if i tell you to jump off the cliff n state you you'll stay alive without a single scratch would you jump?..how can anyone state that it's a reliable engine while it hasn't even done a 1000miles..try to know more about lots of different old and then newer engines, and how they were made, then specifically get a deeper look at this engine, n you'll realize, that this engine is a nightmare..n i don't think you want this shit in your life..(ofc, it's too bad you don't have a lot to choose from..most of them are like this these days)..unless you're ok with the fact it's gonna run ~120kmiles, maybe a lil longer if lucky, n then you dispose of the car..unless you always buy everything new, just because it's new, n it's cool or some level of smth..unless you are used to change your car every 2-3 years or so..then nothing to worry about..i'm more than sure that this engine won't have anything relative with a word "bulletproof", or "long lasting" or anythin like that;p..actually almost all engines these days are non repairable, last about 120-150k miles n then you throw away the engine along with the car..so it's no wonder..
bonifacijus11 I don’t think you stated once how this cars engine is unreliable? Can you give one mechanical reason as to why this engine will “only last 120-150k miles and then break”
bonifacijus11 - and you know all this how?! Did you have one and drove it 120,000 mls and it broke?! Toyota is not the largest carmaker for nothing, if they were making dreadful cars they would not be what they are. So facts, please! .
I had a four speed manual, 85HP Fiat 128. I drove that car everywhere like I was Mario Andretti, and had a blast, yet never got a speeding ticket. Top speed was 80-85 mph. I miss that car.
It's awesome driving 'slow' cars like a Formula1 driver! As a teen I had a '77 Fiat X1/9 and '80 Honda Civic...had to redline every shift in order to get the car to move out of it's own way. Too much fun and, I miss those cars as well.
No matter how many 488 Pistas or Laferraris or P1s there are in the world, at the end of the day the most fun cars to drive fast are the slowest, most easy going commuter cars.
Yep. There's those that have 800hp street cars that actually get to open them up on a straight section of road, every now and then. And there's there's those closer to 120hp that opens them up and has a blast all day, every day. Cheaper on gas too.
blipco5 That’s how my 2006 Scion xA w/ a stick is. It only puts out 106 hp, and yet it’s so much fun to drive. I’d rather drive a slow car fast than vice versa any day of the week. The mileage is amazing, too (35-37 mpg in mixed driving)!
Back in the day a buddy of mine had a 128. I drag raced him my '68 Beetle. Slowest drag race ever, funny as hell, both of us in hysterics trying to get to 60mph. It's not all about laying down 11's.
Not everyday that Marc can claim to be "tickled pink" about a car review. Congratulations Toyota. Toyota needs fun cars like this for the budget oriented.
It is a common thread in many reviews of the manual Corolla HB - smiles & giggles. I bought one as my first manual driving experience for that reason - along with being lowest cost for an unnecessary toy
I stalled a lot at first & was a bit stressed - but now at 700 miles I’m having more fun. Being my first manual I have nothing to compare it to. Most reviewers say it is great for a beginner & and I’m not going to argue. I DO use the iMT rev matching. Sometimes I forget to turn it on. It is better at rev match than me - but hey, it is a computer. I usually remember to turn it on! I DON’T use the “hill hold assist”. Stalled every time. Finding the bite point with brake on & then giving gas and holding then releasing clutch much easier. Computer nails rev match but screws up my hill starts, I would highly recommend as a first manual. I was considering something more powerful (Mustang/Camaro) and very very glad I pick the Corolla Hatchback manual.
@@GC-kw1gq I know this is an older comment, but I was wondering if you have discovered the joy of the brake hold feature. It's the "B" button on the center console. Like you, this is my first manual car, and I bought it as a weekend toy (I use my automatic car on weekdays). Every time I start up this car, I press both the iMT and the brake hold buttons. As implied, brake hold keeps the brakes on, and it automatically releases once you press the gas pedal. So, you can be on an incline, with the gear shift in neutral, with both feet on the floor, and the car will not move. For steeper hills, though, you need to use the electronic parking brake. You can practice in a parking garage to feel out when to use the parking brake and when to use brake hold. Brake hold does not interfere with iMT. For better or for worse, I never bothered to master hill starts or starts on slight inclines. I figured, I paid for this amazing new technology, and there's no shame in using it.
I bought the 2019 Corolla hatchback 6 speed last year and I still like it. The dash protrusion on the driver side has a benefit if you slide back and recline the seat. It offers support for your calves as your feet approach the side view mirror while in a reclined position. I work grocery and tend to take a nap on my lunch and this is a great feature.
@@thegreenpickel nice, I’m planning on trading in my 2013 FRS for one. Had this car for 8 years so kinda hard to pull the trigger. Trying to make a decision between this and a a Honda hatch. Thank you for the fast reply.
@James DeHart When he said it's not a sports car but its reliable, that's what has me thinking about getting one! BRZ/86 is the car i dream about but i love the reliability of the Toyota! Any thoughts after having your corolla for a year??
@@abesickerz it's awesome! Have 20k miles on it now and it's been nothing but good to me. I did put lowering springs just to make it look a little more sporty but that's it. People do like to ask if it's fast and I just laugh and say a minivan would walk all over me!
who cares. the main goal is to get you to point a and point b. it doesn't matter if you can shift to a higher gear to go faster because if there's a car infront of you you'll be driving to their speed. then of course..there's the option of driving like a dumbass but hey..you'll reap what you sow at that point lol
@@shushuyu That's pretty much the exact difference between an average driver and an enthusiast. Sure, most of driving is point A to point B, but if you enjoy driving, there can absolutely be more fun elements added for those who would have fun having them (p.ex: more powerful engine, stiffer suspension, LSD, better exhaust, etc...). At the end of the day, you can dilute pretty much anything to it's primary purpose, but if you get a kick out of it, there's no shame in making it more enjoyable. A job for instance is primarily a source of income, but hey if you can add things into your job to make it fun, why not? it will certainly spice life up a little.
Love it, 16 minutes of praising the car and how fantastically engineered and built it is, and yet it's still called "disposable". Toyotas and other similar brands hold their value so well specifically because they aren't disposable; European luxury brands built to be leased are the actually disposable vehicles.
You dispose of things that have no soul. Therefore=still disposable. It's an appliance. A nice one, but one that you will trade in 36 months later and never look back.
@@millll111lllI I'll prefer the Corolla to any of the pompous overengineered unreliable euro trash "with a soul" any day. At least the Corolla will be still running after 10-15 years with minimal maintenance
I think 'disposable' is in reference to it not being a collectable, 'special' class of car, e.g. Honda S2000. Pretty much all compact cars besides some hot hatches and some luxury brand models would be considered 'disposable'.
You will have to wait a little longer then. But for the moment, you have that, and it's not bad. If you looked at this review though, you would have grasp that the gazoo version on this base will be amazing. Also, they are inherent qualities to have slightly slower engines on a bombproof base like that. Like Mr. Goose said, you can drive this all day long like a complete psycho, and that thing will not burn too much fuel or have his ability to function reliably impared in any way. We are very near to the core of old Toyota fun cars.
@@CatalystOfFire If Hyundai can make the veloster n for under 30k, so can toyota. If ford can make the focus st for under 30k, so can Toyota. Though I doubt it will be available in NA. We rarely get the cool small cars.
@@2010ngojo Scotty said it's coming with a Mazda turbo engine, 250hp or so, around 30k so no one would probably buy it, as you just saw, Toyota put time into the Multi link rear suspension which is why they wouldn't be able to sell it for cheap
Ji9303 more power, more money. For someone like me who is driving around a 10 year old Subaru, this car would be a little dream come true at a great price and insurance rate. What’s wrong with a normal 4 cylinder manual car, zooming around to the grocery store. People want everything.
@@robob221 he wasn't saying the car is bad, does the 40 Grand is way too much for what you get. A new type r or the last of the focus rs's was thirty-five to forty Grand and would destroy this thing the only upside is Toyota reliability and build quality. If they could get a little bit more power and change a couple things it'll be worth the 40 gees. Sucks how choices for those types of cars are so limited nowadays. Who wants to buy a Subaru they're cool cars but their reliability sucks.
Thank you Mark for doing a manual review. I’ve had my manual Corolla XSE now for about 8 months, and still haven’t fallen in love with it. I appreciate the ride comfort, but I feel that the driving experience is pretty underwhelming. Anyway, I love the videos, and keep them coming!
I got rid of mine. Felt similar. Too electronic. Couldn't "feel" the road in the steering. Couldn't "feel" the clutch engagement in the pedal. Just felt overall boring. When would let my arms rest by my sides, the side bolsters really irritated my ulna nerves in my elbows, I was having constant nerve pain in my arms. I basically either had to deal with nerve pain, or hold my arms "up" somehow the whole time I was driving. There was zero trunk if you like having a "donut" spare... The fake exhaust pipe... I felt like the more I had it, the more I felt like it was rushed and made to look flashy rather than perform or give the driver a fun experience. I'm screaming around the streets now in my faithful old 2007 yaris 5 spd with 250k now! WAY more fun to drive! You have to floor it everywhere and you can definitely feel the road and the clutch engagement. It feels like I'm in the Fast and the Furious, as long as I don't notice the mini-vans flying past me all day long... lol I'm considering doing some mods to it since it's paid off, but the 1NZ-FE doesn't really have many affordable options that deliver real performance upgrades. It would be more for fun and tinkering with the car more than anything.
@@Isaiah-ft5nx I agree on the clutch and steering feel, but you’re comparing the feel of old, mechanical everything cars to modern ones. You can’t. Have you driven a GTI?
Taylor Rhodes definitely not the first time they’ve been cool. If you’re unfamiliar, or you may have just forgotten, I would like to encourage you to take a look at the JDM corollas from the 70s- late 80s. They are pretty cool and since they’re older than 25 years, you can import them as a classic.
Thank you for adding to my post-hoc rationalization. I bought this car a year ago. First car besides my 2009 VW where I didn’t want to trade it in after a year. Does everything very well.
100% agree. The manual is the only way to buy this car unless you sit in bumper to bumper all the time. Wish the sedan came in XSE trim in the USA as well.
Love you guys review. I’ve watched several reviews. Many good ones, but none of them went into the rear suspension, as you did, great information and explains a lot. I just purchased a 2021 w/6 speed manual, silver w/black roof. It is everything you guys said it is. The comments on the light color interior, I’m sure, are spot on. It does look good new. I am guessing the rear seat shot was for fun because I am 6’1” and I do fit with a bit of knee room. Entering the back seat though is a little difficult with the feet hitting the interior. Great review. Thanks.
Yeah… you fell for their stupid. The Golf and GTI have rear multi-link independent suspensions and still manage to have leading rear seat and cargo room in the class. So much for that bullshit.
3:25 I could not TELL YOU how many times i've smacked my knee on that. I work for a toyota dealership as a porter and I used to really dislike toyotas, especially corollas. This one was by far my favorite corolla because it felt oldschool in a such a good way. The dash actually has "some" distinction from the prior gen (which was flat and boring), the sense of style and usability of this cabin is really well suited if you are moving up from a 90's toyota or honda. Has all your essentials and nothing else you really don't need. That is subjective however, not all car buyers are the same. For me, it needs more power.
5:06 Some day there will be a fine print video on where to pac the jacking pucks so they don't destroy the rocker panel or flimsy underbody fiberboard pieces.
@@savagegeese The fine print video suggestion/request was not facetious. How do you spot the jacking points, do you need to crawl under the car and look around ? Not every car has built-in pucks #BMW #track_ready.
Amazing review thank you! I feel like Toyota missed the opportunity to make a more "Sportier" TRD version. It's kinda a waste in the Camry and Avalon. It really reminds me of the FX16 from the late 80's. Also I love the Initial D Eurobeat feature on 14:15! They need to make the Corolla back to it's sporty Trueno days!
Yeah I don't understand this at ALL!! TRD Avalon, Camry, and even RAV-4... But not the Corolla? Especially now that Ford is no longer selling the Focus and Fiesta ST in the states, it's an OPEN market! Sure there's the Civic Si and the N, but the Fords were so CHEAP!
Exactly! This car is just begging to get a factory performance version. It fits the existing character of the car so much better. I feel the same level of disappointment in Toyota as I did with Honda as they never released a Fit Si in the US. Moreover, I really doubt there will be a manual transmission in the next Corolla. Very few new car buyers are looking for a manual, and those that do are usually extremely price-conscious and not looking to bang gears at every stop light. I'm keeping a tight hold on my 5-speed Miata because I know it's fast becoming a museum piece.
It really boggles my my mind why Toyota would make a sporty version of an Avalon. A Camry maybe... but I'd rather have a hotter version of the Corolla or 86 or even Yaris before those two.
One of the big advantages of owning mannys, besides the fun factor, was the fact that they got better fuel economy and were faster than automatics. That's no longer the case. I think I'm ready to bow down to the superiority of the bots. Having said that, give Toyota credit. They've done everything humanly possible to make manuals almost as foolproof as automatics.
The CVT in this car is over 1 second slower than the manual, but is much more fuel efficient. If you drive the CVT in manual mode you’ll be faster, but lose the efficiency and the transmission may overheat prematurely.
I've had the 2019 version of this hatch since July 2019. She's got 20k miles on her. The piano black is my biggest complaint. I wipe down the seats every so often with interior cleaning wipes, and they take the Jean dye right off it. My interior still looks and feels almost completely brand new. (save for the piano black lol). Other than that, it's a FANTASTIC vehicle. Such a looker. 😍
I drove this car last year at Toyotafest demo event I was impressed by its handing and driving dynamics. I totally agree with the lack of space in rear. It’s no wonder the Civic hatchback is selling so well functional trunk matters.
Nice video!! Such a great review!. And Jack has really come along way too, and is equally as entertaining to watch and listen to as Mark is Thanks for the heads up on Speed Academy Going there now to see their modded corolla
We have a 2020 Corolla HB, the headlights SUCK. Even IIHS bags on them. My Q60 and Titan are WAYYYYYY WAYYY damn better. Otherwise, the car is amazing. Can't beat it for $20K before tax!
The review seems pretty accurate. The hatch space isn’t the best, and the shifter throws being long. I have the white interior and I’m also a mechanic at a body shop, but I don’t get it all that dirty. I just clean it often and got some cheap seat covers.
Totally agree. The back seat space is really small. After a year driving the Corolla Hatch it traded in. As well the CVT had a weird pause after a rolling stop .. so making a turn at an intersection can get scary. (not apparent if you it in sport mode).
I suppose Toyota settled for a smaller sized hatch because other markets get a more spacious wagon with a longer wheel base to go along with the hatch and sedan.
Right Lane Hog Yes that would been a keeper if they had the wagon here. The hatch space was so bad when I was switching out my winters. I was only able to put one in the hatch and fold all the back seats. Definitely not for people with small children.
@@ac0char I drive a 05 Vibe. I credit Toyota for adding so many features and performance to the new hatch but practicality has gone down the tubes compared to the Matrix/Vibe. In terms of size, this new hatch can almost be viewed as an upgraded Yaris hatch.
You can actually get the Corolla with the blue flame color (like the one being reviewed) with black interior, only the gray patch in the seats are changed to a light gray almost silver color as stated at 3:05. I know since I own the Corolla with the black interior and in the Blue Flame color. 😉
There should be a review of the manual Mazda 3 Hatch and how that compares to the manual Corolla Hatch. These two vehicles are the most direct competitors to one another, the rest of the segment are turbocharged.
I had a 6 speed MT 2019 Hatchback XSE. It was quick, fun, and looked super slick with some window tint. It was definitely love at first test drive. It was very quiet on the road. It drove very smooth. However, I grew to dislike it over the course of a year. From the easy electronic clutch, to the electronic steering box, and the seat bolstering that was perfectly making contact with and irritating both of my ulna nerves at my elbows, I was growing tired of it. Compared to my 2007 Yaris 5 speed MT, I felt very "disconnected" from the road. Hugging corners felt sort of scary, because I had zero steering wheel road feedback in the way that I'm used to, so I couldn't "feel" the traction and whether or not it was starting to slip. The clutch was very smooth and easy, but you couldn't "feel" the engagement in the pedal. I did like the iMT button, because it would rev match for me in a downshift, but it definitely became a handicap and my heel-toe practicing had suffered as a result in that car. Where am I today? I got rid of the 2019 hatchback and kept my 2007 Yaris. Partly because of money, but honestly I am happier for it. My elbows no longer hurt from the bolstering and I enjoy the overall mechanical simple feel of the Yaris. There's something to be said for simplicity. My only regret is that when my Yaris finally dies (it's at 250k mi now, and running strong), I'm worried that it may be hard to find a good used Yaris/equivalent manual transmission car to replace it that isn't too modern with electronics. I will add that the trunk in the Hatchback is laughable at best. They somehow managed to eliminate every bit of trunk space in that car... It's mind boggling really. My Yaris sedan had twice the trunk space. The rear seats are a bit tough to get into because the back doors don't open as wide as you might hope, but I believe it's the same on the non-hatchback corollas. Also, this is a personal gripe... With all of the electronic "wonders" of cars, they still haven't managed to make a manual transmission remote start. SERIOUSLY? The clutch is electronic! Sounds like another sly way to persuade customers out of manuals and into something less reliable... (looking at you CVTs). I know, I'm old school. I'd would be happy with a new car that didn't cost a small fortune with manual transmission with a radio, A/C/Heat, and roll down windows. What? I can dream can't I? Why can't they make sub-10k cars that are brand new with a 1NZ-FE and a tried and true 5 speed? These things have long since paid for the engineering costs of manufacturing and they last FOREVER. They don't care about us, only profit, that's why. *END RANT* My least favorite feature had to be this new thing Toyota does. They have cellular technology in the car that allows them to remotely view your car.... That can probably tell them ALL of the diagnostics. For example; They used to call my cell phone and rudely ask me why I hadn't taken my car in to get service when I went "over" my mileage. As if they are my parents or something. Funny thing is, that I had gotten the oil changed at Valvoline, but I shouldn't have to call *Mommy Toyota* and tell her what I'm doing with my car that I paid for. It's very unnerving. It's got like an On-Star equivalent. Who's to say they won't deny you service/repair/trade-in value if you rev the engine to high for their liking one too many times. I don't know, but it gives me a bad gut feeling. Seems like another way to potentially screw the customers if you ask me.
I have a corolla hatch 6 speed!!! I love it! Cheaper to insure to my old Lexus IS. Also gas mileage is fantastic! Everyone who has driven said it’s the best corolla in the last 30 years. It’s a great daily. Seats are comfortable and it’s just easy to live with on a daily basis. Granted I’m a tad paranoid with rock chips and keeping the car clean, maybe too much so for a econobox.
I bought the 2020 manual hatch in january. I definitely burst into laughter a few times watching this because your review is so spot on and relatable. Very lukewarm fun and small interior. Manual shifts great though, I do wish I could turn off the hill assist however.
Toyota not too long ago announced they're planning to make a hot hatch version of the corolla hatch for 2022 model year, it's gonna start around 30k tho
In my local Toyota Dealership Spares department they have a Toyota Product card about 15" by 8" standing up on the counter. The card announces the Toyota pitch is "Honour, Reliability and Respect" for you as their customer. Now for a lot of companies that might prattle that out we know it can only be total BS; but on the other hand we know for Toyota it is true. And I appreciate that. I respect engineering for reliability and I honour Toyota for achieving that with an "ordinary" appliance.
Bullshit. Toyota is just as bad as every other company. They don’t honor any promises they make. My Rav4 Hybrid is supposed to get free scheduled maintenance for 2 years/25,000 miles and that includes 10,000 mile oil changes, UNLESS you tow often, use the car to make many short trips or use the car in very cold temperatures and then it’s every 5,000 miles. I live in NYC, so most of my driving is 5 miles or less. Toyota refused to make the free oil change at 5,000 unless the dealer can somehow determine it needed a change, which is of course bullshit since the inly way is to send it out for testing. The oil changes are for PREVENTIVE maintenance. They’re not supposed to wait until the oil has failed! Toyota stuck to it after lengthy phone calls. I told the dealer service manager this and he saw the notes in the case and shook his head. He said they do this all the time. His boss told him to do the oil change, on the dealership. Toyota hasn’t been an honorable company for decades.
Please, when you review the Gazoo model, when it makes it to the states, can you make sure Jack gets a Mohawk haircut and is eating some Arby's for the opening scene!?
Getting a GR hatch if they make them as badass as they say they will. I totally get what these guys are saying tho about having a slower and more reliable car. I had a Saturn for years that I would just red line everywhere cause it was fun. Never got loose or a speeding ticket.
I got in a 2021 Corolla after having driven a 2018 for a few years, and holy hell I was weirded out. The damned thing was quieter and rode smooth. It lost the charm of the angry 4 cylinder rattle and the suspension that would turn every ride over rough pavement into a wooden coaster; however, in terms of comfort, I am much happier with the new car. Don't forget the power steering is really light and precise. No effort at all.
I have a 19 Hatch in Blue Flame. Have a CVT but I’m more than happy with the car! It’s a daily, it’s a Toyota, can’t go wrong there. 257 HP Hoy Hatch is coming!!! Toyota confirmed for 2022 Mindel year!
The overdrive year needs to produce good economy, so yeah, the gears are tall, but also, the clutch is rubbery and lacks input feel and the shifter is ridiculously long and set too far back to be comfortable. The shifts are long and not crisp. There is ZERO of that Civic/GTI shifting feel. Literally fun only for those who haven’t driven any other manual for 20 years.
Yeah, having seen one in person, if you keep the cargo low enough to not impede on visibility, it has less cargo space than the trunk in my iA sedan (also bought a manual). The rear legroom isn't great in it, but apparently not here either.
This is what I call the “economy-enthusiast” car. Fast enough for having fun but not into the same game of far more complicate or expensive hatches like a gti an st or an si. I drive a manual Ford Fiesta (not st) and as slow as it is it’s really well tuned for having some fun in the backroads, save gas and has been pretty reliable.
I'm not really a Toyota fan but I gotta give the props for the new Corolla hatch and I gotta give them props again for offering a manual on a higher trim than base model with no options.
The fake exhaust outlets are atrocious. Can we please just stop with this fad? It reminds me too much of the douchey kid in high school who cut the OEM springs in order to slam his Cavalier.
@@tinhinnh I would be more understanding if exhaust was routed to actually exit through these outlets, but the ones on this car are completely non-functional.
@@MADLITS1K Its going to look awkward as hell on a cold morning when the visible steam is pumping out of some random pipe under the car... and not its exhaust tips. But hey, that's just me. To each their own.
@@xzst The wagon with the 2.0 hybrid is practically an ideal car for me. Efficient, fast, quiet, practical and actually good looking! I’m so sad we don’t get one in North America. The Corolla Cross is a bummer in comparison.
I agree but you could get an si or veloster n for a couple grand more and have something that actually performs and not just an econobox with a body kit
@@wigletron2846 Yes. However the Corolla will be much cheaper to own. Insurance, gas, and maintenance will all be lower. It is also has a quieter ride. GR Corolla is said to be coming with turbo.
@@evac311 well its performance car vs econobox so the Corolla of course will be cheaper to operate. The Corolla gr tho will cost too much imo if just a base hatchback is 23k. 30k is a little much. That's wrx territory
My 2006 Mazdaspeed 6 was a load of fun, but something would break every few months. Excited to have a… warm hatch… that only needs an oil change every few thousand miles.