I thoroughly researched both vehicles for approximately 2 months and while the RAV4 is the undisputed king in this segment, we ended up purchasing the Tucson. Both were similarly priced but my wife and I felt the Tucson presented more features in a more upscale sense. The RAV4 screams take me off-roading with its rugged looks, both in and out. The Tucson was in our opinion more refined. It’s much quieter and the ride is excellent. While the RAV4 provided more mileage, the Tucson isn’t a slouch either with its 37 MPG rating. I in particular am not a fan of CVT transmission and love the Tucson’s 6 speed auto. What finally prompted us to buy the Tucson is the way it looks. It’s just so much better looking, exterior and interior, in our opinion. Never had a Hyundai but the extended warranty gave us peace of mind for sure.
@@sammyjammy6647 very very good so far. Only annoying issue is that gawd awful back-up warning noise. I will likely disable it somehow, but man is it annoying. We picked up the SEL Convenience which we felt was all we can afford, but given the options included, we're extremely happy. Ride is a tad too soft for my taste (comparing it to my 2017 VW GTI, lol) but overall, it's been great.
@@joelm3954 I am driving Sonata for last 8 years and was debating between Rav4 and Tuscon. I agree with what you think. Look and interior are better in Tuscon. My kids like look of Tuscon, so I have to go with it no matter what. :)
I chose the rav4 personally but I can agree with you on it being a more rugged vehicle. I feel the Tucson is more comparable to a luxury car as RAV4 May be closer to a ford or jeep.
I have a RAV4 Hybrid and I really wish I had bought a Tucson Hybrid instead. When I drive the RAV4, I feel like I have to constantly check if my window glasses are open or the panoramic roof is open because that's how bad the cabin noise is when I drive in the highways. The back seat interior definitely seems cramped and while I know it's a solid vehicle that will take me from point A to point B, is very reliable, has a lot of experience in Hybrids and will command a good resale value, I wouldn't buy it if given a second chance.
I’ve owned a Sonata since 2008, zero problems. But buying a hybrid I went with Toyota. Proven track record with hybrid technology. Hyundai is still new to the game.
I am over six foot tall. I bought the Tucson over Rav 4 because I felt they were near equal quality and fit more comfortable in the Tucson. I have 6,200 miles a little over 10k km. Average about 37 mpg. Nice ride
I have a RAV4 Hybrid in Australia and Toyota give a 5 year warranty, $210.00 Au per service, plus a 10 year warranty on the hybrid battery, so it was a no brainer. We love the car.
Two other factors to consider for folks. They have different AWD systems. The RAV4 is more FWD with rear wheel assist when needed. There can be some delay when it kicks in. It’s AWD system is decent when it does kick in but it’s more aggressive Trail mode, which improved AWD performance in this newer model, is not supposed to be used except for in limited spots off road. Hyundai has a more ever present system. That’s partly how the RAV4 gets its mpg improvement over the Tucson and CRV systems. It’s a trade off. Second, the Tucson has noticeably more second row space both in knee room and foot room. The RAV4 isn’t very satisfying in its second row space. But it’s overall reliability and the reliability and longevity of its hybrid systems is hard to beat.
Agree about leg room in second row in the Hyundai. Dislike the capacitive touch and like a spare tire in Hyundai. Unknown if gas tank issue with the RAV4 hybrid has resolved
@@rencpharmd8987 The capacitive touch isn’t an issue on lower trims in both the US and Canada, which are otherwise well equipped overall. There’s a nice mix of physical controls and capacitive buttons on those 8 inch displays.
@@rencpharmd8987 Alex on Autos in his first drive of the Tucson Hybrid pointed out that you could fit a spare tire in the underfloor if desired. It adds weight and reduces mpg which is why many makers seem to be dropping them.
agreed. Depends on what one is looking for in an AWD. I think the driveshaft to the rear in the Tucson may be a big part of the lower fuel efficiency of the Tucson over the RAV4. The AWD in the Tucson being engaged when accelerating from a standstill was nice, no wheel spin on wet pavement. Electric motors on rear wheels is fewer moving parts, which may (I don't know for sure) be more reliable in the long run.
I have owned 2 Hyundais...2002 Santa Fe (19 yrs) purchased and put all 200,000+ miles on it...car heaven summer 2021. And a used (like new 66,000 mi.) 2008 Hyundai Entourage, now 192,000+ miles and still riding....I can't complain! Looking at 2002 Tucson SEL Convenience Hybrid.
I am on my second Hyundai Sonata (5 years old now) and my son is still driving the 11 year old Sonata. So I agree that they are reliable and low maintenance. My main worries are a first model year of a car and the turbo engine reliability. In my experience Hyundai has been good about warranty fixes though.
well lucky you, or unlucky me, I had a 2012 Hyundai Azera......that one had a love relation with the garage. Problems started after the first year. At a certain moment I stopped counting how many times it went back, and decided to part ways. Although all the trouble I have to admit, the Hyundai service was always top notch, due to the excellent service I may consider the 2022 Tucson as my next car.
The math is currently different around me. A RAV4 Hybrid with the cross-traffic safety alert and blind-spot monitor ($680 option) is $1000 more in MSRP than the base Tucson Hybrid Blue trim. Plus, there are Hyundai dealers that don't have a markup while the lowest markup at a nearby Toyota dealer is $3000. That makes the Hyundai $4000 less.
When I buy a new vehicle, I expect to get a hell of a lot more than 5 years out of it. With a Toyota, you can probably easily get 10, 15 years or more without any major problems with the proper maintenance. With a Hyundai you would be lucky to not have something expensive go while under warranty, and a whole lot more go after. And another important point that others have made...there is no such thing as a "bumper to bumper" warranty. If you believe the person trying to give you that warranty, you are as stupid as they are audacious. Read the fine print and the weasel clauses.
The Tucson has a traditional automatic transmission so you dont have to deal with that droning cvt sound like you do in the rav4 and the tucson also had a REAL mechanical all wheel drive system as opposed to the rav4 electrically powered rear that runs out of juice rather quickly when using it. More rear seat room for car seats in the Tucson as well. And a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty for the hyundai is a def plus. I'm following owners pages for both on fb because I was GENUINELY about to buy a rav4 hybrid. If you look at owner's complaints for the rav4 they range on all kinds of issues that Toyota should NOT be manufacturing a vehicle with in 2021! The gas tank issue, the fact that the battery ends up dead and the car cant be started because there is a drain on the system when parked and off for more than a day (an issue that the Tucson wont have because they made work around to use the hybrid battery for start up if need be), flimsy side mirrors that wiggle at highway speeds, the fact that the interior buttons dont light up for night driving, the fact that the tech is dated as hell with terrible quality cameras for backing etc I could go on and on. The issue is Toyota pumped out a vehicle with too many rookie mistake issues. I love toyota and have owned several in the past and had no complaints. I've also owned hyundai/kias- it's just that for THIS particular comparison, Tucson hybrid beats out Rav4 hybrid on everything except mpg and resale value.
Having owned a Toyota with that CVT transmission I would never buy another one, its noisy and keeps the engine revving especially on long uphill climbs. A drive in the Tucson sold me, quite and smooth. Plus that superb interior, a great place to be.
Personally I think you’re full of it. What engine doesn’t keep revving as it’s going uphill? Is there a new spaceship Drive that I’m not aware of? All engines are hitting higher RPMs as they’re going uphill. You and the 9 people that liked your comment are silly
@@sammyjammy6647 You obviously have no idea about the difference between a normal automatic gearbox and the way a CVT gearbox works otherwise you wouldn’t make such a stupid comment. A CVT gearbox is undoubtedly slightly more efficient and is fine around town, but I could not stand it on a long run and had to sell my Toyota after living with it for only one year. Try the two of them out and you might understand!
@@aussiedeplorable8670 He Is undoubtedly ignorant and does not know what he speaks of and hasn’t responded from a month ago. Because my experience with the Toyota ECVT is not what he’s describing. And he has yet to clarify what model year he had his experience with and was it a CVT or an ECVT
Tucson! I bought the Limited Hybrid in white. Like all the reviews say, it drives great, has the best in class interior and tech, has a real transmission that shifts, and has power when you want it and fuel sipping when you don't. And it just looks bad ass!
@@larrynorcott1477 Don't be sorry. Both are good buys and very competitive but the Tucson is a better choice overall and like I said, most every professional review ranks it better overall. Hyundai's quality has been at or near the top and it blows away Toyota's minimal warranty. I've been in the car business for 40 years and I appraise cars so I know way better than most as to what is a good value.
@@karlkrell5882 is it really minimal though? Toyota offers 10 years 150,000 miles on its hybrid battery. All other hybrid components are 8 years 100,000 miles. That’s not minimal. What is the comparison in resale value over 5 years? What will be the long term reliability if you decide to keep it past the payments? Toyota has a better record in this regard while the 2022 Tucson is a first year redesign. I can’t gamble with my hard earned money. I’ll take the rav4 and after a few years of ownership I’ll research how the Hyundai has held up
Your review is good,but lacking in one respect. You don't mention the AWD systems and the pros and cons of each. To me, the interior of the Tucson is the winner, however, I do have reservations about the lack of buttons for controls. I do agree with you that I would find that as distracting while driving. The Tucson is feature packed with more HP and Torque, heated and ventilated front seats, higher end stereo system, terrific digital graphics, and a 10 year / 100,000 mile powertrain AND Hybrid battery Warranty
The Tucson has buttons on steering wheel and if we set up before we take off. We should NOT, PRAYFULLY while driving, try to manipulate touchscreen. Also, we use touchscreen phones, computers, and tablets daily, why so much flack about a car radio? I just giving my 2 cents.
I bought the Tucson Luxury Hybrid a few months ago and love it. We looked at both the RAV4 and the Venza but didn't need to do much more than sit in them to decide they weren't for us. The interior space felt more cramped (narrower) than the Tuson and 2021 Rogue we also test drove. The only vehicle we looked at that still makes me wonder if we should have chosen that instead for the additional room and similar price is the 2021 Sante Fe Luxury Hybrid.
@@markkennedy5335 And after 6 months, my Tucson Hybrid is still the best vehicle I have ever owned. Zero issues and no recalls so far. And Consumer Report currently scores the Tucson Hybrid above the RAV4. My comment is for people looking for an alternative to the the RAV4 and wants an opinion from someone who owns one. Not for someone who has obviously already made up their mind and not looking to try anything else. Enjoy your RAV4.
and if 6.5 L/100 km instead of 6.0L/100 is not important. The Toyota is more fuel efficient too. Not that the difference in fuel economy is an issue for me. Hybrids are all way better in the city than my gas cars.
I have the Hybrid Tucson. I live in Northern British Columbia and have done a few trips through the mountains as well muddy mountain roads,.all with no issues. The Tucson may not scream ruggedness but it sure performs!
In terms of long term realibity.. In a 3rd world country where im from...Toyota cars is the flagship car of my country bcoz it was already proven a decades of service, low cost maintenance,parts availability ( cheapest)...But other than that ..for now no one can beat that reputation...
You should compare the Honda CRV hybrid with the Toyota Rav4 Hybrid. TFL compared these two and tested their all wheel drive capability. The results were surprising as the Honda won the off-road test. Plus the Honda has more room and offers a smooth ride.
Only if resale is important. But the longer you own a car the less difference in resale. Reliability? That is yet to be seen. Hyundai's are pretty reliable.
But you mentioned the top issues that I have been struggling with. I am on my second Hyundai Sonata and I am quite satisfied with Hyundai (both the dealership and reliability). But a turbo engine and first model year are big concerns. The biggest concern about the RAV4 seems to be how loud and noisy it is. But proven reliability is high on the list. It will be a difficult decision. With current high car prices due to chip shortages I may just wait a year. But it looks like it is hard to get great deals on hybrids due to high demand and low availability? So I test drove the Hyundai Tucson Luxury hybrid (the model I am interested in) and the Toyota RAV4 Limited Hybrid (I am interested in the XLE trim). Very tough choices. The RAV4 is a bit louder and a touch less peppy than the Tucson. But not overly so. The Toyota has smaller displays. Bigger is better for backup cameras. The digital gauges on the Tucson are very nice. The Tucson is a bit roomier. But the RAV4 wasn't bad. I like the look of both vehicles from the outside. But looks are very subjective. The RAV4 is made in Canada, whereas the Hyundai is not. Also a factor. The 5 year warranty on the Hyundai is appealing. But it is the first model year. And in my experience all cars have a few bugs to work out in the first model year. Very difficult decision The proven reliability of the RAV4 is a very big plus. How proven is the Tucson 1.6L turbo? The salesperson says they have that engine in other vehicles. So is it proven? And the AWD drive on the Hyundai is via a driveshaft, which is a mechanical aspect that may affect reliability. The RAV4 AWD is via rear electric motors. A little slower to engage but possibly more reliable? I only need AWD a few times in the winter. So the lag will likely not be an issue. Given the long waits for one of these cars in the model I would want (3-4 months), and lack of discounts due to the computer chip shortages, I will probably wait another year before buying. My current cars are still in very good shape. Gives the Hyundai a chance to work out any first year bugs.
Check out the Venza. It is a bit longer than Rav4 with slightly less space inside for some reason. The ride I heard is quieter than Rav4. The XLE model of Venza is priced close to the Limited model of Tucson. It uses a Lithium battery. Venza is Rav4 in the inside with Lexus looks.
@@aliceandcat2228 honestly, until the lithium ion batteries have a proven track record I’ll stick with the nickel metal hydride battery in the RAV4. You have priuses with half a million or more miles using nickel on record. Look it up.
@@sammyjammy6647 yes, because all 1st owners still drive priuses with half mil miles. Half of that prius will fall apart at half mil miles even if some odd battery pack here and there can last that long. I had prius, great car but this is silly argument. Some camries in the same model year uses Li-ion, some use Ni. Both are doing just fine.
We have a RAV4 Limited Hybrid on order. Loaded with the Tech & Weather Packages plus the Pano-Roof. The build date will be March 14th. Looking forward to it. We have rented RAV4's from our Dealership for the last 3 years and have enjoyed them. (appox 2 weeks per rental) For me to rent a vehicle for a week or two is a lot better then a Test Drive. Also FWIW the RAV4 we ordered is NOT being marked up. We will pay Sticker Only. The owner of the dealerships (he owns two) refuses to mark up their vehicles. He is Old School and believes in the Long Dollar. Another reason we stick to Toyota for our vehicles is the Service Department. This to me is a more important factor then any 'deal' you can get. Everyone needs service. I realize not all dealerships are equal. There are 'bad' Toyota dealerships too but, we are fortunate to have a good one to do business with.
One advantage that the Tucson hybrid has over the RAV4 hybrid is its panoramic roof, while the Toyota only offers a regular sized sunroof. Also, the Tucson has push button gear selector while the RAV4 has an old fashioned gear selector that occupies space. However, I would probably choose the Toyota because of it’s more user friendly controls and it’s normally aspirated engine that is more durable and reliable in the long run.
While reliability and retail values are important, it's also a conversation ripcord. No other hybrid SUVs will ever compare to Toyotas and Lexus when it comes to that. It doesn't matter if the Tucson offers way more features for the same money like leather and ventilated seating surfaces, pano sunroof, better driving assist, wireless Android Auto/Apple Carplay, wireless charging (only available on RAV4 top trim and tech package), smart lift gate. So how is the RAV4 better in "value for money"? If the reviewer can't compare these things objectively and just take out Toyota's reliability as the reason for everything, what's the point of doing a comparison?
I agree. The Rav 4 interior is so dated . Insignificant mpg difference, more room in the Tucson in every area, cargo, front, and rear seating. Way more tech features. Tremendous warranty which kills your biased argument. I’ve had multiple Toyotas and Hyundais, and this particular one, which I own belongs in a higher class of suv. I also own a 2021 BMW X3 which has a different personality, but is not a significantly better value.
I get what you're saying. For most consumers, however, reputation for reliability, cost of repair, resale value, and price are the most important car buying criteria. Everything else is secondary. If you remove those things from the conversation then the review has little to no value to many buyers
@@carhelpcorner yea I get your point of view too. But if you choose to focus on that, then what could the Tucson, or any other brand's SUVs for that matter, possibly offer to offset Toyota's track record and reputation? Even incredibly well built luxury brands don't have anywhere near the reliability record of Hyundai, let alone Toyota.
@@benjaminnhlam2867 You make a very valid point. The reviewer also seems to have a severe bias against turbo engines. Turbo engines have been around for decades, they aren’t new. Higher complexity does not necessarily mean less reliable. At the end of the day, Toyota is simply a better known brand and people tend to gravitate to what they know. I recently bought a Tucson Hybrid and still waiting delivery (2 months and running). According to the dealership, Hyundai just can’t make them fast enough, like the Kia Telluride. While I still believe Toyota makes more “reliable” cars, I also believe I’ll be able to drive the Tucson relatively trouble free for the number of years I am planning to drive it. For those years, I want to drive a car that is more polished, better technology, more safety features and overall, better equipped. For the money I paid, you cannot get leather seating that is both heated and ventilated with other cars. While value can be subjective, it can also be quantifiable. I just think Tucson hybrid gives me more bang for the buck. Don’t get me wrong, I think Rav4 is a fantastic car. It just doesn’t wow me, unfortunately.
All of your opinion are value to me so much, and I believe that the perfect car is hard to find. At the end of the day what purpose that car is used for. Personally i like rav4 more, the only thing that holds me back is the noise from the cabin and cvt transmission.
I wish people would stop buying the current generation Tucson. I enjoy being that person with the best looking vehicle on the road. Unfortunately, I keep seeing more and more everywhere. So now I’m going to have to step up my game and get my roof wrapped 😆
The Tucson plug in is going to destroy the awesome Toyota prime plug in due to dealer costs or should I say dealer price gouging due to the newly increased tax rebate in part.
"Turbos tend to be a bit more problematic down the road, in terms of long term reliability." Please expand on that? If you're not modifying or boosting the crap out of them like in a play thing (Mitsu/Mazda/Subaru/Toyota/Ford), they are no different than any other component in the engine compartment. 30 years ago, maybe. But the past 15-20 years, they still work well.
Hyundai wins here with better luxury, high tec, large cabin room and AT transmission, hyundai turbo is much better than VW etc. Build quality, safety, reliability wise Hyundai is better as well.
this video was Hyundai vs Toyota. Where does VW come in? I like the Hyundais I have owned, and I agree that they are safe, reliable and high quality. But why do you think they are more safe, more reliable or better quality than the equivalent Toyotas? Are there statistics to back that up? Recent Toyota hybrids appear to have a very good track record.
Thanks for the review Shari. I am looking to replace my 2019 Toyota RAV4 Adventure for a new 2022 Hybrid SUV. The contenders are Honda CR-V, Ford Escape and Hyundai Tucson. I have test-driven all of them and they are all impressive. Your excellent reviewing have helped me understand and appreciate the differences. The main reason is that I am going Hybrid. My husband and I are and older couple and he is struggling to get in and out of the RAV4. I also don't need the off road features of the RAV4 because I have no desire to get my car on the mud, sand, rocks, etc. It is a fun car, for sure! As you mentioned, I found out that in any of the options I have, I will have to order my car which will take up to 6 month to arrive. These are the times we are living and we have to make the best of it. At the time of this comment I am inclining more towards the Hyundai Tucson because of the extended warranty, the performance and elegant style. So...the wait is on!
Tucson is just 200 dollars more than the RAV according to websites. Worth it IMO for the tech, styling, and 10 year warranty. With incentives I bet it will be less than the Toyota.
Don’t let the 10 year warranty fool you, had some issues with engine starters, O2 sensors and underbody panels falling due to rust. All of these are not covered by warranty.
Just couple of my cents here: first of all, lets cut the crap about Toyata's reliability - check the stats and reviews and stop presenting information that was true 20 years ago. How can you say that car, that has full manufacturers 5 years warranty is less reliable than car that has 2 years warranty? Have you recently owned Toyota? Have you seen recent quality reports from Toyota owners? If Toyota is so reliable, why it is not giving warranty equal to Hyundai? If they never break in high numbers, that would cost them nothing, wouldn't it? Another thing is the fact that it will be easier to sell Toyota in secondary market. If that is most selling compact SUV, this means that the competition will be higher. So it will be more difficult to sell it for a good price, because of huge amount of alternative listings. However I do agree that a lot of people still live with Toyota quality myth, but even they will think what should they buy 3 year old Tucson with still valid 2 year manufacturers warranty or 3 year old RAV4 that has no warranty at all. And the third part is the price. Somehow we tend to believe that Korean made cars should be cheaper than legacy brands. That was true 10 years ago, however since then Hyunday/Kia made a huge step forward in quality, reliability, design and technology. As a result they are delivering better quality and more futuristic products then many other known car brands and this comes with the higher price. So assumption that Tucson MUST be cheaper than RAV4 is again based on reality that is gone 10 years ago. Why would the item that offers better functionality, reliability, warranty should be cheaper than less delivering item?
@@burprobrox9134 Yeap, my lips are covered, that is why I can't hear stuff. Typical thinking & logic of Toyota owners, not the sharpest knifes in the kitchen :))))
Doesn't the turbo charged engine require high octane fuel? Seems to me like that reduces the amount of savings the hybrid version will provide. With the added cost of the hybrid version and requirement to use a more expensive fuel, what advantage is there to buying the hybrid Tucson?
The Tucson over the Rav4. Rav4 is too bland. Reliability on newer cars/suvs is all subjective. No one knows how they will last. Toyota is selling their name and history while Brands like Hyundai and Kia are pushing the car evolution with better tech and performance.
But the name and history is all you need to get value for your money when you decide to sell or trade it in. All cars depreciate but I choose to get more value for my money by buying a vehicle that depreciates slower than the rest.
@@sammyjammy6647 depends if you are wanting to trade or sell it or use it for 10-15 years. A car is a luxury not an investment. I choose the latter as there are better things to waste money than a vehicle.
Main controls are on the steering wheel - Touch buttons mainly for setup and or the passenger. Plus with Android Auto or Apple Carplay you don't really need them.
Quick question- Which one will give better MPG if I have to drive longer trips like 200-300 miles at a stretch? Normal Hybrid or Plugin Hybrid? I am not considering to buy fully electric at this time because of charging station issue. The car in my mind is Hyundai Tucson or SantaFe or Toyota RAV4. Thanks in advance.
The benefit of a plug-in hybrid is mostly for short distance driving where you can maximize the electric range that they offer ( 25-35 miles without any gas). If you do mostly long distance driving then a regular hybrid is perfectly fine.
Hi, what would you choose between the Tucson Hybrid ultimate or the RAV4 hybrid XSE with technology package? The RAV4 is $2500 more and the wait time for both is about 12 months? Looking to keep the suv at least 10 years or more. Only thing that worries me about the Tucson is their engine issues over the years. TIA
How about a little off road comparison, acceleration and braking performance, and a view of the interior cargo space (seats up and down)? I did like your mention of problematic turbo's, hopefully more manufacturer's are learning how to improve their dependability (no one accept Mercedes has proven to get the right, so far). If Hyundai's longer warrantee covers it, that helps.
I had a 2015 Elantra, and my engine went on it. I want to trade my 2019 Ford Escape in for a hybrid, which I have issues with. I'm thinking of going back to Hyundai. The Tucson looks nice, and good warranty. Just nervous if I do, I don't want another bad car.
i think you can easily have the same peace of mind with Hyundai's warranty, if that's the sort of thing that keeps a person up at night. BUT, for everyday driving experience, to me my limited HYBRID wins hands down. And the 3 years FREE maintenance/oil changes is no small bag of peanuts! The interior look & feel of the tech, the drive, the Blind Spot View Cameras (which you ONLY spoke of but didn't demonstrate), the Remote Parking feature, could easily be a deal breaker for some. I know it was FOR ME : ) Good comparison! BTC
A few points... How is reliability determined? By any normal metrics, the current-generation Rav4 has proven to be highly unreliable for Toyota, which is ranked as merely Average to Below Average by Consumer Reports, and JD Power doesn't recommend it due to its slew of well-documented issues regarding battery drainage, fuel-tank underfilling, floppy mirrors, glitchy electronics, etc. The flipside is that its hybrid system has essentially proven to be bombproof. The transmission never breaks, and Toyota's warranty for the battery system is 50% longer than Hyundai's. Meanwhile, Hyundai's over-reliance on touch-capacitive, complex, expensive-to-repair electronics means that they absolutely better offer a longer comprehensive warranty, but then you also have to hope that they will have a timely fix/parts availability for their all-new, first-year model. Many a Hyundai owner has been left unsatisfied by Hyundai's inability to provide immediate solutions to their myriad software-based issues. Say what you will about whiz-bang gizmos, but in the end simple is always better when it comes to long-term cost of repairs. So, probably the only sure-thing here is that the Toyota's engine and tranny will prove more durable and trouble-free than the Hyundai's. It has already proven itself over many millions of miles, which leads me to my next point... People need to stop parroting this nonsense that the Rav4 Hybrid's eCVT is garbage, a dealbreaker, or anything of the sort. 99% of the time, these people are simply uninformed. They think the Rav4 Hybrid's eCVT works the same as that of the CVT in a Nissan Altima, or any of the other conventional CVT's about which they've read so many horror stories. The eCVT in the Toyota is a CVT in name only. Otherwise, it shares no components or design elements with Toyota's own CVT in the Corolla, never mind the CVT's used by any other manufacturer. It doesn't use belts, pulleys, or any of that crap. It's not even an actual transmission, per se. It's not a CVT; at least, not as you think of one. It's also proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be more reliable than nearly any conventional torque-converter transmission currently on the market, including the 8-speed conventional tranny in the non-hybrid Rav4 and Camry. Lastly, one thing no one ever seems to talk about unless it has to do with Volkswagen is direct injection, and the fact the the Tucson Hybrid (not the non-hybrid/non-turbo Tucson) is not only turbo charged, but also direct injected. It offers no secondary port injection, similar to Toyota's dual-injection D-4S system. Over time, this lack of port injection means that the Hyundai's engine WILL develop excessive carbon gunking on the back of the valves, while the Toyota's won't. Most people are completely unaware of the correlation between modern direct injection and carbon buildup. It's there. It's real. It's going to happen. If you own a car with a direct-injection motor, you're going to have to deal with it eventually. Toyota has thus far refused to give in to the desire for higher performance/better fuel economy at the risk of long-term engine reliability. This is why they offer no direct-injected motors or turbos (other than the BMW-built Supra motor), and only one CVT, and even that CVT has a conventional first gear built into the system. It comes down to how you measure reliability, and most of those answers remain unknown. There is no way to know how reliable the Hyundai's first-year advanced electronics and turbo/hybrid/direct-injected motor will hold up once you're past the warranty period, which, for an Uber driver, means only two years. We do know that the basic hard parts of the Toyota have proven to be the most reliable on the market, while the rest of the car has similarly proven to be beset with a plague of very un-Toyota-like quality issues. At least we do know that the Hyundai is much quieter, smoother, roomier, more comfortable, luxurious, and faster, with much higher-level tech, and its shifting feels "normal." We know that the Toyota gets a bit better fuel economy, has more ground clearance, far superior resale value, and will be cheaper and easier to repair. Knowing all this, you're left with weighing the unknowns. In the end, you still choose your favorite, plunk down your money, hope for the best, and go on the internet to rationalize your purchase! Go on with your bad selves.
first the hybrid tucson has dual port like toyota.. second hyundai has its own steel and it considered one of the best so the components and materials in Tucson are first rate 3rd rav4 is full of shitty major problems even in europe and you compare the software problems that almost all fixed by an update, hyundai blew its name with that Theta engine that made up by alabama fctory probably because the workers there are not careful with their work so we value hyundai because it had one black sheep. rest of the powertrains proven kings of reliability with high mileage on them. also in europe hyundai is in the top 3 more reliable brands they just dont break.
@@mpampismaniatis7634 The Tucson Hybrid motor is not the same as the base motor, which does use both direct and port injection. The hybrid motor uses a turbo and direct injection only. No port injection. It's going to get carbon build-up. Check their website.
@@mpampismaniatis7634 I already delineated the Rav4 Hybrid's myriad issues. The thing about the Toyota's problems is that none of them threaten long-term reliability/durability. They're mainly just small oversights and annoyances. The Tucson Hybrid's reliance on direct injection only ensures that the valves will suffer from carbon build-up. They will gunk up, and the owner will have to deal with the result. It's going to happen. There's no getting around it. Also, with such a tiny motor fed by a turbo, I don't think anyone who is being honest expects the Tucson Hybrid's new powerplant to last anywhere near as long as the Toyota's well-proven hybrid mill will. Additionally, good luck fixing the Tucson's touch-capacitive infotainment when it glitches or breaks, which it definitely will, sooner or later. It's going to be expensive to fix, and the system covers so many basic functions. Not good. Another thing that isn't good is how horrible the center console and center stack will look very shortly after buying the car, due to all that piano black. It's going to get scratched up almost immediately, on top of showing every fingerprint, smudge, and spec of dust. Piano black is the scourge of any new interior, and Hyundai went berserk with the stuff in the new Tucson.
really? I thought it was a fair narrative. Overall the Tucson seems to be better. But the new model does not yet have a proven a track record. And turbo charged engines are mechanically more complex and push the engine more to get the performance gains over a normally aspirated engine. Toyota's RAV4 is a leading seller. And Toyota has a long history of delivering hybrids. They have corrected a lot of problems over the years. It really depends on what the driver is looking for in a vehicle. If the Tucson hybrid proves to be reliable then it will be the clear winner. But that is not 100% guaranteed. I am strongly leaning towards the Tucson. But I think I will wait a year before I decide for sure.
@@richardkirchknopf2215 No, op is right. If you watch any of his videos, the 2 common themes are turbo engines are unreliable (totally untrue and complexity does not equate to unreliability) and perceived (yes, perceived) relative quality and resale value trump everything else. So, basically, the comparison is over before it starts because he believes Toyota is more reliable and nothing beats that.
@@mindmeld98 exactly, I am watching his videos from last month and he has to say the same thing in each and every video that Toyota is reliable and Turbo sucks. I think he has a template of videos that he adds to all of his videos. Seems he gets money from Toyota
My local Hyundai dealer has responded to the car/chip shortage by making outrageous "Market Adjustments" on their cars. Tucson hybrid has been marked up to about 50% more than MSRP. I would rather avoid this company all together and will stick with companies that do not take advantage of their customers.
I had a Rav4 on order but Toyota kept pushing back the delivery (12 months from point of order) So I cancelled the Rav4 and after extensive research and test driving I ordered a Hybrid Tuscon instead (only a 3 month wait) . I am so glad that I have changed the order, The Tuscon was a better drive and design wise, the interior of the Tucson is miles better than the Rav 4. This is the weakest part of the Rav4, It looks like a car designed 5+ years ago. Functional yes, but up to date no. Yes, Toyota do have a better reputation for longevity and reliability but here in the UK both manufactures offer a 5 Year warranty from new, maybe a different story if you are buying outside of the warranty period with Toyotas new 10 year service warranty that they offer on any Toyota under 10 years old, but most people here in the UK change cars every 3-4 years so not really a factor if you are buying from new. Toyota has a better residual value but that is offset by the higher purchase price. I like the Rav4 but Toyota need to up their game with their interiors as they are stuck in the past and are now being left behind by nearly every other manufacture.
RAV4 is meant for its reliability, safety, mpgs and best resale value and long lasting with least maintenance costs. I dont think Tucson is anywhere near in those terms.
Honestly you have to try both and judge for yourself. Reliability definitely goes to toyotas eCVT tho, it has been finely tuned for decades now and is smooth.
Hyundai Tucson Hybrid - added reliability risk of a turbo and old style, far more complex, transmission. The Rav4 planetary transmission is simpler and looks more robust. Also, no spare tire on the Tucson Hybrid! For an off-road capable vehicle that's insane! As for the Rav4 Prime, it's nearly unavailable outside of the 12 States that implemented some form of California's zero emissions regulations. Meanwhile the Tucson PHEV simply isn't on the dealership lots (yet). If I were an urban driver, looking to keep my vehicle less than 10 years, I would risk the Tucson Hybrid. Otherwise the Rav4 Prime is worth the hassle of shipping from out-of-State. If you want the 'luxury vibe' you can buy the Venza Hybrid. Personally, though, I prefer the styling of the Tucson and the competence of the electronics/software packages. But now I have the Rav4 Prime... well it's the boss of both Hybrids, and then some!
I think of the Tucson less as an off-road vehicle. It has at least an inch less ground clearance and is designed and equipped more for luxury than ruggedness. So I would be less likely to use a Tucson for off road. Maybe just slightly rougher back roads on the odd occasion. There also seems to be a group that really prefer a regular transmission over CVT. They will buy it for that reason. The Tucson is coming out with a plug-in hybrid this year as well. But not everybody has access to plug-in power. So plug-in is not an option for everybody. But having test driven both the Tucson hybrid and the Toyota RAV4 hybrid, I could happily live with either of them. Having the extra power of a plug-in would be icing on a cake. But I think either of these hybrids is a better substitute for the urban small SUV owner than a gas version. Hybrid SUV is definitely the way to go for my next vehicle.
@@richardkirchknopf2215 Thank you for a considered reply. I agree with the points you raise with two minor observations. First, most PHEV's can charge off 110V including the Prime and, I assume, the upcoming Tucson PHEV. The Prime takes over 12 hours to completely recharge off the 110V cable. Fortunately for me, I had the garage wired for 220V when it was built, so I can recharge in 4.5 hours (The Prime XSE can recharge in 2.5 hours). For me the primary value of the 110V is for running the Prime in 'home' mode. Second, the Prime does not have a belt-driven CVT. Instead it uses a planetary gear set which also serves to couple power from the gas motor. The effective ratio of the transmission 'gears' is controlled by the generator/motor. Thanks to the ingenuity of this solution, and its simplicity, I expect the transmission will last a long time. The Prime uses the same configuration as the Hybrid but with a more powerful motor. I must admit I would not choose a CVT if I could avoid it - the reason is I want to keep my car a long time (at least until electric cars achieve the required range/recharge time and cost). CVT's should easily last 100K miles but after that? Not sure. As I understand it, the transmission in the Tucson Hybrid is considered to be very reliable. Time will tell!
Tucson owners will be hating life when the turbo charger breaks and they have to dismantle the engine to clean all the carbon buildup from the direct fuel injection system. The RAV is the only way to go for reliability and durability.
I have a 2016 Sonata & love the value, peformance & ecconomy....but the 2022 Tuscon is a No-No for me due to the Infotainment-heater system's lack of physical buttons. I found that I HAD to look down while driving. If they went for a more traditional set of buttons for the essential controls I wouldn't hesitate, but I can't take the safety risk. My guess is that this will get changed, I certainly hope so.
I have owned several brand new Hyundai’s two of them with well over 200,000 miles zero issues that is why the warranty is so big do not buy a Toyota just because they say they are more reliable I don’t believe that for a second
Toyota fanboys are living under a myth that no Toyota ever breaks and every Hyundai breaks. Folks, Hyundai/Kia has come a long way and once you drive and feel Hyundai/Kia cars, you won’t like Toyota at all. Exceptional value for your $.
Resale, Resale, Resale. Never mentioned because Hyundai is the worst. Toyota wins on this alone. Go Rav4. I have owned 6 Toyotas no problems. Great resale.
Please answer this question : Your rich uncle is going away for a year. He has two vehicles he wants you and your twin to use while he is away. You only need to wash them and change engine oil once. The two vehicles are the new Tuscon hybrid and the RAV4 hybrid. Which car would you pick? I'd pick the Tuscon for sure. It's good looking, drives better, equipped better, and goes faster with less NVH. Economy , reliability, and resale value are variables that can be weighed.
This review is strange, it was just Tucson is great, this car is great, but Toyota has a great history. Toyota is better. It went away from a car review to a company review. meh.
Yes but the track record, reliability and resale value are mostly important to customers first. You can talk about better features the Hyundai has all day long but it doesn’t mean as much if the reputation isn’t there. I personally don’t value the Hyundai name. I will always choose Toyota. I bought a brand new Camry in 2011 and now 10 years later the car has not failed me one time. I have only changed the oil, tires, and battery. I know Hyundai gives a long warranty to their customers but I’ve also heard that Hyundai dealerships will fight you on anything you bring in for warranty repair. Whatever they put on paper doesn’t mean shit
@@estebanpacheco7102 he’s not telling you to not buy the Tucson but he wants to make you aware of what’s important to car buyers. If resale and history of reliability is not high on your list then for sure you should get what you like especially if the performance and features are of more interest to you.
@@sammyjammy6647 Agree, he is definitely not telling me to buy Tucson. But disregarding of the car that he drove, or compare (it just happened to be the tucson), it will always be a "take Toyota". I'll bet he will use the same argument among any Korean or other japanese car and probably several european vendors. Now imagine if all the review sites and videos will follow the "company has great history" to review and compare cars there will be no need to review them.
The toyota Rav4 hybrid has a fuel capacity 14.5 to compare to the hyundai tucson hybrid fuel capacity of 13.7, so the fuel efficiency can't go to the toyota because it carries more fuel what is happening to these car reviewers are toyota paying you.
Tucson all the way cause I owned a 2009 camry hybrid and reliability was really average. Toyota has too many electronic issues and the center console software is always 10 years behind competition. Build quality inside is below Hyundai either. Hyundai don't have inside rattle like Toyota. Most people keep vehicles no more than 5 years and Hyundai is fully warranty for that period of time, Toyota has only 3 years full warranty. And you can pay off your Hyundai before delivery of your Toyota, which is pretty peewee service from a brand like Toyota.
Toyota has a better body but the Hyundai has a similar body. Hyundai is better because they have a better interior and slightly more tech. Toyota make great cars but their internal designs are limited and basic
This is the most laughable “review” I’ve watched in some time. No mention of acceleration (0-60mph under 7 seconds) and handling that rivals many sport defense. They may be around the same price but the Tuscan has a Lexus-quality interior and features while the RAV4 has a Toyota. Finally, if you try to buy the Tuscan you’ll pay sticker (currently) but go for the Toyota and expect to pay a surcharge from $1k to $10k.
I like it a lot more, I am getting a Toyota rav4 design 2.5 AWD SUV 2022 In March, long waiting time here in the UK. So I said well I may as well just wait and get a 22 plate.
Hyundai 1.6t engine has a lot of issues. Carbon issue, Burning engine oil issue, Dual clutch transmission will end up breaking after 80k++. if you lease Hyundai for good deal than go for it. If you are going to buy one of Hyundai 1.6L turbo engine car, please don't.
Look in my personal opinion kia and hyundai are killing toyota needs to work on there styling as for the mpg not much difference and more power. Almost as reliable as toyota and that is saying alot
