Think you´ve just landed a 100%. I cannot talk for everyone of course, but for my part: this (first) review had it all. Stay as dead honest and vital as you are!
Huge down tube diameters and no storage compartment 😩 (at least they have could put on some mounting points for repair tools on the top tube). More brands need to jump on the Specialized SWAT train!!!
SEE OUR LONG-TERM BRONSON REVIEW HERE - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-siYFtUN5bdc.html Video Contents 0:00 - Introduction 1:03 - What is New on The Bronson 2:25 - Geometry / Sizing 3:54 - Bronson Models & Pricing 4:30 - Our Bronson Test Bike 5:28 - New Santa Cruz Handlebar 6:09 - First Ride Impressions 8:15 - Nomad or Bronson? 9:27 - Bronson V3 vs V4 10:36 - Climbing 12:14 - Stack Height 12:53 - Setting Sag 13:34 - FOX 36 Fork 14:56 - Long-term Plans
As others have said, great unbiased feeling review. Totally agree with the point on taking bikes for a long arduous ride rather than a quick fun spin. Read too many reviews lately based on one short ride with less than 500m of climbing...of course it felt great!
Awesome review, one of the only channels I see sticking to their guns and keeping it as unbiased as possible. I look forward to the conclusion of this review.
Would try dropping the lowers on the 36 and pull the air shaft, probably excessive grease in the negative chamber. The new fox stuff is buttery smooth but they still seem to have some issues with assembly
Nah, Fox will just get harsher and harsher, until the smallest bumps send sharp shockwaves through the hands. RS Zeb or Lyrik are really the two best forks out there.
I bought one of the last Mk 2s CR build reduced from £3,800 to £3k, the new equivalent is now a whisker under £5k. Even then, I've replaced the awful SRAM drive train for XT/XTR, swapped over to the Hope brakes I had from my previous bike etc etc
Looks like an exciting option to me, still wishing they'd kept it as a dedicated 27.5er all rounder in their lineup. I'm just looking forward to the V2 treatment of the Megatower sometime in 2022. My V1 is getting long in the tooth 👀
Beat on this for the rest of the year and at some point compare it to the Hightower. I want to know if (back to back) you think the mullet setup is a gimmick or if you think the HT actually rides better.
The front wanders on climbs bc handlebar rise is way too much...it needs a 10deg or less rise handle bar and 0deg rise stem and as few of HT spacers as possible to lower the stack...I have a Foes Mixer Trail set up in this way, it never wanders and climbs like a beast...MX mtb's are the way!!! Nice review
Wow! They ruined it! I waited over a year for them to go "inbred thunderhonky", eliminate aluminum, increase the downtube size with no storage, up the price for an entry build... when the s build aluminum had GX and fox 36 on the front for $3999?!!! Hard pass Santa Cruz!!! THX, now I gotta look at something else! Fokkers!
couldn't agree more. I am a very satisfied owner of a bronson v3. looks like i am going to ride mine for quite a while, because the v4 clearly isn't an option for me at all.
@@nelson4483 yours is the one I was told was going to be this year, same color, same build by santa crud themselves and that's the one I wanted! Mullet bikes aren't designed to be quiver killers and playful like the Bronson (was)
Please explain the "Im not a Dr but I stayed at a Hampton Inn last week "joke to me. We can do this outside office hours if you are amendable to this arrangement.
I think clients are just trained to buy top components even if they don't need them or take mtb serious. They even remind you that you don't need to spend that much money on a bike but people don't listen or care they want top gear to look cool and thats a problem we need to fix I think
If it were my bike I'd at least invis it. Learnt that one the hard way :( Anyway, nice bike Santa Cruz, I used to have the Bronson 1. V4 looks miles apart.
Santa Cruz needs to stop mixing suspension brands unless it's something like a Push ElevenSix with a 36 Factory. Dropping a coil conversion into that Fork will make a world of difference. My Vorsprung Smashpot 36 with Grip 2 and Push seals is brilliant.
@@obi-wankenobi9871 because it looks awful, this is not a budget brand where every penny matters and the Fox X2 Factory Kashima is a better and more adjustable shock. Its like putting a shimano front brake with a sram rear. It would work, you would stop just fine but its definitely not the right thing to do. The only time mixed brand suspension works is when its a top end rear shock like a Push or EXT.
I’d really like to know what’s that best climbing bike?! I’m really searching for a bike that is a good climber, since my daily riding involves more climbing than descending. But I do not want a XC bike since I have back issues and need the upright position of a trail bike. Edit: spelling
Own a Bronson V3, have demoed a lot of Pivots and Ibises and Yetis. I would say Pivot and Ibis are best climbers, followed by Yeti, with Santa Cruz lower link bikes nipping right on their heels. Of course it also depends on the type of climbing- technical chunky, short and punchy, or just fire road long slog. I think that the SC is really good and maybe on par with the others in the techy climbs, but the others have an edge in the other types of climbing. But, I have a SC Bronson V3 because IMO it decends better than those others- I prefer the plushness of the VPP on the way down. The differences these days though are so much smaller than what they used to be- they’re all so good.
@@dadventuretv2538 my bronson climbs amazing on tech but is so incredibly bad on single track/ fire road style climbs compared to my intense primer. Bronson is for sure more capable on gnar but I'm still significantly faster on the primer in nearly all situations with the 29 wheels
I have a 2017 CC Bronson so I'm not at all anti-bronson but man this thing was a disappointment. I mean, I get that every reviewer is going to try to make every new product seem great but the mixed wheels are just terrible. Same with the big cost increase
Ya, i wanna buy one. and questioning the mx, tho i shouldnt.. b/c i demo rode a 24' at spyder mtn, didnt notice it was mx (lol) and was blown away with how good it was. But that was comin off a jank bike too, to be fair. the grip was hugely increased vs. my old db atroz bike. lol.
If I had 7K at my disposal....I'd buy the XT version. Bummer the frame cost got jacked up too. Might be more inclined to move parts and buy a 29er fork and front wheel.
I'm looking forward to following how this unfolds too. 29er in the back def has better rollover in many sections, while 27.5 in the back I think can be moved around easier in the extreme techy junk...
Question is just how much extreme techy junk do you have to ride. In between, a 29er will be faster. But is faster all you want? It’s starting to show people want to go back having fun on their bikes.
I have a short travel 29 Transition and a 27”Yeti, I find the 29 is awesome for long days but if I want to have fun and not care about distance or KOM’s I’m grabbing the yeti and doing shuttles.
I think mixed tyre bikes are here to stay. Enduro moto bikes are mixed wheel and have been for ever, I can see more bikes being mixed wheel with more emphasis on tyre choice and brakes. I also think the bike Industry should take a leaf out of the moto industry and offer very good build kits as standard with no fuss. You don’t see a KTM enduro with 10 brake options and shock options, it’s all down to the rider and skills. Only pros upgrade that stuff.
What is frustrating is there are a couple different grip 2 tunes...and they use the same part number. Good luck figuring out if your buying lighter or heavier tune.
How can they justify those prices? Recommend looking at Transition Bikes if your looking for a cheaper (still pricey) bike with fantastic performance and builds.
I wanna see a mullet nomad. Like having 165/170mm outback. I’m waiting for either a yeti sb165 mullet or nomad mullet. Which ever comes first is getting my money. Like to get there attention.
It is a little of both. A neglected bike won't perform and stinks to ride, but, we do try to make it a littler harder on a bike than we would if it were our own.
Salut, merci pour cette vidéo vraiment super complète peux tu me dire stp qu'elle taille fait tu et qu'elle taille de vélo à tu choisi, je suis sur le point d'acheter le même mais j'hésite entre le M et le L je mesure 1m77 Bye 🤘
Good point. Never thought of that but then I never carry a spare unless I’m going on a LONG ride. I ride extra tough casing, tubeless and carry a Stan’s dart. Also use Orange Sealant Endurance. That stuff has never let me down. It seals the very occasional puncture almost instantly. (Obviously you’d have to carry both or risk just carrying the 27.5 rear).
I bought a 2021 Pivot Switchblade with 29" wheels but it is also designed to be run as a mullet bike. Next step is to put a 27.5 wheel out back to try it out. Question: would you get better results with a regular 27.5 rear wheel or a 27.5+ rear wheel? Fortunately, the Pivot Switchblade is compatible with both.
