either way. now, for example, if a guy strikes out and spikes his helmet out of frustration, the umpire can issue an equipment violation to get the player fined, but if he spikes his helmet in addition to arguing the play, he can get ejected. now, carrapazza threw him out immediately after he threw the glove, which is debatably wrong on his part, but he was obviously mad they overruled the call, so i think the ejection wasn’t wrong, because reynolds was going to argue it anyway.
0:43, ball in the glove, feet at the bag...but it was so close, that noone can blame umps...if they insist out, Peralta and Leyland would get ejected :P
I would have called "safe". he got pulled off the bag. As for the ejection, I quote rule 9.02 (a)"Any umpires decision which involves judgment, such as, but not limited to, whether a batted ball is fair or foul, whether a pitch is a strike or a ball, or whether a runner is safe or out, is final. No player, manager, coach or substitute shall object to any such judgment decisions."
I hate that announcers always assume immediately the umps are wrong. They have no idea why Reynolds got tossed. He obviously said something while he was slamming his glove down. I'll bet you season tickets that is what go him run.
I know right? I've seen people get tossed a million fucking times for throwing there helmets and bats. David Ortiz just got tossed for flipping his bat like a week ago. Which is BS, but apparently he flipped it to close to the plate,..
He wasn't thrown out simply because of him throwing the glove. Watch the 2nd base umpire. Reynolds throws his glove THEN says something and THAT'S when the ump throws him out. He said something that got him tossed.
Considering the fact that there are penalties and violations missed on every play in the NFL and NHL, the mistakes and missed calls in Baseball are very minimal.
Note to Jim Palmer who is frequently wrong. The RULE BOOK does allow for ejection for throwing equipment. The fact that MLB allows a less (fine only) penalty does not change rule book. Also, "tie" does not go to the runner, and you always call a foul ball a foul tip. Go back to modeling underwear.
Reynolds is the first baseman. "Reynolds' toe is on the base and the ball is securely in his glove" = the runner is out. Either you're having trouble reading or just trolling.
They can overturn calls if they want...if the 1st base umpire is unsure of the play and wants to ask his fellow umpires for their opinions and it they say the opposite of what he called, than they can overturn it...If the 1st base umpire made that out call and stuck with it and the fellow umpires overturned it against him, than showalter would have a case
So eleven years later and Buck is managing the Mets in Baltimore for the first time.......I watched it at the slowest speed and honestly its impossible to know whether Reynolds maintained contact until the ball was firmly in his grasp but I seriously doubt that instant replay would have reversed the (original) call on the field.
As a former first basemen that played on the college level, this would happen to me VERY often. An arrant throw would pull me off the bag, but I would hold my toe on the base just until catching the ball before falling off. The umpires more often would call the runner safe, as if seeing a close play like that automatically means I pulled my foot. I feel for Reynolds, it's one of the bullshit calls in baseball.
He is 100% without a doubt out! If you pause it when the ball is safely in the glove, you will see that his foot is also on the bag. In real time though, it does look like he is safe even if he is not. What i find funny though is that the commentators are absolutely sure that he was safe and it was a bad call. Then, after they see he was out on the replay, they try to cover their mistake by saying it is actually not definitive when it clearly was!
Fans always complain that umpires rarely ask for help on a call. The home plate ump has a much better view of whether the 1b was on the bag. It was the wrong call but it was the right idea to ask for help. Without the aid of super slo mo replay it could have gone either way.
In case you didn't know, those are the Orioles' announcers (Tom Davis and Jim Palmer), and Palmer is the one who keeps saying Peralta is safe. My biggest problem with it was the home plate umpire overturning it. Whether the original call was right or wrong (in this case it was right), what makes another umpire think he saw it better from 100 feet away? And why do they do this sometimes but never consult when they ARE actually wrong? All the "Crew Chief has the last say" crap gets on my nerves.
Mark Reynolds throws down his glove Announcer: "Oh, no, Don't get thrown out Mark!" Umpire throws out Reynolds Announcer #2: "Reynolds just got thrown out!" Announcer #1 talking Announcer #2 "Now Buck just got thrown out."
An umpire can definitely throw a player out for throwing their glove. Doesn't happen much, but where in the rulebook does it say a player can't be ejected for throwing equipment?
and 9.01 d) Each umpire has authority to disqualify any player, coach, manager or substitute for objecting to decisions or for unsportsmanlike conduct or language, and to eject such disqualified person from the playing field. If an umpire disqualifies a player while a play is in progress, the disqualification shall not take effect until no further action is possible in that play." Reynolds threw his glove showing his displeasure with the reversal and was seen by the 2nd base umpire. Heave ho!
If there was no replay, looks like the first baseman got pulled off the bag trying to do the full splits, so in my opinion, he leaned himself off the bag, so hence the runner is declared safe.
The ball was in his glove before Mark's foot was off the bag. But it doesn't matter. The call was made and you shouldn't be able go back and change it.
The umpires changed the call - very properly! The first base umpire conferred with the plate umpire, who obviously gave his opinion that the foot was off the bag. It's the plate ump's responsibility to follow the runner and observe the play at first. These announcers are fucked in the head!!
OMG they finally made a correct call against the Tigers?! This has to be a record for us Tigers fans who have seen sh*t like this go against us 9 times out of 10. Wow! Unreal!
I can see why Mark Reynolds got tossed because at 1:11 he says "WTF?!" I know he was already thrown out before he said that, but he deserved to be tossed out after using that kind of language at the umpires.
Im a Tigers fan but he was out. This EXACT thing happened to me while playing a baseball game, yet they called him safe just because he was paying attention to the runner and not he fact that i tagged the base then got off the bag.
Umpires screw up call, player and manager get tossed. MLB needs to make these umpire accountable. Have a monthly review and pull the crappy ones out of rotation for a while.
***** If you try and freeze frame from 0:42 to 0:43 (when Reynolds has just his right hand on the ground), Reynolds' glove has closed on the ball and the toe of his cleat is still on the corner of the bag. It is not until 0:44 to 0:46, as Reynolds' body is making contact with the ground, that his foot comes off. Peralta was out.
NickFrmCA1 I think he is out. But, I needed both camera angles and stop action in both to make that determination. Based on just the normal motion, I would've called him safe. Tough call either way.
itsinthenet Which is what is crazy is the Ump had actually made the correct call just off instinct. then when he 2nd guessed it they changed it to the wrong call.
itsinthenet I don't know, looking at all the angles repeatedly in normal, slow, and frame, I think just as the ball reached the glove the toe lifted just slightly, about an inch or so. the only way to know for sure would be if there was a camera angle parallel to the field looking down the line towards the base
This is what u have to deal with as an ump..There will be calls you'll have to make where no matter what u call it, you will get rage from one bench or another...If he had called safe, the other team would have flipped out and argued his foot was on the base...If he called out like just now, the tigers manager would have probably gotten himself ejected...It was the right call, he was out
I personally think that if you throw your equipment that you should be ejected. We dont allow it in little league through college. Why should we allow it in the majors?
Thats does not deserve an ejection. Little League is completely different. Allowing it in the majors? players do it all the time and its not really a big deal. Umpires that see it happen are either soft or have huge egos. In Major league baseball they are not pussies. Mark Reynolds being ejected was ridiculous
I'm sorry but it looked like he held his toe on the base. 1st base ump was in a terrible position and they reversed it because they assumed reynolds was off. gotta love old buck for sticking up for his guys and ripping them a new one
He was safe, but it doesn't matter. Good sportsman don't throw tantrums. I am not a baseball fan, and haven't really watched a whole game for a decade or more. I haven't watched the game regularly for decades. But if what I'm seeing in this playlist of "Baseball fights" is representative of the flavor of this sport today, I'm not sure I will be following through on my interest in becoming a "fan" and watching the game regularly. The disrespect that the players and managers show to umpires is just sickening. These are guys who make millions, acting like fucking children and throwing tantrums, even physically threatening men who make mere five or six digit salaries!? Un-fucking-believable. We should expect more from professional athletes and the fact that me saying so is probably so unusual speaks volumes about what is wrong with our societies today.
It looked to me like they got the call right on the field it's not where the foot is when the ball hits the pocket of the glove it is where the foot is when the ball first enters the front of the glove according to the rules
@@alanhess9306 whatever if you've launched any game before they talk about it and how it's not when it hits the back of the glove it's when it enters the front of the glove literally heard it probably 30 times in my life watching baseball
@@brandontyler1754 I have never launched a game, whatever that means. I have umpired nearly 4000 games over the last 30 years though. Are you saying you watch baseball and that means you know the rules? Did you learn the rules from an idiot announcer? Nowhere does the rule book say "when it enters the front of the glove". Hearing something that is wrong 30 times does not mean it suddenly becomes correct. Here is the rule; "A TAG is the action of a fielder in touching a base with his body while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove; or touching a runner with the ball, or with his hand or glove holding the ball (not including hanging laces alone), while holding the ball securely and firmly in his hand or glove. It is not a tag, however, if simultaneously or immediately following his touching a base or touching a runner, the fielder drops the ball. In establishing the validity of the tag, the fielder shall hold the ball long enough to prove that he has complete control of the ball. If the fielder has made a tag and drops the ball while in the act of making a throw following the tag, the tag shall be adjudged to have been made. For purposes of this definition any jewelry being worn by a player (e.g., necklaces, bracelets, etc.) shall not constitute a part of the player’s body." If you are going to comment on baseball, wouldn't it be a good idea to learn the rules so you don't appear ignorant? You are another clueless fan who does not know the rules to the game yet you comment as though you are some kind of qualified expert. You are comical, and you are wrong.
You are embarrassing yourself. The replay crew in New York goes by the rules as written- not what an ignorant broadcaster thinks the replay crew uses as criteria. Only a fool argues with Alan Hess.
Umpires use eyes and ears. The sound of the baseball hitting leather doesn’t happen until the ball hits the pocket. Sit down, shut up, listen, and learn. Jim Palmer proclaims falsehoods repeatedly.
