I rode my R1 until I was 55 years old then sold it because my skill level wasn't as good as it was in my 20s. Nothing like the brute force power of an R1 banging thru the gears. I sure miss her and I've been getting the itch at 61 years of age to go out and buy another one even if I only park it in the living room and look at it while drinking beer on a recliner.
600 handles better and lighter around the tracks against a Liter bike.600 is more than enough for anything except drag, where the R1 will kill it. Bigger engine always wins in a straight line. I heard of people saying that there modified R6 is faster than the a stock R1, don't listen to that crap...big motor...big power.
600s handle easier but never faster lap times than a 1000... In fact, these vids on yt you see 600s passing litre bikes in the track is because the 1000cc rider is shitty, if a 1000 was ridden 100% and a 600 was ridden 100%, 1000s will always set faster lap times because they eat the straights. There is a big difference in the straight line between 1000s and 600s, but a small gap between 600s and 1000s around turns.
Sheridan Marais raced the 600cc Kawasaki and the 1000cc Kawasaki in the same year in the South African Championships a couple years back. He won both Championships that year. At Zwartkops race track outside Pretoria, which is a very tight track and well suited to the 600cc bikes, he was still faster on the 1000cc bike. Sheridan came 3rd in last years World SuperSport Championship on the Yamaha R6, so he's a very capable rider. So a racer with his skill, on both the 600cc and 1000cc bikes on the same "tight" track (not one with long straights to favor the bigger 1000cc bike) proved without a doubt that the 1000cc will be faster than a 600cc - period! However, take a good rider on the 600cc vs an average guy on a 1000cc and the results will be different with the 600cc winning. I've ridden both and find the 1000cc bike the better bike for me. Although currently I'm riding an 08' Kawasaki Z750 but I deeply regret selling my '05 Honda CBR1000RR which I bought new and sold after 40,000km ... having done track days on 5 different race tracks in South Africa, the Blade was epic!
For my size, I would take the R1. Definitely more power than I need and will ever use, but the size works for me. Plus, add on the Toce exhaust system and you have one very awesome looking AND sounding bike!!
@@glock1inthetop45no son del mismo tamaño la r1 del 2012 al 2014 es de 830mm de altura la r6 es de 850mm sin contar que la r6 es más gorda y se dificulta más la llegada al piso para bajas estaturas
I was going to go with the R6 but the reason I chose the R1 was the low end torque and not having to wind it up for the power like with the R6. Both are excellent bikes, though.
Dulf Nordensvärd 600s: 0-200 in 9s, and 0-280 km/h in over 30 seconds. 1000s: 0-200 under 7s, and 0-300 km/h in under 18 seconds. 1000 >>>>>>>>>>>> 600
7:07 the exact same thing I said when getting my R6, the R1 intimidates me for some reason, I have respect for the power any sportbike has. It's what keeps me alive I guess
PS: Just be aware that once you test ride a 1000 cc bike, you will look at your 600 in a different way mate. That 600 will loose some of it's awe. This sounds like a crazy thing to say but they almost feel like 125's to me now. They feel revvy. My mate let me have a go on his R6 the other day and it felt crap (which they are not ofc).
Dude, i just did the same! I had Cbr 600 and GSXR 600, power Was Great and all, sold them. Try’d a R1, Holy it Was sick, Maybe 2 sick to buy, cause i had 2 years break from Racing bikes. So i got me a R6 yesterday , and i feel like its not The same. Did i buy The wrong bike, should i Get The R1 and just Get used to The power? Or drive R6 to The limits. But 1 day later i had to retur it, Was something wrong with The papers. Is this a sign? «Everything happends for a reason?» Now Im thinking about R1 :-O
The R6 has such a beautiful engine sound when opening it up with a full headers & carbon fiber canister exhaust. I'd go as far has to say it is the best sounding sportbike period. 600s are like the two strokes of the sportbike arena, you just can't live without that sound.
If i wanted a motprcycle that soungds like a hot rod i d buy me a corvet that crossplane is the worse noisi shit yamaha ever made. Fucing thing sounds like a car not a motorcycle
I got 1 question to anyone who owns the yamaha r6 2014 version the seat high doesnt look that high tbh but I know it is 2ft 9 inches = 85 cm I am just 5 ft 7 inches = 1,70 cm tall am I too short for the r6? will this bike give me trouble to stand with both feet on the ground or can I handle it with 1 foot easily?
i have the r6. im 5'5. my feet just barely touch the floor flat when i sit on it. sister is 5'7, friend 5'11 they both stand and reach the floor perfectly on it. the weight of the bike is something else though. as my first sport i was really taken by surprise..
the r6 n r1 are both amazing machines. I own a 05 rossi r6 and the thing dominates on mountain roads but with predictable power. The r1 is faster in a straight line for sure but my r6 on curves is puts a smile on my dial without the scary risk of crashing out one a bigger bike.I'm an older rider that likes to ride fast but safely. You young guys can have the short lived glory of bigger bikes n best lap times.
I upgraded from a 2000 Honda CBR F4 (which I loved) to a 2003 Yamaha R1 recently and I freaking love it, I have no issue with the weight it feels just a little heavier than my CBR and the power is AMAZING....great great bike.
ducati is a good bike but its expensive and its not good in a hot country. its only good in europe not asia because its get hot very quickly compare to a japanese bike..
07 R6 is my first bike, just had good self control and respected the bike and its power and knew knew the basics and had good throttle control. You can start on whatever you want, idiots starting on Supersports give it a bad rep. 600cc are not as scary as everyone claim it out to be. Be smart, ride safe bros
I have an 04 R1 and it's still way too fast for the street sometimes, it wheelies out of every turn if you get on it, and just about every rolling hill will loft the front wheel wil
LOL good choice. Dirt bikes are a shit load of fun too. I honestly think I have more fun on my dirt bike than street bike because there are no rules. Plus getting air borne is always a plus.
The main reason why I prefer the 1000 (despite being only 5 foot 7 & weighing around 140 lbs) is coz not having the capability to really push them is a buzz for me. I am still learning a couple of years after jumping up. I respect this thing & that makes me a safer rider. The litre still handles more or less as well it's just the torque that's scary (but fun at the same time). It takes a bit of getting used to but you'll soon find yourself never looking back. 600's are perfect track bikes imo
I'm in my later forties now, last had a 2008 fireblade in 2010, having not ridden a crossplane crank before..thinking i'm just going to buy one hope i fit 😉
But not always... I mean, a 2300cc cruiser and 1000cc sport bike are like night and day. Or a 8000cc dodge viper and 7000cc laferrari are like night and day aswell.
The 600 class handles noticeably better but that's obvious. The difference with the litre is that the power kicks in way lower down. It's a completely different way of riding compared to the 600. Takes allot more getting used to. I prefer the litre. The extra torque makes it more bearable when riding through towns/cities and it's challenging to ride fast.
Damn one of those with a toce exhaust and it sounds bonkers... would love to get one from this model generation as my first liter bike in the far future... cause hell ill rather want to learn how to properly ride on a small bike then move to a 600 like a zx6 or r6 then get this...
I said the same thing until I rode and then brought a 1000 :) My advice is to never ride a litre because if you do...you'll want one. It's not about the top end speed as a 600 will quite easily do 160 mph. It's about the torque. Everything is smoother on the litre and the engine wears better as you're not having to thrash the throttle in order to get to the power. My engine fan hasn't come on once. This makes buying 2nd hand allot less risky as the chances of it being thrashed are next to none.
Great video. I think I’d much prefer a 600 or 750 on the track. Messing around with almost 200 horses is a little intimidating. But the sounds of the crossplane R1 (sigh)...
was hoping to pick up a used 2007 this weekend. Ive owned all the versions, except the new from 2009, and trust me they are all crazy fast. 2nd gear power wheelies are the norm! If you've never owned or ridden one - do it in this life time!
I started on the r6 a few years back when I was 16 and never had a problem. Never even got a speeding ticket yet! I agree that you should start on a bike you're more comfortable with, but I'm 6'4 and wanted to still get some power wheelies in :D
The only thing I don't like about the '09 -'14 R1 are the headlights. They remind me of the Brain Bug in Starship Troopers. Well that and that generation of the R1 was kind of a bus. The soup to nuts revamping of the R1 that took place in 2015 was really needed; get it back to its track roots.
85% of the guys riding DUCs in motoGP aren't the ones writing the checks...YOU have fun paying for valve adjustments. I'll just take my R6 in when I feel like it...in say 42000km? Whadda joke
With a R6 you must not be scared from a R1, beacause it's has more Race-gen's then a R1, it has no so much power then the R1 but when you come to an corner you will see what it is to understand that the weight rules a much on the track :D
Why a liter instead of a 6? Umm.. because it's a liter? More power sooner. More power "on tap". The 600s need to be revved out, maximized. The liters set your balls on fire and give you a silent scream in your throat at 8,000 RPM. And there's still 3,500 to go before redline. look at my video on R1 ( yamaha yzf r1 motorcycle freedom ) its nothing special but chilled out powerbands... =D
There have been some really stupid comments on here. First off. I ride an R1. I am 50 and have been riding bike my entire life (since 4) and I have never wrecked on the street. 1. If you are under 21, do not get a street bike. You WILL wreck and probably die. Get a dirt bike and ride the crap out of it until you are 21 and then get your street bike. 2. If you take any bike to the limits on the street. You WILL wreck and probably die. 3. Unless you plan to race on a track, it doesn't matter.
i ride an 07 gixxer 600 right now with 3 years of riding experience, however, mostly road. im selling it right now and getting a new bike next year. however im torn between getting the R1 and the R6.... 600s dont hold value and i know im gonna want to move up to a 1000 eventually, but i havent mastered the 600 yet. i know that i want to make my next bike my "forever" bike, but dont want to get something too powerful if i havent mastered a 600...... any professional advice?
Excuse me? I'm neither trolling nor mixing apples and pears. Different circuits suit different bikes. A little known piece of common sense, is that although the R6 has 30% less BHP at the Crank it's 10% Lighter than the R6 The performance of the bikes are much closer than the 400cc engine difference would have you believe. In fact, on most tracks, a good rider on an R6 WILL beat an average rider on an R1 I never brought the Vmax into this debate, you did. Learn facts, kid
Mate you are just being stubborn and you are mixing pears and apples….or you’re just trolling. Question was not if Vmax is faster than R1, it was about two of the same kind of bikes with different displacement in same conditions. Lesser rider will probably be faster on R6 because it’s less intimidating but that says nothing about which bike is faster. They don’t make racetracks curvy enough for R6 to capitalize on it’s agility. Maybe a go-cart track, but then a 125 supermoto would beat both :P
You don't get anything about racing or speed. There is no 'faster bike' It depends on who's riding each bike, it depends on their confidence on that bike, it depends on tire pressures and fuel levels, spark plug wear, track conditions, track set up, bike set up. A good rider on an R6 will go faster than an average rider on an R1. The R1 has more power, the R6 is lighter and more maneuverable. A track with lots of straights favours the R1, a track that's constantly turning favours the R6.
i would buy something a little more manageable for a first bike. Its not terrible as a first bike but having been 16 myself i would not suggest it. Im not going to say start on a 250, but get a kawasaki or a suzuki 500 first, learn to ride, then upgrade. An r6 is an awesome bike but if you get wrist heavy with out the skills to back it up it will hurt you. getting an r6 for a first bike is like buying a gtr to learn to drive on
Btw, superdooper with all ure crap here. The 636 is indeed a nice package. But tbh the Triumph daytona all brand new 675R would be the better choise. For racing that package is fucking awesome! When I saw the 636 IRL I was rather dissapointed, for first it was less pretty then on media. Second it was FUCKING expensive compared to lets say a MV agusta F3 goes for. Am I really paying 600€ more... for a kawasaki? SERIOUS. think not! 13500€ for the full package of electronics. 2 much for a kawa
and then came the bmw S1000RR and wanked that ZX-14. Keep the kid talk at home, those bikes don't even come close to what a superbike can perform(hayabusa and ZX14 are either for cruisers or posers). Ive destroyed a hayabusa at the straight of a small technical circuit last summer. Ow and the funny part, he didn't wanted to give in so he went into the brakes to late, getting his ass into the gravel lol
In the AMA the R1 is about 4 seconds faster than an R6 per lap, same thing goes for all the other manufactures. Same rules apply for the WSBK and WSS, and the Moto-GP and Moto-GP2. All 1000s are about 3-4 seconds faster per lap than their little 600 brothers when these bikes are tuned for racing and pushed to the limits by a skilled professional rider. I myself ride an R1 and have been beaten by riders in 600s but I've also beaten riders on Busas as well, it's all about the rider in the end.
I love the r6. I love it so much that I bought one in 2009 for 9990.00. Simply love it! still got it. I just can't understand how yamaha could raise the price by a grand a year... and not change the bike one bit!? you cant claim increased caust givin that most of the parts for these bikes have been sitting on shelves for years! Now realy.... I love this bike ! but would deff. look intot the used market before droping 12 or 13 grand on an unchanged more restricted r6.
I picked up my 50aniv. R6Edition and it is a very fast bike at the top end. My uncle has a 2001 r1 and I cut corners faster than he does due to the heavier bike apposed to the r6 which Is a very light bike. As for the 50 horse power difference to the r1 bolt on mods can get u up there and the bike will b lighter. The r6 is not a starter bike due to the throttle lag response. Strictly track or open roads were u can open up the throttle
Dropping your first bike is inevitable. Wouldn't want to drop an R1 or R6. Better get a used bike that's below 100 hp like a ninja 650, or Suzuki sv4 or something within those class of bikes. Also remember every biker I know including my self changed their first bike, it's also inevitable. People who say I want a bike to keep forever are just wrong.
Get your license first. See if you're actually comfortable on a bike. A lot of people never get used to it and hate it. Then if you're not going to go for a low cc bike, which anyone with experience would tell you to do, go for a 400cc or something. You need to get used to handling power delivery on a bike.
I use to own and ride Hondas, (CBs,CBRs 600) then i bought a 07' Fz6N...then an 05' R1 and now an 08' R6 and love the way the Yamahas makes me feel, they are exciting and nervious of their front end feel and growling sound of the air box, Hondas really nice finish,ergonomics but they are a bit boring. And as a mechanic i ride all of the new japanese sport and superbikes.
