2020 Porsche Cayman GTS 4.0 | What You Need To Know 

Thanks Roger... though nothing compared to your productions and massive Porsche fan base.

Hahaha, when I knew I was seeing a racing yellow car, it reminded me of a tie I haven’t worn for around 10 years!!

That would be awesome, however this is a hobby channel with a low subscriber base compared to the big boys. So getting people to take me seriously is a bit of an issue with regards to booking tracks and getting cars. I don’t mention it in the videos, but if more people started hitting the like button on my videos, the RU-vid algorithm would push more videos to a bigger audience and then my subscriber base could possibly grow. You need a minimum of 10k subs to be taken seriously, better still on 50k. This being a niche Cayman channel, I can’t see that happening any time soon ;-)

I think you will find the biggest differences are in the feel and lateral G limits. The GT4 has more hard mount chassis points and wider/stickier tires. I say for a performance enthusiast, going to the track or not, the GT4 is the better choice. If you are just wanting to go out and cruise, then the GTS is the better choice.

TRZ0612 Yeah fair points. Given the UK climate and the fact we’re in Autumn now, we’re soon at the point when Cup 2’s on a GT4 start becoming dangerous. Coupled with some badly maintained roads across the UK, it really takes the pleasure out of having a GT4. I do believe the GT4 looks better and handles better, however I was trying to address the on-road characteristics here. Maybe if I lived in sunny California it would definitely be a GT4 for me ;-)

@@TRZ0612 wider more grippy tyres don’t make for a more enjoyable drive, lap times aren’t everything. I think the 718 GT4 is effectively redundant with the GT4 RS and GTS 4.0 in the range, wouldn’t be surprised if it’s discontinued after a short PDK production run. For context I have owned a 981 cayman, currently own a 718 GTS 4.0 cayman and have a January 2020 build paint to sample 718 Spyder on order with summer tyre option as I live in the north of Scotland.

Mr jmr fair point for some. I fall into the performance category though and do use all lateral grip. I’m in California, so it makes more sense here. Even if not tracking , pulling 1.2g on on/off ramps are quite fun.

Great insight, thank-you!!

Congratulations on your order! The carbon seats are super comfy in the GTS 4.0. I’m call them supportive rather than firm/harsh. Don’t forget the suspension is softer in the 4.0 GTS than in a GT4. If I were to talk about the 718 GT4, I’d say 75% of the firmness comes from the suspension, 25% comes from the carbon seats and what they transmit into your body. The suspension in a GTS 4.0 is roughly speaking half as firm as a GT4. Great balance. I’m a bit old school with my 987.2, so personally I’d like a stiffer steering wheel and stiffer clutch pedal on the 4.0 GTS, but heck it’s still a great car.

Hi Clive, what happened to the gin o’clock thumbnail, I’m sure that was you before?! Yes the bucket seats need to be specified and aren’t cheap on the GTS. If you’re coming from the 987 the steering is very light, especially at low speeds, e.g. car park turning. However as the 718 GT4 is pretty soft too, I didn’t make a big deal of it in this video. Compared to the 1st gen Caymans, the clutch and steering are soft. No getting away from that.

MAX REVS hi Max, yes I did have the gin o’clock thumbnail, you’re very observant, but thought it was about time I changed it for the Boxster as I spend a lot of my time on here watching Porsche related content. Thanks for the feedback on the steering (no pun intended!), I guess I have to feel it for myself really.

Yeah I reckon the build slots are pretty hard to come buy, especially if you have no new Porsche buying history.

Me personally, a PDK 718 GTS 4.0 would be too much of a detached driving experience. Given the softer ride compared to a GT4, I think this car comes alive on roads in manual guise. You have auto-blip to rev match on downshift, and the fabulous shift is a great way to connect with the car. Not mentioned in the video, is that the clutch is so soft compared to that in my 987.2. It’s not at all tiresome driving this car in manual, even in a bit of stop / start traffic. However as mentioned in this video, there is no generic right answer for everyone. Each to their own. Every Cayman is a great car!

Thanks, I must be doing something right if this is the second time you’re saying my videos are getting better. Lockdown has restricted my movements for obvious reasons, and the weather will soon turn bad in the UK, so there may not be a lot going on in this channel over the next few months. Let’s see what’s in store...

Or buy a 981 GTS and a Patek

MAX REVS suggest you do more guest interview over the next few months until weather gets better. The interview guest worked well during the lock down

Getting the guests is the issue... What this channel needs to get big is for more viewers to hit the like button. However as I’m not focused on the channel numbers, I don’t push that message in my videos. If this video got 200-300 likes it would get loads more hits as the RU-vid algorithm pushes those videos with more likes.

MAX REVS what I love about your channel is that you do not push the subscribe and like message and the small passionate community you have developed. Keep it that way!!. However I thought getting guest would be easy, in fact maybe even approaching you to be on it. Shows how much I know. Anyway look forward to your next video what ever that may be

You could have got a GT4😜!! But what did you go for instead??

MAX REVS 2020 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 baby , yes sir !

Hi Rob, are you wishing you were back in a Cayman, or still happy with the GT3? I’m not in a position to drop money on a new Cayman. Maybe when I get 100k subscribers... and this channel starts paying me ;-) For now I’m just happy meeting Porsche owners and making videos.

@@MAXREVS I'm glad I have the GT3, but you are absolutely correct in what you said, a GTS is just as good as a GT4, its the proper sweetspot for all the fun you can hope for, anything else is ok but not necessary, like Guru said as well, it all depends on the level of your crisis . Lol

Sorry about the music noise... I'm trying to get a few more subscribers to the channel so I can be taken a bit more seriously with companies etc... the music was an attempt to get down with the kids. I need to appreciate I'm 45 and most people on this channel are middle aged men ;-)

Thankfully I’m not in the market to purchase a 718 GTS or GT4... it would surely be a super tough call. The GTS is the better everyday Cayman, the GT4 would make me feel a bit more special...

The GT4 is a more special car for sure, and I hope to feature a GT4 soon!

Next time you're in California you can review mine! Still working through the break in, though. Gotta hurry it up so I can get some track time at the local Porsche Experience Center during their current customer cars on track event.

FYI. The owner didn’t want to say much on camera. We had our own off camera conversations... and according to his wishes we kept him off camera.

The owner very kindly has been in touch on my caymangrs4.0 Instagram page. A gentleman. Can appreciate his desire to stay off camera - not for everyone. I got my gts4.0 in August - over the moon, although O spend more time cleaning it than I do driving it 🤣

@@CamGTS Thanks for that information. I didn't ask to see his face. I asked to hear his undoubtedly highly qualified opinion on his new car.

John Bristol apologies, was replying to comment from Max Revs - didn’t mean to be condescending in any way.

We’re all grown ups here👍🏼 When the owner reviewed the video before publishing he thought I didn’t speak enough and there was too much audio from him... Cameron, if you’re in the UK and ever want to meet and feature your car, I’ll tape my mouth and let you do all the talking 🤐

Thanks for sharing your story... both brilliant cars, each purposeful in their own way.

Believe it or not Josh, I was thinking about your car driving back from this video shoot. Do I mod my 987.2 to my heart’s content, or start the process of saving for a new Cayman over a number of years? The answer was made for me based on my finances... I’ve spent around £10k on my Cayman since purchase. It would be foolish for me to sell my car, and I don’t have spare cash, so I’m keeping the 987.2. I don’t actually feel the need for bucket seats in my 987.2. I don’t have PASM, and you’d be surprised how much harder my car rides than the 981 or 718 platform. Bucket seats in the 718 GTS 4.0 seemed perfect. Bucket seats in a 718 GT4 can be harsh at times on poor road surfaces. It’s time to just be happy with what I’ve got now ;-)

Yep totally agree ...... being content with what you have / can afford is very underrated in my opinion and a good human quality to have mastered ..... I haven’t but I’m working on it ! Haha :)

Hahahaha!!

Josh Laurence + the rumoured and highly likely post Brexit 10% surcharge next year. Fast forward 5 years when these GTS4’s are going for £40/50k that would be a good buy, as I can’t see much happening in the range until a hybrid version, so this might be the last 4litre of the petrol era.

I think if the price is increased by 10% on new cars post Brexit .... this will strengthen the prices of 2nd hand models ! Which is good for owners right now

sunnohh - agree! Pet hate of mine is people driving with one hand on the gear stick all the time. Change gear and out your hands back on the wheel. It’s a Porsche. Drive it properly!

At the moment at least, there are waiting lists for GTS 4.0 build slots and the GT4 is relatively easy to get as the waiting list have melted away due to Covid. The GTS 4.0 appeals to a much wider audience, one of the unique selling points of the 718 GT4 was that it was the only way to get a new 6 cylinder cayman, this no longer exists. Agree on the Spyder it’s the best looking car under £100k, the GT4 on the other hand is the motoring equivalent of sticking a pair of socks down the front of your pants.

Random Hawks and JMR. You both raise good points. I still love the looks of the GT4, don’t get me wrong. The 718 GT4 is THE BEST LOOKING GT4 in my eyes, apart from the rear exhaust which I prefer on the 981 GT4. I can only speak from the few cases I know so far, however getting a 4.0 GTS isn’t that easy. I certainly don’t think you can walk into a dealership with purchase history and get one, unless you get very lucky on a cancelled order which has already been built. As mentioned, and was the case with this chap in the video, he went from the 718 GT4 waiting list to the GTS 4.0, so I suspect a number of people are now thinking... ‘heck I can get the same GT4 engine in a slightly milder car’. I learnt in this video not to focus on the price differences... do whatever is right for you.

Fair point. I’ve been fortunate enough to spend time with 718 GT4 and 981 GT4 owners. There is an everyday penalty in driving a GT4 on UK roads, which at times make you think you could be living in a third world country. Until this video, I’ve always considered the GT4 the better car if you can afford it. However now it’s not just a cost difference between the GTS and GT4 which goes through my mind. It’s which car could I live with for a long time. The GTS is the better road car. That doesn’t change the fact, the GT4 is that little bit more special on road.

MAX REVS , have a GT4 coming soon. To me there’s one big factor you’re missing - the looks. Also, for many the GT4 is a special occasion car and not daily. I’ll drive mine on Weekends and holiday. I like the raw appeal of a track focused car.

Manny Singh Congratulations Manny!! Nothing like stirring the pot up a bit... thought I’d put my comments out there. The GT4 is the more special car, and agreed looks that bit more special with the aero treatment. The looks of the GT4 also means many of the GT4 owners I know get approached by boy racers at the traffic lights, and a few have been followed by unmarked police cars waiting for the driver to do something wrong. There is something to gain in each car, which comes at a cost. Both cars are awesome, the final decision resting with the buyer who’s putting their money down. Truth be told, I’d probably go with a highly specced 718 GTS 4.0, however that’s because I tend to buy and hold my cars for a long time. Would a GT4 suit me and my back aged 55?

@@MAXREVS fair enough. I'm nearly your age. Look after your back :) Thought that once specified, these 2 cars are not that different in price. If it is 10k, that's not too much considering the total cost. Anyway, I need something fruity while I can enjoy this stuff before regulations and my age catch up :) Keep up the content!

@@MAXREVS I'm 57 with a history of sports-injury related herniated discs in my back, so I got the 18 way seats in my GT4. I know, sacrilege! But, the seats have excellent side bolsters so around that you can adjust to snug your back and legs in quite tightly, are very comfortable, and soften the ride just enough to make the car more usable, especially on the well maintained roads I'm blessed to enjoy where I live. I guess you have to adjust and adapt the car to where you live, what you want and what your body can handle as you age! :-) The great thing about these cars is that Porsche gives you the ability to choose options to let you make them into what you want them to be. Great topic Max to get us thinking about all the things to consider about these amazing cars!

If you can get one....

Gotta respect his privacy😎

It's a fair point to make, I experienced launch control in a 718 Sport 2.5 and it was ferocious - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TItgSWhXWEM.html

MAX REVS good vid. Yeah, I think a lot of rubbish is spoken about the 2.5 but the performance is blistering. Armytrix also do a fabulous exhaust which gives a fabulous sound too, ton’s of pop’s and crackles. Keep up the great vids, REALLY enjoy them. 👍 P.S. didn’t recognise you in a suit! 😆

I feel for you James, the flat 4 is a good engine, but now the 4.0 GTS is out residuals will suffer. I have a problem with Porsche cashing in on the demand for a flat 6 and charging £64k for something we had as standard on the 987 and 981. £18k for 2 more cylinders?

Rich Fixes Cars yep, agreed. I think the smart money is on the 4 cylinder actually but I don’t have a dog in the fight. It just seems unbelievably overlooked despite out performing the 4.0 in almost every department. In truth I feel a lot of reviewers (exc Max from this) just see what someone else has said and more or less copy them, they don’t seem to think for themselves. I also feel it’s kind of ‘trendy’ to love the 4.0. although, yes, it does sound good straight out of the box, so to speak. Personally, if I was buying I’d buy the 2.5 GTS and fit an Armytrix exhaust on it. There’s a RU-vid vid about them on a GTS on here somewhere and, OK, they don’t sound like a flat six but they do sound cool, very cool.

James - I sold my 718 2.5 S (highly spec’d) for my current 718 Spyder. I agree the 2.5 is a great car and under appreciated - it’s a blast putting the pedal to the floor. Putting aside performance numbers, they are just two completely different driving experiences. The level of pure driver engagement in a manual NA flat6 4L GT4/Spyder vs a PDK Turbo 4 cylinder 718 cannot be compared on paper, but easily in the drivers seat. On a GT4/Spyder, you feel the rumble of the flat 6 engine idling, hear the scream of the exhaust running up to 8k redline and the induction noise of this huge 4L engine outputting linear power while mechanically shifting up and down the gears - it’s an unparralled man/machine connection. It just comes down to different values for each person - luckily, Porsche gives lots of choices!

Ja, you know me... GT4 obsessed ;-) Just trying to see both sides of the argument

@@MAXREVS ....and you know that I am not a big fan of the 982 GT4....although I own one......but as I said .....4.0 too close to a GT4.

You can Upgrade to Full Leather... in your rs3 Not... sad

Was hoping a friend with a red 981 GT4 would lend it to me for a year😁

@@MAXREVS I wonder how many times you would have to replace the splitter in a year :p

I like your comment, but I would not call that 'awful brainless noise' music ...