If you price out a similarly equipped BMW 540or MB E450, you will hit 90K before the PDI and you'll still have less power. And NOBODY takes a second glance at a BMW or MB anymore. Bet you won't be able to say that in the new G80, gorgeous.
It's a bit surprising that Zak didn't do his homework. The G80 is NOT the same price as it's competition! Fully loaded, the G80 is 76K. Almost fully loaded, the inline 6 cylinder 5 Series is 96K. I'd say 20 grand is at least noteworthy!
Simply a gorgeous car! You'd be doing yourself a disservice not to cross shop this with the Germans. I think it was smart of Genesis to raise the MSRP. The fit and finish now seems to be competitive with luxury brands, and a higher price point implies quality in people's minds... Getting away from being a "bargain brand." I even like the steering wheel!
I'm waiting for the G90 to get the revision for interior tech (3D odometer, infotainment and center console. That and the panoramic roof. I'm all-in if they do for 2022.
I kinda laugh at these modern infotainment systems now. It's against the law to hold a phone up to your ear but stabbing a touchscreen while your driving for literally everything including hvac systems in many cars is ok.
Let's get real here. What is that G80 can't do and German cars can? Absolutely nothing. Would you pay extra $$$ for Germans just so you can keep bragging rights?! You tell me... but any smart shopper would probably consider this gorgeous looking vehicle over Mercedes Benz or BMW any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Not to mention Genesis much like Lexus holds its value much better and are more reliable than European counterparts.
Agreed. Qwned german makes for 30 years. And yes they were all new when i bought them. On a good day with no issues or error lights they are great. When they have issues the ownership experience wears you thin. G80 would be reliable and stylish. The 5 year valet service is certainly interesting. The German makes don't do that because they would have an army of valet guys running around picking up cars. It would bankrupt their companies. lol
@@kerjnerm681 what would bankrupt Germans is the reliability. They make majority of their profits from the parts not from selling cars actually. They don't sell that many cars to make it actually feasible for them to make money to keep their business intact. Selling parts is what keeps them in business. Therefore, they cannot afford to make their cars reliable. Otherwise, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.
@@sallauddin1 well it depends how you look at it. In terms of features and design I think Lexus is trailing, because most Lexus products are old and haven't been updated for several years. Popularity wise there is no contest Lexus wins hands down. Lexus has been around for 3 or so decades, so Genesis can't compete on that end. However, reliability wise Genesis has been showing some promising results. They're closely behind Lexus. Certainly better than Infinity and Acura.
@@SOBIsHobbies I agree with you, they're getting so much better. However, Lexus is long-term reliable; they thing is that toyota/lexus invist most of their budget on the parts that reflects reliability that's why they are a bit behind tech wise. Only time will tell.
They offer valet also because there are not much specific Genesis dealerships (who woukd want to service their luxury cars in hyundai dealerships). Luxury car buyers expect to be treated better than typical non luxury car buyers. If you don't believe it visit one Toyota and one Lexus dealership.
Genesis is doing great things with their autos. Their dealerships are another story. I don’t think they can win over luxury shoppers who have experienced other dealerships unless those consumers use the Genesis concierge service so they skip the Hyundai dealership. At least here in the NYC area, I have yet to see a stand-alone Genesis dealership.
this is not meant to be a sporty car.this is all about luxury, not sport. genesis will release a g80 sport later that will be more sporty and have more sporty stylilng like you want.
A night terror dream scenario is opening the door to this opulent interior and then seeing this steering wheel, but everything else in this vehicle reeks of luxury.
I'm sick and tired of seeing the 3 Germans everywhere. Where's the exclusivity of having a luxury/premium car if everyone and their mother has one? I'd definitely get a Genesis, especially the refreshed G70 or even better, the G70 Shooting Break that will soon be unveiled in Europe. The only problem for me is that for the price of a G70, there's the Model 3 which will save you 200-300$ in gas every month on top of that. I'd love a G70e, or at least a PHEV
I would prefer to have the maintenance package as an option. Most people’s tyres and big budget maintenance issues (struts/trany/head gaskets/turbos) are not an issue, with the first 5 years (100-120,000 kms?). Most original owners never replace a timing belt. They typically leave that expense to the 2nd owner. So what you’re really getting is pre-purchased oil changes and a few free car washes. Besides... the Hyundai Group have great warranties already (and shuttle services).. so why not just lower the cars price and offer it as a VIP service? I do love this new Genesis, both inside and out! Thanks for the review.
The cars are fine. Good performance and comfort. Several issues but nothing horrendous. But as an owner I have to warn you that the customer experience is the worst I've ever had - luxury car or otherwise. So yourself a favour and stay way clear. I really wish I did.
Yep, my next car will be the refreshed G70 next fall. It has the new infotainment AND the digital 3D dash and a Sport+ mode and of course the new front end and rear end
So, the 3.5 V6 must have less power in Canada than the U.S.? He said the 3.5 V6 has 360 h.p. but in the U.S. it’s rated at 375 h.p...... On the Genesis Canada website, it says the 3.5 V6 has 375 horsepower. 🤔
Hyundai was smart to establish the Genesis brand, much like Toyota did with Lexus 30 years ago. Their ultimate success will depend more on the SUVs than the low volume luxury sedans.
I'm not so sure, given the lower purchase of this vehicle compared to comparably equip competitors, I think you might end up losing less money to those MUCH more expensive cars from other companies. All luxury cars depreciate but I have yet to see Hyundai/Genesis vehicle on any list of cars that will depreciate the most. Can't say the same for BMW though.
The problem is whoever is spending that amount of money would first think... Why not a 5 series or A6 or E-class? Genesis just does not have that Brand presence as the Germans, and that's a big deal which even the Americans haven't found the answer to!
Most people that are in the market for these cars are smart enough with their money and simply lease these cars. Genesis needs to undercut Germans in that area to have success moving these cars.
Vipul...Because it's not the same money. Comparably equipped German cars are roughly 20K more and far less reliable. I think there's good value in this Genesis.
No I wouldn’t buy that brand and I’ll explain why history on the other two companies the engines are horrible . Know a few people who lost engines . The brand as a whole I question but I’ll stick with our Lexus and Toyota I’ve had no issues with them and I buy a lot.
I think it looks great, aside from that steering wheel. I wonder if they can offer that car valet outside of major metropolitan areas? In any case, I think I will test drive it, if lease options will be decent, who knows, that might be my next company car.
I Have not taken a look at the G80 in person, but did see the G90 on the Hyundai lot a few days ago and I was not impressed with the look of the vehicle at all. I believe, the the vast majority if those buying the G80 will be bargain brand shoppers that cannot afford the more expensive and prestegious luxury brands vehicles.
wish people would stop calling these cars suv;s, they are station wagons, have always BEEN station wagons and will always BE station wagons. Love the Genesis sedans, great car.
Too bad you have to get your Genesis serviced at a Hyundai dealer. I feel that the price increase on the G80 is Not reasonable. The G80 Sport was $62,000 last year and essentially $76,000 now. I had a deposit on the new G80, but when I found out what the price was, I purchased a BMW M340i.
The same way a Lexus "is" a Toyota, and an Infiniti "is" a Nissan. People don't really seem to have a problem with that, but when it comes to Hyundai, for some reason...
After owning 3 Genesis 3.8 (G90) models, I would never purchase another Genesis. I definitely would not purchase a new model unless, I intended on keeping the vehicle.
@@preshus2043 I had some electrical issues with the switches, like for the windows, doors, trunk. Also whenever, I had an issue, the service dept. at the dealer and service with corporate was very poor. You don’t get the premium luxury experience like for instance with the Lexus brand. I purchased a 2021 GX 460. If you don’t care about customer service then get the genesis product.
Sure, it’s shiny outside and in.. but do you wanna talk about all the defects caused by poor engineering and lack of R&D?? Electrical gremlins, oil consumption, excess engine vibration, sudden unintended acceleration cause by faulty electronics?? You can put a lipstick on a pig & guess what?? It’s still a pig. Why do you think they offer 10 year warranty?? Because the manufacturer knows about all the faults & defects, yet still wanna sell you the car. I don’t wanna spend my money on to be a “Beta tester” Do your own research on “Genesis/Hyundai defects in S.Korea.” Don’t believe in reviewer that gets paid by manufacturer. Buy one if you don’t value your life.
Hyundai Genesis changes the look too often. You can tell an E class or a 3 series for a few generations. Genesis resale will be terrible as soon as next refresh comes. Then Hyundai moon roofs explode. And palisade has smelly headrests, literally. It’s a know issue. So reviewers will like the car for 12 hours, but you wouldn’t buy one I’m sure. Jd powers is initial quality, not 3 years. So ownership and having it for a week is different. When you’ve owned enough cars, Toyota is the only brand worth owning. I’d lease European and it’s fine, but Japanese and especially Toyota is only one worth owning.
My family has owned Toyotas for 50 years, and would take this over any Lexus sedan, especially the new cost cutting of the new multiple TNGA platforms, that punish you for being over 6 feet tall. Toyota has gotten so margin profit driven, you can see it on all their new products. Hyundai on the other hand follows the old forgotten Toyota mantra, equality and refinement improvements. The current changes you see on Genesis is because they are listening to customers and improve them quickly, like Toyota use to do. Just like how a Toyota Cressida looks different in 1978, 1981, 1985. Changing on improvements. Toyota doesn’t change anything anymore because they are riding on reputation. And reliability is made by keeping engines for 10 to 20 year to fix all the flaws and finally get it reliable. However, current Toyota can’t make something reliable right out of the box anymore. I am very impressed by current Hyundai motors. It reminds me of the ambitious 1970’s Toyota, with the quality of the early 90’s Toyota.
@@cargueone1971 if we’re being honest this person sounds like a long time Toyota fanboy. Nothing you say will paint the truth to them. I’m not saying Hyundai/Genesis is perfect (they’re both still “fairly new” well genesis is still new considering) compared to the rest of their competition. But for genesis to be able to take the market by storm (something Honda and Toyota took their luxury brands a few decades to do) is commendable
Overpriced and over styled. They also removed a lot of tech that the Koreans get that would help justify that price. Go look at @asianpetrolheads channel and see the Korean model, it's better. But that grill is too much. I was really excited to see this car out, but now that it is, I just don't really like it. Its too snobby looking. Interior is gorgeous but these tablet screens sticking out of the dash with gimmicky controls are really getting on my last nerve. No real shifter makes it a non drivers car. I hate dial and push button shifters. They've priced themselves out of reach of their current customers and have tried to reach for the Germans when their brand isn't established and has a very poor deal network in Canada. Lots of Promise, but they need to resolve a lot of issues with their dealer network, get a fan base, prove reliability with these new products, then they can maybe justify a higher price point. Residuals will be questionable which makes leasing unattractive. Not sure how this car will sell. Only for lawyers and doctors who don't care for brands? The 4 cyl is more expensive now than the last gen's top model v6/v8?!?!? It's a huge price jump.
