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The new 2020 Rolex Submariner is here! Crown & Caliber has already received one of the new 2020 41mm Rolex Submariners, and we are stoked! We will not only give you tons of specs on the new Rolex Submariner, we will also be comparing it to the previous Rolex Submariner 114060 and the old school 5-digit Rolex Submariner 14060M. So get ready for our hands-on comparison and review of the new 2020 Rolex Submariner.
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@markmcdonnell
@markmcdonnell 3 года назад
Two things make this video work... 1. The genuine excitement 2. Not scripted. More of this type of content please ♥️
@CrownandCaliber
@CrownandCaliber 3 года назад
Thanks for the feedback Mark!
@vijaymehra1101
@vijaymehra1101 Год назад
He knows what he is taking about and doesn't stop and studder or talk slow.
@ATMcGWriter
@ATMcGWriter Год назад
100%
@tkm3207
@tkm3207 3 года назад
Finally!!! All 3 references measured side by side! Thank you!!
@jeremydahm2124
@jeremydahm2124 3 года назад
Right!?
@Brandon-xo4pk
@Brandon-xo4pk 3 года назад
Appreciate the painstakingly detailed take on sizes. Perhaps its only us smaller wristed folks who are that sensitive to size changes and tend to obsess over details like these. But I think watch manufacturers should also take note and focus on lug to lug measurements instead of diameter alone....I think a 46mm lug to lug on these oyster cases could be a good middle ground for the larger and smaller wristed folks.
@kahuhipajae4088
@kahuhipajae4088 3 года назад
Great video, you have explained the new sub with great detail and it shows how perfect this watch is. Your compassion and excitement about this watch is also spot on. Excellent job!
@jnox8547
@jnox8547 2 года назад
124060 really is the perfect watch.
@ritethumstik
@ritethumstik 3 года назад
I always appreciate and adore your passion man. Also, the stache looks great!
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb 3 года назад
2020: 1 mm taper and .3mm larger bezel....untold drama. 2030: AR coating on the crystal. Everyone is selling their 30k subs to trade in for the new 40k AR coated sub. 2040: 2030 the pre AR crystal Subs are now worth 70k and the post AR subs 50k 2040: the Sub moves back to 40mm but the we are still waiting on the 2030 post AR crystal Sub to hit the ADs.....
@fhaquuu
@fhaquuu 3 года назад
I think your 99 percent gonna be right lol
@rilozen6702
@rilozen6702 3 года назад
flavor of the day. THe 114060 will be sought after in time. Blocky is not bad.
@VanguardX
@VanguardX 3 года назад
Exactly
@shaheenevans
@shaheenevans 3 года назад
Love the passion and excitement team, I love my hulk but the new sub rocks, design and cohesion with lugs and taper looks better !
@johncorcoran2569
@johncorcoran2569 3 года назад
Awesome video! The new Sub looks great. I Still love my 114060, and I got it at retail!
@atl3630
@atl3630 3 года назад
Hey, C&C just bought my friends Rolex Sub from the 1990s and was given a fair price and a great experience. Just wanted to put that out there - good folks at C&C.
@CrownandCaliber
@CrownandCaliber 3 года назад
Thanks atl3630!
@robbstone5866
@robbstone5866 3 года назад
I tried on the previous maxi case version and the new 41 mm version at an AD recently and I agree that the updated Sub is awesome! You really have to try on the watch to best see how it fits. There have been a lot of concerns about the larger bracelet and clasp but when you actually compare them in person, the difference is minimal (it is definitely not much larger in person compared to the usual zoomed-in video footage that everyone has seen). Great video and keep up the great work!!
@Seitsneddeppat
@Seitsneddeppat 3 года назад
These are exactly the kind of videos why you are my favourite watch channel. Well presented, high quality, informative yet nerdy but the good kind of nerdy. Keep it up!!
@CrownandCaliber
@CrownandCaliber 3 года назад
Thanks Sebastian!
@timetell4371
@timetell4371 3 года назад
What’s the length from end link to end Link?
@spittinvenom9843
@spittinvenom9843 8 месяцев назад
Bro brought out his calibres, 💩 about to get real and I’m liking it!!!
@ajotech
@ajotech 3 года назад
Great video Nathan, love the motion graphic details on the sizes just great quality in content and description.
@Ricky.913
@Ricky.913 3 года назад
I pause your video to clean my glasses. At the beginning there, you were getting pretty excited. I wanted to see what the excitement was all about. I then resume your video, and when I see it, drool hit my keyboard. And I also love how your nerding out about it... great stuff!!!
@japd7897
@japd7897 3 года назад
I like the black dial one.
@bjwal6
@bjwal6 3 года назад
Perfect video, exactly what I wanted to see ☺️
@siamadani
@siamadani 3 года назад
how does it 1) Sit and 2) Feel on the wrist?
@jxtitan
@jxtitan Месяц назад
I absolutely love my 124060! The most perfect watch!
@Sisu2280
@Sisu2280 Год назад
How'd you get it under the mat without looking at it? Removed your eyes then put them back in?
@jesusmancilla2360
@jesusmancilla2360 3 года назад
I have a request. Whenever you get your hands on a new Explorer 124270, could you do a size comparison with the older models 14270/114270 like you did with the old and new Submariners 🙏😬🙏
@TwentyOne_Five
@TwentyOne_Five 26 дней назад
I’ve owned the 40 and 41 together for a while. I’ve had colleagues who own each and seen it from a little distance. The one you want is the 40. The 41 looks better on the table. The 40 looks better on the wrist. The new one appears as a bigger, flatter pancake. That wider bracelet integrates into the narrower lugs and makes the lug to lug look bigger. 8:46
@me.Stilos
@me.Stilos 3 года назад
What’s about the dial/watch face? Just enjoy to see how exited you were 😅🤙🏼
@michaadamski8727
@michaadamski8727 3 года назад
A perfect watch you cannot buy if you do not spend money on the watches you do not want.
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb 3 года назад
cheap sales tactics from the AD.
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb 3 года назад
@Sharon Plume Yes, that's true but not the primary goal. More likely that they are looking to maximise sales from repeat customers or make peiple buy more to get what they actually want. I went into the largest ad in the uk, a large chain of 3 brands that sell most of the rolex supply in the UK. They said I had to have bought a rolex via them before to be on the interest list. So I asked, if I buy an op now would you put me on the list, she said yes but there is no guarantee I would get the no date sub I asked for. I'm essentially doing the job for them, 2 sales for 1. In no way does that prove I would be real or a flipper, it just helps them get rid of stock. Its bundling or trying to hook people to be regular buyers from them. Even the op could only be a colour that wasn't really in demand. So they control most of the uk supply and rolex knows whats going on. At least she explained the situation properly and registered me incase. Also tried the rolex boutique on bond Street, same...he'll register me but said my chances are zero. Didn't even bother with saying much else and waited for me to leave. One thing I can guarantee you is that the flippers have a purchase history and put themselves on every list in the past. No new rolex customers until you have bought some things you don't want, then maybe. That increaes the grey market cost which is way too much considering the high horology you can get at that price. Asked if my family would want anything or if i would like a datejust instead. Thought the buyer makes the choice? Play that game with a few models (daytona), but all of one style (steel sports) really takes you out of the game. Just an awful experience but its not her fault, the company enforce it. Went into JLC, Omega, blancpain and grand seiko since to see the alternatives. Treated with respect and actually got to try on some stunning pieces, the sales people were knowledge and enthusiastic about thier products rather than gaming sales. Plenty of alternatives and I've narrowed it down to 2. The one major concern with wearing a rolex was being a target in london and the 'is it fake/youre just flexing 10k' rep you get with wearing a sub. That risk is higher than ever now the cats out of the bag and high end fakes are everywhere. The brand seems to be for those that to want to display wealth, i was simply interested in a classic dressy diver so I'm not their target market.
@TheRainmanisback
@TheRainmanisback 3 года назад
Unless you live in the right country and have the right connections, just got mine at retail price from AD... the only one Rolex Swiss sent to the store.
@docluv14
@docluv14 Год назад
I just bought this watch (124060) two weeks ago. I am very happy with my purchase (11.5 month wait time from AD)
@spittinvenom9843
@spittinvenom9843 8 месяцев назад
Acquire one yesterday, on demand from a private seller, waited zero time and paid just under 20% over retail plus tax.
@camarossdriver
@camarossdriver 3 года назад
I owned a Rolex Air-King since 2003,and I FINALLY saved up enough to get my Submariner. I absolutely LOVE this watch,and I do prefer the ceramic bezel...it really gives it some POP!
@duanepresten8028
@duanepresten8028 3 года назад
Put my Sub beside the new one and could not see much difference. Mine is the date version with the 3135 movement and keeps within 1 second a day. Did not trade.
@k31rifleman
@k31rifleman 3 года назад
Will NEVER sell my 114060! I wear it every single day.
@yankeedoodle6293
@yankeedoodle6293 3 года назад
Will never sell my pre ceramic sub date. I’ve worn it everyday since I bought it in 2005 (16610)
@arnoldtm31
@arnoldtm31 3 года назад
Same here. I bought my 114060 in 2015 for my 30th birthday. Wearing it almost everyday. Will never part with it.
@beagle101ful
@beagle101ful 3 года назад
Great video and comparison of all three. I own the 114060 and the new124060. I agree they wear about the same on the wrist, but for some reason the 124060 seems to feel slimmer on the wrist (wears lower). Not sure if that’s jus a visual thing or what. All in all I love the watch👍
@TwentyOne_Five
@TwentyOne_Five 26 дней назад
I’ve owned both concurrently and you’re right. The wider bracelet integrates into the narrower lugs and makes the lug to lug seem way bigger vs the thickness. Plus the watch is thinner now as well. Sold my 41.
@19NJS71
@19NJS71 2 года назад
love the no-date sub
@lewisjones3345
@lewisjones3345 3 года назад
Crown & Caliber is great. I bought an Omega Globemaster from them and I can’t wait to do business with them again.
@sergezerkin
@sergezerkin 4 месяца назад
What about the movement being much louder ?
@jesusmancilla2360
@jesusmancilla2360 3 года назад
It would’ve been great if a 5512 was included and compared in this video. Does anyone have a 5512 that could provide measurements to compare with these models? Please include thickness and any other details you’d like. Thanks in advance!
@Sams911
@Sams911 2 года назад
the ABSOLUTE best 2020 release Submariner is the 126619LB.. you get the best of all... a color bezel, stainless sport look, and sold gold luxury and heft!
@ams914
@ams914 3 года назад
All you missed was weighing the different references. Which is the lightest? How does the new movement effect weight, etc.
@christopherwaye790
@christopherwaye790 3 года назад
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t watch diameters measured like a tv? Diagonally? Wondering if that would make any difference in the measurements. Also fantastic content.
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb 3 года назад
2 o clock to 8 o clock looks like the bezel is the end to end
@Cycad...
@Cycad... 3 года назад
114060, all day everyday!
@williamorr374
@williamorr374 3 месяца назад
Love my 114060…wear it every single day. Loved the video and the unscripted comments.
@Nexus.Achiles
@Nexus.Achiles 3 года назад
I didn't like the 116610LN or 114060, tried them on at the AD, they looked stocky on the wrist, almost square. The 126610 however is now like my SD43, perfectly proportioned. I love it.
@mrcosmograph
@mrcosmograph 3 года назад
Awesome video! Love the enthusiasm and attention to detail. Geeking out FTW !!!
@lumeplotters
@lumeplotters 3 года назад
I’d be interested in knowing the dial diameters as well as the bezel widths for the new vs old models
@MrCliteatswood
@MrCliteatswood 3 года назад
Previous version 40.3 mm
@MrCliteatswood
@MrCliteatswood 3 года назад
New is only .4mm more
@AG-nj3ky
@AG-nj3ky 3 года назад
It is pretty much the same watch. You can barely notice the boxy case of the previous model on the wrist. I think they should have left the bracelet dimensions untouched. Also movement wise it seems like a huge upgrade but the only major difference is the additional power reserve of about 20 hrs. Only usefull if you leave it unworn for a weekend.
@michaelb7448
@michaelb7448 3 года назад
Great to see your excitement about the new Submariner! I've wanted a Rolex Submariner ever since seeing "Live and Let Die" as a kid, but I didn't get one until last year at age 59. I chose to buy the 14060M over the 114060, because the five digit Submariner had more of the classic look of the four digits. Like you, I felt the blocky case on the 6 digit was out of proportion. But you said it perfectly; the 124060 corrected the missteps of the 114060. It's as if Rolex told the design team: "Pretend that the 114060 never happened. We want you to look at the 14060 and simply make it (proportionally) a bit larger overall." And the design team came through, creating the 124060! I'm a one watch man, happily wearing my 14060M every day and I could only see me getting a new one if Rolex added a domed crystal to a new iteration. (Or if I were ever able to afford a pristine 5512 or 5513.) Anyhow, thank you for the very excited, spot-on review!!
@pedrohenriquemedeirosdeoli387
@pedrohenriquemedeirosdeoli387 3 года назад
Man, which glasses are you wearing?? They look awesome!
@lv293
@lv293 3 года назад
Thank you so much for an amazing video and actually going over all the measurements. Keep up all the good work and I can’t wait to see the next one. Quick question if you had to personally pick between two green submariner’s the Hulk or Kermit pre-ceramic which one would you take?
@CrownandCaliber
@CrownandCaliber 3 года назад
That'a a tough one Luis. I really enjoy the green dial on the Hulk, but the Supercase is less desirable. The Kermit is such a great watch, but I think is not nearly as impressive as the Hulk. If it were up to me I'd get the Kermit and the bracelet and clasp from the 116610. Thanks for watching
@daveopincar2469
@daveopincar2469 3 года назад
Great comparison of the Subs. Please do another video about dial and bezel size. And time graft measure the movements of the new Sub to the older 6 digit. Stay healthy and safe. Please put the new Sub up for bids on the website. Nathan and staff all the best.
@mikelee8283
@mikelee8283 3 года назад
Great video. For first time Rolex watch buyer, any advice on buying one without over paying and waiting too long for it. Thanks.
@CJ-rb3do
@CJ-rb3do 3 года назад
Nate if all of us. You can feel is passion for these watches.
@yunlongwu8071
@yunlongwu8071 3 года назад
The bezel looks correct, dimension is correct and all the markers and hands are correct, the dial is also correct. This is the best rep I’ve seen, where do you get it ?
@MikeGraver
@MikeGraver 3 года назад
I know the videos about the sub, but that datejust looks better on you. :)
@MJagger89
@MJagger89 3 года назад
Awesome video! Any chance you could compare the new sub case dimensions to the current gen GMTs? The new GMTs have the re-profiled super case with more elegant lugs than previous iterations of the super case. Would be fascinating to compare the current gen sub and GMT!
@neillupton
@neillupton 3 года назад
Will stick to my 16610 , was not a fan of supercase, new one looks better, but sure it has an insurmountable wait list again.
@travischang1175
@travischang1175 2 года назад
the 14060(M) had the best proportions. why not use the technology know how of today and reintroduce it on the original perfect proportion case.
@11ish61
@11ish61 3 года назад
nice review, though sorry but the differences to me are minute. I like what Tudor's doing a lot more. I'm just praying for a bb58 GMT at this point
@turkialsaid9009
@turkialsaid9009 3 года назад
Still prefer the vintage subs this ain't that bad
@darrenstenhouse8033
@darrenstenhouse8033 3 года назад
Anyone know which size/model datejust Nathan wears? Size looks spot on. Sub, granted it’s a sports watch, appears much chunkier IMHO.
@CrownandCaliber
@CrownandCaliber 3 года назад
Nathan wears a 36mm Datejust Ref. 16200. Thanks for watching
@simplecookingwithjobay4356
@simplecookingwithjobay4356 2 года назад
I'm so excited to know what is the model watch you worned during taking this video?
@twassil
@twassil 3 года назад
BTW, I used a caliber like the one you are using, plastic, and it did leave some marks on my new watch. I now electric added tape to the tips, just an FYI.
@normsallitt2753
@normsallitt2753 2 месяца назад
Sorry, but nope. The 114060 with it's blocky case is visual perfection to me. But I have to say, that 50 hour power reserve is damn interesting and impressive.
@dsalsedo
@dsalsedo 3 года назад
Great and informative video! Can you confirm if the rotor in the new 3230/5 movement rattles when actively wearing on the wrist? Can you please compare the 3130 and the 3230 to see if this rumor holds up?
@markp9416
@markp9416 3 года назад
It’s definitely noisy compared to the older one. They used ceramic ball bearings in the rotor axel that make the noise.
@SMansourr
@SMansourr 2 года назад
i just got mine and it does the same noise… i went directly to the AD and they told me it’s normal with the new movement and people are scared and they got the same concern before… strange
@Analstrosen
@Analstrosen 3 года назад
The super case is a good idea because you can actually look forward to polishing it
@davidlaw2814
@davidlaw2814 2 года назад
Great video. Thanks guys.
@PITBOY911
@PITBOY911 Год назад
I just got one and it's amazing, the perfect watch.
@David-wt4rh
@David-wt4rh 9 месяцев назад
The new Sub is 41mm, it´s rounded. No one gives the diameter in tenths.
@nickjamesc3016
@nickjamesc3016 3 года назад
another awesome video. love you guys. keep it up team
@msbrownbeast
@msbrownbeast 3 года назад
Bring back the 16610. It had the best overall shape for the Sub.
@morganstrapco
@morganstrapco 3 года назад
Forget the watch, sick mustache bro!!!
@japd7897
@japd7897 3 года назад
With that t-shirt looks like an American soldier in ww2 deployed in the Pacific.
@southwesthouston7
@southwesthouston7 3 года назад
can you tell me the weight in grams of all three please ? im trying to decide if i should pick up a 5 digit 2008 sub date stainless or this new one
@duanepresten8028
@duanepresten8028 3 года назад
I weighed both of them at my AD and the difference was minimal. Part of the reason I did not trade. But the new one is a very nice watch. The new movement was one thing that almost made me trade.
@southwesthouston7
@southwesthouston7 3 года назад
@@duanepresten8028 being 5”8 slim, I wonder if new submariner would look huge on my wrist or stick with a 16610 instead
@Jordan-qw2vr
@Jordan-qw2vr 3 года назад
why is the 12 marker and the top of the crown logo spaced further apart?
@ianjones4799
@ianjones4799 3 года назад
Brilliant video.super excited about picking up the new submariner in the very near future 👍
@arnovda9479
@arnovda9479 3 года назад
Finally a proper in depth review! I subscribed 👍
@sammansoor8531
@sammansoor8531 3 года назад
Great vid! What are the weights of each? With bracelet, and without bracelet (ie just the head) if possible.
@mplsmnpi
@mplsmnpi 2 года назад
Great video, the 124060 is perfect..the dial just pops..its the easiest to read.
@itsveryhotinhere
@itsveryhotinhere 2 года назад
Great review. Love that enthusiasm!
@Ranghocsing
@Ranghocsing 3 года назад
Thank you for truly tell us the SD43 is the best of them all... but personally if the secondary market or reseller price I go buy the SD43... nice video as always
@ray7102
@ray7102 3 года назад
Are they all the same thickness?
@joshuabriggs7114
@joshuabriggs7114 3 года назад
Great review & comparo!
@twassil
@twassil 3 года назад
What an awesome review, great pictures, love it! Great job!!!
@wings400
@wings400 3 года назад
I have not even seen the watch... 10 seconds later: I already took measurements
@stefanobargeri2516
@stefanobargeri2516 3 года назад
If I wanted to put a jubilee bracelet on this the new sub 41, would the jubilee of the datejust 41 be suitable? As I know, is the only jubilee in the actual catalog with 21mm width
@tfsitt
@tfsitt Год назад
Can you pls compare the weights including all the links?
@VinnyTheCuz
@VinnyTheCuz 3 года назад
Great review and loved the excitement taking a first look at the new Sub.
@Buxtonphil
@Buxtonphil 3 года назад
Great video. Would love to see a similar one with the oyster perpetual.
@richards3108
@richards3108 3 года назад
Great video , loved the genuine enthusiasm 👍👍👍
@destinazioneignota1861
@destinazioneignota1861 2 года назад
Awesome video! I own the previous 114060
@LouisAmantiOfficial
@LouisAmantiOfficial 3 года назад
Great Video! Measuring it Across the case From the bottom left lug to the upper right corner lug what number does it give you? id like to know the number of the measurment. Thank you
@CrownandCaliber
@CrownandCaliber 3 года назад
Hey Louis, Here's a comparison of that measurement: 14060M - 52.4mm 114060 - 54.1mm 124060 - 54.1mm Hope this helps!
@zackzada
@zackzada 3 года назад
Spectacular review. Thank you!
@docpau698
@docpau698 3 года назад
Weighed both models 116610 vs 126610 with the same number of links. New model is heavier by 2.2gms only.
@horlojerie
@horlojerie 3 года назад
How does it compare to the 126710BLRO?
@Sergiors93
@Sergiors93 3 года назад
What is the dial size on new vs previous?
@TheRealMafoo
@TheRealMafoo 3 года назад
@6:49 the laser etched crown at the 12 o'clock is misaligned on the new watch (the old one looks good). You would think Rolex would have better quality control then this.
@tomnewham1269
@tomnewham1269 3 года назад
On the new sub it looks to me that the 6 and 12 markers are not in line but that could be just my eyes.
@cts1549
@cts1549 3 года назад
I looked for more pics after reading this comment and i think it's an issue of perspective. On the hodinkee review some pics looked misaligned to the right and some looked misaligned to the left. Monochromes review looked left, right, and centered respectively.
@CrownandCaliber
@CrownandCaliber 3 года назад
Hey Jeremy, I believe it is from the perspective of the pics. After spending time with the watch noting seemed misaligned.
@andrewmain8022
@andrewmain8022 3 года назад
You missed measuring the case thickness as opposed to the watch thickness. One of the most important dimensions for how the watch will wear.
@HarryJoiner
@HarryJoiner 3 года назад
Hate to say it, but I kind of prefer the more blocky version
@Milofchg
@Milofchg 3 года назад
The no date Super case doesn't look as blocky as the date version. The date version wears/looks larger. Next to a 42mm Speedy the date version looks bigger. The no date looks smaller. The good thing about the Super case. The lugs will not lose their shape if and when it get polished at service or overhaul. Unlike the 5 digit references, many have been over polished. When you see a spring bar sticking out of a lug, or spring bars not flush with the lugs. Those older Subs where over polished.
@love2letter
@love2letter 2 года назад
Same prefer the block/super case one better
@josecarlos11
@josecarlos11 Год назад
The super case sits better on my wrist as well. It’s definitely the better version
@watcheskick
@watcheskick 3 года назад
Let's just say the sub is still as popular as ever.
@basimalabdullah3563
@basimalabdullah3563 3 года назад
My wrist size 18.6 cm its ok if i take 41 sub or looks small
@tuchy1986
@tuchy1986 2 года назад
They kept the center links as before, while widening the outer links 0,5mm. Links proportions seems off 🙄🧐
@mr.peanutbutter7696
@mr.peanutbutter7696 3 года назад
REF. 14060M has the best dial since it doesn't have the words "SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED" on it. It looks less busy and more clean.
@zeljkodusenjko5425
@zeljkodusenjko5425 3 года назад
Nice review, 41mm is so nice and proportionate. My favourite watch❤️
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