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2017 GSX-R1000 S2B: Episode 3 - Throttle Blade Derestriction 

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2017 GSX-R1000 Stock to Brock Episode 3: Brock’s topic of discussion is throttle blade restriction. Here is a detailed video discussion to not only verify the processes to prove ETV restriction exists on the 2017 GSX-R1000, but also demonstrate that a properly flashed ECU can open the blades much sooner and also prevent this power-robbing menace from closing the blades prematurely. Watch horsepower suddenly appear like magic, with no other modifications to clutter the data. The best news? Brock and the crew are just getting started! And this video will give you a glimpse into the type of scientifically-controlled chaos Brock and StupidFast racer, Richard Gadson, are willing to endure to extract every last pony from Suzuki’s latest offering.
2017 GSX-R1K S2B: Episode 1 - Parts Introduction & Overview: • 2017 GSX-R1000 S2B: Ep...
2017 GSX-R1K S2B: Episode 2 - Initial Dyno Break-In with Chart: • 2017 GSX-R1000 S2B: Ep...
The details:
2017 GSX-R 1000L7 Standard model (not the ‘R’ version) purchased from Fun For All Motorsports Elizabethtown, KY
Traction control - Motion Track Traction Control Standard (TC=OFF during testing)
Suzuki Drive Mode Selector (S-DMS) Power Mode=A (max power selected during testing)
Fuel used during test = Shell 89 Octane (choices available at our local Shell = 87, 89, 93 - we selected mid-grade for our tests)
Rear tire: Stock Bridgestone Battlax RS10 190/55/ZR17 - 35 PSI Nitrogen
Motor Oil: As delivered (unknown)
Air Filter: OEM
PAIR: Blocked
5th Gear Pulls
Power Commander: On bike with ZERO map installed (equivalent to no Power Commander at all)
ECU: Stock or Brock Flashed with Flash Tune (FTecu) software (ETV Base Maps/Mode A 100%) -
Special Note: ECU Derestriction is a RACE USE ONLY modification that *WILL VOID* your factory warranty!
Video Introduction- You can’t manage what you can’t measure!
1:25 Description of no-airbox configuration/wiring, etc.
3:19 Custom Power Commander - thanks, Dynojet!
4:25 Stock ECU vs. Brock’s Spare Flash tune ECU - It’s ON!!
5:00 Some of the coolest split-screen, narrated, sportbike tech video we have ever done - hope you like it!
6:30 Stock ECU run - watch grip voltage stay at 100%, but ECU restricts blades to 65% (note, lag on gauge prevents complete display)
8:20 Flashed ECU run - watch blades SNAP open almost instantly and STAY open until redline.
9:00 Discussion of upcoming runs.
11:00 Bike reassembled - base run with stock ECU.
12:00 Spare Flashed ECU with derestricted ETV column installed
13:30 Dyno chart discussion (comparison to Episode 2)
14:25 Torque discussion
15:22 Throttle Blade angle discussion using Power Commander graph info. vs. FT ecu Stock ETV graph.
17:20 180 HP peak… and we are just getting started!
2017 GSX-R 1000 Information Page: www.brocksperf...
Visit www.BrocksPerfo... for additional information, installation instructions, information forums, and FAQ sections.
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Please watch: "2017 GSX-R1K S2B: Episode 4 - Exhaust Installation and Theory (Part 3): Full Exhaust Systems"
• 2017 GSX-R1000 S2B: Ep...
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@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
See description for detailed information and video time tags
@Da-wooley18
@Da-wooley18 7 лет назад
Brock Davidson hey I convinced my dad to buy the gsxs 1000f last year and I was wondering if that bike would have the same throttle plate issue because to me it seems to have a very odd power surge Also I was wondering if you had anything for that model because it has the 08 gsxr 1k motor in it
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@Busa1811 wolaver, We don't have any parts for that bike, or any experience with it - sorry.
@DJSpinj
@DJSpinj 7 лет назад
Thank you for posting the video, Brock. It is very informative, and with things caught on camera we now have solid evidence along with empirical data to support the reality of the restrictions imposed on these newer bikes. I own a 2009 GSX-R1000. Do you happen to know how much restriction there is on this bike? (e.g., at what point throttle blades close during wide open throttle, ignition timing retardation, etc.) I think the 2009 - 2016 Gixxer liter bikes are the same, so if you have any information you can share on the restrictions on them that would be great.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
Thanks Spinj. No restrictions beyond the standard exhaust, TRE required, speed limited stuff that has been around for years.
@DJSpinj
@DJSpinj 7 лет назад
Wow, that was a very fast response! Thank you Brock! However, I am confused by what you mean when you said no restrictions beyond the standard exhaust. I have spoken to two dyno tuners who own their respective service shops. One told me that the bike's throttle blades are 95% open at the upper rev range, and the other told me 94%. Consistent information this is, but what can you say? I am thinking of flashing my ECU, but I thought I should seek your wisdom as you are very experienced in Suzukis.
@AJTalks
@AJTalks 7 лет назад
16:05 I can totally feel that restriction down low in my 17 GSXR 1000R, it doesnt come alive until 7k and dies at about 11k. Very excited about tuning it now. Excellent video man
@iannsr125
@iannsr125 7 лет назад
Alex Johnson how many miles is on your bike and what country you from
@JK-qj9qp
@JK-qj9qp 7 лет назад
I really admire what you're doing Brock. Your work is awesome!
@mightymouse6363
@mightymouse6363 7 лет назад
This video is exactly why I buy Brock's exhaust on all my bikes. He willing to share information where other companies are so hush, hush. Although I ride a 16 BMW S1Krr now I owned 4 Gixxer 1k's and I'm glad to see Suzuki is back in the game. I will follow this build til the end
@michaelsmartin5388
@michaelsmartin5388 3 года назад
I have to say since watching your videos I am learning something new each video. I have minimized my TV watching and now educate myself on Brock's videos. Not a sport bike rider but I love the mechanics having spent 41 years plus working around steam turbines, gas turbines and generators.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 года назад
That is awesome!
@sural89
@sural89 7 лет назад
amazing job ...it's even more restricted than expected
@Gypsyman40
@Gypsyman40 7 лет назад
This was one of the dopest tech videos I have seen in awhile. First time seeing the throttle blades work in real-time. Very nice...
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@ Gypsyman Racing Thanks it was a ball for us also! Did you notice the secondary injectors joining in horsepower-making fun also (:
@bigboyztoyz1960
@bigboyztoyz1960 4 года назад
So cool ! That fuel spray is "whew" No wonder why litre bikes drinks fuel like there is no tomorrow.
@jeannoelsandrazie1874
@jeannoelsandrazie1874 4 года назад
Well, you've got to feed those 160 horses. 😊
@GixxerL
@GixxerL 5 лет назад
Hi Brock I'm watching from the uk and want to say thank you for educating me, I feel as if I should be paying you for all this information and am very grateful , I look up to people like you passing your information down to the next generation of humans not knowing a thing about this area like me, lol so thank you again from all the way from the uk 👍🏽
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 лет назад
@Gixxer 600 L2 - thank you for the kind words...and it's nice to hear that we have at least one fan from the UK.
@TheAstraios
@TheAstraios 7 лет назад
Probably the best instructional video on dyno work I've seen. No wonder 650ib's loves you guys :D.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
Thanks! We like 650Ib also, he's a fun guy.
@triedproven9908
@triedproven9908 7 лет назад
This also makes me appreciate the physical connection between throttle and butterfly so much more.
@NebulaLuna
@NebulaLuna 2 месяца назад
I have a 2023 gsxr1000 and this is VERY informative, thank you!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 2 месяца назад
Glad it helped
@Da-wooley18
@Da-wooley18 7 лет назад
Great video Brocks team we all love the step by step build project on this this gsxr 1k and the information that your putting out there for all to see a glimpse into the dyno world I'm sure myself and a lot of us out here take all that tuning for granted and just throw all leg over these bikes and go ride
@oldschool6268
@oldschool6268 7 лет назад
Brock way to show your customers what's going on, you are the man ! I just hope it gives BMW a run for the $. I'm waiting on the next busa to share a room with my ZX14R, I love Suzuki products.
@iggi70
@iggi70 7 лет назад
Wow, appreciate your work Brock. As the old saying, " You can't fix Stupid." But give it to Brock to make it, " Stupid Fast!"
@lghazmat
@lghazmat 7 лет назад
great job brock's and excellent teaching too two thumbs up for brock's gsxr-100
@TheDriversPerspective
@TheDriversPerspective 7 лет назад
This is the kind of content that I love seeing, great job breaking it down and showing what the stock ECU is doing.
@rx7cblink
@rx7cblink 7 лет назад
Woowwwww All I can say you are the man, I have recently suspected exactly what you have just confirmed. I have a 2014 BMW HP4, 11 GSXR 750, got rid of my great 05 GSXR1000 (much regret) among my heard (02 GSXR 1000, (2) 06 Ducati sport Classic 1000's and a project 2000 TL1000R), but I too have always been a Suzuki man. You just solidified me getting a new 2017 GSXR 1000 RR The King is back ...
@therealslimshady4555
@therealslimshady4555 6 лет назад
rx7cblink hi why do u regret selling your Suzuki gsxr k6 k6 1000 i would never sell mine.what rwhp had she?
@infinitycl
@infinitycl 7 лет назад
Nice, can't wait to see what this bike will actually make.
@user-wx6fs7ls5b
@user-wx6fs7ls5b Год назад
I will probably never get a newer GSXR but this video was so damn interesting to learn from.
@corinful
@corinful 7 лет назад
Awesome video.... thanks Brock! Can't wait to see it with some aftermarket parts on board....This bike is literally gonna fly
@disturbedgsxr
@disturbedgsxr 7 лет назад
SICK!!!! Cannot wait to see more impressive already i need a bigger garage!! Thanks again your videos are meticulously done and very informative and to see the power gains step by step is awesome keep up the good work sir!
@awaywayye
@awaywayye 6 лет назад
WOW.....I have just found this channel....amazing....subbed!!!!
@poohead4360
@poohead4360 7 лет назад
honestly, have to say this is my FAVORITE bike video. wow.... nice work sir.
@donjuan1933
@donjuan1933 7 лет назад
Brock totally awesome keep doing what you're doing! I'm learning so much
@Glen45
@Glen45 7 лет назад
Very clear and informative. I look forward watching this develop.
@thanhhainguyen5522
@thanhhainguyen5522 6 лет назад
Thanks for your video
@pags1981
@pags1981 6 лет назад
Great vid, love messing with this stuff too. Got a power commander and Woolich racing flash on the 15 Zx10r and Yoshi system. Can feel the torque / hard pull now. Not 100% keen on fly by wire.
@ravikiran1738
@ravikiran1738 6 лет назад
Man you sure know what you're doing and you speak soo enthusiastically...!! Love it 😍
@brantleysmith6386
@brantleysmith6386 7 лет назад
This is the bike I've been waiting for. Can't wait to see what you guys do with it. I would love to have a brocks tuned gsxrR. When I get mine in sending it off to you guys. love the video's. Keep up the good work.
@triedproven9908
@triedproven9908 7 лет назад
I absoloutely love what you're doing here Brock! You need more likes!!!! Give this man and his organization more likes!!!!
@MatiMorini
@MatiMorini 6 лет назад
the best real knowledge what you can get!!! thanks!!!!!
@Onedown5ups
@Onedown5ups 6 лет назад
love these videos Brock
@everydayirace
@everydayirace 7 лет назад
Thank you Brock
@Proto2o
@Proto2o 7 лет назад
New generation of bikes coming in hot! Hehehe, Thank you for the videos Brock!
@tommccullough1301
@tommccullough1301 7 лет назад
Hey Brock, that's awesome 180 HP and you haven't even scratched the surface.That Zuki it's going to be a force to be reckon with.
@renaldolamar
@renaldolamar 7 лет назад
that's crazy how restricted that motor is but Suzuki says it's the king of the sport bikes hell I still want one though
@ELEDUCADITO1
@ELEDUCADITO1 7 лет назад
I wanted to thank you thats all for a great company
@ultimatefinish6491
@ultimatefinish6491 7 лет назад
great job... love these gsxr vids
@rwd323
@rwd323 7 лет назад
Interesting stuff, looking forward to the next video
@elijahinky
@elijahinky 7 лет назад
awesome stuff Brock! Can't wait to see what she puts down! Exciting stuff!
@Mark-zk7mv
@Mark-zk7mv 7 лет назад
looking forward to episode 4!!!!
@cowboy_broke
@cowboy_broke 4 года назад
Very well made video.
@kennethengstrom583
@kennethengstrom583 7 лет назад
Awesome video👍I looking forward to the next one😳
@Mark-zk7mv
@Mark-zk7mv 7 лет назад
Excellent videos! and great explanation of things. very fun to watch. Thanks man, please keep me coming.
@avefan1061
@avefan1061 6 лет назад
Love your exhausts. Very impressed with what i have seen on 650ib's channel.
@Towert7
@Towert7 7 лет назад
I'm very interested to watch the progress of this bike modifying so I'm subscribing. Thanks for making these informative videos!
@therccelebrityspeedfresh5393
@therccelebrityspeedfresh5393 3 года назад
Nice job man looking good bro I miss riding my motorcycle
@LightningMAS
@LightningMAS 7 лет назад
very nice demonstration!!!!
@daveyt4802
@daveyt4802 3 года назад
Only the best from BD.
@javiercarrion6843
@javiercarrion6843 7 лет назад
Great Videos Brock for sure I have learned alot. I do have an R1 and I do watch 650is's videos and want the best performance for my r1. I do know about the throttle bodies and have not fixed the flash just yet But that will get done ASAP.
@Themanu2222ful
@Themanu2222ful 7 лет назад
looking forward to the complete motor pomp up! cheers from holland!
@knoogoodzkngd5014
@knoogoodzkngd5014 7 лет назад
this is just awesomeness keep it up at the end of the video could you include what to expect on the next video .... Great work
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@Tyler May - thanks and great tip!
@jaredmoss7403
@jaredmoss7403 7 лет назад
These videos are awesome, makes me want to buy your Products, you actually know what your talking about.
@TreadTalk247
@TreadTalk247 10 месяцев назад
Awesome stuff Brock! Love that you love the details as much as I do, data means everything! Love the “Ass Dyno” for sure, but numbers never lie! My ass though, has lied to me before, and the data shocked me! Again, well done Sir…..
@tolgaetci9539
@tolgaetci9539 6 лет назад
This video is like an educational video, thanx...but if you are not a drag racer, this machine is already flying and this small advances on performance is for daily rider totally neglectable and unnecessary and against durability of the engine, means against safety on a hyper performance bike, but still great job.
@Parabloop3r
@Parabloop3r 7 лет назад
Very cool demonstration!
@SuperbikeDiscovery
@SuperbikeDiscovery 4 года назад
Wow what a great video and what a channel! Thanks!!! Subscribed!
@favian3380
@favian3380 7 лет назад
damn still need full exhaust and tune👍
@2m173
@2m173 7 лет назад
Looking forward to seeing this series as it progresses. My question is doesn't flash tune make it possible to tune everything within the ECU the same as you would with a power commander? Wondering why you would have to add on the piggyback ECU controller with the flash tune, or am I thinking about this wrong?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@ 2M That's their claim and we plan to demonstrate both. Currently, Flashtune does not offer active tuning for the 2017 GSX-R1000, so we any ECU tuning would be a course guess compared to what we and do with the power commander. Once active tune becomes available, we will use it also, as well as their PCV map import function into the ECU. We have PILES of info. to come!
@DewaldVDB
@DewaldVDB 7 лет назад
Hi Brock. Wow man, well done on this episode series so far. I share your excitement every step of the way. Do you perhaps know if other 2017 models have similar throttle blade restrictions? Thanks for your honest videos, really appreciated.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
It's most throttle by wire bikes these days. BMW s1000rr, almost all R1's, almost all ZX-10's, H2's are the ones we are working with.
@edsonalmeidaracing4848
@edsonalmeidaracing4848 7 лет назад
That's pretty much impressive....
@cowsauce9099
@cowsauce9099 7 лет назад
So when is the next vid going up?? I want to see the power before I buy one.
@turbotyoma
@turbotyoma 3 года назад
Brock tell me, please: is it just ETV derestriction or fuel was corrected also? What was AFR in comparison to stock after ETV derestriction? Thank you for GREAT videos and knowledge!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 года назад
Please click show more and use our time stamps to quickly find the areas in our videos that can properly answer your questions.
@JerryWhoopX
@JerryWhoopX 7 лет назад
I thought that the 2017 gixxer had 200whp, but it apparently was 200bhp. Nonetheless a nice series Brock!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
Perhaps in other parts of the world. Here in the US, it's 185 SAE measured at the crank. Here is the MSO from our bike: www.brocksperformance.com/images/GSX-R1kL7_Crp.jpg we assume a 11-12% drivetrain loss. It's within 1% of our readings.
@braedancleave2185
@braedancleave2185 7 лет назад
Brock, loving these videos, so interesting seeing how you tune these bikes. I just have one question in regards to restricting (and tuning for more power) - What (if any) effect does this have on all the stock parts such as the pistons, crank shaft, all other internal parts - Would these parts be more likely to break or wear faster after tuning as such ?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
My take on it is this: we are only removing the restrictions the OEM's are FORCED to put in place. They KNOW what is going to happen to these engines after they leave the factory... we are simply allowing the engines to work as if they were not restricted in the first place. And THAT is the key. Don't get greedy - just remove the restrictions and the bike will live a long and happy life.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
One other point - the European version does not have the same restrictions at 100% throttle.
@-DC-
@-DC- 7 лет назад
Suzuki don't appear to be restricting the 1000 like this in all markets. The UK models are doing around 180 bhp at the wheel out of the box.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
Correct, The 2017 GSX-R1000 does not share the same ECU restriction as the US model.
7 лет назад
The most informative video I ever seen regarding the process of tuning a bike. Just one question, does the bike runs lean with the secondaries wide open?, if not, is the ecm and oxigen sensor correcting it? When I pull out the secondaries on a Vstrom 1000 I had to enrich a lot the mixture on top. Thanks !!
7 лет назад
You already ansewered my question down below. Keep going Brock !
@realsstates1180
@realsstates1180 7 лет назад
I hit the like button 3 times for this video :)
@James-jy2lg
@James-jy2lg 7 лет назад
excellent work! very informative!
@lghazmat
@lghazmat 7 лет назад
fun fun to watch to bad video was to short
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@yupi351, lol - we sped up scenes to keep it under 20 mins! Glad you thought it was 'short'!
@ApriliaRacer14
@ApriliaRacer14 7 лет назад
Subscribed.
@jryer1
@jryer1 7 лет назад
@Brock Davidson - Hey Brock these torque & hp numbers are down right scary considering the only thing done so far has been throttle blade adjustment. I sense some bonafide excitement surrounding what may occur real soon in your dyno room after the Brock tuning treatment is applied or is that just me over-reacting? I mean do we have the possibility of this thing catching the BMW? Because if it even gets close, I can tell you there are going to be a whole lot of people very excited!!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@Getis Realis it's still early... but the new gixxer is looking strong!
@michaelharper895
@michaelharper895 7 лет назад
Man I need a gixer
@porkchopspapi5757
@porkchopspapi5757 4 года назад
My bogusomiter kicked in. Of course I could be wrong but, switching back & forth between the two several times it's odvious from the sound that you are not revving as high after your flashed ecu as when the blades start shutting down pre flash. And having the dyno tachometer off lends credence to my suspicion. I hope I'm wrong. I've witnessed too many snake oil pushers, especially in the bike hop up market.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 года назад
You got me. Try as I may, I simply can't rev a bike as high that has 3 different soft cut limiters in the ecu controlling peak revs. I'm so ashamed...
@porkchopspapi5757
@porkchopspapi5757 4 года назад
@@BrockDavidson You can't rev the bike as high with your ecu installed as the stock ecu? & again, why is the tach display off?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 года назад
??? The tach is off because moments into warming the bike up on the dyno, it trips fault codes from the discrepancy between front (zero mph) and rear (175 + MPH) wheel speeds.
@porkchopspapi5757
@porkchopspapi5757 4 года назад
@@BrockDavidson Thank you for explaining that part.
7 лет назад
I have another, QA at mid low rpm its better to have the secondaries a little close for better torque, did you lose torque at mid low rpm? Seems that this is going to be on par with the mighty s1000 or more!
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@Sebastian, it is better nowhere (power-wise) by having the blades closed. I have resized a dyno chart to show that it gained @3hp and 3 ft-lbs from 4200RPM - 6500RPM by having them open sooner: www.brocksperformance.com/images/2017_GSX_R1K_LowEndGains2_crp.jpg
@daveyt4802
@daveyt4802 5 лет назад
Did you guys figure out why Suzuki would do this? The 186 mph top speed thing? Does the gear position sensor alter the stock HP too?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 лет назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_motorcycles#Gentlemen's_agreement_to_end_competition
@ianblakemore4681
@ianblakemore4681 4 года назад
Mr Davidson Sir! have you done a vid on performance spark plugs and how they effect the performance of an engine.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 4 года назад
No. Because no one who has ever spent a fortune on spark plugs to "improve performance" would want to here what I have to say...
@mr_mel
@mr_mel 7 лет назад
After you've perfected everything would a consumer be able to send in his ecu to have it derestricted & tuned by you?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
Yes
@AJTalks
@AJTalks 7 лет назад
Can you compensate for altitude in your bench tune?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@Alex Johnson, please check out his FAQ for a detailed explanation: www.brocksperformance.com/absolutefm/?f=234
@jerryx2000
@jerryx2000 7 лет назад
@Brock Davidson so it is just a plug and play for the consumer? Will an PC5 custom tune improve low end torque & mileage? Is this also for the European models. What if I have a slip on with cat installed? Thanks
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@Jayden Valentine - we offer Flash packages with a PCV fuel tune to allow the customer the flexibility to adjust their own fuel mapping, or use our maps, available through our Map Support Program, with a purchase of a Brock's Performance exhaust. Click here for more info: www.brocksperformance.com/brocknm/templates/bpp1.aspx?articleid=406&zoneid=22
@jeremybly
@jeremybly 5 лет назад
But im curious about thr hp made without an airbox. Also curious because i read on a bunch of forum's that ppl do the airbox mod. Either take the lid off or drill holes in the airbox. You don't seem to do that. So is that not a worthwhile mod?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 лет назад
The air box is in place to prevent the engine from drawing air from the low pressure area behind the fairings, it also keeps engine heat away from the inlets...the engineers who designed the bike have a full understanding of it's operation. It does not need poked/drilled/removed etc...
@jeremybly
@jeremybly 5 лет назад
@@BrockDavidson thank you for answering my foolish question. But it was something i wanted to know.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 лет назад
@jerembly - not foolish, but very misunderstood. Thanks for asking!!
@tomgang-Dk
@tomgang-Dk 7 лет назад
great video
@titoinette31
@titoinette31 4 года назад
These are rich lessons. Thx ! :)
@kevosbourne
@kevosbourne 7 лет назад
So why do they restrict the blades is it to protect the engine?
@RishabhSharma-lq1id
@RishabhSharma-lq1id 6 лет назад
Kevin Osborne Emission laws
@TheAstraios
@TheAstraios 7 лет назад
When you do the part upgrades is it possible to do a dyno run on it without MR12 so we can see direct comparisons. Really hard to tell what impact the racefuel is having with dyno videos when people put on a bunch of parts then put in MR12 in at the same time. Sort of hides the gains from parts/tuning on normal fuel.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@Cambell Reynolds Mr12 runs will be at the end of the series, used as our 'gauge or standard' fuel so the 2017 GSX-R1000 can be compared to all previous performance makes/models. Until that time, the standard for this series is 89 Octane Shell, as noted in the description above.
@ryderDoO
@ryderDoO 7 лет назад
awesome, I guess we have an S1000rr killer here
@cobratoxic
@cobratoxic 7 лет назад
Brock I have one question for you that I think is very important, why you use power comander when I have Rapid Bike Racing, our bazzaz, I say this because I earth professionls saying that Rapid Bike is a more " complete " better hardware when compare to power comander, is like you can do more on the tune with rapid bike. If you can aswer this question I am going to be very happpy.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@cobratoxic I will demonstrate this in detail in an upcoming Episode.
@cobratoxic
@cobratoxic 7 лет назад
Brock Davidson thank you very much, Just another question in my country we only have 95 and 98 octane fuel. do you think we can make more Power Just Puting 98 octane fuel ?
@845racingworks
@845racingworks 7 лет назад
I think that 95 and 98 are just more cleaner that's all, but noted, 89 octane in the US is about the same as 93 or 95 octane in South Africa where I'm from. Not a expert at this, just guessing
@MikeOnBike360
@MikeOnBike360 7 лет назад
Great content! Thank you.
@Birky_41
@Birky_41 5 лет назад
I'm sure this is a usa emission thing. UK bikes I don't think have this issue atleast going by dyno results here which all make circa 180 standard
@fwh79FOXR6
@fwh79FOXR6 6 лет назад
Do these bikes still need a throttle blade sync? Or is that something the computer does automatically now?
@PapaWheelie1
@PapaWheelie1 7 лет назад
That is awesome- wish you could improve its looks so easy 👍
@raydolinger1980
@raydolinger1980 6 лет назад
Brock you make excellent product's please keep up the good work.... USA.. ) Also how about offering camshafts, cam timing videos etc
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 6 лет назад
Ray Dolinger thanks Ray. We changed our business model to focis on 100% bolt on products several years ago.
@louisianapepper1018
@louisianapepper1018 7 лет назад
always down to learn stuff
@MrJeffreycauchi
@MrJeffreycauchi 3 года назад
Im loving these episodes BUT!.............There is 1 problem...... I have the same bike and now im getting jealous!!! 😄
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 3 года назад
@Jeffrey Cauchi www.brocksperformance.com 😉
@MrJeffreycauchi
@MrJeffreycauchi 3 года назад
@@BrockDavidson thank you!
@MrJeffreycauchi
@MrJeffreycauchi 3 года назад
@@BrockDavidson can I ask a question pls? Mine is a brand new 2020 Gsx-R1000, is it true that the engine will be already broken in from the factory? Is it that crucial the first 1000km or everything is already done? Thank you.
@raceaddict3212
@raceaddict3212 7 лет назад
How the hell can anyone dislike this video.. 2 thumbs up from me..👍👍
@blackyoung8732
@blackyoung8732 7 лет назад
raceaddict321 Kaw and BMW boys because they know what's coming.
@raceaddict3212
@raceaddict3212 7 лет назад
BadSeed Black1911 lol
@TheGetling
@TheGetling 7 лет назад
ye man !!!! honor ! :D
@rudeboy64h
@rudeboy64h 6 лет назад
@Brock do you sell ready flashed ECU I have the Gsxr 1000R with R11 Slip on what makes the best performance tune up I’m in the United Kingdom please help me out I’d like to remove all the restrictions on my bike apart from the top speed limiter
@Gonzo145
@Gonzo145 4 года назад
Is it work the same Way,that they dont open totally on a gsxr 1000 k7 k8
@jim1324
@jim1324 7 лет назад
Is there any change that the throttle blades are speed sensitive ? The front wheel is not spinning. Maybe they only open 100% after 100MPH + in a higher gear ? ect.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@James Park No. The ETV mapping is controlled by throttle percentage and engine RPM, per gear and per power mode selection (A-C). For this test, we altered Mode A (gears 0-6) 100% throttle - all RPM's.
@845racingworks
@845racingworks 7 лет назад
Hi Brock. Not to question what you do, I love watching the tech videos and find it very interesting, but I just have a question myself. I watched what you did, with the Flashed ECU, telling the blades to stay open, thus giving it a higher HP output, but isn't that change you made going to affect the bike running more rich? Should you not also tune something regarding the air intake and the inlet and exhaust valve openings as well? Seeing that more fuel goes into the system, you need more air to ignite it properly. Can this not cause the bikes engine to have pre-mature ware over the long run? I understand Suzuki has to tune it like that, to meet emission requirements etc. Unless this video you made was just to show us what happens when you just tune the throttle blade positions, and your still tinkering with the air/fuel mixture to be spot on, as well as the correct opening of inlet and exhaust valves. Thanks again for your informative videos, I really enjoy watching them.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@EDW 845, thanks!, and good points. Please consider that when we open the inlets, with no additional tuning, the bike gets LEANER at high revs, not richer, as shown in the red line in this dyno chart: www.brocksperformance.com/images/2017_GSX_R1K_LowEndGains2_crp.jpg the rest of your questions will be addressed shortly.
@845racingworks
@845racingworks 7 лет назад
Its strange that it would run leaner, and not richer, but I guess the air flow or o2 sensor picks up that there is more suction or air being displaced through the system, and compensates for that. I will be keeping a close eye out for when your next video appears. I myself, am a Suzuki fan, and switched to S 1000 RR, purely out of frustration due to Suzuki taking to long to develop a bike that can run with the rest of the pack. If this bike does beat the S 1000 RR, I'll consider switching back, but I'm still a bit skeptic, as BMW has set the bar quite high, but hey, I'm open to having my mind blown and proving myself wrong. They have been there before, nothing holding them back, to be on top again.
@joemcnaught8113
@joemcnaught8113 5 лет назад
Hi Brock i have a 05 Hayabusa and would like to derestrict it ive just recently purchaced the clutch mod.would a local suzuki dealer be able to flash
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 5 лет назад
@Joe - most dealers stay away from ECU performance mods/flashing. Your 05 Busa really isn't restricted like today's bikes, but the top speed limiter can be removed and the peak RPM bumped. There are many 3rd party ECU flashing softwares available these days to allow you to do it yourself, or contact Guhl Motors or Ryan Schnitz for a mail in flash service.
@joemcnaught8113
@joemcnaught8113 5 лет назад
@@BrockDavidson thanks Brock
@hayabusa_guy
@hayabusa_guy 7 лет назад
will opening the throttle blades earlier and longer create a lean condition? So after tuning AFR with the PCV there's going to be more hp increase ?
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@Mark Ramoutar - great question! The AFR with the stock ECU at peak power was 11.8-1, the AFR with the flashed ECU was 12.8-1, I would assume that more power could be gained by tuning to an even leaner AFR, but it's something that would need to be adjusted and measured. FYI: Our goal is to install aftermarket components and tune, not tune for stock parts, so we will find out the answer to your question as the project progresses with these aftermarket installations.
@hayabusa_guy
@hayabusa_guy 7 лет назад
Brock Davidson. Awesome! I can't wait to see the results. you have me thinking about ditching my hayabusa and going for a 2017 Suzuki GSXR1000 with all these informative videos.
@BrockDavidson
@BrockDavidson 7 лет назад
@Mark Ramoutar, this link shows the AFR change. Note that it's still quite away's off from the 13.2 line: www.brocksperformance.com/images/2017_GSX_R1K_LowEndGains2_crp.jpg
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