@@Unchainedmaple888 Marketing looks for feedback on RU-vid channels and popular opinions have been of similar ones found in this channel. Its not that surprising.
@@headcoatee yup, honda does a good job at changes based on feedback whereas acura doesn't. i mean, honda redesign the 2012 civic after one year, and they brought back the volume button pretty quick haha. acura on the other hand kept that damn beak for years.
You really feel the simplistic 90s-ness of this car. The interior and the exterior are minimalist while still being completely functional and pleasent to look at. It's fantastic.
It’s why I’m so confused why there’s so much backlash online about the way this thing looks, from a lot of Honda people. They’re always lamenting not having the simple back- to-basics approach from the cars in the 90s, and this thing, even visually, harkens back to those days. And they all hate it. It’s so dumb.
Yeah, Honda went back to form with this car and embraced much of what made Honda's great in the past. In the 70's Honda's tag line was: "Honda - We make it simple."
@@Incomudro1963 lmao probably. We have a 10th Gen in our household and I love it, my girlfriend is the exact demographic that they mentioned in the vid. But I like that honda mixes it up style wise. I’m a former gti owner so I appreciate the more restrained lines.
@@DainLaguna I think most people view it as understyled and lacking any distinct body lines that really put it apart from other sedans. It’s basically boring. But that’s not always a bad thing
This might sound odd to some, but one of my favourite parts of that Civic is the fact that it has REAL exhaust tips!!! I'm getting so tired of those fake ones that seem to be becoming more and more common. Thank you Honda :)
Seriously! I would love this interior at ANY price-point. Please, no more overcomplicated electronics/haptic feedback buttons/etc... Nobody, at any price point, or at any age range, enjoys those features.
Um, am I the only one who sees that sea of gloss black all around the vent area, push button start, and on the freaking steering wheel? You're guaranteed to touch it and it will absolutely get covered in dust. You can even see him touching the gloss black on the steering wheel when he presses the buttons and praises the buttons for being matte black. Idk why Honda didn't just use that carbon fiber looking trim instead of all that gloss black.
I watched so many reviews. On a few top picks. Mazda, Toyota and Honda. An entire weekend of binge-watching. It was not until I saw this one I decided to get this car. Exactly as shown. I have only had it for 10 weeks and I would say this review was spot on. I have zero buyers remorse. Thank guys.
What made you pick this over the Mazda just curious? I ended up getting the cx5 and one of the main reasons I did so was because of the noise level inside the car. I couldn't take how loud some of the newer Toyotas are.
Man I love the way you guys make videos. Clear car enthusiasts, who are realistic about the average car buyer, with a lot of nitty-gritty, tech-y stuff, that somehow is never the boring, useless, neurosis-addled nit-picks from some reviewers. With really clean shooting/editing, too? And nice audio? Best car channel, hands-down.
I really liked the interior review. You make a convincing case for WHY piano black is bad for commonly touched surfaces, why good black levels are important on all digital clusters, and why good matte physical controls matter. You also explain how the layout can be clean while still retaining the important ergonomics from physical controls. I'm really glad Honda has continued in this direction in a time when a lot of new cars seem designed for flashiness without consideration for practicality. I just wish they offered more than an all-black interior. This car's interior design begs for it.
Yet you can literally see him touch the gloss black on the steering wheel when he's pressing the steering wheel buttons. Of all the places to put gloss black, why on the damn steering wheel? And when you go to adjust the vents, you're going to rest your hands/get your fingerprints on all that gloss black around the vents and central dash area. You won't touch the gloss black on the door, but all the gloss black in the interior will collect dust.
Same here, very pleased with the design direction and I hope other manufacturers follow suit! I’m an unapologetic vw fanboy and I would love to see them adopt what Honda has been doing, they’re atrocious when it comes to glossy plastics.
I just don't get it. It looks so simple and clean. Like we don't want much. We are actually asking them to do LESS and then they keep throwing more crap on there that just gets in the way. Well done Honda.
What... fuck that. Aside from maybe the speed of the screen, the Nissan Sentra SR Premium has a better interior than Civic Touring... However, Nissan fails to deliver any sportback/hatchback vehicle design. Flop decision on their part imo
They made this car so unbelievably good that even an LX or sports trims (which are both at or under $25,000) are amazing cars with almost every feature you'd need
I’ve owned 2 new civics and accords, and a few new BMW 5 series; however, I always come back to Honda’s quality, innovation, and value advantage time and time again.
I hate the mcdonalds fish sandwich, it's so bland compared to the ones I ate in Singapore. Like damn man, those small bakeries really made some DELICIOUS food
Wow, been a while since we've had such a high praise review across the board for a vehicle. Now I'm hyped for what Si and Type R are going to be like when it's has such a great starting platform to begin with.
I've been grinding these car review videos for a prospective purchase, and I have to say.... you guys by far do the best job. No one else looks under car/discusses every aspect, and seem extremely not invested or biased in review. Good job, reminds me of those amazing 2000s TV shows on horsepower channel lol.
This video should be one of the best and biggest compliments that the Honda Civic team could receive, must be rewarding for them. I've never seen any other videos that you guys gave the level of compliments to any other cars. Apparently, it's pretty sure that this car is going to sell well in the US market very well, I assume this sells well all over the world. Now I'm seriously considering this car as our new family car. I'm so happy to consider this car as a Japanese who loved the old Civic Si so much a long time ago.
It blows my mind how much space this has in the hatch. I’ve seen some people bellyaching about the price of this thing compared to like an accord, but this is way more practical than a accord? As long as you’re OK with a slightly smaller interior space. This has more cargo capacity than something like a Subaru crosstrek , and drives infinitely better. There’s so much space in the back of this thing that you could make a case for getting this over something like a CX-5 which doesn’t really have that much more appreciable cargo room or interior space. Unless you just really wanna be up high, there’s no reason to choose a cuv. Honda nailed it.
You guys do such a great job with your reviews and I appreciate that you don’t just regurgitate the press briefing talking points, but actually consider whether real drivers would find something exciting, useful, or annoying. I also like that you don’t just review exotics but drive cars that real people can afford. Not all of us can toss on a pair of stringback driving gloves for an early morning jaunt through the Alps in the latest Maserati. Some of us have to find enjoyment on our drive to the grocery store.
I absolutely love these reviews. They are always put together incredibly well and professionally. I also appreciate the absence of bias as there are comparisons to other vehicles but this generation of civic hatchback does seem the be the best one yet.
I had been looking at CUVs like the Kona and Seltos, but there were too many drawbacks. My research led me to the Civic Hatchback, and I bought one a few days ago. I was able to get exactly what I wanted: sport touring with the CVT in Boost Blue Pearl. Loving it!
You lucky dog. All I could find was a 2 month waiting list in a red sport hatch. I put the 500 down but then I saw the 22 Corolla nightshade SE and got that. Actually gotta make sure the Honda salesperson refunded my $500 back.
@@3rdWorldNola The market was tight 7 months ago, but not nearly as bad as it is now. I would not be able to replicate this success in June 2022. I was concerned things might get worse before they get better. I got lucky with the timing.
I bought one like yours in the Pearl white metallic with the grey/black interior. Just waiting on my window tint and it will be perfect. Drives great. Stereo is amazing. Lots of room and my passengers are comfortable in the front and back
The interior harkens back to their simple yet refined designs of the 1980's and 90's. Low cowl, dash and belt line with lots of glass and straight lines. Glad to see Honda moved away from the Sci-Fi bathtub interiors of the mid 2000's onward.
Agree. 2022 dash is big improvement and reminds me of my 91 Honda Civic hatchback's view forward. The hood literally disappeared once my seat positioned for long drives. Sharp car.
Huge win in that interior for Honda. VW blew the interior on the MK8 GTI, so badly that they've lost me as a customer. I had a MK6 (4 years) and have been driving my MK7 since 2015. But when I get rid of it, I'm not going with a MK8.
VW went full retard in that regard. I have had my Mk5 GTI since new (2006) and I’ll probably be parting with it next year to buy a 2.0L Sport 6MT (Miata is my other car).
@Incomudro fully agreed. If you loved VW's exceptional and high quality designed interiors of the Mk7 Golf variants, Honda picked it up here with this new Civic (VW, you blew it with the Mk8). I'm highly impressed.
Sorry, but there's no way I'd go from a GTI to this. . This Civic is nice enough as an entry level DD, but there's no real excitement in the performance, and the look is ...meh. Maybe the SI will put it over the top, but honestly, I'm not interested in a 6MT at this point in my life, and there's no CVT in my future. If they offered an actual auto box like the Accord, or some kind of DSG, I might change my mind. I'll give VW the chance to take care of the worst issues on the interior in the mid cycle refresh....which I'm sure they'll do. In spite of the funky dash, the Mk 8 drives brilliantly as seen is SG's previous video. Meanwhile, my '16 Mk 7 is serving me just fine.
@@johnstone7697 if you look at the big 3 in Europe, VAG, BMW, and Benz, they’re all going Haptic Touch with interiors. I’m sure they can make some improvements, but the core layout of the Mk8 and future VAG products are getting away from physical buttons. And from a numbers standpoint, yeah, even the 6MT Sport Touring HB has nothing on the GTI/R. That’s more in the Si/CTR variants. Sadly, Honda thinks that making an Si HB would interfere with CTR sales, so sedan only.
Just got a 22 Sport Touring Hatch this past weekend. It really is an outstanding, fun to drive vehicle with great features. The Bose sound system kicks!
@jeremyroper7273 I had a 10th gen and the 11th has a much better interior and highway manner the hatch has plenty of room for me and my kids to shop or travel, locating a 6 speed can be difficult my 23 was the only stick inside 150 miles
I haven’t been the kindest to the civic in recent years, I will say this new body style is very well done. I would never consider the last civic spaceship a looker. This looks good. Simple, with character.
@@Mr.Marbles SERIOUSLY! I felt like I was "too old" to be caught driving that gen. This one nails it. Plenty aggressive while being simultaneously mature looking. Honda just broadened its buying demographic by a LOT.
@@2WhiteAndNerdy the normal previous one looked already like the type r. It was way too wild. I guess its because the normal cars look way too sporty now so the actual sport models have to try so hard
Just bought one and now watching this. It was the first Honda I got drawn too and after a test drive I knew it was a budding relationship. Looks great, drives great. Love it.
I Actually don’t doubt it. Honda is pretty good at listening to criticism. Even with the smallest things like a volume knob. This is why Honda is my favorite automaker. I’m a mechanical engineer and worked in the auto industry and Honda is one of the brands that excels in every industry they go into. Electric generators, cars, motorcycles, power tools, marine, even airplanes.
no company is perfect and sometimes honda is frustrating (mostly because of acura), but they consistently have a great balance of affordability, quality, functionality, and fun. can't wait to own a ctr.
"Even the smallest things like a volume knob." It took Honda years of derision to finally bring the traditional volume knob back (and they probably hated to do so), while a simple tuning knob is still missing on most trim levels.
@@kenhoward3512 while it took them two years to make the change, they still did it. hell, they redesigned an entire civic after just one year based on complaints.
@@edgaryzen4925 I’m a big fan of Toyota too. However, Toyota doesn’t quite take as many risks (innovate) as Honda. And they are not in so many industries. The biggest risk Toyota has ever taken was the Prius. Other than that… nothing much really. I mean, the engine and transmission in the 4Runner (one of my favorite vehicles btw) has been around for about 2 decades now. I still love them what they are: reliable and fairly simple systems, but as an engineer I would like to see more innovation out of Toyota. Let’s hope they do.
Looks like a great product overall. The interior looks awesome. I love dashboards that are low and not a mile long. I also like dashboards that you won't hit your knee on every time you get in and out like the Corolla. The digital cluster not being garbage is fantastic. Metal honeycomb instead of crap plastic is also nice. Good visibility is also huge, part of why I love Subaru. Finally, offering a manual is just a cherry on top. Honda going back to tuning their cars for great driving and good usability is really the best move. I've been surprised at how expensive the Civic has gotten, but at least they're making it seem worth it.
I always adore the sections in reviews where car enthusiasts young and old praise the CVT so you can see them A) being impressed they actually said that with a straight face and B) trying to hold back their laughter/despair.
I don’t remember another car you guys have gushed over this much. Excited to get the chance to see one in person and test drive. Can’t wait to see the Si and Type R! I love this design inside and out. My first car was a 1978 Civic hatchback - yellow with the houndstooth interior, 5 speed, and wood steering wheel and shift knob. Wish I still had it. 😀
You DINOSAURS!🦖🦕 Just kidding. I'm envious although the first Civic was tiny! I had a 82 Accord with automatic for a while and it was keen! I was 16 and installed big subwoofer on the rear deck and got plastic hubcaps! I loved my sound systems. Who needs (engine) power when you have BASS???
The interior of this car is so far ahead of the competition. The gloss textured material looks high end, but doesn't suffer from fingerprints and scratches like the gloss black everyone else is obsessing with. This interior is going to age so much better than a lot of so-called luxury interiors with their gloss black everywhere and clunky touchscreens for climate control.
I am so happy you guys are driving the automatic. I really am happy that the manual option is available for people but so far, all the reviewers have been clinging to the manual when most of the shoppers (including myself) are going to be buying the automatic.
I have a 2021 Mazda3 Turbo Hatch and it definitely has enough room to haul almost anything. The turbo model also outperforms almost every other car in its price range as far as performance goes. My only complaint is I wish the suspension was tuned differently. It handles well, but something is just slightly off about how it takes corners
Honestly? With the exception of the straightahead speed that the 3 offers, in that one specific trim level, I’m not seeing anything that the 3 is dynamically capable of that outweighs how much better the civic is at utility. like yes I do dig the styling. But the styling isn’t so nice that it completely counteracts how good the interior of the civic is space wise. Or how the hatchback in the civic is actually useful. Or the fact that the civic has supreme ride handling balance. If you need I will drive and you need it in a car that sacrifices utility for the sake of, I can see somebody opting for the 3.
@@DainLaguna As a guy with no kids I never needed the space and the utility a Civic can offer and I do enjoy the exterior design of a 3 more. I really like the interior of both cars tho. I don't think the Civic has supreme ride handling balance, compared to a 3, but I guess that's also down to personal prefference
Woohoo! Putting in an order for a 6MT version stat. Seriously. THIS is the one I've been waiting for. I checked out a base model sedan (AT) at a local dealer and was highly impressed. Just needed a stick. Now we can have one!
In all honesty I would choose that intro music. I listened to it over and over 10 times. It’s fabulous. Good music is becoming the new signature of those geese. ;))
If y'all are not liking every video that the goose puts out, you need to get your brain checked because we all need to support this masterpiece of a channel.
I bought a 10th gen Si last December and I just love all the points and aggressive design. I personally am glad I didn't wait but this design will be more acceptable for waaaay more people.
I wish I was in the market for a car because I would definitely take a look at this. Reminds me so much of my old 2003 Hyundai Elantra GT that also had the unconventional fastback/sportback hatch design which I think has better aesthetics than the typical hatchback. Plus I like how it has more glass for visibility; I'm finding modern cars are sacrificing visibility for 'cooler' styling. And yes, being in my 40s, I hated the over-styling of the previous gen and wouldn't even consider it as an option, but this, while it doesn't really have a 'wow' factor, it's more digestible than some Anime-type design. I see good things here. Nice work as always, gents!
You guys in North America are lucky to have 2.0 litre naturally aspirated engines with a manual still on offer. In Europe, most of the new cars are 1.0-1.5 3cyl turbos with 100-150 hp...
The INTERIOR in this thing is amazing. Watching the video and being able to really get a good view of all the windows especially the rear hatch glass is VERY impressive. Still the Mazda 3 is on a slightly higher level. Turbo with AWD? If the 3 had this Hondas amazing interior it would be a home run.
I bought this exact car in a 2023 model. So far, my only complaint is a lack of storage in the cabin area. It looks great. Love the Continental tires! Amazing 12 speaker BOSE! It’s a great car! For reference, I’m 6 foot 215 and 48 years old
I bought the hybrid, no other option in Europe, and I’m 6,4 foot and 105 kg, 47 years old. It’s no cheap and here is not considered a small car. Accord is not sold in Europe since long time ago.
I recently saw a mid 90s Civic hatch next to a fairly new Civic sedan and I was shocked how tiny the older Civic was, or how big the Civic has gotten over the years.
Lets put this in perspective back in '00 / '01 I was in HS and bought a Civic SI (that beautiful blue) and was able to easily afford it + gas + insurance working a PT job. Now we are at the point where the base level civic is barely affordable for a normal working class family. It that doesn't tell you something about our economy, inflation, and standard of living I don't know what does.
One of the things that I loved so much about my old '87 Integra was the low cowl height and low beltline -- that improved visibility and gave the car a light, airy feel. It's nice to see that Honda still recognized the benefits that brings.
This video was exactly what I thought in my first Honda, a ‘99 Accord EX. It’s still running and used as a daily driver. Makes me happy that Honda’s still making some things right.
I was on the fence between the Honda Civic hatchback and the Mazda three hatchback This video clearly made up my mind the Honda Civic is the way to go Thank you for another great video
Old people buy hatchbacks too! :) They are God's gift to those who don't wanna have to buy a damn CUV/SUV (and all the compromises thereof) to carry around stuff, and have sedan-fun driving at the same time. Kinda wish you guys woulda driven the 1.5 turbo with manual trans for the driving enthusiasts (who also need a "common sense" car), and commented more on it's relative fun-to-drive-ness.
Negatives: 1 - Position of the headunit on the dashboard instead of being integrated into it. 2 - The C.V.T. instead of an 8 speed automatic or six speed manual. 3 - Stamped steel suspension instead of aluminum. 4- Hard headrests. I would go with the 2.0L and manual provided the oil and gas don't mix.
Ever since 2014 Mazda has set the "upscale" standard for interiors, many have wondered when the competition would catch up. I still prefer Mazda's exterior. Throw in its massive torque in turbo trim and it is still tough to beat, today. Side note: Consumer Reports did not like the road noise aspect of the new entry level Civic. It is among the highest of those in its class.
Speaking of color selection, I've been trying to find an EX sedan in Aegean Blue. When I searched nationwide the other day, I found all of 16 for sale. The end of the chip shortage can't come soon enough.
Looking forward to finding a Honda Civic hatchback manual. I love hatchbacks but being a "senior citizen" I just couldn't get myself to buy the prior generation since it was too (how do I say tastefully) "young" looking. :-) (Since 1982 I've had at least one or more Hondas in the driveway. Once they stopped the hatchback I had to go to SUV though.)
Young people are buying this because it's smaller and costs $5k less for what a CRV would cost. We also can live in it too since this costs as much as a house that our grandparents bought in the 50s and 60s.
I would consider this if it had an AWD option. This is a very nice put together car and looks practical too as family car. I actually like the styling better than the Mazda 3's.
"If you are over 30 you dont have to be ashamed to drivr this car" I am 41 and drive a race red 10th gen for 3 years now. Never got so many compliments about my (even more expensive) cars. I want a new car next year. Have seen the car this week in person for the first time. Still on the fence about it. Think its a bit boring. I dont think age should have anything to do with what you drive. I also drive a Hayabusa, heck my 70 year old uncle drives a tuned 3 series with 19 inch rims etc lol
I have been an Accord driver for nearly 8 years on and off. Today I purchased a new Sport Touring hatchback and holy crap it's pretty incredible. This car drives and rides just as good as an Accord yet it handles better since it's smaller. The interior is class leading and the design is handsome and clean. I've been really impressed by this car so far.
This thing combined with the Mazda 3's styling (while keeping the visibility) would be amazing. I also wish the back wasn't so raked back as it'd have even more utility.
I'd imagine "more utility" (this hatch *already* has plenty) is what Honda would intend their HR-V and CR-V for. They obviously were leaning more toward styling with this design - a smart move, I'd say, considering who they're aiming this anti-CUV at.
The Mazda is better looking, has a proper automatic and AWD. I'd be buying the Mazda. I have a Honda and a Mazda in the garage right now, so I'm not particularly brand loyal.
Subscribing to this channel years ago was the best thing I ever did. Your reviews are on a level that most other creators can only dream of. I mean, I watched an entire review on a frickin' Honda Civic - a car I could care less about, but your content is so well done and interesting, I couldn't turn away. Excellent work, gentleman. As always.
@@alexnutcasio936 Actually, no. I could care less about it if you gave me the chance. You attempting to correct my grammar is something I couldn't care less about.
I laughed out loud because you were reading my mind when you said "if your over 30 you wont be embarrassed to be seen driving it" I had a 1998 little civic hatchback that was great bot now im 51yo with wife and 2 kids. I really like the looks of this civic.
Nice review ! Thumbs up 👍 I’m happy to see the hatchback making its way back again, definitely gives a lot more versatility and practicality for all around usefulness. Love the manual option ( that’s the way I’d personally go ) I’m curious about the engine options though , the 2.0 @ 158 hp vs the 1.5 turbo charged @ 180 hp I think there’s better longevity and fuel economy with the 2.0 ? Perhaps less overall maintenance and ownership costs ( including initial purchase price ) I don’t know 🤷♂️ but I’d like to see your driving review final thoughts on the 2.0 manual hatchback .
I'm very very happy about the interior and exterior design and the retention of physical controls. Also extremely keen to see what the Si and R will be like. A low-key unobtrusive quick version of this car would be a perfect everyday do-everything machine for me
Coming from a 2013 Gli Jetta I'm ready to buy this car next year. I really don't need anymore power; actually to downgrade for my sake. The Civic is pretty light too. I daily drive 20 miles x 2 on backroads with deer and animals. I drive moderate most days and always mornings. I love the looks of the Civic Sport. Indeed has a touch of European to it 👌 Edit: Id still rather have a GTI manual but that's in the future.
With how good this car is, I can’t wait to see how the Type R turns out. Maybe this time around I can finally pick one up without a dealership foaming at the mouth asking $15k over MSRP.
Unfortunately I think that will be harder to accomplish now then when the 10th gen type R hit the market in 17'. Things have just gotten completely out of control. Everyone that bought one for markup fed into that.
i was already excited for this car, but seeing your guys review just made it even better. im definitely getting this no doubt! going for the sport trim!
Wry excited for this car. Love how the styling has been ‘matured’ and the fact you can get it as a 6 speed manual. Very interested in how the Si will drive and look. I come from a Honda family, and while most of us have moved into the Pilot and Odyssey’s phase of life, I’m still a die hard car guy.
So I actually build the new civic (non hatch) for North America. Usually you would expect some pretty big struggles when going into a model change but in my zone specifically (we do some interior bits with center console, seats etc) it was the best model change by far! We had less outflow (parts not set correctly, chips scratches etc) than we did with the mature outgoing model. That’s unheard of! And if you think it’s a bit ugly like I do, the Si fixes many of my complaints. I hope they go full agro like jack at a wine tasting with the type R.
I'm really impressed with how much quality and how many features they packed into this car, well done Honda. Now, give me that new Integra with the turbo 2.0L and SH-AWD and I might just consider selling my Golf R.
Needed a car for work that I’d be driving A LOT, and it needed to be safe, roomy, small outside, sporty and most of all fuel efficient. I opted for the sport touring CVT and let me tell you, just adding a Ktuner with a flash tune, it’s literally the perfect every day car now.
11:17 - Hmm, as a 41 year old who loves hatchbacks, I'm going to have to disagree. I think the 2022 Honda Civic hatchback looks miles better than the 2022 Mazda3 hatchback. But that's all subjective. As an overall package, I don't know which is better (only now starting to look around at new models that still offer manual), but out of all the newer hatchbacks the Civic definitely is one of the most appealing to me in the styling, only behind the Veloster N in terms of how much I like the looks, but for my daily usage a car like the Veloster N would be a waste.
The best new "small" car looks like a European Sportback SUV. Anyone else remember when small cars where actually small? Imma going to buy me a mint EK hatchback right now ;)
@@questioner1596 True, but the original Fit in NA was like a mini sports car and could outslalom a Ferrari, in addition to delivering great gas mileage and hauling a ton of stuff. But Fit was ultimately doomed due to its size and was replaced by the HR-V.
They described it as a 'small sedan' type vehicle in the video. It's not a micro-car but I'd challenge you to find anything smaller with the same passenger and luggage space.
Im actually really excited for alot of these new cars coming out. The Si, TypeR, Integra, 86/BRZ, 400z, WRX(although ugly), feels like one last push for out beloved combustion engines before the innevitable switch over to EVs
I have stated the same thing, this is the swan song era of traditional cars probably ending by 2030. Then there will be 0.5 / 1.0L cars that last 3 years tops because of all the EPA demands, quickness of getting electric models to market with more and more inefficient batteries that konk out.
i just put down half a deposit on one of these today (sport touring hatchback) and im coming out of a 3 year lease on a 2019 accord EX i loved my accord but i simply didnt need anything that big im super excited for my car to get here just need to wait for it to arrive run a credit check and then sign it all up im pumped im also getting alot more out of this car than on my old accord. great review im truly psyched to get mine
