I almost never comment on videos but I have to say this is an excellent review (and I watch bike reviews all the time). I like how the video is segmented and I appreciate the exhaust sound under load and that the bike was tested with luggage. Very well done! You've got a new subscriber.
great vid Tony as always, took one out few months ago if i had had the money would have gone and bought one. but do love my 800, only thing i don't like about the 800 is the Centre stand can be a pain, but looks like its much easier on the 900?
I'm torn between the GT Pro and the Rally Pro. My main use is going to be road for sure, but at 6' 5", I do prefer the height of the Rally Pro. My only doubt, is how the Rally would perform on road with the 21" up front? Any comments would be appreciated.
Brilliant Vid. I have been in ownership of the tiger 900 gt pro for 3 weeks now. It is a fantastic bike i love it. just had it's 600 mile service. i have all the panniers as well.
Good review Tony! I agree with almost all you said about the 900 GT Pro. I rode this bike a couple of months back and fell in love with it. It was only an hour test ride but I did not have any of the vibe issues you mentioned. Maybe just the bike you had? The screen was definitely an improvement over the 800 and the brakes were excellent! Not a fan of TFT screens but I could live with this one. If I had the funds I would get one tomorrow. Great review as always!
Thanks, i don't think thetyres help with the vibes. I should have made it clearer that the vibes weren't an issue, but they were noticeable compared to the 800. But then the pull on the 900 is much more noticeable than the 800 too
Good video :-D I had a ride of a Tiger 900 a couple of months ago , yeah very good. Coming from a Street and Speed Triple, I really do prefer the smoothness of a 120 degree crank triple. The T plane crank wasn't terrible, it is smoother than a twin, but not as smooth as a regular triple. I get it that they want the big bang torque to make it punchy, I just missed the smoothness.
That was a really good well put together review of a amazing bike 🇬🇧😎🏍☝️👌 and definitely one i was proud to be apart of as a now ex triumph development test rider and that bike being my last working project for me I started my life with triumph on the first tiger 800 and finished on the 900 couldn’t of asked for a better team or bike to finish on 😎☝️👌 keep up the good work
As you know I had the 800, now the 900. I think it's a hugely improved bike. Love it! You've hit all the nails on its head Tony 👍🏻 personally I wouldn't use apple play etc....but like you say, could come in the future with an update...
Thanks, yes its a good evolution. Given the investment in the My Triumph system I don't think they will go in that direction. To be fair it all works well and importantly the app is free, unlike some manufacturers
I luv my Tiger XCA😎. I've made quite a few modifications. BarkBusters, upper crash bars, longer gear lever, bar risers, lower footpegs lowered the gearing, changed the LED flashers so they don't break when the bike tips over, to name a few. The new bike seems to be an improvement and if my bike was stolen, god forbid, I would buy this bike. I don't feel inclined to upgrade. I use Google maps & Garmin for navigation Blue-toothed to my helmet, sort of needed on our backroads so the turn by turn on the display looks good but it wouldn't make me change bikes. Great review BTW.
Thanks Bernie, sound like you've made some great changes. A lot of people asked me if I was going to swap to the 900 when it was launched, and I'm of the same opinion as you. No I wouldn't change. (i've subsequently switched to a KTM 790 though) The 800 is still a fantastic bike, is this an improvement? yes I think it is, but it doesn't suddenly make the old one bad.
Thank you for the review!! This will be my next MC :D After owning naked CB1000R, I wanted something more comfortable, that I can do touring with, with enough power and good suspension.
Thank you Tony for another excellent review and personal look on this special bike. The Tiger was on my short list. but i took the Kawasaki Versys 1000 SE GT with the fastest electronic suspension because of my bad back. if i could not handle the weight of the Versys anymore, this Tiger would be my next choice. Ride Safe, Peter
I have just sold my Versys 1000 because of the weight. Great bike and sorry to let it go. Just replaced it with a Tiger 900 GT Pro. Does feel noticeably lighter. Hope it tours OK ! Good well balanced review by the way.
Great review and pretty much echoes my own views; I've had the same model for the last 4 months here in Aus and love it. On the subject of the screen, I agree on the appearance, size and readability but its functionality leaves a lot to be desired in my view. The rev counter is woefully difficult to read and I find it takes too long to navigate to the information I want. The other issue is the clunky seat anchoring: it always feels slightly loose and not 100% secure. It is also tricky to refit after removal. Great review!
Thanks, I agree I think the TFT is a lovely thing, but maybe they missed a few tricks. The rev display with the moving background is more of a light show than a useful indicator, but at least there are alternatives.
That's a Triumph hallmark. The seat has a curved front tongue, not straight. So, lift the rear of the seat higher, "jam" it in, then lower the rear onto the footers. It's more of a scooping motion. IF the footers aren't a snug fit against the stops, the tongue isn't flush fitted between the height bars on the tank.
Some people like it, some don't. I find it useful to have some background music when there is a voiceover as there is no other ambient noise, and the whole thing sounds flat.
Thanks Dave, yeah i'm not sure on the looks of the headlight, it works really well, but its kind of not one thing or the other. The goodies are great and I like gadgets, but I would be interested in seeing what the base model is like.
I own a Tiger 900 GT. Very well equipped & much cheaper than the Pro. So far i did 6600 km with it & i love it. Great adventure bike for commuting, traveling, riding sportively in twisty asphalted roads, but its also very good for riding on gravel roads & light/easy off-roads. One thing is sure: i will soon change Metzeler stock tires for Pirelli Scorpion Rally STR.
Really good review and answered a lot of questions for me. I've got the last of the 800xca and think I'll stick with it for another few years. But the new GT Pro will probably be my next bike 👍
I’m in the “I already have a Tiger 800 and love it camp” so however tempting it may be to change, I can’t justify a change to myself. Maybe in a year or two!
Great video 👍 I rode a 900GT Pro back in the summer and really wanted to like it but I found the vibration through the bars at higher speeds intrusive. It is worse than it is on my 1200 Scrambler at the same speeds. There's no way I could have ridden it at motorway plus speed for any length of time. Oh yes, and whoever designed the new TFT display wants sacking. The winged styling of the rev counter is very fussy and virtually unreadable. It's a 'no' from me
Really like this channel's reviews. It's been said before and it's worth saying again that the colour choices are very poor. The 800 in orange was/is lovely.
Stumbled across the review and thought it was very good. Pitched at the right level for me anyway and I've been around the block a few times 35+ years riding. Nicely polished presentation and whet my appetite enough to consider a test ride. Earned a sub too.
I know what you mean, this feels more spacious and the seat is not so deeply sculpted. I tried my best to show it with the overlays in the video. It definitely feels slightly more compact than the 800, it'll be interesting to see how the Rally Pro compares, but I have to wait until late January to spend some time on one of those
Great video. It's not actually a GPS navigation system as it connects your smartphone to the TFT via the Triumph app. If for instance you didn't have a smartphone on you then there would be no turn by turn navigation. Yes?
As usual Tony, a good well rounded test! After 12 months on an xca, I’d like to give the 900 a look..... maybe after Covid disappears. Keep up the good work, young fella!
Rented that bike yesterday while the dealer is working on my Street Twin, Fantastic bike and an absolute blast for riding in cold conditions, its too bad about the sytle though, I'm more into the bonnevile line up. Would be cool if the Bonneviles take on some of the tech from the tiger, specifically the heated seat and automatic adjustable springs. Good to see that they added cruise control and heated grip to the T120 (though odd that they left it as optional for the T100 and Street Twin...)
Very accurate review. I've had my GTPro for 7000 miles and it's Swiss Army knife versatile. Light weight midsize do everything well. Triumph needs to improve: TFT real estate use, "online gamer" rev counter, disappearing odometer, finicky bluetooth. The "My Triumph" app is rudimentary. Esp. NAV. Underseat "phone case" too shallow. Triumph is not a software/tech company. ((NOTE: Perfectly capable off "PAVEMENT" ADV bike (double track dirt/gravel/fire road) with the right tires. I run Michelin Anakee ADV 80/20. The GTP is not off-ROAD. That's the Rally model.)) There is a noticeable vibration at around 4200rpm, which is only annoying if you get stuck there for extended periods. Bike loves to be short shifted like a twin and spooled up like a triple. I absolutely love the quick shifter, the cruise control, and ability to change suspension settings and mapping modes (Rain/Road/Sport) with the flick of a thumb. (You must stop for Off-Road, and the bike returns to ROAD mode if you shut it off. This is to enforce rider decision to deliberately turn off off TC/ABS. ) I average just shy of 50mpg in mixed riding (mtn passes, commuting...), range of 225-240 miles despite the 50T (same as Rally) rear sprocket. The bike is comfortable and super maneuverable at low speeds for an ADV. Enjoy Yours.
I have a 2014 800 XC and I am looking to upgrade. Not because I NEED to, but I think its time. I do a lot less off-road than I used to, and the GT Pro looks like a great option. The electronic suspension would be AMAZING, I seem to be always adjusting mine. I was looking a the BMW F750 GS, but I just really like my Tiger. So another Tiger might be the right option.
Its a lovely bike, and the electronic suspension makes a real difference if you are constantly switching from riding alone, to adding luggage or a pillion. If I were looking at a new Tiger it is probably the model i'd go for. With the right tyres fitted it would do enough of the offroad rising i'd personally need.
hi thank you for your thorough review on T-900, i was wondering, my friend i need your honest opinion regarding between the bmw 1250 RT & the T-900? i'm leaning toward the BMW. my question is would it be worth it for me to buy theT-900 and save a couple 1,000 or step up and buy the BMW?
No problem and thats a really hard question to answer, I guess it depends on what you're going to do most on it? Sounds simple but my best advice is ride both and buy the one that grabs your heart
I have never particularly liked the Triumph Tiger, and I can't tell you why, although back in '94, I almost traded in my XRV750 AT RD04 in for one of the originals. My favourite bike of this ilk is still my old Buell XB12X Ulysses. The usual good review.
Thank you for your very informative video. Very slick and professional. I own a 900 GT Pro and It has exceeded my expectations. Regarding the vibration, it was present even tough not excessive above 130 Km/Hr. I now have 6,000 Km and it has completely gone. The engine is a lot smoother than the first 1,000 Km. It drives like a small bike and is really light compare to my previous Africa Twin.
Nice leap onto the bike. You got some jumpers. I'm not one for all the gadgetry, but I LOVE the way these new GPS work. Give me a big arrow and a distance and keep all the colorful, detailed maps I can't see. This should be the default way to do motorcycle GPS displays. And no fussy lady's voice commands interrupting me. Brilliant!
Hi good review lots for information. My question is it’s value for money with this machine ? If you compared with other 900 cc brand such as Yamaha tracer 900gt , Bmw 900 xr and Kawasaki . Looking forward for great advice . Cheers
Thanks, yes value for money is always a hard thing to compare as different people have different ideas of whats important. The Tracer 900 GT comes in at £11,200 and includes side carriers, but for example doesn't have the electronic preload or heated seats etc. But it does look like a well priced bike for the spec. The BMW comes in at £9800, but the price soon jumps as you spec it up. It would be fairer to compare the base Tiger 900 at £9,500. Its all about weighing up what features and spec are important to you and going from there. Plus there will always be a bike you prefer riding regardless of spec.
This review is well done; just like the bike, more substance than style, but sufficient style too. The question of potential buyers still lingers: Buy a discounted 800 or “invest” in the 900: do the differences in each bike justify the significant difference in price?
Thanks, yep its a tricky question. There are some cracking deals on the 800 stock at the moment, particularly if you can get stuff like luggage thrown in, and its a fantastic bike. Only the individual buyer decide if its worth the difference in the cost. It’ll be interesting to see as time goes by what happens to the used prices of the 800?
As 2020 ends my two favourite bikes are this Tiger 900 GT Pro and the Honda CB500X, both of which you reviewed very well. I had a Speed Twin, but I Like these more for general riding around the lanes of SW England. I’ve also enjoyed some of your other reviews, such as helmets etc. Happy new year to you.
Thanks Pete, thats very kind of you to say so. I’m hoping to put out a video looking at the adventure bikes coming in 2021 on New Years Day. Happy New Year to you. Hopefully this mess will clear up enough to get down to the SW and do some riding next year!
Its quite a different animal really. Its smoother in its power delivery, but the KTM feels more punchy. This is loaded with kit the KTM no so much, but it has everthing I need. I prefer the riding position and the balance of the KTM.
That largely depends on what kind of terrain you'll be riding I guess, the Tiger has a weight advantage and that electronic suspension is fantastic. But the DCT makes for incredibly relaxing riding, and the AT is without doubt a comfortable mile muncher
Great video but a few too many adverts punctuating the flow. Don’t understand the need for music and calls on the TFT. Do people ride a bike like they drive a car?
Not bad, I stopped for fuel on the way down and food on the way back. But I felt pretty fresh at the end of the day. No numbness or tingling in the hands, and to be honest that would worry me on any bike
Good review thanks. We’ve got one on the way in March, with that luggage, for two up touring. Mostly all good news i reckon. Always a compromise for any bike i reckon. Cheers, Pete
Overall this video was really excellent and it was great to get a perspective from someone who owned the 800. I test rode the 800 back to back with the Street Triple (knowing they serve completely different purposes) and took the Street Triple home. Though the 900 made me curious, I think I'll stick with the ST3 a little longer. But I'm glad to hear you think the 900 is an improvement over the 800.
For those who ride 85% on paved roads, & 15% on gravel roads & tracks with very occasional creek crossings, which 900 would you recommend the GT or the Rally ? Would the GT be ok with more off/road tyres for those adventures into National Parks etc... Which only happens 1 or 2 times a year & the majority of the trip is on paved roads... and the bike does have an off/road mode ?
Put a set of decent dual tyres on a GT and it will cover all scenarios the scenarios you’re looking at. The good thing is all of the Tiger 900 models have an off road mode within the standard riding modes.
Test drove one last Wednesday,absolutely fantastic bike BUT maybe a bit too good.When driving my 800 I feel like I'm driving it.When I was driving the 900 GT pro I felt like I was sitting on a very well put together bicycle with a ton of electric gizmos.so light and nimble... and I definitely felt the same about the seating,it felt like sitting in a cup to me.Great bike but I would go with the/my 800!
Tough call. I prefer the looks of the tiger and it’s going to handle gravel tracks better, but I’m also a massive DCT fan, so that might push me over to the Honda.
very useful sensible and helpful review. , I'm a beginner motorcyclist end am small 166cm, currently I ride a naked bike Honda but he is not comfortable in highway,, so which bike of this equation is right for me? I drive daily to work in the city and also the highway( Commuting) and sometimes during a weekend round of recreational so, which one? crossover or adventure motorcycle so what is your opinion? Tiger 800/850 ro 900.... or BMW 750/850?
@@mancavemoto I have already bought a Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro, it is from 2023. I had it lowered with a special set and I can now put my feet on the ground while retaining saddle heating. is a premium bike and rides super well.
looks like a stonkingly good bike; I am sticking with my versatile Street Scrambler 900 which you ably tested a while back. If I had distance to cover this would be a bike worth consideration - love the good looks.
Just bought Tiger 900 gt pro...price 13300k...was also trying ktm 1290...but the front so hugely....before I had honda cb1000r black edition and ktm 1290cc super duke...I'm tired with streets, wanted something with comfort.
@@mancavemoto Tommorow going to grab my Tiger , as I said was testing Duccati Multistrada v4 1200, Yamaha Tracer 900, Yamaha Tenere :D/// Tiger was best for me, even KTM 1290 almost same price....of course KTM is rocket, but not everythink in power.
Great review! I am considering this bike as first and made a test ride at our local dealer. I have one question in mind although. Do you know if it is possible to adjust first gear free speed to fall below 12 Mph, because I find it a little bit annoying jumping from learn bike Kawasaki Er6n which made a free speed without touching the throttle bar of around 6 Mph?
I doubt this is something you can just 'adjust'. It comes down to the different engines and their power. You got to have to learn not to rely on such things with heavy bikes such as the Tiger 900 anyway.
@@baar_nii Thanks! I made second test ride on Monday and discovered that in sport mode speed is at 12 - 13 Mph but in road mode is 9 mph. Probably in rain mode it falls more. As for the weight after 40 miles of riding find this bike as very nimble and responsive with great weight distribution which makes it feel lighter than it is. After all said ordered one and hope to not regret it. Fingers crossed. :)
I agree, first gear is far too tall and 6th is too short. I'd like to go down 2 or 3 teeth on the rear sprocket to bring down the revs at 70 mph and quell the vibration a bit, but that would make the first gear problem worse. since the bike is intended for light off-road use, the choice of a tall first is confounding.
Nice video. I"m an ex-Londoner living in Paris and have recently bought a Ducati Scrambler 800 which is amazing around town but not so great for faster roads. I was thinking of getting the Tiger 900 for longer trips and motorways but am not sure that I could get it through the ultra dense Paris traffic as easily. Also the height and weight may make it harder to manoever at low speeds and at a standstill. Have you spent time on it in cities and what is your take? Cheers
Thanks, and yes its a bigger bike, but the seat is only 20cm higher and the weight difference isn’t huge. I found it fine in urban surroundings, but they pale into insignificance when compared to Paris traffic!
Really liked this review. I tested this bike a few weeks ago and recognised pretty much everything you say about it in this video. However, for me the vibes were a real issue, and given the price it was a deal breaker sadly. If Triumph had gone ahead with the production of a base version as they originally planned priced at just under £10k then I might have been tempted. Personally I think they have shot themselves in the foot with this decision.
Thanks for the review, just a wee request: "can you kill the elevator muzak and leave the Triumph engine soundtrack in?" Can the ride be set up plush on bumpy sealed roads? So many bikes are fine on most roads but become bone-jarring over a few bumps!
Getting a decent recording of engine noise without any wind noise accompanying it is quite difficult. I filmed this with the intention of doing a voiceover commentary as opposed to speaking as I rode 'motovlog' style. When editing it, it sounded very flat with just the voice over and no other ambient noise. So added added some background music. it appears a few people don't like it! The recording for the exhaust sound was a specific set up, which wasn't conducive to filming the whole ride. Thanks for watching though
It looks like the weather protection is reduced, in fact it could be poor in my opinion. I am speaking about year round riding so wind and rain experience. Any thoughts?
I’ve ridden it in both and it was just as good as the 800. The screen is taller in its highest position and the wings either side keep the bulk of the rain off.
@@mancavemoto Well I have followed my heart, not my head which was driving my question here in this conversation, I have ordered a Speedmaster. I will worry about the weather later!!!
Hello Tony, thank you for the review! Could I ask if you noticed any vibration in the mirrors once up to motorway speeds, which I and many others have reported that you get with the tiger800? Also, what model of the blue Klim suit were you wearing, and would you recommend it? Thanks, and keep them coming!
Hi and no problem. I can't say I did, maybe having owned an 800 I just didnt pay attention to it. But nothing certainly stuck out as being an obvious issue. The suit is the Kodiak, and I've been wearing it for a few months to make a long term test review. Its a great suit, very technical and very tough
I didn't do a proper test, but I was averaging in the high 50's low 60's mpg. The round trip i did with the lugggage used just over a tank, so I would say 200 miles isnt out of the question
What a great review 👍I’ve owed this exact bike for 4 months and it’s brilliant , but your review is the only one to pick up on the tyres ! I’ve had a few bad experiences with them tram lining sometimes worst in wet conditions! I think it’s fine for me to say that I find the front tyre bordering on dangerous! I’ll replace the tyres ASAP . But other than that , the bike is amazing! it nearly keeps up with the fast gs guys but it’s not quite there . but plenty of power for me 👍
I have the same tram lining with my 900GT PRO, I also had it with my 800 XRX and affected both of the available makes of tyre , I think from the forums, its a problem with the tyre ratio's and that they have also used a CROSSPLY tyre instead of a Radial. There is an "Alternative" and its Road Pilot 4 which has slightly different ratio's. The problem being, it is not a Triumph approved tyre, and therefore would from the insurance point of view, be a modification, which might be a costly swap.Other than that, I really like this bike over the 800XRX. Cheers, Gordon
@@gordonLP thanks Gordon , you really know your stuff! I appreciate your advise and it’s good to know that it’s not just my bike ! Thankfully when I push the bike hard I’ve not had a problem, but when riding around 20 to 30 mph it get out of shape and feels like I could come off , but like I said it’s only happened a few times ( but a few times to many ) I am going to swap the tyres ASAP Cheers Paul
PersonalIy, I don't think many insurance companies would have any issues with fitting 'non-approved' tyres. I'm fairly sure Triumph approve tyres as part of their homologation requirements as a manufacturer rather than the suitability to the bike?
Thanks, having had them on a KTM 1050 I found these to be very similar in performance. The problem can be that sometimes (not neccesarily these ones) the OEM tyre is not the same as the 'general market' tyre of the same model. The bike certainly doesn't need any more power.
@@mancavemoto that’s put my mind at ease ! I will swap ASAP , and you are right it’s quite nippy when you ride it that way 👍I also find the bike rides best in sport mode . Look forward to your up and coming videos 👍
