Best part about the 911: All of them are good. From the base to the S models to the GTS to the Turbo S to the GT models. There's one for everyone (provided they don't bankrupt you).
@@omaralkayal7598 wtf kind of logic is that.. Bc they're both German? Porsche is actually at the top of all luxury reliability ratings along with Lexus. The X1 is a fwd badge engineered mini Cooper, hardly related to the rest of their lineup
@@papa_pt Current X1 is a rebodied Mini Countryman. Previous gen was effectively a stretched (and taller) 1 series. Ours has been dead-nuts reliable. There can be problems with the timing chain tensioners in the 4 cyl, but BMW has agreed to extend the warranty on those engines to cover that. The most reliable/cheapest to maintain car we ever owned was a 2nd gen Civic. Our E39 chassis 530 was a very close 2nd. We put over 100k miles on that, and the only expense was replacing a window seal (2 hours of my time and $35). Least reliable/most expensive to keep running? Tie between the Subaru and the 1st gen Integra.
@@americanAlienBoy yeah I recently realized the first gen was the closest we came to a turbo six e91 wagon in the states. Yes loved my e39 530.. Also had a 2011 Subaru legacy that was dead reliable. Currently on an e61 535 and have to say pretty much deprise drivijnf the X1 when I get a loaner. The pedals are like on and off switches no progression
Every time they review an exciting car I am reminded of my turbo Corolla not having being financially viable for years and how I want an S2000 and how much hassle I could have avoided, had I been 'allowed' to get one instead back then. If I won a Porsche, I'd sell it and use the money for one or both of those to-do's. (Running costs of a Porsche would be too high.)
I know this is completely off topic from the video, but could you guys make a video comparing the best audio systems you guys have tested in cars for each different category of price point? It seems like you guys are very hard/critiquing & I would like a list to compare it to for better reference.
I would say that it would possibly be not very good for relations with their brand representatives. because he will have to say, that some brands just plain suck, and others do not. And when somebody tells people that your cars suck you dont want to give your new cars to review
I think the issue is usually not with the audio system brand but rather how the car manufacturers build the system into their cars. A list might be difficult and they usually just state whether it's better to pay more for the "premium" sound upgrade or not. I think before they can make a list on the better audio system you would have to categorise them based on price and use case first. It's not a bad idea, I think it might be a good thing to ask on one of their live Q&A's.
This is something I've wondered as well. It looks like use technical stats as well as subjective measures to determine which stereos are good and which ones are bad. Someone above commented they might not be ready to spill the beans who has the worst system out there. However, I think they could do this in a tasteful, non-disparaging way. Besides, these brands need to know that there are a lot of us out here who really do care about the audio system in a vehicle, no matter what kind of vehicle it is. Do it! Do it! Do it!
@@WeJustDrive Amen to that. I used to think they were just for old people but then I realised younger would buy them just as much but most of us are just too broke to get them before becoming old. Recently I've seen my first 992 IRL and it's just a stunning car.
I rented a GTS from the Porsche museum in Stuttgart Germany pre Covid. Oddly enough it was a red coupe just like Mark was thrashing about. I took it straight to the Alps for the day, what an experience behind the wheel of that machine in the Alps.
@@jt2475 Yeah it was bucket list stuff, driving in the Alps was incredible, we don’t have roads like that in US. Then you compound it with being behind the wheel of a GTS all day it was amazing.
@@manfromwuhan714 To be exact it was $456 for the entire day, which is cheap compared to how they charge in the states to rent one for a few hours let alone an entire day. If I remember correctly the GT3 was the same price to rent as well, I tried to get that initially but someone reserved it before I could.
What you are talking about is the "revolutionary counter". And Porsche understandably did a bad job there. On a modern engine it would switch to Mexico much earlier and then later to Bolivia, then Nicaragua up to and bouncing off the rev limiter, then Cuba if you overrev it, and Venezuela if you manage to overrev it beyond 9000.
Have always loved the GTS trim level. GTS Coupe, manual, lightweight package for me. You forgot to mention the GTS targa only comes with 4wd. You can't get it RWD.
Can not wait for the docu-series! Even though I might never buy a GT3, I'm certainly working towards buying a Porsche and your in depth reviews covering all their niche models are incredibly helpful.
You locked a nice location to drive these cars. Blood mountain north ga is an amazing road and lots of unique surrounding roads. One of the best routes in the country.
I know it's off topic, but thank you for being kind to the cyclist. That's how you do it, much respect to Jack there. The driving looks so fun, almost like surfing in those switchbacks.
@@Mister_5150 Yeah, I agree they sure are sometimes, but they are also human and extremely vulnerable to cars. That's why I commented on the show of patience and being considerate.
My buddy took me a ride in his older Porsche 911 man it was just incredible. It’s like someone tied a rocket to my ass and shoved me face first around every corner. Truly a remarkable car that I’m still glad is being built👍👍👍👍👍
Seriously... Who down votes any Savagegeese content? Mark and Jack provide some of the most in-depth, engaging, fun, and interesting car review and car related content on the internet. Love your videos guys, can't wait to see more Porsche content. Thank you so much for what you guys do!!
Porsche has been saying I don't need flare to kick you ass on the track for what 40 years now? They want to to sit back and watch you get your ass handed to you by a beefed up beetle, AND YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE IT! These cars are just sick
Well, as per usual, loved the video, wondered why there are not 5x the subscribers... nothing new there. THEN, you end by telling me there's going to be long format docuseries on Porsche GT models! Absolutely cannot wait for that! Please never change the attitude to which you go about your reviews. It is so truly wonderful to have a place to go for a review that is not simply a regurgitation of the press release bullet points. Thank you both for your commitment to your art.
Honestly, in the beginning when Mark was talking about the door storage, and he was stuffing his sunglass case in the pocket, i thought it was a hotdog 😅 And honestly, it would have been hilariously on brand for this channel 🤣
I have been following you guys for a while now. The best in the business IMO, along with a couple other high end reviewers !!! Great review guys keep it up !! Hi from South Africa
You guys probably have the highest comment to view ratio. I have a Targa4s white metallic red and black full leather on order with a dealer close to you guys. Thinking 2 years before delivery. Have you tried driving north to the WI driftless area? This is where glaciers did not flatten everything. Some of the best driving roads in the country!!
I love that road. I live north of Atlanta and have been up there a few times. All the car guys here know this road up to Blood Mountain, along with Wolf Pen Gap Rd north of Vogel State Park. I can say that this area is the perfect place to test a sports car - those turns are no joke and will wake you up right away - not to mention some nice greenery. If money was no object I think I'd take the Targa 4 GTS - seems like a nice compromise between a Cabriolet and the coupe. Having the ability to take the roof off always makes the driving experience more fun, while having a hard top is nice for longer drives on the highway.
This is my favorite 911, especially because of the targa roof and now the seat delete package. I love the GT3 alot but tuning a GTS to 600 horsepower easily and the more comfortable appeal is more desirable to me.
I have noticed that each new generation of 911 GTS has been as capable or better than the previous generation 911 GT3. If this holds, the 992 GTS will be comparable to the 991.2 GT3! That alone will be remarkable.
That front facing camera was great I could feel the turn in on the curves after the cyclists was passed. The best car reviews guys great job as always!
By far some of the best automotive content. Thank you for getting into materials, build, components used, etc. so much better than other folks that just hit the highlights and play with the built in iPads. Don’t ever be afraid to be honest about these vehicles as they all have some issue. Case in point is the oil dilution issue with Honda. Y’all immediately brought it up and I bet 90% of journalists don’t even know about it. The LFA discussion was great….it’s all about the details. Folks don’t often realize the amount of time it takes to design and build this stuff.
I'm not a Porsche guy but I'm amazed how Porsche can slice and dice their customers into all these little slots where there is a 911 model for each one of them. It's all extremely clever...and a little pricey. I tip my hat to 911 ecosystem. I'm a much simpler guy and my OG M2 and I motor along quite happily through all this.
Every time they introduce a new variant they get magazine covers and more reviews on here and everywhere else. They could probably cut out a few specialty models, but their advertising people would have a fit.
You guys are killin it, loved this review. Fun to watch this channel grow over the last three years. You guys hyphenate your last names yet and make the marriage official?
For the real world and without a track near by, GTS all day. I'd go manual coupe, normal sport seats, red interior with dark blue or the green metallic paint, keep the options low so it's actually less than a GT3 lol. Only problem is that the 718 4.0 exists and that's an even better sports car and it's $50k cheaper.
I completely agree. The 718 is a better car in many ways, and lacks hardly anything meaningful. It won't appeal to hardcore Porschephiles in the same way, but who cares? You can buy a nice commuter car with the price difference. Maybe a BEV, even.
You guys should have a content warning for that new funky music in the video. Now I have to explain to my neighbors why I shook around awkwardly in my kitchen while muttering to myself about Porsches. Seriously though, you guys are crushing it!
That car is unreal. And they did an awesome job making a turbo engine actually sound good. I'd love to get behind the wheel of the GTS coupe with a manual like the red one you guys had. Beautiful beast.
It's not even difficult if you WANT to make it sound exciting. Usually it is legal restrictions that make it tricky. Cars like this might fall under certain 'easings' of the rules, or maybe not even that but buyers don't take issue with a loud engine and/or exhaust. Plus, the engineers know all the emissions hoops and tricks, so they can make an engine with sharp cams that sounds aggressive and revs high that still meets emissions standards. ... One of those 'tricks' is to have a shitton of money in the budget.
Really nice implementation of drivers interaction with instruments with plenty of buttons and a simple yet powerful touch screen experience. Although I would prefer absolute rotary knobs for temperature and wind blowing speed. And there is at least one button missing: close air circulation. Yesterday I was driving and I had to use multiple times. Luckily my "old" car has physical button and when I see some oil burning car or people burning branches/leaves I can quickly turn incar air circulation. Imagine the hassle of using a touch screen implementation that is nowadays being forgotten about as we do not need to close air circulation since we are going "environment friendly"/no exhaust electric cars.
Only Porsche could get away with charging extra on their GTS model for the GTS package… I’m in awe/jealous of how they can treat their customers and still do well 🤣
