2018 Toyota 4Runner Update - Apex Review's DD

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Original Review Video: • Review: 2018 Toyota 4R...
BP-51 Lift (~$ 2,800) - Again, do NOT used the FJ Fitment Kit , Call ARB and verify part number. The kit sold by TOYTEC will give you headaches. - arbusa.com/Uploads/PDF/newProd...
OEM Audio Plus: ($1,700 + $300 for amp control) oemaudioplus.com/toyota/4runner/
Raingler Net: ($235) I have the forward mount kit in the video - raingler.com/collections/toyo...
Canvasback Liners: ($170 - $400 depending on options)www.canvasback.com/index.php/...

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@Sebastianliv5 6 лет назад

Great video! I have the same model and color, and I am gonna install the Fox 2.5 Series suspension w/ Remote Resivor all around next weekend. Hope it rides well.

@SHWELL11 6 лет назад

Thanks for all the info, I am in the market for a suspension upgrade, so this info is great. I hate the nose dive.

@needtoknow204 6 лет назад

I love my 2015 4runner trail edition! Nice truck!!

@andyking4701 Год назад

Very Sweet Setup

@voodoos1 6 лет назад

I have the same model but stock. Where do you go in Michigan to go off-roading? I know of a couple places but would like to hit more places. I am in Macomb county.

@itr0863 6 лет назад

i totally forgot about your rig. your first initial walkthrough got me hooked months ago. what is the final lift? 3 inches all around?

@vinboughton4751 2 года назад

Thanks great video, Getting my BP-51 installed in late Apr. Cant wait to get this install in my 21 offroad premium.

@ApexReviewsOfficial 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Vin! You are going to love the suspension!

@KenLiew 5 лет назад

Were the 275/70/17 rubbing before the lift? Thank you!

@paulmele3637 6 лет назад

Can you post a link for your headlight upgrade? And how do you like the ones you got?

@vitpav777 5 лет назад

Hey. Would you send me a link for the dual daylight running lights/turn signal. Thank you. (2015 4runner Limited)

@anthonyyun5297 6 лет назад

Awesome videos! I was looking to buy the same set up. Did you do any adjustments to the coil overs or did you install it the way it came out of the box? Thanks

@damacknificent151 5 лет назад

You recommend having kdss or not? I was thinking that's one more issue to worry about if i buy the 4runner with it

@FordFan8691 6 лет назад

i love icon for their customer support... howd they turn you away?

@stevemitchell8320 5 лет назад

Apex.... Nice yota. Did you mount a matching BFG ATKO2 275/70/17 spare to the factory spare wheel? If so, does it fit, and does it sacrifice any clearance in the rear? Thanks!

@plutosforest 4 года назад

Good video. Would've liked to see more shots from underneath it and looking down on the engine. Let's see the new suspension!

@MidMitten3D 4 года назад

Fellow Michigander here wondering how they are holding up after a couple winters on them. I have to replace the front suspension on my 2016 Pro. These have been on the list under fox and icon, but have now jumped to the top after your review video and talking about the anodized coating. Rust is obviously a huge concern of mine living in the mitten.

@itayrozenstein6989 5 лет назад

nice!!! great built

@moekyawphoto 6 лет назад

Thinking of similar set up but with 285x70x17 KO2s (I noticed you're running 275s). Any issues with tires rubbing? Did you have to do any kind of body mount chop or modification to avoid tire rubbing? What was the deciding factor for you to go with BP51 over others in similar price range? (FYI, I got ideas from your videos about Raingler and Canvasback to protect the trunk area from my big dog as well) Thank you for posting very useful information for fellow 5th gen T4R ORP owners..

@marcoe14 2 года назад

I love this ride. Every mod is like a wise mod, not just putting something, all of them add function and adaptation to your life. LOVE IT.

@ApexReviewsOfficial 2 года назад

Thank you for the compliment Marcoe! It’s been a great vehicle for us. Thank you for watching. 👍

@jmike8934 5 лет назад

Hopefully despite it being a month old, this question will catch your attention. How was your 275 KO2 fitment pre lift? Any rub worth mentioning? I know fitment varies from T4R to T4R, meaning you can get very different results from two identical vehicles. It just seems info is all over the place regarding 285s where some only need to move the liner and massage the mud flap, some need to add trimming the bumper to that mod list and going even further there are those who've required the BMC. Others swear it needs to be lifted. I really want to go 285s on my TEP(same wheels as TRD ORP), but a lift isn't in the cards for a long while so I'm just not sure if I want to take the gamble on them only to find out mine is one that would need the BMC. Even then I'd be going a bit simpler with the Billy 5100. On the same note if I'm going to need to relocate the liner and mudflap for 275s I might be more inclined to go ahead with the gamble but if 275s are a perfect fit then I think that's the safer option.

@Captndarty 5 лет назад

Your BP 51s are exactly why I went with the standard OME for my Tacoma. No need for upper control arms. They’re better than stock yet simple without hoses and fittings and joints to rust and wear. All that being said I miss my 4.0 L Tacoma and would think about going to a forerunner (for our puppy)if they just updated the dash and make it more third GEN Tacoma like.

@MD-tr6sh 3 года назад

Just got my BP51s installed, rides 👌. Whats do you have yours set at? Running stock wheels, 275/70/17 KO2s.. Zero rubbing even flexed.. love that i can keep mud flaps and a good footprint without compromising mpgs.

@TheBenupton 6 лет назад

Question. Are those diode dynamic lights wired so they emit white light on the DRL setting, or parking light setting? I have a '16 4Runner, and recently moved to the UK. In the process of converting the lights over to be UK compliant, and having something like that bulb wired to do away with the amber parking lights would be perfect.

@brandonj3556 6 лет назад

Ben Upton I have switchbacks in my 2016 trail, they simply replace the stock turn signal bulb. They will be white for parking light and flash amber for the turn signal. Has nothing to do with the drl. You will have to add a resistor to stop hyper blinking.

@JohnsonBannerman 3 года назад

Are you still happy with the BP-51s? Considering this for my 2021 ORP T4R.

@NickImberyPhotography 5 лет назад

Any updates on the OEM audio plus system? Dying to hear one.

@zachpeat5076 3 года назад

Its good but I wouldn’t say great. Updated head unit prob make it better

@anthonyrosa5006 5 лет назад

A cutout wont change the sound with a subwoofer. Bass frequencies are highly unidirectional . I've played the electric bass for 41 years so I think I might know a little about amplifying bass signals. Nice truck.

@La-huh 2 года назад

Love it, I just got black off road and I’m spend 10k on it to make hell of a 4Runner ….I’m from Detroit area….😍

@raf3030ify 5 лет назад

Awesome video on the 4runner. I'm in the market for a new 4runner after a drunk driver totalled my last one. I'm sold on the Off-road premium, found a used one with KDSS... Wondered what your opinion is on that system? I plan on lifting it 2-3 inches like you have and I'm worried KDSS might make it difficult. I'm wondering if staying away from the KDSS option and just going stock off road premium is the best way as I'll be adding my own lift and wheels anyway. Was hoping you could offer some advice. Thanks & subbed.

@ApexReviewsOfficial 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching Keltik! I was in the same boat as you when I was purchasing this 4Runner! In the end I decided against the KDSS system for two reasons. The first being that I didn't want to add complexity to a vehicle that I was initially attracted to due being fairly "simple" compared to most of the cars on the road. All told they're kind of the dinosaurs of the SUV world, and it's something that I really enjoy! Also, I didn't want to be restricted to certain lifts that were compatible with KDSS. In my personal opinion, I would definitely opt FOR the KDSS system if you were going to leave the 4Runner stock, but once you start to change the geometry of the suspension, I feel the value of the system is somewhat lost in translation. I hope this helps! Again, this is just an opinion. I'm sure others would disagree, but I suppose that's what makes the world interesting. Regards, Apex Reviews

@davidwiseman853 6 лет назад

nice vid!!

@ApexReviewsOfficial 6 лет назад

Thank you David! Glad you enjoyed it.

@hanzberger8751 5 лет назад

did you have it registered as a truck or station wagon? I had a 2005 limited and it was registered as a wagon.(save$)

@kristaobriant3792 5 лет назад

are those the OME rear medium rate coils as well?

@PK-we9rb 2 года назад

I had the same question.

@michaelcolozzi7286 6 лет назад

I saw you have HID Headlights. I am still torn between HIDs and LEDs for my 2018 4runner TRD Off Road Premium. Which do you recommend and what brand do you suggest and why?

@brandonj3556 6 лет назад

Michael Colozzi I put 55w 6000k HIDs from HIDextra.com in my 2016 Trail and am very happy with them. They match the factory led foglights and my led light bar perfectly. I installed led in the high beam for the instant on/off.

@michaelcolozzi7286 6 лет назад

@@brandonj3556 Awesome thank you. The only thing I'm nervous about doing the LEDs for my Highs is I have remote start and it turns my DRL on which would be full time high beams if I go to LEDs

@petecarrillo8311 5 лет назад

@@michaelcolozzi7286 Michael you can do the DRL mod which disables the DRL. I did it to my truck because I cannot stand the DRL location. It looks so goofy using the High beams at low voltage for DRL's. I love the look of the corner ambers as a DRL way better. So I have 55W HID 6000K low beams, 6000K LED high beams for instant ON/OFF, and 6000K LED Fogs all from Headlight Revolution. Way better lighting and look. Have never been flashed. Hope this helps. Get rid of those center DRL's.

@bosse641 6 лет назад

So cool these. Nothing like it. Hope they never change it. How much can it tow ?

@ApexReviewsOfficial 6 лет назад

Agreed John! They’re rated with a 5,000 LB towing capacity.

@marianets4272 2 года назад

Is your collar preset to 20mm? Did you lower it to 10mm since you have no bumper and winch? Thanks

@ApexReviewsOfficial 2 года назад

Marine, I did not lower the collar the 10MM from stock. This is the factory setting of 20MM.

@anthonyszeto5508 6 лет назад

nice rig! Did you had to add a resistor for the switch back or just exchange the bulbs?

@brandonj3556 6 лет назад

Anthony Szeto I have switchbacks on my 16 trail, you will have to add resistors to stop hyper flashing.

@zzanatos2001 5 лет назад

Nice rig and nice dog.

@ApexReviewsOfficial 5 лет назад

Thank you Zach! I think my sidekick likes the 4Runner too. He's a pretty big fan of his personal window back there.

@plutosforest 4 года назад

@@ApexReviewsOfficial probably not an issue for a car this new, but check for exhaust fumes getting sucked in through the back. You don't always smell it when driving, but your dog might.

@ItsDPMikey 6 лет назад

Does this have kdss and if so how did you get the skid plate on there? I bought my TRD pro skid plate but had to have it cut due to kdss arms

@ApexReviewsOfficial 6 лет назад

EyeTell, I didn’t elect the KDSS system with my 4Runner, so modifications to the plate were required.

@keithgreen4590 6 лет назад

Do you have video or pictures of the mods that were required for the skid plate?

@e4m5 6 лет назад

www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/197368-trd-pro-skid-15-4runner-te-w-kdss.html This should help

@TrailRunn4r 5 лет назад

did you notice any loss in power and mpg going from 265 to 275? and are those load range C or E? thanks

@ApexReviewsOfficial 5 лет назад

CD, thanks for watching! I didn't noticed a large decrease in power with the new tires. I'm sure there was some due to the extra weight of the K02's, but it wasn't anything I immediately noticed. The K02 rang in at 55 lbs per tire, versus the stock tire (Dueler H/T) weight of 39 lbs. They are E Load tires, so a portion of that weight is attributed higher ply rating. I was concerned about the E load tires myself, since I thought they would be "overkill" for the 4Runner, but after driving on them for the past 14,000 miles, I cans say that they are a pleasure to live with day to day. With the current BP-51 Suspension and KO2's it rides really well and 85-90% of the nose dive that it had from the factory is gone. There is still some body roll, but it has been improved significantly (non-KDSS). I hope this helps! If you have any further questions, please feel free to reply. Take care, Apex Reviews

@TrailRunn4r 5 лет назад

@@ApexReviewsOfficial thanks for the detailed reply! Yes, my only concern is the E rating of the 275s which I'm afraid will make the ride a bit less smooth than the 265s, other than less fuel efficient. I wish bfg would still make 275 C rated... 😅

@overlandinusa1517 5 лет назад

Did the 275 KO2's require a body chop (w/o the lift)? Was there any rubbing with everything stock?

@HORHAY 4 года назад

I've got that tire on my TRD Pro and stock suspension and it doesn't rub.

@yaojiexu9914 5 лет назад

How do you install you suspension and.skid plate with KDSS？

@keithdickson8364 5 лет назад

Yaojie Xu what is the KDSS on these. Thinking about one of these for next year.

@arthasbenjamin 5 лет назад

Keith Dickson I Google it, most of the videos only install the suspension without KDSS, I am Not Sure How to disconnect.KDSS while changing the suspension.

@cadecompton7713 3 года назад

Cute dog

@TheCls63 4 года назад

how many inches of lift?

@ApexReviewsOfficial 4 года назад

Hey Bob, this is a 3" OME BP-51 lift. If I recall correctly, I saw 2.75" of lift when I measured after install. If you have a 4Runner, I can provide my measurements from center of the hub to the button of the fender so you can compare to a stock truck.

@user-rf4mz6rd3g 4 года назад

This 4runner better than the rest👍👍👍💯🔥. On Dakar only.⚙👌, for victory💪

@cornfed98 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing. How did your BFG KO2 work in the snow, ice, and rain?

@ApexReviewsOfficial 3 года назад

Absolutely! I am very happy with the KO2 overall. They performed well in all forms of precipitation here in Michigan. While not as good as a dedicated snow tire in the cold months, they performed above expectations for an all-season tire. After 35k miles they still have solid tread, but would need replaced before the next winter season for peace of mind. Thank you for watching!

@cornfed98 3 года назад

@@ApexReviewsOfficial Thanks for the reply.

@TheRealAMR- 2 года назад

Hey, thanks for the update. Did you adjust any preload before installing?

@ApexReviewsOfficial 2 года назад

I did not, these were installed with the factory 20mm of preload. Thanks for watching!

@TheRealAMR- 2 года назад

@@ApexReviewsOfficial what settings in the front & rear did you find was best?

@crbourret 4 года назад

When you put on the TRD skid plate did you have to remove the red lettering or did it come the way it is on your rig? I want to get one but I've only seen them with the big red TRD letters on them.

@ApexReviewsOfficial 4 года назад

Charlie, they added the red recessed lettering on the TRD Pro skid plate withing the past couple years. I just did a bit of research and you can pop the lettering out, but it will have a few holes that will need to be plugged. I would recommend checking eBay for some used stock if you'd prefer the older style. You may be able to find a new boxed unit if you're lucky. You'll want to double check, but I believe the old P/N is PT938-00140.

@dodocolcol 4 года назад

Does it have a 3" lift? Thanks

@ApexReviewsOfficial 4 года назад

Yes sir! This is a 3" ARB OME BP-51 suspension lift.

@jimmyc5050 4 года назад

@@ApexReviewsOfficial How did it affect the ride? I'm sure it stiffened it up, but too much for it mostly being a daily driver??

@hanzberger8751 5 лет назад

I thought KDSS was standard on these?

@ApexReviewsOfficial 5 лет назад

Hanz, KDSS is optional. If you'd like, you can build one Toyota's website to check pricing. The system would have added some complexity to my lift so I decided against it. Thanks for watching.

@kevinp5325 5 лет назад

Nice truck bud. Don't fret too much over the rust on the suspension components...it's going to happen one way or another. Apply fluid film every now and then and just enjoy your truck.

@ApexReviewsOfficial 5 лет назад

Thank you Kal! I've been coating the frame with Fluid Film by hand a couple times a year and have taken the mindset that whatever rust comes through now is bound to happen. I believe it's just one of those things that annoys you like "your first scratch", but just the same, over time it doesn't really bother you. Thanks for watching. Take care, Chad

@kevinp5325 5 лет назад

@@ApexReviewsOfficial applying fluid film a couple times per year seems excessive. But it's your truck, do as you see fit. You live in a rust region. Enjoy your truck and bare in mind that 10 years down the road, you'll probably be getting into something else....vehicles certainly last longer than 10 years in these northern states, but they start to look like crap by that point.

@dsal8001 5 лет назад

Nice 4Runner who did you buy your suspension through?

@ApexReviewsOfficial 5 лет назад

Thank you David! I purchased the suspension through Toytec, but to be quite honest, I wasn't impressed with the customer support after the sale. I would recommend calling ARB direct and purchasing the kit from one of their other distributors. They'll also provide the correct part numbers for your 4Runner since the one Toytec provided me had a make shift fix included instead of the proper drop bracket that ARB provides for the 4Runner application. For other systems, I'm sure Toytec would be fine, but for the BP-51, I would look elsewhere. EDIT: The proper bracket can be seen on the thread below. It's a nice solid piece of metal. Instead of this, Toytec sent me some aluminum spacers to "drop" the factory bracket. www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/245902-arb-sway-bar-rub-fix-bp-51-fit-kit.html

@dsal8001 5 лет назад

@@ApexReviewsOfficial Thank you for the information I appreciate it.

@joek1978atyahoo 5 лет назад

I haven't seen one good video yet of an 18 premium version yet... Every video for the 4runner is for trd pro versions....most ppl don't have trd versions

@Agent.K. 4 года назад

Is this a weekend warrior? I’m not sure if I should pay this amount for a weekend warrior.

@ApexReviewsOfficial 4 года назад

Hello Agent K (I like the name!). In my case, the 4Runner was a daily driver for the past ~2 years, but has recently became the "weekend warrior" for us. It's a great day to day vehicle, but with my relatively long commute to work, it wasn't the most economical vehicle to drive. I'd say most people buy the 4Runner as a daily driver, and it is well suited for the task. Overall the vehicle is a great performer out of the gate, with our only dislike being the nose dive we had under braking when it was stock. If you purchase one, try one with and without KDSS so you can make in informed purchase. If one with KDSS is unavailable in your area, the nose dive can be remedied with slight suspension mods. I wish you the luck in your search for a new vehicle. I hope the 4Runner works well for your needs!

@Agent.K. 4 года назад

Apex Reviews Thanks a lot 🙏

@tmwall25 5 лет назад

how did u get granny in there

@ApexReviewsOfficial 5 лет назад

Haha, let's just say she wasn't a fan of the 4Runner while she was getting in. She warmed up to it while she was inside.

@bring_it_on9934 5 лет назад

Have you had issues with bushings wearing out and/or leaks? Seems that's a major cause of warranty replacements with these both in Australia (Land Cruisers) and the US (Tacoma community).

@ApexReviewsOfficial 5 лет назад

I haven't had any issues with the 4Runner yet. It's at ~25,000 miles and all of the factory bushings appear to be holding up just fine. The upper control arms were replaced with ICON variants, so I can't comment on the factory ones in this case.

@firesupport162 5 лет назад

Apex those diode dynamics are way over priced you could of gotten the same setup for less and still same if not better quality

@celticmandoplayer 6 лет назад

Please, stop calling it a 'car'. thanks. And, yes, your skid plate is 1/4 ". (I own a 2017 TRD PRO 4Runner) :-)

@s2775913s 5 лет назад

Why are you so but-hurt, it is technically a car.

@celticmandoplayer 5 лет назад

@@s2775913s Just shows your ignorance and oh yeah, what are you 10yrs old ? What a juvenile. I see that you can't spell either.

@s2775913s 5 лет назад

@@celticmandoplayer Ignorance? Do you even know the definition of the word "car"? The fact that you resort to an emotional response says much about your personality and own insecurities. What's so wrong about being juvenile, weren't you young once? And don't you think placing smiley faces on your RU-vid comment might be a bit juvenile? P.D. Having a typo doesn't mean someone can't spell, it carries zero weight as an insult and just makes you look desperate.