@@am-wj2yn if you do, get the v6 pentastar, that engine reaches 300k in the caravan. Very big engine for small vehicle which is great! I own the Cherokee trailhawk elite
This reviewer has a very likable quality. I enjoy watching his videos. I’d say it was a Canadian thing, except I can’t stand Trudeau. Two thumbs up on joining TFL.
I forget this fellas name, but hes a fantastic reviewer. As for the Cherokee Trailhawk, add some rock sliders and improved tires and this little monster will go a LOT of places lol. Taken it through Hells Revenge and all the local trails in my Wrangler club. A couple guys drove theirs, without lifts, to Top Of The World down that way. The 6cyl is the best too. Great power, nice meaty torque when you need it in 4 low. A trail like you are doing is cheese easy.
Can't wait to take mine to Moab...i'll be hitting some CO trails this summer with my club, by then i'll have a lift and bigger tires...and *maybe* a new metal front bumper, will be sad to no longer say "yep, i'm still stock"...
Also due to the axle geometries and such, much more than 3" lifts can start to cause issues with the CV angles on KL's. And we can do 2" lifts and still keep warranty. But as much as she's been able to conquer stock, i think she'll do just fine with the extra 3.5" clearance after lift and tires.
Love my 2019 Trailhawk! Great daily driver and i can follow most reasonable wranglers wherever they go! Every ride with my club get more fans from the wrangler owners who never thought i could follow them anywhere! Sadly by the next time i go out i'll no longer be stock as i'm getting the suspension lift from Dobinsons and bigger MT tires. Still have a few vids from this year that i haven't put up yet though.
I bought my 2.0 turbo trailhawk new yesterday, today I am very happy, even the color Green olives I like very much, I live in California in Newport Beach, California there are many roads off the road, in spring I go for my first test. Thanks for the great video, sorry my English I've only been living in Newport beach for 6 years, I'm deaf, I have a cochlear implant. Thank you. Mauro
Went offroading in my 19 trailhawk alot the last 2 years and my only issue is those Firestone destinations kinda suck. Popped 2 tires in 2 years. Car is overall a beast, handles trails that my wrangler struggled with.
@@midnitesilverrun8631 well you aren't doing actual off roading in Moab and the Rockies then dude. The stock AT Firestones has zero side wall protection. Also got rid that car because it actually sucks lol.
I bought 2019 and at 5000 miles it sits at the dealer with manufacturer's best engineers trying to fix it. Day 15 at time of post. Beware of the bells and whistles and transmission
Transmission? thought the fixed the transmission issues. My 2015 blew up a transmission at 30k miles, but have had no problems since and I have 68k on it now.
I believe the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk (WK II) rear diff has the same specs as the WK (Eaton limited-slip/auto locker), only the front diff is now open and uses brake modulation to find traction. Correct me if I'm wrong though...
I've always been a Jeep Wrangler owner and Rubicon guy.. but this time I purchased a new 2020 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk and I'm really impressed with the off-road performance. I went with the 2 liter turbo and I call it my Rubicon sports car.. with 270 hp.and 295ftp of torque it has plenty of power on the road and plenty of power and torque off the road and it really rides great without giving up the off-road capability... love it 😎👍
For me the Cherokee Trailhawk is the right vehicle. Sure it's not the old XJ but as far as new off road capable vehicles go I feel it's the right size. Nothing against the Wrangler but it's not a good choice for me, they are a little too stiff for my taste.
Whomst’d let SpongeBob drive the Green one? “Ok, the surface is a little wet & slick from the snow, so take it easy up & allow the terrain management pick the...” Floor it? ( spins & bounces off rocks ) “Ok, got a few downhill drops, the terrain management will bring you down slowly & the articulation will keep you high enough off .....” Floor it? ( slides to the left as rearend slams down )
@@paulj9821 85,000km here and all I've replaced is the shocks/struts on the front end under warranty. I've had mine on all kinds of trails and everything's worked great. The KL had some issues in the past with the transmission, but most of that has been fixed with updates over the years. I'm very happy with mine and expect to have it for many many years to come.
@@rylancory Yeah the ZF-9 transmission had issues initially when it was very new tech with Honda, ACURA, Land Rover and Jeep KL. Chrysler fixed those issues from 2016 onwards. Around Jan 2018 all KL's got a firmware flash for the trans that transformed the shifting patterns to the best they ever have been. Sadly Honda, ACURA and Landrover seemed to give up on the ZF-9 transmission software and those people got burned.
I just bought a '19 Cherokee TH last month, love it so far. I've only done a little 4-wheeling so far, but also pulled my SxS trailer with it, which it does very well. With V6, Cold, Convenience and Tow packages it was about $31k USD out the door, including my trade-in. :) Warm weather highway MPG was 29 (2WD), cold weather + winter gas highway mpg about 24-ish on mostly flat OH roads.
@@FDNY101202 IF you need to tow anything, the V6 is rated at 4500 lbs, the 2L turbo at 4000 lbs. *with* the Tow Package for each. Even without the trailer, I like the V6. :)
Ohio you say? I was getting ~26 mpg this summer before my air filter apparently got covered in mud from a huge hole in the airbox...after that its slowly dropped to ~20mpg before i got rear ended last month(never thought to check the air filter as the intake was clean). Once i get it back i'll have to do some tests now that i have a clean air filter. I'm trying to get a group of Trailhawks to do some trails in southern ohio this spring...let me know if you are interested!
I think the Compass TH could probably do GMH. GMH would be trivial for the Cherokee and GC THs. The Cherokee TH can easily do Cliffhanger 1.0 and probably the easy line on Cliffhanger 2.0.
I am so disappointed with the selection of todays true 4x4 suv's compared to 20 years ago. Difficult to put the size tires on I want (33 min, ideally 35-37). These cherokees can't fit anything big at all tire wise. Its pretty much down to the wrangler and 4runner, and I own both. And of course the 200 series cruiser.
So happy that FCA allowed Jeep to make the KL TH legitimately capable off road. They’re going for $32k fully loaded around me and I get to shop for an SUV over the next 12 months. Going to be hard to find a better deal for a family car that I can still have fun with off road sometimes and tow up to 4500 lbs so I’ll probably end up with ones of these unless I find an insane deal on a GC or Ford comes out with a Bronco that’s the same price as the Ranger (doubtful).
A couple of years ago when we had more snow in wi, my bor used his 90s serria to pull these little jeeps, trail hawk and other packages Cherokees out of ditches and off snow banks. Tire choices and driving poorly got these over confident people stuck in 2016 off roaders. Dont get me wrong if you like them, great. They're not for me. Around here they definitely are the stuff for parking lot crawling more the rocks. We that's what they're being used for. Any way good luck happy new year. Love the videos even if I dont agree. I typically come out with more knowledge.
@guy proulxWhat you believe is meaningless. Your opinion is extremely bias for the Toyota and against the Jeep. You're obviously a Jeep hater. Not surprised by your answer. If these guys put a Cherokee trailhawk through it you would still try to deny it any credibility. But from what I seen these Cherokees do, it would not surprise me whatsoever if it not only went through the ice, but did it better than the 4 runner.
@guy proulx Again your opinion is meaningless. You have an agenda of hate for the Jeep. And the fact that this Cherokee can very well go thru that ice better than the 4 runner makes you hate it more.
i wish they gave it rectangular headlamps like the original Cherokee. Also, it's good it has rear lockers but I find ridiculous that the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk doesn't. The GC should have then rear and front lockers to justify the "flagship" status.
I had a 2014 Cherokee Trailhawk. All I did was put slightly larger AT tires on it, and then I ran a real off road trail out here in AZ called Crown King with a couple buddies in Wranglers. I was actually laughed at by the park ranger at the start of the trail because it looks like a typical SUV. This thing handled the trail extremely well, even outperforming one of the guys in an older 95 Wrangler with open diffs on 33" BFGs on many of the obstacles. I ended up getting rid of it because a bunch of interior pieces started falling apart randomly, which made me seriously question the long term build quality.
The compass is only 0.3in less ground clearance! 10in shorter They honestly preform very close depending on driving skills! Obviously in the Compass you have to pick your lines a little bit more!
Rick diculas Compass also has the smaller 2.4L Tigershark engine only and would benefit from having the 2.0T as an option. But otherwise, I’m very satisfied with my own 2018 Compass. Very capable, yet also car-like and efficient.
2:23 WRONG! Omfg. So what you described was Toyota’s auto lsd which isn’t a lsd at all. You guys REFUSE to say this about Toyota, and then completely get Jeeps actual elsd wrong. It’s an actual limited slip differential. It’s actually strong enough to lock both wheels together like the clutch pack operated g80 locker. When the computer detects slip it signals the elsd actuator to provide actual differential locking (up to an unknown torque specification). The jeep wk gc and commander had these front and rear instead of the wkII rear only and you can easily find videos of them crawling with a wheel up in the air and then behaving like on demand lockers. They’re NOT brake based systems. That is Toyota.
can you press a button to lock the rear diff. in the grand cherokee??? - g80 is a mechanical locking diff- not an electronic servo operated clutch pack limited slip diff
tmwall25 can you press a button to lock the g80? Lol love your flawed logic. The g80 is, by Eaton’s description, an energized clutch pack differential. “Utilizing a flyweight mechanism and self-energizing clutch system.” Like the Grand, a device measures wheel speed differences and then energized a clutch pack. The g80 uses flyweights and a wave plate, the elsd uses a computer and actuator. Both provide enough force to lock both wheels together. They both lock up using an energized clutch pack after sensing wheel spin (which is limiting slip... go figure) They use similar clutch packs to what an automatic transmissions motorcycle transmission would use to transfer torque. Plenty strong. www.eaton.com/us/en-us/catalog/differentials/mlocker.html
tmwall25 2nd reply. Also from Eaton’s website. “When a low-traction situation occurs that causes a wheel speed difference greater than 100 RPM, a flyweight mechanism opens to engage a latching bracket. The stopped flyweight triggers a self-energizing clutch system, forcing a cam plate to ramp against a side gear. Cam plate ramping will continue to increase until both axles turn at the same speed (full lock).” The only mechanical part of this “locker” is how it senses wheel speed differences. Otherwise it’s the same functionality. Clutch packs when properly motivated (energized) can snap transmission shafts and explode differential in automatics. Not really a revelation to get locking effect with clutches.
I will hopefully be getting one in that exact color within the next few weeks. Just waiting on it to be delivered. Curious if I should invest in meatier tires or not.
Are you sure about that front wheel drive, I just purchased a 2021 TrailHawk 4 days ago, & this really happened after signing all the paperwork & being no more than 1/2 mile from the dealer & no more than 40 miles total on the Jeep the front end of the front driveshaft disconnected & was flopping around on the skidplate, I was able to drive it back to the dealer
Isn't there a Grand Cherokee Trailhawk? Based on a RWD platform? If so, that would be easier to lift more than 2-3", regear, and to put aftermarket lockers in either end.
I mean if I’m going to be doing 80% DD & 20% off-roading, do I really need a Wrangler or a Lifted truck? I may just throw a 2 inch lift in this with some 31s & call it a day.
That’s terrain ... and snow! In Germany no one would do more than 15 mph under these conditions - as soon as rational minded behind the wheel!🤣 cool vid!
Do the lift on the Cherokee. Get the 30” tires. Did it on my sport, got better Kuhmo tires, don’t have the ad2 or the lockers......can only imagine what it would chew through. Also go back through what your drive modes do. Snow mode limits the trans and doesn’t let you down in those torque pop spots so you are less likely to break your wheels loose and hence get stuck in snow
Sorry folks but I can't find a good amount of videos on KL's non TrailHawk addition videos. I have a 2019 Jeep Cherokee Latitude Plus AD2. Anyone have links to AD1 or AD2 going on trails? Link or hit me up.
Bought one of these Brand new because it was cheaper than buying any of the other cars used. And it's been a blast. Week into owning it had to off-road after a tree fell and blocked all the cars in. A year later it's comfy, capable and quiet where it matters. Just wish there were more aftermarket odds and ends to make it look even more unique.
To really show what this vehicle is able to do, drive it in deep blizzard conditions to see if it can pull through. Otherwise these videos look like a paid advertisement and only shows minimal performance of what is claimed to be a fully capable off road vehicle.
After watching all the 3 videos and being on top of jeeps for some years now... I really think Jeep is missing on something here. First of all, I think any off roader would prefer a RWD based vehicle than a FWD based one. I also think Jeep should be offering the option of a pentastar Cherokee for the trailhawk, even if the rest of the market points towards turbo engines. Finally, Jeeps are on the premium side of the spectrum, so a really rounded vehicle with great specs for both highway and Off Road should be a must here. I just think Jeep is the one brand that could pull off big engine options all around, permanent AWD, lockers, transfer case, etc. And honestly, offer at least a BFG trail terrain or a nitto trail grapler for the trailhawk models. Maybe the Grand Cherokee is the only one that could justify a set of KO2's due to the size, but most tires look a lot more like all seasons rather than all terrains and that is absolutely unacceptable for a trailhawk. We want a 3.6L cherokee with 2 more inches of lift and proper good brand tires. We want a 2.0 turbo Compass with a proper transfer case, 1.5 more inches of lift and proper good brand tires. And we want a nice Grand Cherokee with a proper transfer case, locking rear diff and LS diff on the front using the Hemi (and proper good brand tires).
Any thoughts on the Cherokee Trailhawk vs the new Toyota RAV4 Adventure? Currently deciding between the two. I think I'm leaning toward the Jeep since I think it will be better off road and in the snow.
@@allteeth yeh man. Thats weird. Kinda turns me off from them if they are front wheel drive. You'd think and suv would be all rear wheel. Sport mode sounds nice but i think in the video the guy says uts just ok.
You guys are funny. The Trailhawk is always in 4x4 mode. It's not capable of being in 2wd mode. There reviewer here has made multiple mistakes. First instance the base model called the sport is 2WD since it lacks the Active Drive 1 or 2 platform.
FWD probably tends to be cheaper to manufacture and is easily integrated into an economical unibody vehicle. Separate rear diffs and driveshafts probably tend to add manufacturing cost and reduce MPG. A rear drivetrain can be added to JUST the 4WD models as a mere afterthought. At some southern Jeep dealerships, there may not be any 4WD models in stock. At the Jeep dealership I worked at, we often had no new 4WD Grand Cherokees, Cherokees, Compasses, Renegades, or Patriots in stock. They were all 2WD. I even saw 2WD JKs there, but all of our new Wranglers were 4WD.
The rear locker makes the rear wheels both have power to them all the time (for use in loose dirt, mud, snow, etc). Without at locker the wheel with no traction gets all the power, but provides no vehicle movement, so that wheel just spins in the air. Meanwhile, the opposite tire has traction just sits there, because all the power is going to the spinning wheel. Normally, you don't want the two wheels locked, because when you turn the outside wheel need to turn faster then the inside wheel does. There's a component called a differential between the two drive wheels, which allows the two wheels to turn at different speeds.
God the KL is such an awful piece of crap. I had one for 80k miles, wheeled it only a few times (got stuck every time because it’s terrible ground clearance would high center on everything). It’s a fire road car at the most, NOT a truck. I babied mine and it still has the following parts replaced under warranty. Rear differential, PTU, front struts, front strut mounts, fuel tank assembly, front drive axles, all motor mounts and transmissions, and a few other small parts. If you own one of these, Get rid of it ASAP. Worthless piece of hot garbage.
Mine is Fearless, named for a reason, stock +rock rails and i've followed many a modified wrangler through crap they never thought i'd make it through. You got stuck because you likely didn't know how to pick a line you COULD do... Its only a '19 so haven't had any major issues crop up, other than a huge hole in the air box that let a bunch of mud clog my air filter and i never checked it adding some stress to my engine...but the hole is now plugged and air filter replaced...we'll see how she gets along now. Many other people have wheeled these on a near weekly bases for YEARS...and they are still going strong.
Obviously i'm doing it wrong because i'm doing stuff you claim is not possible for this thing...and yes, i will continue to enjoy the places this Jeep takes me!
Fearless Trailhawk look man, I get it. I loved mine for the first year too. It did very well when the tires touched the ground, but where there is single track and a “line” is not optional, it would hit ruts and get stuck. Thank god it had good recovery points. Just wait until it starts falling apart on you and Chrysler gives you the run around. Take care.
I have an 01 and my friend has a 16. His won't follow me to the pond. I've pulled him out of every thing. Lol. He gets stuck in puddles. Lololol. If the grass is too wet on a hill he just rolls backwards. My old pile rescues his fist constantly.
Was pretty interesting in the cherokee and grand cherokee until I looked up their reliability and seen they are second from the bottom only beet by fiat.
@@sheshellsseasells no cuz sport mode makes the Jeep rear wheel biased. In auto the Jeep is front wheel biased only engaging the rears as a form of traction control.
