He's back. And I'm here for it. I started watching Mark years ago for his no bullshit assessment of vehicles. Well, that, and he's still the only one to throw a car on a lift and go over the technical aspects. I've seen him rave about $20k cars and shit on $80k cars because he actually takes price into consideration. Keep giving us your real opinions, and I'll keep pissing away money every month on your Patreon. And be happy about doing so.
@@seanm3ify Back in the day, when the Goose reviewed a car as disposable as this EQB, he would absolutely drag it. No sugarcoating, no pulling punches. Check out his video for the 2017 Escape. Just brutal. As his channel has grown, he's held back some of that contempt so that he doesn't get completely blacklisted, among other reasons. I completely understand why, too. He is forced to market himself. Still, it was refreshing to see him give a little piece of his mind in this video. That's all I meant by "he's back".
And that's why I love those guys too. It's not just "oh I hate this car because it's an EV and I hate EVs", No, it's taking the big picture into account. It's really great to see their point of view on this one especially if you check other reviews of this car, they are quite positive as they missed the point but Mark nailed it right away. If you know anyone that might be interested in this EQB, they must see this video before doing anything. Once again, Thank you Savage Geese for what you're doing.
How is it a piece of shit? If you need a daily commuter, and have 3+ kids, get it and enjoy right? Not everyone needs an ICE truck that tows 1000 miles.
@@LogicalQ the EQB would smoke your WRX though, and it’s a proper family car, 7 seats. I don’t get why it’s a POS. It might be overpriced, but a lot of things are.
@@TheSteinbitt the EQB300 has a 0-60 of 7.0 and a top speed of 99mph. This is a disposable transportation appliance. And if I wanted one of those, even a Chrysler Pacifica is a better option.
Its 60k, mate.... Look what else you can get for 60k and then look at thise POS again. Taking price out of the equation, as you did, is simply disingenuous. Price matters in the real world.
This is the rip that Mercedes needed to hear. The way it works with most journalists is they supply cars on the condition that you have to praise the cars to get more cars to review, and to be invited on free junkets in exotic places to launch new cars which you are, again, required to praise. It's cash and perks for comments. But Mercedes need to hear real feedback sometimes or else they will lose touch with reality. If they want to stay relevant into the future, they need to listen to people like Mark who they know will give it to them straight.
Mercedes C-level exec : “Why did a review call our EQB a pile of schisse?” EQB brand manager; “..look boss, they’re just angry guys in Illinois. The EQB is awesome-look at all these glowing reviews from our Geneva press junket! Look at the lease and sales stats! It’s a success! Speaking of success, I’m open to being the next Division VP after Hans retires next month… “
Nobody at Mercedes (or any manufacturer for that matter) cares about what any journalist has to say about their products. They care about sales figures, revenue and stock price. Until those fall, there is no reason to change.
@@Tool0GT92 This car released like this year in sweden so for us it's pretty relevant in electric form at least. His video on the 2019 Mazda 3 came just when it released last time and that video made me buy one
Frankly I think all Mark's issues with this car are solved when you consider that MB just understands their customers. A bunch of badge sheep. That's the message they're sending out. That's how they view people who buy this.
Badge sheep... That perfectly sums it up here. So many people fall into that gutter these days, be it with cars, clothes, phones.. They are just 'consumers'.. Really sad to be honest.
All the A and B class variants are like that, built cheaply, just glitter covered dog crap and you'd be better suited to a Golf or Jetta if you want something German.
Absolutely love my Model 3 - best car I’ve ever owned, but the pricing is WAY too crazy on all EVs. The price needs to come down to make these worth anything to the average buyer. They need to be cheaper in every way to eventually compete.
@@justinstewart3248 Tesla used to be fine for sure. Especially before the market changes/price increase- tho my uncle got a used 1 at the right time, for not even 50k Canadian (with low kms). Thats not a bad deal at all! Also, cuz of a good charging network it was quite worth it for them. Now I despise EVs, the car market, everything. Lol. I'm sure the Japanese manufacturers will swoop in properly and be a whole lot more reasonable (as usual).
And how much of the earth was strip-mined and how many hours of child labor to produce this disposable thing with a battery that’s already woefully obsolete
I love that you gents aren't afraid to be open and honest about what real value is in vehicles that are being peddled to the masses. Every rant isn't just entertainment, it's frustration being released after seeing what is being pumped out at different price points. Keep up the great work!
Holy shit! I ABSOIULTELY LOVE the brutal honesty about this vehicle. I have hated the shit MB have been doing ever since they made the high priced disposable gimmick piles of shit they have been releasing for the past 10 years. I know everyone likes to rag on BMW because of their design choice, but the cars they have been releasing have been an order of magnitude better then the stupid crap MB has been releasing for astronomical prices for the most part. There might be a few exceptions but MB is a bad car company in my opinion.
Let me say one thing, at least MB supply the vehicles. There are enough motor manufacturers who only let people review these cars when they are completely over the top positive because it has four wheels. And everybody reads between the lines here (happens also by positive reviews), so it's ok for MB to keep doing!
That explanation at the end of the video is exactly how I've been feeling about the whole automotive industry. Along with the video on the current car market trends and how it might destroy itself have been major deterrents for me wanting to get new vehicles. The more I see coming out, the more I just feel that Mark is spot on that these are all "transition" vehicles that are place holders. So many modern cars get the electronics, infotainment, etc. just wrong in ways that don't make any sense and throw in half baked features that they won't fix because the next generation will be better (incentive for people to trade in their car).
Yep they have basically become smartphones on wheels, except the smartphone costs $1,000 instead of $60,000, but both will be replaced in 2 to 3 years. At least with the smartphone you could call $59,000 worth of Ubers and just skip the car. 😁 I think I'll hold onto my 2009 CR-V until it dies, which doesn't seem like anytime soon.
The manufacturers don't expect to sell a lot of these, so they're using them as test platforms for new tech. If anything, they sell more cars this way because there's overlap between early EV adopters and tech nerds.
It is refreshing to watch an honest review. Governments shouldn’t rush the internal combustion engine limitations because clearly the car manufacturers aren’t ready. Limited number of EVs on the market and you need to line up for long time to get one in Canada.
Love this video. I have nothing against Mercedes but I love the way you are in this video. This is what made me love this channel many years ago. It's one of the only channels that I know of that'll just tell you straight up if the car is s*** or not
While Mark makes this point often, the tansitionsry period of the market makes current products unappealing. Current EVs may be useless in 10 years due to charging infrastructure, especially on the public charger side where prices increase (offsetting a major benefit). Buying a new gas car could leave you with a car payment and high taxes/fuel cost in a few years. These half assed models won't retain any sort of value when you finally want to get something better (like a 1st gen Leaf was worthless after a few years). I really wanted a maverick or whatever Toyota comes out with for my homestead, but I've been making my older cars work somehow, because who would buy in this market.
Many current EV's will be perfectly adequate in 10 years, just like a 2013 model S is now. However, these cars are crazy expensive to design, so many manufacturers also make shit like this EQB. For 60k it competes with model Y which absolutely destroys this. Tesla interior might not be brilliant, but B class isnt either so 🤷♀
There's a lot in this comment that just doesn't make sense. How will charging infrastructure make current EVs useless? If more people are driving EVs, how is gas going to get more expensive? Some of yall really aren't thinking this stuff through. I don't think EVs are a solution for everybody, and I don't think they ever will be, but there's a lot of irrational FUD in the opposition to them
Crazy to think that just 30 or so years ago they were making the most insanely well-built and long-lasting cars money could buy, and then they willingly threw that away and started building cars like this one. Great video, just subscribed!
Let me say till early 2000s Mercedes and BMW cars were phenomenal machines. Then started the downhill path. I was a huge fan of German engineering for many decades, but today I would never buy this piece of junk. If I was forced to buy an EV I would rather buy a Tesla or BYD.
@@leaningtower73 Definitely agree. I’ve owned a W126, a late model w140, and a w220, and while the 220 was a really cool car, the build quality and reliability just wasn’t there compared to the other two. Meanwhile, the 126 ruined all other cars for me for a long time
God bless you gents. This is one of the most sincere car review I've heard all year. This rush to full EV feels rushed, resulting in a lot of companies putting out ThrashEV just to meet up regulations. It's so sad.
You guys are so hilarious omg. I've been watching yall for a few years now! I have learned so much about Cars and engineering from you guys. I am saving up to buy an entry level sports car one day when Market prices come back down to earth.
So right, audi is guilty of this too. Most 60k german cars don't have cooled seats or heated steering wheels , cx5 top trim is under 40k and has those features.
My favorite new car review of the last month. This is epic, more no BS trash talk like this please! I’m sure there’s a whole lot of garbage still out on the market.
These electric EQBs are really big here in Germany, but I’m also seeing a ton of buyers remorse. I think the charm of an electric Benz quickly wears off when winter starts to set in. Ironically, I’ve also seen a LOT of Teslas on the road here.
I think a lot of people have general EV remorse in Europe since they are crazy expensive to buy, the range in winter and on the motorway is horrible and now that electricity is so expensive they are not cheap to run either.
This was a hilarious comment I saw a long time ago but it’s so relevant here. It was, “Mark is obviously a huge car enthusiast but he’s also clearly disappointed the asteroid hasn’t hit us yet”. Great review as always, love you guys.
Jack's right. I'm on the west coast with a 20 mile commute and would like something a bit more upscale than a KIA EV. The EQB would seem to fit that bill without costing $100K large. Mark is also right, the EQB is completely disposable and way over priced. There's very few vehicles in the premium (not ultra luxury) EV market right now that justifies a $20K mark-up over it's gas counterpart.
200-ish miles would be fine for my commuter, too. Charge it maybe twice a week at home and I'm good. But still, this is awfully big and expensive to just carry me to the office. And yeah, I get the sense that it'll be more outdated in five years than a gas car. I expect that I've already bought my final gas car, but I don't want to settle for this midway point in EVs, either.
@@WantonSoup192 possibly better off walking or hopping on a skateboard than getting this hunk of planned obsolescence. I'd rather push a broken E55 than take this thing for free. Mercedes has led so many aspects of the automotive industry for sooo long. Sad how far they've fallen.
Try the BMW i4 e35. It's a hatchback so it's quite usable, better range, and cheaper. You can get it well equipped for 55k. While its still 400v, its a much better package 250 miles of range. If you need more range you can step up to the e40. Way better infotainment and a very good upgraded HK Audio System (Savage Geese Reviewed the Audio for the i4 M50 which is the same system)
Said it before and I'll say it again. I don't even like driving and if I could do the stuff I like to do without a car, I wouldn't have one. But I'll always watch your videos because of reviews like this -- love the candor!!!
Thanks guys for being so refreshingly honest for a change. Almost all car reviewers on YT would do all kinds of mental gymnastics not say a car is crap so they don't get banned from a major manufacturer. Thank you and we will continue to support you!!!
The range is just trash, even without the cold. I’d be interested to see the range on a normal day in January up here in Canada. Thank you for calling out this car for what it is. This is why I love this channel.
Crazy how manufacturers still betting on a concept unattainable for the average earth citizen. I love the honesty Mark and Jack throw at bullshit gimmicks
I love that Mark was eating an (ICE) cream cone while driving an EV. Well played sir. It’s these Easter eggs that make you guys the best reviewers on RU-vid bar none.
@@singular9 I would not put all eggs to one basket. It's just when you sit in it and do not understand where the money gone. Like, for example, I can understand why Porsche costs that much and I can understand why S-class costs that much.
I disagree, my Tesla model 3 performance is around this price and it feels like a little rocket. Handles and grips like it’s on rails too. Well implemented evs are phenomenal
@@Eldaino999 yeah, it does. It’s not a model s, model 3 are good on track. Look up how they run on the Nurburgring. The suspension is also extremely comfortable, significantly better than the m340i I had before it imo
@@Mrfix-iz4di Honestly right now the only 2 practical EVs on the market are the Tesla 3 and Tesla model S, if it can't get 300-400 mileage and charge at least at 200kW then it's garbage.
That is a very good point, the largest amount of emissions and pollution are created when making new vehicles, we should not be thinking about making disposable vehicles like smartphones! We should be thinking about how to make long lasting vehicles.
Couldn’t agree more. I drove a GLB250 for a couple of months now and for an appliance, it’s very useful and nice for the $40k price. This EQB shit takes that, adds $20k and makes everything worse about it. Happy Mark said it. I don’t know who this is for. When I was in for my front suspension cradle recall work on the GLB the salesman was trying to sell me on the EQB and I actually laughed in his face. The vehicle makes no sense over the GLB250
Love the video. I think manufacturers need time to iterate and see what works and what doesn’t in the EV market. Manufacturers know this and governments know this. There will be some poor products that emerge during the transition and I’m glad you touched on that aspect.
😂😂😂 I'm dying. Love the honesty. This is just a "me too" car. Mercs business model nowadays is if there a niche, or some profit to be had they'll get involved no matter how shitty or subpar the product.
Sadly, this thing might sell well for those who can't really afford it, but are stretching for the EV and Mercedes brand prestige... Otherwise, there are MUCH better options for both EV and CUVs from other brands at this price point.
I enjoy watching the reviews on crappy cars as much as the good ones, way to keep it real guys! I don't know why you guys don't have at least a million subscribers by now.
It’s for real estate agents. They probably drive at most on average 100 to 150 miles in a day. They feel in their industry you have to drive a pretty nice car to convey a level of success you’re having. They can pile in their clients. It’s super quiet so they can have conversations with them about the house they just saw or the one they’re about to go see. In the limited range of this vehicle is more than enough to cover their daily journey, where they can then charge it back up at home for the next day. Every car has a purpose.
Dear lord, this video drained the life out of Mark faster than my wife's boyfriend drained my bank account on their trip to Maui. Someone send out an S.O.S(2000) pronto.
Mark, not sure if you have reviewed the GV70 EV and the XC40 Recharge that are also a retrofit EV, would your impressions be the same? A fully loaded XC40 AWD gas can be had for 45K while same equivalent is $60K, I can never see how and when a buyer will recover that 15K difference! Similarly the GV 70 it even more pricier.
I agree and really like where the car industry is going. Ambient lighting , exterior lighting, screens, piano gloss plastics, carbon bits that are added for weight saving , cost cutting on suspension, reliability testing, fixing known software bugs afterwards etc.. Just like any other business : focus on the most uninformed / dumb customers and appeal to the inner child that likes blinky lights.
I support Mark’s comments. Say it like it is. If they didn’t want to get called out for it then don’t make it. MB struggling to differentiate at the low end with how nice all the manufacturers are producing.
I loved the ev discussion here. For me, the ev market is viable when the charging is under 15 minutes, 450+ miles of range minimum, battery deterioration is either very little or it is replaceable for dirt cheap, and they aren’t $10,000 to $25,000 more expensive than a gas powered vehicle.
@Donovan Lewis in city driving is one thing. But if I wanna go somewhere that’s 400+ miles away, I couldn’t make it one trip unless I start adding in extra time to the trip. I think you’re assuming my mindset, but I could argue your mindset is too limited. Why couldn’t EV vehicles down the road have recharging tech where as you are driving, the car is able to generate more electricity to the point where the gap between input vs output is shorter, thus elongating the driving distance? This would reduce charging time, using less electricity, and is a net benefit where the longer you drive the more distance you can go.
@Donovan Lewis why would it have to be expensive? Put a battery pack in with 280 mile range (at today's cost, even though it could be cheaper down the road) and implement tech that receives 50% of it's range back while driving and you're in the mid 400's? That extra tech could cost more at the start, but could get cheaper over the years. I don't see how EVs in the future couldn't implement a recharge platform that works as you drive. They've already put solar panels on them (and yes I know its like 2 miles of return a day in sunny conditions, but it's an early start). In my mind, if an EV can't at least match what a gas/hybrid car can do, it is not worth buying one.
@@DadDrums1015 right now with my job and available infrastructure I agree with your EV desires as well. I have a 50 mile commute and drive for an additional 100+ miles a day 5/6 days a week. I think it would be cool to have more options but my rural community doesn't have that type of backing.
This isn't the first video I've seen were they talk about the milage dropping in half in cold weather. I guess California suits didn't think of that for half the country and Canada for the he'll of it
Hyundai/Kia/Genesis is really doing far better in creating all new EVs and in adapting existing platforms to electric at both ends of the market. When it comes to styling new EVs, Mercedes is at the tail end of the pack.
