2017 Porsche 911 Carrera & 911 Carrera S - 991.2 - FIRST DRIVE REVIEW (2 of 3)

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MotoMan drives the 2017 Porsche 991.2 - the Porsche 991 with the TWIN TURBO 3.0 Litre flat six engine. In the Mendocino National Forest - the California Redwoods because Porsche disturbed the applecart of it’s pecking order - one steeped in over 35 years of history: A turbo in a Porsche 911 is the pinnacle of that 911. So now, MotoMan goes on a bit of a different quest than usual to answer three questions: Does sound like a Porsche 911? Does it deliver power like a Porsche 911 and most importantly, does it still drive like a Porsche 911?
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@hzhang5957 8 лет назад

I own a 991.1, love the sound, throttle response and every thing else. Will keep it forever.

@rividizd 4 года назад

Good decision!

@swsschz 8 лет назад

i've owned a 911 C2S 997.1. I really enjoy the 3.8 NA engine. unadulterated engine sound with a linear power band. You can never hide turbo lag completely and the sound the turbo engine makes isn't as great as the NA counterpart. As far as the name, i'm ok with 991.2. I probably need to get a 991.1 in the near future to hold on forever.... or maybe a boxster GTS or cayman GTS...

@hacker007300 8 лет назад

Got a 997,2 and i think that i'll keep this one for a long long time, the 3,8NA is just a dream, dont feel like losing .8 liter and than add 2 turbo's

@anthonylessthanzero1498 8 лет назад

Knowing that the Turbos were coming on all new 911 models except for the 911GT RS. I Purposely purchased a 2016 911 GTS rear wheel drive only. Last of the naturally aspirated engines for this year and on. So happy I did! Love that 3.8, 430 hp engine music and the fast shifting PDK!

@z28camaro79 8 лет назад

Not the biggest 911 fan but I absolutely love the spec of this example.

@ToMorrow311 7 лет назад

If you mute the sound, you would think he was Italian. Good review.

@kolinmartz 5 лет назад

It looks like a middle schooler about to do a presentation in front of class where he had to “dress up”.

@wernerdanler2742 3 года назад

@@kolinmartz 😆

@spencer19811 8 лет назад

911 Turbo Lite! From a Cayman S owner

@MarkaRoxx 8 лет назад

Sport chrono has nothing to do with the mirrors. Good review

@Danis8Pastry 8 лет назад

991A ("Aufladung"). The word "aufladung" is a word often used to discribe an engine using forced induction, and means "charging". Fittingly, the new 9A2 engine, could be called the "9A2A"... I have owned a Porsche 944 2.5 & 986 Boxster 2.5.

@ILCapo-mo5jj 8 лет назад

I own Ferraris and Rollses, never owned a 911 but eventually will own a 991.2. But I would like to refer to it as a 991 3.0

@shakesnbake 8 лет назад

+MotoManTV great review as always - I still cant get over that colour - it's beautiful - very old school 911 yet looks modern too and wasnt until you're review in natural light did I notice that. Saw it at Geneva and under the lights it didnt look the same. I'd go with 992 - Porsche's are about simplicity

@overman19870 8 лет назад

great review, as usual. Thank you Motoman! So no Turbolag... i would love to see a comparison test. maybe the guys from motor trend can do a head to head...

@tonychen219 8 лет назад

you've already explained about the spec in the pervious tech review, please just jump straight into driving cause if i want to know about the spec i would just watch the tech review. Same thing apply to many of your reviews.

@prazertv 5 лет назад

There are those who didn't watch the previous video, so it makes sense to include that info in this video. You can easily jump to driving if it bothers you. It's not that difficult to do so.

@chlyon 7 лет назад

911 BT (Base turbo) 911 BTU base turbo upgrade 911 BTX extreme

@astaribo 8 лет назад

Current owner of a 991 targa 4, i think it should be called 991 t since the turbo models are usually referred to as 991 tt. The number 991 should stay since thats how we fanboys distinguish the generations XD.

@sambking 6 лет назад

It's already out there....991.2. This way of designation ".2" has been in existence as a result of computer applications. It's not going away because it is simple to understand. The car is a 2017 Porsche 911 S. The secondary designation is "991.2" and this evolved from the general public. Porsche does not officially call this car a, "991.2." They have their own way of referring to it within the company. But as far as the public goes it's, "991.2." Good luck turning the tide around.

@MrJusmobile 8 лет назад

Just curious as to why at 3:11 you show a 4S (light strip connecting the rear lamps is illuminated) and then state a bit later that you are driving a rear wheel drive 911.

@adimuftic9930 5 лет назад

Good job man

@dulobg3774 3 года назад

991 Geminus (twin, double, pared in Latin) ):):)

@fkporsche1 7 лет назад

Very cute! 911 Baby turbo. 😼 Another interesting review from yiou MotorMan. I'm from the 80's era. Class of 85'. When I bought my first 911 at the dealership. There was a 993 or 996 just came out. I choose to get the 996 because it was a modern new 911. But i realized it was a big mistake. Should of got the 993. Soon I bought a 997S for replacement. Because I love the 993 design but more modern. Now I got the most visceral 997 model which I got a 997.2 GT3 RS. Quite a good visceral feel sport car. Perhaps I should keep this one for a little longer. So, I want to know which model of 911 would you get MotorMan ? Which one is your favorite?

@Tigerloco70 6 лет назад

Frank Kwok s , 4s , gts , and the plain turbo are my favs

@AMG-BENZ-1 6 лет назад

You certainly appeared to ''enjoy'' the Lexus LC a bit more than this generation of 911. After owning two 911's, I can certainly say that ''I'' now prefer my LC. Porsches have lost their emotion while Lexus has just gained it by fitting the ''mamamia'' naturally aspirated glory 5.0L into the chassis it deserved.

@186bingo 8 лет назад

Another great video Motoman! My day improves whenever I see a new one, thank you. As for the name issue, the car's name is the "911 Carrera +/- 4/s/4s". They can't tap into the "turbo" name without compromising their top dog 911. I have not owned a 911 yet but several of my friends and colleagues do.

@pblnlpalu 8 лет назад

I would suggest the carrera SS

@danlee3055 8 лет назад

Or Carrera RS

@jeanclaude9285 8 лет назад

+Voornaam Achternaam how ignorant (to be nice) can someone be to make such a suggestion? i wonder with exasperation

@maestrovso 7 лет назад

Carrera SS would be apt if 991.1 was Carrera SA.

@Bobbie_1999 7 лет назад

Sturmabteilung

@themadplotter 7 лет назад

"Bumble bee isn't designed to fly"? fuck is it designed for then?

@lotinja123 8 лет назад

991.2 Turborrera S :) 991.2 Carrera S-tt / Carrera S-T 991.2 miniTurbo

@Gitohandro 8 лет назад

I wish the turbo s came with a manual

@secondchance4498 8 лет назад

The 911 sport turbo.

@BoujemaaGourzane 7 лет назад

Porsche 911

@adimuftic9930 5 лет назад

I hade reg 911 Targa 911s now my wife has 911 turbo silly right name should only be 911 I love word Carrera and who cares for any other name if you are owner or friend ask for year most people don’t care for what year just miles and how fast 💨 thank you

@wimbrow1 Год назад

you forgot mustang

@humanbeing1675 4 года назад

Butzi is (of course) a nick name....just to let you know.

@AlejandroGonzalez-im4tp 8 лет назад

Can you imagine the badge on the back: 911 Carrera S bi-turbo ?? Shit no.

@dane4327 8 лет назад

Call it the 911 Carrera 3.0

@TheSuperMotoHooligan 8 лет назад

P to the D to the K...

@whitemailprivilege2830 8 лет назад

S to the H to the U to the T to the U to the P...

@TheSuperMotoHooligan 8 лет назад

+John Smith M to the A to the K to the E with a M and a E...

@donaldvankleeck2004 7 лет назад

L to the O to the L...

@lejink 8 лет назад

cary mc carface

@carrionremains926 8 лет назад

man you talk a lot. reminds me of a rambling high school teacher, puts me to sleep go Porsche!

@Grasshopper0122 7 месяцев назад

That is a fact ! ( the rambling at the end was …ah….was….WHAT WAS IT ?)

@MrAriec61 8 лет назад

Бомба! Новейшая разработка " Порше "! Жаль только ,что заломили такое бабло за машину стоимостью в 5000 евро,сделав практичски недостижимой мечтой для большинства автолюбителей ! Об этом ли мечтал покой ный Фердинанд Порше ? !

@JamesH1973 8 лет назад

911t

@bluepirate78 8 лет назад

Zwang

@doubleupsidhu7394 8 лет назад

that color is so hideous lmao

@Tigerloco70 6 лет назад

doubleupsidhu ugly color

@whitemailprivilege2830 8 лет назад

What a POS car

@HexaSquirrel 8 лет назад

+John Smith Let me guess the 911 whooped your favorite cars arse?

@Dexterrrrrrrrrrrrr 8 лет назад

+John Smith Hahahaha POS, oh well, 911s only been about the best all around car for frigging decades. Get your money up and stop hating Johnny boy.

@JoJoJoker 8 лет назад

POS in terms of HP. Then again I'd rather have a 997.2 Turbo S as opposed to a base 991.2 Carrera. Configuring a new 911 must be a blast but not for the $.

@KRBY555 8 лет назад

yip, point of sale for sure

@JoJoJoker 8 лет назад

When you show "engine bay" it is almost like a comedy skit. Not since the 997.2 has the sun shined upon a Porsche 911's engine

@coureurdebois 8 лет назад

i realllly loved the 3.8L, revved so freely :( but turbos is how everything is going not much we can do.

@danekbondar5235 6 лет назад

Great review! I currently own a 997.2 carrera S (Manual) and have absolute 0 complaints! 63k miles of pure joy and no trouble! These cars are tanks! Now, looking for a newer more upgraded version, should I get the 2016 carrera S or 2014 GTS? (Budget conscious here) Wished Porsche would make a 911 Turbo on Manual. Thanks for the feedback

@Luke-ed1gp 3 года назад

What did you end up going with, and why?

@danekbondar5235 3 года назад

@@Luke-ed1gp thank you for asking! I am still enjoying driving my 09 Carrera S. Doesn’t make sense to sell it and over pay for another used ones!

@daivietnguyen7289 6 лет назад

In my humble opinion, by switching to a smaller 3.0 engine but with the help of the twin turbo, Porsche will let any new lucky owner of this new generation 911 Carrera with a lot of low end torque !!! That is equals with a more brilliant car getting even better !!! And if you could afford to add a rear wheel steering to it, then you can have the ultimate 911...Yet !!! :))) I would love to own one !!! Very indeed !!!

@aysbg 8 лет назад

I am a Porsche fan so I liked the video before it ended... the "orthodoxy metaphors" were cool. Serbian Orthodox here ;)

@okumonux 8 лет назад

Poirsche, having no humor at al would probably call it: "Zwangsbeatmeter Sportkraftwagen".

@daseteam 8 лет назад

+okumonux Leistungssteigerung durch Aufladung

@pirateglam 8 лет назад

that is the codename, i believe iit's more than enough nameing in Porsche Carrera S 911

@Doug-tc2px 8 лет назад

I've yet to find a review of the base 911 Carrera, seems like the S is all everyone is talking about. Really an independent review of each model would be better.

@karandewan3499 8 лет назад

best test would be traction control off, downshift and put the foot down mid turn

@JoJoJoker 8 лет назад

911: older than Scientology! How does it compare to that Nissan CVT you had a few weekends ago?

@MotoManTV 8 лет назад

+Abe From an :)

@philnleblanc6664 7 месяцев назад

You need to work on your analogies. Wow, that was terrible.

@itech104 3 года назад

Name: 911 Sled | Reason: German engineering is founded in their Sled making architecture. A 911 is a Sled, the Ultimate Sled. I own a 17' 991.2 Cabriolet.....

@harlemkiid149 8 лет назад

3:45 beautiful spool sound for a stock car

@mazyarahmadi5424 Год назад

Great video, thank you. I'm very seriously thinking of buying a used 2017 C2S, manual. My worry is fishtailing a lot as its' not awd, but maybe that's an over worry?

@jaycoomar4165 8 лет назад

991t. Emphasizing the lowercase 't'

@paulhd9535 6 лет назад

Great review. About the nomenclature, I would leave it as is. The 911 Turbo S name is world renouned, every car enthousiaste knows what it is, what it represents and respects it. In respect to the Carrera & 4s, now that it is turbo powered is only a sing of the times. Let’s not mess up the Porsche branding like AMG has done since 2015. Now AMG is slapping the AMG Logo on everything they make just to get sales. The branding is now a joke among car enthousiaste. IMHO, the fact that Porsche has left the monenclature as is is proof of the greatest respect for their customers. Understandably, I don’t think a 911 TURBO owner would be too pleased to see Turbo badge on every model.

@IceDree 8 лет назад

You forgot about the Chevy Suburban… ;) Yep, Porsche logic for you …. They will used to call the gold paint Palladium Silver, thank god they went back to their senses & removed the 'Silver' from the name for MY16 They'll keep pushing that engine an inch forward with every generation until …. Bam! The 911 is now a Mid-Engine lol. As for the name, the .2 doesn't really bother me …. If I recall correctly, 911 don't get a new number with refreshes…. Only new generations. Perhaps its for the best. In this cruel I'll-Sue-You-world, you don't want some clown suing for buying a car thinking its an all new while its just a refresh …. People are that dumb. Someone sued BMW for the name TwinPower brand …. The idiot thought it means 2 Turbos in his car when in reality it’s a brand that refers to a suite of technologies & the amount of turbos is irrelevant. Is the Lift system Hydraulic based? Or air based? As always, excellent work M!

@primozkrajcar4144 8 лет назад

OK! You wanted to drive Targa, but I looked at it and Porsche doesn't have a targa with 2 wheel drive?!? Only Targa4! Since a friend owns an 1972 Porsche Targa 2.2 I can say that is a pity.

@michaelchen6191 8 лет назад

I would call it the Porsche 911 Imago. An Imago is the scientific name for a butterfly after it emerges from a chrysalis. Which is essentially what they did to the Porsche is morph it into something new. Previous owner 964. Current 981 Boxster Spyder.

@kleinbottled79 8 лет назад

Porsche 911 used to be a car for good drivers. Buy a 911 without the requisite skill; pay the price. Now it's almost the opposite, nothing else this fast is this easy to drive. These base turbos take that experience even further. No longer must one have timing or rhythm when shifting. No need to rev to anywhere near redline, go ahead and shift whenever, pretty much doesn't matter. Power feels kinda like a modern turbo BMW, like it more than I thought I would.

@macstone9719 8 лет назад

I owned two Porsches so far. My very first car, a 914 and later I owned a 944 which was great. I would just ditch the dot for a dash and call the new 911 991-2. This gives it a more German industrial ring than a dot which refers too much to the web culture which may have been intended...Keep it simple. I also never very much liked the idea of giving cars real names like Panamera, Cayenne etc. Ach ja, die Turbolader!

@wernerdanler2742 3 года назад

I remember those men in weird robes. They spoke the same dead language in Germany that they spoke here in the US. Lol The Porsche is like that but now has the modern slang thrown in.

@gordydexter2615 3 года назад

Great video by you Moto-Man!!! I wanted to provide an update: Going from the 997.2 to the 991.1 Porsche made a significant change by extending the wheel base 10cm basically moving the engine forward by 3.937 inches. Plus reducing weight over the 997.2 and lowering the car another 10mm. This was a move to enhance handling. Then in the 991.2 Porsche moved the engine forward another inch or 2.54 cm which is a total change of 5 inches toward a mid-engine compared to the 997.2. That is hugely significant in performance handling while adding 4wheel steering. I have owned 17 Porsches & 9 Corvettes. I have seen the most significant change in performance in the 991.2. I currently own a 2019 Turbo S 911.2: I bought the last of the 991.2 as opposed to the 992 Turbo S because the 991.2 still allows me to shift gears with the console stick as opposed to looking at a Norelco shaver. No doubt the 992 performs better but no manual allowed in the Turbo S and then they took away the ability to shift at the console. That was a deal breaker!!! I am trading in my 60th Anniversary Corvette 427 (which is a convertible 6spd manual with ZR1front end/suspension & ZO6 engine) for a 2022 718 SPYDER.

@anshulmehra2148 8 лет назад

I think they should drop the name "Carrera." Carrera has always represented a car with an engine that really starts to produce torque in the high end of the RPM range. With this model with the turbochargers, that's no longer the case. Something more fitting might be the 911 Turbo C or some other designation that represents the small block nature of this engine compared to the traditional Turbo/Turbo S.

@masmainster 2 года назад

I think what Porsche did was virtually make two identical models of the same car, but wound the boost up on one of them, stuck an S badge on it and charged a whole bunch more money for it. The end.

@corpnupe85 7 лет назад

I appreciate the history that you provide on all of the vehicles that are reviewed.

@anthonyjaswinski5732 7 лет назад

Your church analogy is close, but it's more like the young, nice reverend with the acoustic guitar coming in to make people more happy with that funky sound. No one told him some of us like the loud choir

@shawnusmani4918 8 лет назад

Also a 991.1 S Cab owner with the 3.8 NA and PDK. Previous to this I had a 997.2 4S (non-cab). The 997.2 was the best car I've ever owned, and my only mistake was getting it as a 4S (awd) as opposed to the RWD as it was meant to be. The 991 cab is a beautiful car, but the 997.2 was much more raw... some of it because it was a coupe and more rigid. Can't imagine the turbos on a smaller displacement motor, feels like it would take a good bit away from the acceleration metrics of the car. That being said, I'm sure it's one generation more polished than the 991, and I noticed that it has Apps on the nav (apple and google car). That stuff is great, but my $25k Hyundai also has that stuff. Buy the 991 for driving dynamics, not sure if the turbo setup fits the bill. May have to go Cayman in the future, or go back to a 997.2 when I'm all done with my current 991. Then again, I used to think that the PDK was sacrilegious and now wouldn't buy a Porsche without it.

@jamesellsworth9673 8 лет назад

Forty years ago I bought into the bargain Porsche 924. It handled very well and was torquey...but...it was noisy inside. I had to retrofit a power boost unit to even hear my 'tunes' over the engine. That was important because I used this as a long-distance touring machine. The engine sounded fine up to a point in my journey...but I wanted more tunes over a multi-hour Interstate romp. Now I own a Subaru with a flat four--I have owned three of them. And I have driven flat sixes. Put me down for the flat six, full time four-wheel drive iteration of the Porsche brand. It probably makes little practical touring difference unless you like to drive in hilly country, where the six really helps. Power sags on the four unless you are a decent driver and put your foot in it when you see the challenge coming up. As a 'touring' driver, I like livable decibels and the best combination of acceleration, braking and all-weather handling I can buy. Hey...comfortable seating is also a big plus because I like my motoring fun to come in large doses. Thanks, MotorMan for this series of reviews--where other online motor pundits only have time for one, too-short summary version!

@markusneuber6643 8 лет назад

if 991.2 or what ever. It's the best car in the world and I Love to drive it every day. And the world looks great through a 911 windsheeld.

@creativeplanet2820 8 лет назад

you know you are now mature , when you start loving porsche :D omg , i love porsches sooo much !!! Porsche & Motorola two of my fav companys Legends :D !!!!

@Mihalyofficial 4 года назад

What a beautiful machine and that colour wow! But what are the problems? Every car has something. It would be nice to get an all round review.

@petergutenberger6367 7 лет назад

They should revive the 911 T moniker.

@AlexSami-qw4qu 6 лет назад

Peter Gutenberger you saw it coming! They did.

@rocketdog2116 8 лет назад

Bring back the turbo Carrera nameplate. Emphasis on the small t to differentiate it from the proper 911 Turbo.

@gs1072 8 лет назад

@Motoman why didn't you have the exhaust flaps open (Top right button) next to the stick? Engaged it's twice the sound

@drrb4ever 8 лет назад

my dream car :)

@tony.775 8 лет назад

Good line of chat, good review. Mirrors with sports chrono? Exhausts not in the new centre location? Something amiss with this car.

@pauladdison9978 5 лет назад

He didn't initially call it the 911 but a 901 till Peugeot complained that was their deliniage so had to change it to a 911.

@lorddenselmichel8796 8 лет назад

Back at it again reviewing the hottest Porsche's. The people at Porsche must be found of you

@s39020 7 лет назад

MM: Excellent review; I just discovered your videos, and like them. Re: your request for a name for the 991.2: How about 992? Re: current every day car: 981 base, Manual. Best, -S.

@alberthodge631 5 лет назад

porsche put the engine in the wrong place and just left it there for fifty years ???? really...

@MrAriec61 8 лет назад

Верните достояние народу! Стоимость в производстве -1500 евро,ну пусть в розничной продаже стоил бы автомобиль 5000 евро,но куда такие цены за железяку о четырех колесах !" Порше" народу !

@amill1563 8 лет назад

As good as it is, I am still interested in the next 911 whatever it may be called. I look for more elements from the 918 in the next 911.

@neobourgeoischristum5540 8 лет назад

so you're saying the car is tooooooooo perfect. if one wants a messy ride trying weird stuff drive a Corvette

@MagicAyrtonforever 6 лет назад

Sooooo a bumblebee isn't designed to fly? I'm not it's his mate that's been drinking!

@Monitorimatti 8 лет назад

"the reason why people buy that thing" what? how many people have 1 million dollars?

@96preslav 8 лет назад

I actually like the name 991.2 :D

@fosterscottburke3225 8 лет назад

911 turbo vs. Carrera turbo for 991.2? Continues to be a wonderful automobile...

@williamlopez45 7 лет назад

Here's a name: 911 DTIS for Dual Turbo Integrated System.

@Fastfitnesstips 7 лет назад

what color (colour) is this?? is a lovely grey but what is the porsche official color?

@MotoManTV 7 лет назад

Graphic Blue Metallic . . . And as an FYI . . . When I first saw this color (colour), I went online to build one . . . Carrera S with A LOT of options = US$154,000 . . .

@patrickstarr87 8 лет назад

Glad you went with manual, while its still available 😁👍

@LiveWire276 8 лет назад

Removing a manual in a Porsche 911 is like removing a manual from a Mustang or Camaro. It would suck. I'm glad Porsche understands the true enthusiasts.

@patrickstarr87 8 лет назад

+RichardGT40 agree 😁👍👍👍

@anthonyjaswinski5732 8 лет назад

call it Turbo X. anything with X sounds cool. I have a Cayman. love everything about it but the name

@snowcat3116 8 лет назад

I don't get that diesel like shaped torque curve ! Good review though.

@kaleidoscopeon 8 лет назад

Believe me, you are missing a lot if you have never driven a Porsche. Best driving machine ever.

@Ivan_Magana 7 лет назад

I am thinking between this and a turbo s but this one seems more my price range but I really want the turbo s ):

@bench175 8 лет назад

991ct = 991 Carrera turbo. Sorry, I'm only a future 911 owner.

@Baerchenization 8 лет назад

Carrera designates the base models; The traditional top end turbo is just called that, likewise the targa. So there cannot be a Carrera turbo, just like there is no turbo in the name of base Macans, even though they all have turbos. Btw, this seems like a great colour, but I can imagine a few for this model.