Just bought one last week. I genuinely CANT believe how well put together this thing is. Its at-least %50 quieter than the previous generation. Bose sound system is solid as well!
@@AliTawfeeq Hope you don't drive alot Hondas Cvts are terrible. Mine lasted 1.5 years and 88k miles of highway driving. It'll then cost you 5 grand for a rebuild or roughly the same for a new one. If you get a new one at a local shop vs. Honda, Honda charges the shop a 1500 dollar fee which is just turned onto you essentally forcing you to get the job done at Honda.
I think self-styled automotive "enthusiasts" sometimes underestimate the challenge of designing and producing of a vehicle that appeal to broad categories of consumers. The Civic Type R is an awesome vehicle but to build it on the same platform as a compact family sedan is a triumph of design and engineering. Likewise, the Civic Hatchback meets many of the requirements of a small SUV in terms of interior space while offering a superior driving experience. And while the option of a manual transmission won't attract many buyers, it's to Honda's credit that they continue to offer it in a compact "family" sedan.
@@jamesmedina2062 It's because that's the age group that "gets it". Kids these days will never understand the thrill and magical-ness of driving a good stickshift. I have a 2014 Civic LX, which is the cheap one with the steelies and hubcaps. I sanded the wheels and hubcaps and re-sprayed the steelies back to factory condition, and also gave the hubcaps 4 coats of clearcoat to make em last long, plus I ceramic coated them). Anyway, it's a CVT but I still love driving it in spite of the soul-less configuration. I installed a VERY fun sound system and retrofitted some HID projectors into the factory headlights, which in combination have made the car a joy to drive both in the daytime and in the night-time. What does this have to do with manual transmissions? Well, now we get to my real point. If I really wanna have fun a drive a REAL car, I hop on my 1988 Honda CRX Si. It ALWAYS turns heads no matter where I go, and it's a TON of fun to drive even though it's just got the stock D16A6 engine in it with a few bolt ons (that engine is absolutely BULLETPROOF!) I've had that little hot hatch since I was a teenager and it'll be with me till the day I die. It's a garage queen, but every time I get in it and drive it around, I get real satisfaction out of it and have a very fun time. I know this is very cliché and rose tinted glassed, but they just don't make em like they used to! Long winded post I know, but I had to get it out there. Have fun driving!
@@groundcontrol6876 Yes I know the story. I drove a 88 Integra one summer, a 90 Integra , and manual 88 Accord LXi. My problem is that I shot a magnum 357 pistol into the sky one night ignorantly without hearing protection and caused a massive damage to my left ear. This caused me to start hating the little 4-banger in the 90 Acura and my subsequent cars needed to be quiet. My tinnitus seemed and felt severe that only V8's and V6's (I-6 would have worked too) seemed good for me to drive. I owned a Buick V6 Regal GS, Two Passat VR6, a Thunderbird V8, and a Ford Contour V6. All were good to my ears except the Ford had too much road noise.At times I was conflicted in my vehicle purchase and had to make do buying a 4 cylinder but I modded them with insulation and they had turbo. My current 17 Civic is turbo and modded for noise. For me K series is essential because the noises they make are higher frequencies and can be made quieter as they are counter-balanced.
@@groundcontrol6876 I always had manuals because I was poor for a long time and the way you have fun in a 4-cylinder shitbox is with a manual because you can wring even last bit of performance out of it vs. the slushboxes of the time. The newer autos not so much. The Honda CVTs are actually not terrible, but like all CVTs, they can't deal with huge torque.
Cars like this impress me so much more than anything super expensive. IT's so much harder to make a good cheap car, but a lot of it simply comes down to how much the manufacturer cares. And Honda absolutely cares. They might not make stuff that gets the bench racers and spec fetishists pee pees hard but it's hard to go wrong with a Honda for real life usage. Glad to see them clean this up... the 10th gen had good pieces but this really ties it all together.
It would be kind of neat if Honda had a retro line of cars like they did with their motorcycles. They brought back the cub, monkey and recently the trail.
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 The economics surrounding motorcycles is vastly different to the economics surrounding passenger vehicles. Crash requirements, emissions, and longevity expectations are also way different. It's MUCH easier to introduce niche motorcycles (where the expectation is a manual transmission, minus some CVTs and the Goldwing which has a DCT on offer) than it is to introduce a niche car, the volume and profitability just isn't there.
@@squeekyclean1644 I mean I get a new car now, but had I purchased an automatic 16 years ago, I would still be driving it. Now I'm 37k down the hole, but at least I'm satisfied with the choices available. Reason why we can't keep driving it is because the SO cannot learn it (with valid reasons)
A lot of the issue is the red tape places like the US or Canada put on car manufacturers. They’re only going to produce stuff that appeals to the masses. So if manuals only account for 4% of sales, you can be sure it is not economically worthwhile for the manufacturer to produce a manual for the US or Canada, even if a manual is common in other parts of the world, which is usually the case. Honestly, the red tape must be dropped, that way a manufacturer, or an individual could more easily bring in a niche car, if they wanted!
An affordable lift back with a manual transmission…what was common in years past is rare now. Please support Honda and buy one of these if you’re in the market for an all around car.
@@supersabrosinho I have the same car, '21 CVT, on a recent road trip where I reset the whole calculator before we left, we got 36-38 almost the entire time on the interstates, one leg was over 40mpg. It was glorious! Otherwise, it's a mixed bag in town, like 30 or 31. Still not bad.
@@andrewdero6271 I got one exactly like his. Mine came out to 35,000 after shipping and tax fess. But other than that got it at msrp of 29,800 I believe.
Actually, Mazda does a better job of that now (minus reliability, although the brand was rated second to Lexus in overall reliability). Sit in a 6MT Grand Touring 3 hatch and it feels more like a Lexus inside than a compact car, and certainly more luxurious than a Civic - for the same price. Plus, the Mazda is naturally aspirated.
@@LearnAboutFlow the 3 has some advantages over the civic, but the main tradeoff is interior space, which is why a lot of people get a hatch to begin with. people buying economy cars generally care about fuel economy too, and though the civic has less power than 3, it does have better fuel economy. at the end of the day, both are great cars and solid values, but the choice largely comes down to owner priorities - you can't go wrong with either.
@@entertained... The 3 is a hatch, or in old parlance, a station wagon (yes, available in a less practical sedan). The 3 has a more primitive suspension, but I loved the way it handled the corners. I guess my issue is that a full loaded 3 hatchback is the same price as the Civic, yet is a more luxurious and loaded vehicle. But, yes, you can't go wrong with either vehicle, and once the chip shortage is sorted out there should be a lot of deals on hatchbacks (Americans HATE hatchbacks versus sedans, and I'll never get why).
The Civic doesn't even have HD radio unless you get the highest trim, not sure why they'd choose to exclude a feature that even my scion from a decade ago has off the bat with the bone stock head unit.
I have a 2017 Honda Accord EX with a manual. Had to work like hell to get that car (EX was the only trim with the factory sunroof and stick combo available) - a dealer here in Minnesota had to do a trade with the dealer to which it was being shipped - way out in Virginia.
@@kenmarshall9907 Agreed. At one time every manufacturer seemed to offer a manual transmission in their midsize/large compact offering (really have fond memories of the Mitsubishi Galant GS from the early ‘90s; Maximas from that era were really desirable too) but by 2000, things were going downhill fast. Ironically, I would’ve preferred the manual Fusion SE over my Accord (better factory sound system and feature set with the manual and I liked the Ford’s appearance and driving feel slightly better) but Ford dropped it in the US for ‘15 b/c of the low take rate. Maybe someday I’ll try to get a locate on a used Mondeo wagon with the manual and have it imported stateside just to satisfy that urge but I still love my Honda - and intend to keep a space for it in my garage until I’m gone (hopefully 40+ years down the road).
There are so many things to love about your channel. But perhaps my favorite thing is how you guys get just as excited for this Honda as you do for a Porsche. The passion is evident when you guys find something you enjoy and that is executed well. Now for my wife to leave me so I can buy this thing.
I bought my 10th gen Si as my first ever new car purchase and I feel like you just get so much value for your money when you go for a civic. I still find things I love about the car a year later, well after the honeymoon faze
Agreed. My first new car was the 2020 Civic SI and I like everything about the car. I can see myself enjoying driving it for many years to come. And it's a civic....so many years is a real possibility.
Ha I'm in the same scenario ... mine's a 2018 in blue. The torque really makes the car fun to drive on curvy mountain roads in the northeast. Never gets old. Love the car. Such a value.
My first ever new car purchase was an ''88 CRX Si. I am hoping to get a new Civic soon--just trying to decide to go with a hatchback or an Si. It'll be my 4th Honda bought new, and 5th Honda altogether. All manuals, of course--my two hard requirements are "manual" and "Honda".
@@AllenGarvinIn the past my first new car purchase was a Honda civic HF/EF hatchback 4sp manual with 70hp 1.5L and it was a fun car even though it wasn't fast.I currently own a 1993 Honda Accord LX 2.2 5spd which is also a fun car. It"s just something about the sound of Honda 4cyls mated to a manual transmission.
Damn it, I know I probably shouldn't, but I think I'm going to have to get one of these. I really miss driving manuals, and this might be one of the last, plus it looks like a fun car to drive while being incredibly practical at the same time. This is the kind of car I would hold onto for 20 years.
Love these videos. Haven't bought a car in a decade, don't plan to buy one get, not a car guy at all... But dang the video quality, the script, the real emotions you guys convey, the soft music at the exact right time, perfect sound... Always a treat to watch savagegeese.
I have known of a few non car guys become car guys after playing Gran Turismo for PlayStation back in the day. I recommend looking into Grand Turismo 7 when it's released.
@@selfimpovingprophecy5970 Forza seems to be another good alternative but it has not been around as long as Grand Turismo and it did not cause such a big impact. One of the differences was that GT featured more cars. Some of which were unknown of in the US and other countries. So GT in way made cars like the Nissan Skyline GTR a legend long before it was ever sold in the US.
im more excited about the HR-V, can't live without the magic seats now, you can put multiple bikes in the second row, or many pots of plants, or maybe 2 TVs
@@Azkeroth that's not true at all. This civic basically uses an "all-new" designed front facia, you should see next gen of all honda lineups uses a similar design language. Well, I'd bet at least the sedans and hatchbacks are gonna use the similar one, and the crossovers and minivan will use the new HR-V's, which is going to look very handsome imo.
@@Ghost-jy9hk probably 2023, hopefully we get the E-HEV AWD version of the HR-V from Japan instead of the EU one, I haven't seen any EU specs with AWD. IDK why Honda are reluctant in hybridizing their lineups at least in the North American market.
The brutal honesty and the fearless vulnerability that Mark puts forth is what makes this channel so great. That vulnerability is the touchpoint of human connection. It creates a bond between you and your viewers Mark. Thank you for your fearlessness. As a car enthusiast, I will say that some of the best car channels on RU-vid are about more than just cars.
Thank you for the honesty Mark. Because of your review of the CVT, I literally got the nerve to try and buy a new car for the first time in my life - and 3 weeks in, and its, exactly as you noted, AMAZING. I love my civic hatch, and appreciate your expert opinion in helping me make that leap.
Haven’t been a Honda fan previously but like the offerings coming out with the Civic. Like you guys said, something for everyone between normal touring all the way to Type R. About the only thing I have a hard time with is the ‘caveman forehead brow’ for a front end/hood. The rest is excellent!
It seems as you were not of age during the 90's. Those are some of the best Honda's for several reasons with one of them being having double front wishbone suspension.
I'm 60 years old. Been on my job for nearly 30 years. House is paid for. Had 20k to put down. I could have gotten just about anything I wanted. So why did I get the sport touring? I could not find a better car combined with the value the Civic offered. They came out with the almost perfect car at a perfect time. Thank you Honda and thank you Savage Geese.
I'm retired and work part time in auto repair. Hondas, toyotas and Mazdas have an inherent quality to them that much more expensive vehicles don't. Hard to describe with words.
The reason my '18 FK8 is so darn good is that the basic 10th gen platform was a winner in any trim. The '17 SI that preceded it was mind-blowing and a world class bargain. Hard to believe it was under $ 25K new. And the $ 35K paid in early 2020 for the Type R - with 13,800 miles on it is looking great now with similar cars and more mileage on them going in the $ 40's. I have very fond memories of Civics from the CVCC to CRX to the S2K etc ... you are on the mark. Pun intended. There is no car I would trade my CTR for. At any price. On another note, you have the sympathy of all your subscribers as regards the changes. Woman? Replaceable when you're ready. Kid? You can hopefully visit. Furry kid? I got nothing. That's a tough one. I am 66 and some simple things that I took for granted have changed. But I still love driving a Honda with a stick. Any Civic, not just the dream car sitting in my garage eating tires like gum drops and devouring brake pads like they were saltines. Apparently TPMS stands for Tire Protection Mighty Slim. The real point is Civics are such all around great cars that any issues are relatively minor. Glad to hear they haven't lost the plot.
@Thomas Engel If you can drive it, you're not too old. I had a 92 year old mortgage client who drove a red 'Vette. Okay, he was a former racer and racing instructor, but still....90's.
Acura Integra would be your last hope. I'm sure they would put a Dual-Clutch Transmission or a 10-Speed AT on the highest performance trim Type-S Integra. I'm waiting for that too. The base model Integra is only manual.
Over 6 months ownership of my 6MT Touring, i smile reading what other owners think… as it affirms the review and also my feelings… no it’s not my ‘97 Prelude of decades past, but it’s so way more refined and the fun factor on regular streets is definitely there. Very satisfied.
Bought a new 2018 Civic Hatchback, LX, 6 speed, exactly 4 years ago this month - for $19,200! Got 65k miles on it now - absolutely love the car! Turbo makes it peppy and fun to drive, gets 40 mpg on the highway, and tons of room in the back! I even stealth camp in it when I go to Florida - it's fantastic! 10th gen hatchback looks way better too, IMHO.
FYI the new LX hatchback is CVT only, MSRP $24,000. On the Sport model, the 6-speed manual is a no-cost option, MSRP $25,100. And neither of these has the turbo, rather the 2.0 liter base engine. The Touring model in this test has leather, Bose stereo, moon roof and sonic gray paint, MSRP $30,810.
I Spoke to the product planner and he explained that the rationale behind it is because the civic hatchback sport already comes with a manual they want there to be a large enough reason to step up to a type r. Where is the sedan body style in regular civic guise doesnt have a manual so the natural step up is the si. Apparently as well buyers of the SI any type share the same income bracket despite the large price difference. Apparently most type r buyers are doing as a stretch purchase.
I have a '20 Civic HB Sport w 6spd manual transmission. I'm 46,it's one of the best cars I've ever owned. It's a perfect "run around town, mountain trip, airport" car. Surprisingly fun, extremely reliable, good fit and finish. The only reason I'm looking for a change is because this '22 Civic promises a fantastic Type R.
With used car prices through the roof due to new car shortage, it only makes sense the MSRPs on new cars will be 'adjusted'. Otherwise the used cars would be same price as new. Great for those trading in a car..
@@bigdud88 Great, I can trade in my '21 Sport for an Si. I could not get the Si this year, been looking for an '18 or '19 but maybe will just hold off.
The failing family model Solution is to avoid having one in the first place with someone who isn't Fit for marriage. Be Freed of all your post-marital issues by getting Fit, and take a Shuttle out of the City to go exploring. Have a bottle of Brio on the beach and enjoy the ocean Breeze.
I know looks are subjective, and I know some people really liked the 10th gen styling, but I personally thought it was over styled with all of it's fake vents and sharp edges. It gave off the impression that Honda was trying too hard to try and appeal to the younger generation, and based off of the average age of people who seem to love the styling of the 10th gen, they did succeed in that. This to me is a return to form, though, and it's refreshing to see something that looks just sporty enough.
Reminds me so much of the 1st generation Mazda3 hatchback... It was such a perfect do-everything car, from the way it made you feel special, to the huge cargo space and great handling. Still love the current gen Mazda3, but they clearly went in a different direction.
I loved my ‘04, but you’re totally right, Mazda has changed in the last 20 years. I’m in the market later this summer, and the car in this video is what I’m targeting, so long as the dealer doesn’t try to gouge me. I considered going with a hybrid as the EV future looms ever nearer, but at 41, I’m not ready to give up the manual just yet.
I drive a 4Runner. It's 6 years old, comfortable, reliable, looks good and most importantly paid off. That said it gets shit mpg and I rare take if off-road unless I'm going to a winery on Sunday for my book club. If I'm being honest this Civic is exactly what I should be driving.
Brilliant as usual, guys. I bought an accord sport 2.0T back in may and your series on the civic has me seriously torn on trading in for one, particularly cause of the manual. By far my favorite vehicle I’ve owned was my 2008 Civic Si, with its 8,300 RPM rev limiter, the s2000-lite 6 speed and LSD. It was an absolute riot that made every commute fun. I know we’re firmly in the new era of turbocharging and torque at Honda, but damn, this new civic is awfully convincing at helping me accept the fact that vehicles like the 6th and 8th gen Si, as well as the s2000, are long gone. Great content. Keep up the great work!
The engines may be a carryover from the previous gen with some minor tweaking... but the interior and exterior updates make this a far better daily for the average driver compared to the previous generation. The hatchback is a godsend for anyone that wants most of the usability of a SUV without actually buying one. If you're unsure about the 1.5T, save the money and headaches and get a base or Sport model with the 2.0L
I have this car but not manual. I upgraded from the previous gen & yes it definitely feels more premium than any other Civic. One of my gripes is that I live in Canada & it’s getting cold, I feel like it takes longer for the inside to warm up due to how small the vents are on top & that they’re behind the honeycomb grill also
That dealer price markup you mentioned ... that seems so very USA to me. I'm pretty sure markups beyond manufacturer-set price aren't even legal in Germany. At least I haven't heard of any case ever. We have wait times instead, or where limited, first-come-first-serve, and discounts are so common anyway, as of course also in the USA, that a car dealer giving 0% discount on the manufacturer-set price would already be seen like a markup is in the USA.
@@DS-rx7wc how do you know? Did Honda say something publicly? I’m not ready to go full electric but anything less than a hybrid is part of the problem.
These are the same thoughts I've had as I consider this car - well done. This is the car to buy now so that in 8 years I can pass it on to my daughter as her first car. Imagine the novelty of a high schooler driving 6MT in 2029?! Being a Honda it'll be bulletproof reliable and still fun to drive.
I bought this exact car (sonic grey sport touring) in cvt because wife refuses to learn manual. Would have loved a manual but the automatic does fine and it’s still really fun to drive. Got it at msrp too unlike some people that are paying 3-4K over msrp
Owner of a 2022 Hatchback ST with the 6MT here - love this car so much. This video throwing around descriptions like "soft and plush", "moves around like a waterbed", "not gonna want to wring it out", "boaty"... Ouch. Compared to a Type R, perhaps! As you say, "you're not gonna take it to the track or carve up canyons with it", and it is more Touring than Sport - no question. And you do repeatedly say you love driving this car. But at times, it felt like you were talking about a Lincoln Town Car, LOL, and then had to walk it back a bit. The Sport Touring gives up some of that "planted feeling" under hard driving to the Si [note - I'm comparing it to the 10th gen Si that I've driven], sure, but not a HUGE amount - as you note at the end, the Si amps the handling up on the Sport Civics "a little bit without going off the deep end" (and neither is a true sports car as the Type R would be). Conversely though, I would say the ST gives up a little of the handling for comfort "without going into the shallow end". While also gaining the hatchback without going to the VERY deep end that is the Type R. Like how the leather seats are designed to be comfy for a long drive, versus the extra-bolstered Si cloth bucket seats for anchoring you in the twisties (or the Recaro seats in the Type R). Which is what makes this the perfect engaging, sporty feeling daily driver, versus a sporty (or sports) car that can be pressed into service for daily use. I do find it lacks a bit of punch in the mid-range, but at some point I'll do the CARB legal Hondata tuning that will surely arrive in the next year or so, and get back to that 210 HP area that would make this car actually something I'd want to "wring out"!
i noticed they're also bringing back a lot of classic 5-spoke designs, which is great. acura has also stepped up their wheel game - maybe some heads did roll to make that happen ha ha.
Some of the best factory wheels ever made are the 2018-21 Accord Sport turbine wheels. Easily evidenced by the fact that any accord without those wheels, looks ugly.
That ninja star wheels are supposed to depict motion even when it’s parked, which I find hilarious. I thought they did that in purpose so they can sell wheels for upgrades, which, if true, is kinda shameful.
Mark you are so right it took a divorce and child support payments and moving to a studio apartment in a crap neighborhood to force me back to a real driver's car....just hope it's still in the parking lot in the morning
Bought the sport touring hatchback 6MT and it’s really a solid car. Ride quality is really good for the price and it’s close to near luxury level. This is how a luxury civic should be and it’s super fun to drive.
Other than being educated on cars, this channel has helped me see the transition of a Go-kart boy to Premium-Brand-Gentleboy, but then back to wanting things simple. The Ballad of a Rust-Belt Honda-boy, Marcus Geese.
This, this is something crossovers wont be able to kill off from the market. Cars like these are likeable, and whats likeable sells despite its body form :)
Honda did a wonderful job with this car. All round perfection. I recently saw one on the road and it just didn't look like a civic it has great presence on the road and it doesn't blend in with traffic. Back tailights are really good looking. If i was in market for a car like this i would get this no doubt.
Guys, you seem to genuinely love this car. Three reviews and you really like it. But all the reviews were with the turbo engine. A lot of people do not want a turbo engine though. When will you have a chance to drive and REVIEW the 2.0 non-turbo engine with the manual transmission? That will be the genuine vehicle for the masses.
The 1.5T is a very good reliable engine, the only thing that I wouldn't recommend is letting it idle to warm up in the winter. Not only does it promote the oil dilution issue, it can almost never warm up by idling .
I'm one of those anti-turbo weirdos. Unless the NA version is sadly underpowered, its better throttle response would be more important to me than extra power from the turbo.
@@kleinbottled79 yes the turbo has a very slight delay, but the difference is the power never shows up for the 2.0L but it takes off good for the turbo.
This car and spec is the best bang for buck!! Hands down even over the integra simply because u have to spend 38k to get a manual in the Acura here ur spending 30k and it’s def worth every penny
I love cars like the Civic, because they're so practical and so nice, for a reasonable price. You're getting 80% the car of a top-level luxury car for 20% of the price. Diminishing returns are a real thing for cars and it gets even worse when you include resale value.
I appreciate all your videos, and aspire to many of the high end cars you’ve reviewed, but in the meantime I can relate to a civic/accord conversation more easily having purchased my 2020 Accord 2.0MT6 after that excellent review you did of it! Sounds like an even better generation for this civic!
@@crankybear1236 👍 Mine was made 11/2019, I picked it off the dealer lot 5/1/2020 as covid was first re-opening things, but it was the last one in inventory I could find.
Honda needs to be in the Automotive Hall of Fame. I got a 2020 Accord Sport 1.5 CVT and enjoyed it. I know the new Civic will never disappoint. My sister has a 2017 and would always stick with Honda
the mark up for a Civic Type R is ridiculous so was hoping for a Si hatchback. hopefully the new Integra will fill in that slot, looking forward to your review
All that's left is for Mark and Jack to test the NA 2.0 with the proper manual, which is the one I'd buy with actual money. I still don't trust the 1.5 turbo even if it is port and direct injected. I'll wait...
I adore the 3. I think I prefer the styling (outside) even, to the civic. But there is nothing about it’s steering feel or handling that can make up for its lack space relative to the civic. Those things might be *slightly* better than the 3, but everything else is so massively on the civics side I could never justify opting for it. Same goes for the Corolla, which I also think I prefer looks-wise, but feels more like a Honda Fit on the inside than a civic.
Our 18 Civic EX-T manual has been great. It was 22k 3 years ago. I think the road noise is pretty good for a Civic. Much quieter than the Accord Sport we were going to buy. We get 45-50 mpg on the highway!
Great video as usual Mark! Thanks for being candid as always. I've seen this on the road where I live in Toronto Canada and they look nice. Honda nailed it with this generation and coming from a person who drives a manual, it's nice to see that the manual isn't a total piece of crap. I personally drive a 30th Anniversary ND2 Miata RF and am loving it. I will garage the car for the winter as I have access to my Father's 2015 Mazda 3 GT Sedan. All in all as good as the Civic is I still prefer the new Mazda 3...
Folks don’t realize how good a Honda Civic is these days. The 10th gen is an amazing feat of engineering. The sedan 10th is the best look by far. Most feel the coupe and hatch are a bit funky. I appreciate the new look of the 11th gen. World class car and Honda hit it outta the park. The Si and Type R will be icing on the cake.
Is it worth considering the lower "Sport" trim with the naturally aspirated 158hp engine? Is that enough for sedate daily driving or is it just too underpowered?
Bro I just bought it and yes it's way under power and not a true manual feel on the transmission the brakes are also weak feel and plenty road noise and wind noise specially when windy and weather seal let water through on the door trims and on the hatch it goes in the spare tire section and the headlights are not good clear they're spotty black spots not a fluent clear lighting and the interior is cheaply made and the AC is laggy doesn't cool at moment and doesn't blow hi enough my old SUV ac is better blows more and cool as soon as you turn it on and less road noise wind about the same brakes on my old SUV are better feel stronger braking so big mistake on buying it plus no VTech my advice buy the Corolla hatch it's made in Japan I test drove one and hell better at everything so now what I'm doing is trading it for a Tcoma and I'm just going to fix my Lude period
Honda made a really great car with this. Really my only gripes are regarding looks - but for practicality and actual use, this car is such a bang for your buck.
Last gen the Civic Sport Hatch was $23k something and came with the 180hp turbo engine standard. This gen is $24k something and that only gets you the 2.0 motor. Now you have to jump up to the EX-L at near $27k to get what you got for $23k last year. For shame, Honda.
Great review as always! I currently have a 2020 Civic Sport Sedan with the 2.0 naturally aspirated port injected engine and a manual transmission as my daily driver, it’s been a great car for the first year of ownership. With the 10th Gen models I preferred the styling of the sedan over the hatchback, but with the 11th Gen Civics I most definitely prefer the look of the hatchback. Seems like they kept what was good about the 10th Gen and refined the car even more. Hats off to Honda, this hatchback model I expect will sell very well 👍🏻
What I like about this is that you are able to get a manual in the higher quality Touring trim level with the turbo, not an option with the 10th gen unless you got an Si. I had a 2020 Civic Sport Sedan with the MT, but it felt so weak and limp compared to my previous "15 Golf, so I sold it and made a profit. I am looking at a new car this year. I am torn between this and the GTI. I know those are weird to be the two I would consider, as they are so different, but I can't decide between what has been described as the perfect driver's car for the price, and this car, which does everything. Actual knobs and buttons in the car are a major plus for this vehicle. I am glad you enjoy yours!
@Justin C The Civic is my daily driver. I have a 667WHP 2012 Camaro SS/RS 6MT as my fun car. That’s why I wanted the bulletproof reliable 2.0 naturally aspirated port injected engine instead of the turbo direct injection engine. Same reason I went with the manual transmission like always (12 of my 14 cars have been manual). NA motor + manual gearbox is the most reliable way to buy a daily driver Civic. If it was my only car the type r would be in my garage. But my Camaro has over twice the HP and is RWD which I personally prefer for my fun cars. I bought the 2020 Civic sport 6MT new outright in Cash out the door in CA for $23k. No payments and it will last many years as a daily driver 👍🏻
People are shitting on it because "muh nostalgia," but damn this makes me hopeful for the new Integra since it's basically just an even fancier version of this.
My first car I drove to work was Gio Metro. Talk about the lowest of lows. It's from a rental company Rent-a-Wreck. My first real car was a 2001 Honda Civic EX Coupe MT, which I drove 350K ++ miles before trading it for a 2011 Si sedan. It now has 194K under its belt and still going strong. I am on the fence if I should trade it for Type R or Integra Type S (which is not yet available if it's ever going to be). The question for myself is, do I really need a new car just to keep up with the technology and comfort? Just like you've said, Civic is the car you buy if you want to keep it for a long time.
@@jamesmedina2062 I find my Si fun to drive, hence I am on the fence. The other reason I bought Si is for merging to highways. 10 years ago, all other cars have hp between 120+ and 140, now they’re creeping at 180 and has more torque than my Si. I am not trying to justify the need to get a new one, but my Si is not above the rest now.
@@cruishall How is it from say 60-90 mph?? I drove a 2007 SI with cold air intake and maybe a tune and it was a little beast!! I loved it. These cars don't really match up to a Porsche or Camaro and the gearing on new Civics is not that great for anything above 80mph. As I said, if you want a hi ceiling the Type R is only option because its middle of the pack but compared to most cars it is a rocket with wheels.
@@jamesmedina2062 I am not even thinking of matching any mid to high-end cars. I just want to be a little bit ahead of common cars. I might consider installing CAI in the future.
@@cruishall there's always going to be a faster car. High revving NA motors are becoming a thing of the past. And your SI does it reliably. Just drive your car into the ground. If its not giving you problems, I'd hold onto it.
I have the 2.0 cvt sport. This is such a good car. It feels so well put together and solid. The interior is better than my 2016 3 series. The buttons, displays, everything feels really thought out. I also have a 21 corolla nightshade. The civic fits me better and the corolla is a bit small. The civic feels better built too. Its just a better car. However the cvt and power wise the corolla is better and quicker. I rent these cars so theyre not for me. If I were to have one for me I would go for the touring 1.5 manual. The sport has less sound dampening and is a bit loud on the road noise. Also the 2.0 with cvt is totally gutless.
Hey SavageGeese. Huge fan of your videos! I wanted your input. I’ve had a Mazda 3 hatchback 2014 for a few years and now with my first job as a nurse I’m making significantly more money than I did working retail (of course lol). I’ve been wanting a Miata for so long however the reason why I didn’t get one is because I have siblings to pick up which makes the Miata impractical. That being said I’ve been wanting one for so long but in case I end up not going for it would you say this is a better all around car to go with? Appreciate you and awesome video!
I got the 6 speed sport model (turbocharged 1.5L) and I absolutely love it. never driven a manual before and it was sooo easy to drive. couldn't be happier.
I'm looking forward to a review comparing the 2.0L NA engine to the 1.5 Turbo, both with manual transmissions. As nice as torque is, 150 hp isn't bad and I believe that engine is more reliable long term.
Good comment, me as well. I'm wondering if the rev hang goes away with that NA motor. Drove a last generation Si and couldn't stand it due to that hang.
Yes, if 30k felt a bit heavy for someone, the 2.0 would be a more sensible choice, otherwise why not just wait for the new integra? It's everything of this car and better.
I track my stock 10th Gen K20C2 6MT, except for RPF1 rims and EBC brakes. I'm considered one of the faster cars at the Toronto TMP track. 1.5T engine is faster when tuned but I prefer the none-turbo K20C engine, that'll handle constant track use with no issues...The base model is over-engineered cause it shares components meant for turbo-powered Civics. Still, full vtec kick-in at 5800rpm and surprisingly good mid-range makes for an old-school experience in the NA Civic.