The Diesels come with a 3.73 rear end gear and 18.3 gallon fuel tank.... Hands down best motor jeep could have put in the wrangler. I installed the Pedal commander and it woke this engine up like a fine tune. 28 mpg on the highway - Everything we wanted in a jeep...
For me, the appeal behind the diesel is I want to run larger tires. Currently on my 07 JKU, I'm getting a combined 13 mpg on 35 inch tires. I have every intention of purchasing a Gladiator Diesel when they become available and I would like to run something in the range of 37 to 40 inch tires. The extra torque and fuel efficiency will definitely be noticeable and a much welcome change from what I have now. Midlife crisis is in full swing here, don't judge.
When TFL truck did their 66mile highway loop at 70mph they got 31.5mpg from a stock diesel wrangler. With 40's you'll probably get 20mpg if you regear the axles.
I have a ram eco diesel that I run on 35s... I get 17mpg highway. It's not gutless but it's nothing like my Cummins were. If you want better power/ fuel economy you're going to have to regear it. Im sure it has more power then that garbage gas motor they have in them now but.. if you run bigger tires expect mpg and power to drastically drop(my buddy had same year stock ram and was getting over 10mpg more) I really wanted a jeep gladiator diesel but now... I don't think so. You should also take into consideration like the tdi diesel motors that eco diesel takes a specific type of motor oil not just 5w-40 full synthetic. These eco diesel motors had a ton of motors that had the bottom end let go, they found out later it was because of their specified oil. They later changed it. I had mine in at a dealership because at 6k miles it went into limp mode and wouldn't go over 5mph. They told me (this being small Sheridan Wyoming) they were currently replacing a motor and it was the 3rd or 4th that they had replaced that year and it was June. With a new "revamped" ecodiesel I'd be highly cautious with buying a first year or even within the first couple years. The first eco diesel was absolutely trash. Oh I should also mention the transmission.. my truck running that 8 speed with 35s... at 70mph it won't go into the highest gear it jumps around 6,7,8. It constantly is changing gears messing with the fuel economy, and no that's on flat farm land, going up hills I understand but just flat highway, cruise set it is constantly changing gears. My guess is the motor is slightly revamped mainly because jeep has that 30?" Water fording and they had to relocate a bunch of stuff to make the ecodiesel work to keep that number. That's the honest truth about the ecodiesel I hope this helps, trust me I love dodge and jeep I wanted that ecodiesel to be something special and it let me down. I know this is long but what he said was right but there's a lot more to these motors then finally a better motor for a jeep.
@@erikkovacs3097 17mpg on 35s out of my ram. My buddy was getting 35mpg highway speeds out of his ecodiesel. Regearing you'll be lucky to get 20, very lucky on 40s.
Exactly. I wish I'd have gotten a 2020 diesel, but I wanted a Rubicon and that was just out of my budget for the both together. I did however, manage to get a Rubi with about 55k on the sticker for 48k out the door with all fees, taxes.
This guy is totally awesome - straight forward and no bullshit. I especially appreciate this as I am currently in the market for a new Rubicon diesel...
Never seen a review like this before and I loved it. I do all the maintenance on my cars but I never have owned a diesel before. This video definitely gave me the heads up of what I just got into. Thank you soo much for your original review.
This is by far the best real review of the JL 3.0 Ecodiesel on RU-vid. Thank you! I just subscribed and am looking forward to your future videos. This is how ALL reviews should look like.
My 2015 Ram EcoDiesel is fully capable of getting north of 30 miles per gallon on the highway. And that's doing 65. If I slow it down a bit, I can get 34 to 36 mpg on flat ground. I've I've tested this multiple times, so NEEDLESS TO SAY, I'm impressed with the 3.0.
@@abbyalarid6877 Stop bullshitting people..I test these for a living....at constant 65 mph best will be 25/26 mpg......the only way to get 30 mpg is to drive it down a mine shaft.....
I'm not sure why people are calling BS on mpg. I've had my JL Willys Ecodiesel for 6 months now, 7600 miles later, and it's been a joy to drive. I get 28-29mpg average on long drives on the highway, and about 23-24 in the city. That's about +8-9 mpg over my old 2 door JK. Tank sizes are about the same, but my diesel easily goes another 120 miles compared to my old JK. Simple math shows 4 full tanks on the JK is about 50 miles short of what the Diesel goes in 3 full tanks. I do agree that the savings on fuel are almost completely offset by the DEF refillls, fuel filter changes every two years, and the eventual oil change costs (I get the first 2yrs free). This thing does drink DEF, I'm getting about 4250 or so miles per full tank of DEF. I've only fully refilled once and it cost me $40, though some forums say you can get it even cheaper at truck stops. As some comments have stated, modern diesels love to go long distances at highway speeds, it'll keep the engine and emissions system happy. Maintenance will always be a thing for any vehicle, gas or diesel. But similar to owning a complex German V8 or a Japanese turbo 4, buy what you can afford, and what you can afford to fix.
Upon a further search, you can find the MOPAR fuel filter for this engine for $50-60 online. Synthetic oil options are available at $50 range. The DIY cost is at about $110. Keep in mind this is every 9000-10000 miles. My old JK needed an oil change every 4000-4500 or so miles, and I payed $55 for synthetic oil and the filter. This find definitely puts you ahead in yearly cost related savings!
Last thought, many people crap on the upcharge of the diesel engine. Most Wranglers sold are auto anyway, and it's my understanding the 8-speed on the diesel is superior. So it's really a $4k upcharge in fair comparison in gas vs. diesel. Within those $4k, you're getting 3.73 gears over the standard (all diesel wranglers bring 3.73), and you're also getting a rear AND front dana 44 axle instead of just the rear which is standard on non-diesels. You got to acknowledge those improvements over gas when talking about spending $4k more.
Tell us more! What trim, Sahara? I'm ordering mine soon and am seriously considering the diesel. Have you had trouble with gas stations not having diesel? Guess it depends where you're located.
@@bobbyyoung7836 sadly, no. I moved to a neighborhood with a strict HOA and seeing that I'm the one who parks in the driveway, was not able to move forward with my Jeep:(
I have a 2021 Rubi with the diesel and love it. I have had 6 different wranglers over 28 years and this one is far superior including my 2k08 JK Rubi with every option.
I love the negative comments about the ecodiesel being junk when they've never owned one. My 2015 Ram 1500 got 80k miles 60k in the last 2 years no issues, only maintenance and annoying recalls. I work at CDJR store 2 other co workers have around the same mileage on theirs and it the same for them. Do not buy the diesel if you do not have a a 20+ mile one way commute or it will be a headache and do your research on how a modern diesel functions.
The one in the 1500 which is the same as this one in the Wrangler is an Italian VM Motori engine. VM Motori is FIATs commercial diesel engine manufacturer. These engines have been used in many commercial vehicles in Europe and have been proven engines. Personally, I'm a Cummins guy. Always been a fan of the ISB engines.
@@juanzingarello4005 You are correct it is the same vm motori. Yes they are reliable if used properly with any modern diesel, I'm at 95k now still nothing even on the original pads and rotors. You can't go wrong with a Cummins much better on the commercial side of things compared to a ford or chevy. But you still can't treat it as a grocery getter only, there complex also nowadays. But much better with passive regens.
@@whatchis1120 Fords Power Stroke is a co-developed engine with Navistar. Thats why their engines aren’t great. Navistars popular MaxxForce engines which is the basis of the Power Stroke were notoriously unreliable and unrefined in their operation. They sucked so bad that Navistar themselves started ditching them in favor of ISLs. When it comes to diesels, the best in the business are Cummins and Detroit Diesels. Volvos D13 get an honorable mention though they do have some issues with their regen systems.
can you elaborate on the 20+ mile commute comment, or have a link to videos that discuss that more in depth? if i commute 26 miles one way to work but do less than 20 mile commutes to say the grocery store, gym, etc how does that affect the motor?
@@FrankPapadakis It can do long term harm to the engine if it doesn’t see normal operating temps 200 degrees frequently. It all how the emissions equipment works it’s annoying to say the least. But definitely research how the scr system functions. I do minor errands with mine I just take the long route to get the temps up. If it never sees highway during the week, take it out for 20-30 min on the highway or high mph backroad. The harm is low mpg and clogged dpf which causes too much back pressure on the piston rigs and causes blow by. It’s a lot to deal with so dig into the google, and drive it’s balls off especially. Good engine just needs to be used properly.
I have one of these... I love my EcoDiesel and pick up/torque is awesome. My auto stop doesn't work all the time, the dealer says I need to run it longer to recharge. I got 5 free oil changes through Jeep and the dealer. The diesel makes it way more fuel efficient... I have zero complaints so far.
My 2020 ecodeisel’s stsrt stop out of no where stopped working. Soon after ( months later) after the battery 🪫 died so I installed a new vehicle battery. This fixed the problem & my automatic start stop began working again. My guess is that this is a type of safety. Idk but your cars battery might need to be changed soon Or just disconnect your battery and reconnect & see if that re sets the auto start/stop some how. Florida Jeep 44,000 miles away. I change oil every 3500 miles . Better sooner than later
The diesel in the wrangler is good, gladiator is where it shines. Dealer sold the diesel gladiator earlier in the morning when I went to test drive. But they did have a shop guy who just traded in a diesel wrangler so I tried that and now I’ve got 8500 miles on my ‘22 diesel gladiator. Buying new, Jeep wave covers first 3 oil changes, I asked if it included diesel, they said yes. So that should get us to 1/3 of break in….assuming that this one holds to the rule of thumb, 100k miles is where diesel shines
Being an owner of 5 different generations of Wranglers I can with 110% confidence tell you that YES, our 2021 EcoDiesel Wrangler is worth it. Actually, I'd go as far as stating that this is the first Wrangler we have owned that is actually worth owning.
Wow, I'm very happy I was served up this video on the RU-vid algorithm, probably deep in the wrangler videos by now, but this has been super informative on the ecoDiesel on the wrangler. Seems like an option I don't actually need. Thanks RBM!
Amen on that. This ecodiesel has a history of problems. This is the gen3 version though, and they say they addressed those problems, but its basically the same engine. Not sure the Italians have the expertise that Cummins has with diesels. Now that Jeep is FCA, it stands to reason they would go cheap on the diesel made in their country. And beyond all this, I think the diesel engine is doomed, all diesels. They just pollute too much for a lot of people (government types). I know California wants to ban them and as goes California, so go a lot of other states. Then pretty soon the federal government jumps in.
An Italian Diesel, Whewww. I remember a couple of years back when this motor was a nightmare on the Rams, and they kept blaming the customer for putting bad Diesel Fuel in it.
You hit it on the head ! Fiat ruined the Rams and now they got their hands on Jeeps! Fiat is known for the lack of quality , that’s why they left the States in the 70’s. Fix It Again Tony (FIAT)
We've had diesel Jeeps in the UK for years. Mine is a 2011 Wrangler Sahara that I've had from new. Excellent car that gets me anywhere I need to go and has been 100% reliable. Never really understood why they weren't available in the US. Mine is the 2.8 litre my lad has 2010 Grand Cherokee with the 3.0 litre V6 diesel.
BMW charges $250 for my diesel oil change, I do it myself for $45. Its the easiest oil change because the filter is on top, and you can use an oil extractor to suck out the oil from the dipstick tube.
$92 for a cartridge filter is because only FCA makes that particular size right now. Once everyone starts making them they will drop to $6. Still a rip off on FCA's part.
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92 bucks...CArTRIDGE DAMN lmao I thought VWs had it rough with the costs.
@ ...my VW had easy to find and semi-affordable parts. The tricky part was trying to be smarter than the German engineers who designed and packaged the car. Some stuff is not easy to get to and requires removing 20 parts to get to the one you are after. But still easy enough to be a DIYer; plenty of trick parts/gadgets out there to help you...
The thing that you forget when you buy a new vehicle is that the service is free for so many miles or months depending on the dealer, my service in my 2020 Rubicon free plus tire rotation is free as well
What a lot of people don't know every brand new Wrangler owner gets their first 4 oil changes and tire rotations free with the Jeep Wave Program. ( something only Jeep enthusiasts know about) So now let's talk about the cost of those expensive oil changes, $ to $ in the wash still ahead go ahead and stick with your underpowered low torque gas guzzlers
I have a 2014 Ram Ecodiesel. The 3.0 diesel is nice. Yes oil changes and fuel filters suck. And rotilla T6 is expensive. But the secret for the do it yourself guy. Wix oil and fuel filters. K&N filters for air. And don't do what they recommended in service manual. Oil filter and oil one change then next do oil plus all of the others. Do oil and air filter one change. Then oil and fuel others. Makes oil changes around $110. And find DEF at the pump. Avoid DEF out of the 2.5 gallon jugs at $20 per jug. When you can fill it up for $17. Just some advice from a personal owner of an Ecodiesel for 72k miles. And he is right about DEF life. Find it at a truck stop or a high use station. Same for the Diesel fuel itself.
@@AIDAHAR210 hmmmm... might have to put that into consideration then... the EGR and DEF is the only reason I havent wanted to get a diesel below a commercial-grade vehicle.
*Hint* I use " Motor-Power" DPF filter purge ( made in Germany) Perfect for " Mall Crawlers" who do alot of around town driving. It coats the the Soot on the DPF and allows it to burn off at a Lower Temperature. ( Available on Amazon for $14.99 + $ 5.00 shipping, even with Prime)
Awesome Video! Very informative. I would love to see you do a vehicle review on the F-150 diesel. I’m curious to see what you think of those or if you would be better off sticking with the 3.5 ecoboost.
Very nice overview. I like the diesel but there were allot of surprises. It's reminded me of 70s era cars during oil fuel crisis... tons of emission and vacuum hoses everywhere. It's always those little vacuum leaks that drive me nuts trying to diagnose. I don't think all wranglers come with aux switches though unless you order tow package.
The recommended oil change interval is 15,000 miles. I have a 2022 Diesel Gladiator and 15,000 miles makes me feel weird but the cost per mile is the same as any other car.
Seeing this, I am reassured that the 3.6l was the right choice in my Wrangler. 40k miles now, not a peep of issues. With gearing, it spins the tires no issues.
Excellent review. I had wanted one early on. Glad I didn't. Great idea. Too much government intervention. Already have had computer/ sensor issues on my 3.6. Can't imagine the extra nightmares that come with this. I ask buddy at the dealership and he said he couldn't recommend the diesel based on early problems. Thanks
You can get a “Tazer” that will permanently disable stop start and enable tons fo cool features. I’ll be ordering my diesel gladiator sport next week and I can not wait. The reason for the diesel is simple to me. I love passing torque and I’ll be driving straight from the dealership to my garage where I’ll have a 5” RockKrawler brand suspension system waiting for it, one ton axles with 4.88s and ARB lockers inside and 40” tires. I’ll also be pulling a 5000lb off road trailer with it and there is no way I can make that happen with the V6, a supercharger would be more costly and eliminate the warranty and a hemi swap would cost far more than all the other mods I intend to do.
...not all of us have $8k to dump in a brand new vehicle that hasn't been bought yet. The diesel Wrangler is for those that are already familiar w/diesel and own other diesel cars/trucks; have long commutes, but don't want a Prius or Tesla; have heavy loads tow but still want to get off the beaten path. Otherwise, not every one wants to deal with the stinky, oily fuel plus the other upkeep/mx that goes with it. Example, my wife would hate the diesel from just the fueling perspective despite all the other benefits.
K03sport I didn’t suggest anyone else buy it. As far as bought I ordered it for 9.5% below invoice since I sent so many referrals to the dealership so I’ll have about $1k less than MSRP invested total
Excellent review, good job, viewed it twice, help me to decide not get into a diesel. Look forward for a review on a 2001 VVT, V6 e-torque, Jeep Willy,
I have Caynne diesel, both fuel filter and oil filter are $15 bucks. Roughly about $100 bucks in parts to do oil and fuel filter. And takes about $30 minutes to do since all access is from the top
Ive always thought of the Wrangler as the two door descendent of the CJ's, now everything Im seeing has 4 doors. Also historically speaking, jeep was always a rugged bare bones 4X4 utility type vehicle and they should really offer something like that again. A good ole CJ-7 with a 30MPG diesel engine would be really appreciated right now, especially; considering where gas prices are headed for the next 8 years.
I think the first gen wranglers (YJ code) were the closest to the CJs. Wranglers had fully boxed frame, unlike the CJ that had U channel frame that weren't nearly as strong as wranglers. YJ also had leaf springs (wider leafs than CJs had too). And the High Output (HO) 4.0 that came out in the 90s. bought my 89 YJ new for $8999+$800 dealer installed AC, wasn't a factory option +$250 folding rear bench seat. It was a 2.5 4cyl with 4.11 ring gears and a i think 2.5:1 tcase and manual 5spd with a very low 1st gear. It did awesome on trails, super light with simple all terrain tires which i think 205-75R15 tires on 15x5.5" stamped steel. i upgraded those to 235-75R15 2nd gen wranglers (TJ) introduced coil suspension the but retained 4.0 inline six as an option. I had a fully loaded 2004TJ Rubicon new for about $30k i think. Prices are crazy now, but they keep getting better and better forv trails. Today they are way more capable trail rigs than CJ but sooo expensive now (base entry wrangler 2dr, after delivery fees is $32k). Some people won't want take them on challenging trails for fear of scratching them. LOL
Nice video. I've been wanting a diesel jeep for a long time and waited for the gladiator to have the option. After seeing this I'm going to pass. I'll look for an old grand cherokee and drop the 2.8 cummins in it.
Excellent overview & reality check on cost of running a "smog" diesel for return on the dollars invested. I would guess 90K - 100K miles to break even. I had a 6.4 Liter Hemi in mine and the cost was about 62K with everything I did bumper to bumper. I did everything but the engine swap and it had a lot more power than the Eco Diesel. Mileage though was 13 - 14 city / 16 highway.
I'm at 9 years of mine, with 210k miles, average of 24.7 mpg. Yes you get higher top speed, but for off reading, the low end torque is hands down better than gas guzzler
Have a 14 JGC diesel and 15 JKU Sahara 3.6. My 3.0L diesel at 95K miles has never had a problem outside the FCA recall for larger SCR, plugged EGR and AEM retuning. Yes I get 27-28 mpg and hiway if I am not ripping it 29-30 in town 24-25. My Wrangler does 18-22 at best so next Sept I will be getting the Wrangler Sahara Diesel and I do expect to hit 29 mpg on the interstate. I will get the MaxCare on this Wrangler because no doubt FCA will have some teething issues even after a year being out there. This isn't a new VM engine by the way. It has been in Europe for over 10 years but they don't have the EPA crap hanging on it. I will have the advanced option package as I use the adaptive cruise control all the time and cross path and blind spot protection are useful. Thanks for the review.
I like your comment. Going to get a gladiator sport plus towing package. Ordering the lowest trim I can get with adaptive cruise control. I will never own a car without it.
@@thereissomecoolstuff It does NOT protect from front collisions, and it forces your vehicle back from the front vehicle too far allowing others to cut in front of you in that space, pushing you back to the end of the line. They are unreliable. Anyone who can't use standard cruise should not be driving.
I'm still going to keep my original Sahara with the 4.0. Original Sahara? Think Jurassic Park. They built that from a 92' Sahara. It has factory low gloss paint.
@@TheBandit7613 How about typing while high on FACTS? 4.0 is a dog....15/17 mpg compared to the newer V-6 at 18/22. 0-60 time so slow you could run quicker, which is what you would expect from an engine designed for a 1960's Rambler and 1970's AMC Gremlin. Top speed in a 4.0 Rubicon with 3 speed automatic is 85 mpg, and at that speed the first crosswind will flip you over. People who brag about getting 150K miles on the 4.0, big deal---the newer V-6 can do that easy as proven in the Dodge cars. I laugh when 4.0 owners bitch about the new Jeep Wrangler quality control by FIAT--the older 4.0 Jeeps were no better--in fact worse. Newer Wranglers with V-6 are better than the older ones--period. It is going to take more than low gloss paint to be better than a 2021 V-6 Wrangler. The diesel not so much.
Diesel gladiators are pretty cheap right now and I was on the fence. If it wasn’t for the complexity of the tier four engine it would be an easy pick. I think I’ll keep my jkur’s and keep using the trailer. Thanks for the reviews on the jeeps.
You would have to own it for 10 plus years to get the advantage of greater gas mileage paid off, but you also have more expensive regular maintenance of diesel to deal with too. Is the torque advantage worth it compared to the I4 gas turbo, I don't know?
I’m considering getting rid of my 14 JKU with the 3.6 for a new diesel because hills kill me towing my 1500 lb boat and mpg sucks. Not sure if wrangler or gladiator is the way to go with the diesel
Agree. Had a 2014 JKU with 15K in mods. Ultimately I couldn't stand the power train. Drove the 3.0L and loved it. Dealers wouldn't budge on price at 65K for a Rubicon and again I would need another 15K for my new build. That would put me at 80 GRANDE for a tuna can. I took a new Ram home that day with a 5.7L, 8 speed trans and 12" infotainment. Also, heated, and cooled seats all sorts of additional features for 48K. Jeep Wranglers are just too expensive. I miss my Rubi, but bang for my buck was the Ram all day. Great review BTW.
I purchased a 21 Rubicon with a 3.6 V6 (simply proven and reliable). I had many diesel trucks in the past and love Diesel. I would not mess with this diesel wrangler. Now one thing if they put a Cummins in it like a 4BT then I would buy it ...
First of all all Wranglers equipped with the EcoDiesel come standard with 373 gears even the Ruby not the 345 slique quoted standard Dana 44s front and back standard an upgraded 8-speed automatic transmission not the same found on the 3.6. The only model that has locking diff is the Ruby you stated locking diff on the Sahara that is not accurate. Overall very informative thank you so much not being a Wrangler Enthusiast I didn't expect you to know. Also the EcoDiesel does come in a sport that's what I currently own and it is more affordable it starts off at 43000 you could go right to 35 so 37th without regearing and still getting 23 miles per gallon combined. As you've already seen with great pick up and go couldn't be happier with the power. Climbing Hills grades going into a headwind with my 35 doesn't phase this EcoDiesel Beast. Itself pays for every penny of the extra maintenance costs I know I will be forced to pay but I'll gladly do so for my every daily enjoyment everything the Wranglers lacked is EcoDiesel shines.
All the EGR stuff is a big negative, thanks for the show, these double in price ones they arrive to my neck of the woods ( Iceland iceland 🇮🇸 ) so i will never buy one haha, i love to buy a older one and tdi convert, that will be a fun project one day !
We’ll if they are like the 20 freighliner I drive there’s always something wrong,egr,sensors going out I think I’ll pass on the diesel,not. To mention having to keep the def in it also!!
The maintenance on these is outrageous compared to the ICE 3.6 pentastar. $220.00 for 9 quarts of oil and a oil filter, and that is not even the labor charges. I would suspect $300 to $400 from start to finish. A hard pass for me.
It's coming! 3.6 Factory Turbo will be the ultimate Wrangler. Jeep would put the Hemi under the hood but they can't get it to pass the crash test but they will put the turbo on the six and it could be put into production. I believe they will release it not long after they finally start rolling the Bronco off the factory line.
This is absolutely mind boggling.$91 for a oil filter dang near $70 for fuel filters. My f250 6.7 powerstroke oil filter......$17. Fuel filter(s).....$50. Wonder if it’s really hard on oil to need 9qts when the duramax takes 12qts and my powerstroke take 13qts..
Brian Austin you can get the oil filter for $38 if you look online and the aftermarket is currently finalizing at least two other options. Fuel filter is about $42 also
I bet the oil filter you found is for the GEN2 ecodiesel, the GEN3 oil filter comes with the composite cover. Price is way to high but right now your only source is Mopar.
I see Rotella T6 5w40 full synthetic Diesel engine oil online for $60/9qt. That Mopar oil filter is $60 online. Still a lot for an oil change, but not over $200. What is the interval for that engine?
I just got a LT1 dropped into my jk with a 8speed I don’t get 28mpg but it’s better then the stock motor But ok 40s 1 tons and lift it still moves like hell
I don’t know man, you can buy a nice 4x4 Cummins for the same price with double the torque. Buttttt it would be awesome to have a Jeep with a diesel! It would be a beast off-road. I’ve seen some reasonable ones from $35K to $42K of course not being a Rubicon.
There is only one thing that annoys me about the EcoDiesel. You can't pair it with the manual. But then I feel like I am asking for too much so I will just be happy the diesel finally made its way into the Wrangler after years of waiting.
Hey there! Great information! I am currently getting my Jeep Ecodiesel soon, and with the Jeep Wave program you gets 4 oil changes with tire rotation free! Just thought I’d pass that on. I had it on my old ‘18 Rubicon. The dealership I bought mine at also offers a lifetime warranty at no additional charge! ( I figured I’d go out of my way to buy one from this particular dealership because of the ED). Anyway, thank you for this!
Well I have plenty of headroom and legroom in my 2020 Rubicon 2 dr and I am 6 ft 1 and it is comfortable for me plus I do a lot off roading as well and long drives I have the v6 no problem whatever
