Mercedes somehow started making cars that are a perfect synthesis of all the things I hate in modern cars. It’s literally like they used me as an anti-consultant
Right? I don't know what the hell happened. Not even that long ago they were making relatively subtle-normal cars and incredibly advanced but not in-your-face tech miracles (like the S-class from a couple of years ago). And now they make these ugly, tacky, fake-looking soap-boxes with as many screens as possible that are not only distractive as hell but are also basically like covering the whole interior with piano-black. I truly don't know what happened.
i dont understand how looking at your cellphone screen while driving is considered distracted driving but car manufactures are allowed to literally put t.v screen RIGHT INFRONT OF THE DRIVER and that is ok....
Good point but also, the screen in the car is not designed to take your attention off the road where your phone is. That’s why Android Auto and Apple Car Play is extremely limited on what you can do. They are still distracting but not nearly as much as your phone. At the end of the day, the question comes down to, are you a responsible driver or not.
Ultimately, it’s up to the driver to be distracted or not regardless of what the tech setup is inside. I’ve seen people eating soup, putting on makeup, and other daily life stuff while driving. Those people are hopeless.
Some jurisdictions say touching your car radio while driving is the same as touching a phone. It's typically on the books incase being distracted by them causes an accident. Obviously difficult to prove.
Meanwhile, the police enforcing these laws can play on their laptops, cellphones and radios while driving around in tax payer funded cars and fuel. Love the double standards that governments live by.
The fact that I watched this video (and the one about the big GMC truck last week) is a testament to what a great channel this is. Nobody makes boring vehicles more interesting than Mark and Jack.
As more and more modern cars come out, I am more and more convinced that I should just buy a 1990's corolla and forget that electronics and all this nonsense exists.
I have 2002 Lexus LS 430 & 2004 Landcruiser. I’m fine with them being 20yrs old. No car payments and my LS is nicer than all of my friends 2020’s cars 😂
There seems to be creative intermix between Mercedes and Star Citizen, unsurprisingly. They made a luxury space ship which has that weird orchestral synth effect for engine noise, and an alien-species ship actually has way too blatant actual tiger roar recording as it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FMwlCfsM9Yg.html (But what do you expect from a ship that you fly by grabbing its balls? 🤷♂)
This is one of your best ones yet, I do appreciate the honesty and just letting MB have it for some of the gimmicky stuff. By the way, if you're trying to obscure the speed you're traveling at, you need to mute Jack's mic too, not just Mark's 12:14 :D
"Let's just get this over with" Lol. Guys, the production quality is outstanding and I know reviewing this stuff is work. Thanks for continue to slog through the crap so we can also get gems like the Miata series.
*slow clap* I commend you two for being completely upfront and honest and talking sh!t where it deserves Taking a risk with Corporate/PR from MB. This is not opulence. This is not the path to EV's. In fact, products like this and Hummer EV... actually make a poor argument for EVs and turn people away. This is a entry level version for compliance numbers. C-class of EV's.
“C-Class of EVs.” If that car’s any sign, there’s millions of badge obsessed people who are perfectly ok with driving a cardboard box….so long as it’s a Mercedes cardboard box
@@Silversmok3 Keep in mind that Mercedes gives good discounts for B2B leases- thats why mercedes "sells" them. They are a lease and dump product for corporations. No one buys a 100k EV
I'm not entirely sure but I think this channel often waits and finds other ways to drive these cars besides the usual launch event press tour say nice things or get banned style that all the companies want journalists to do. That gives them the option to speak more freely. Also the hummer EV is pretty awesome if you think of it as a big toy rather than a daily driver in my opinion.
As a 2017 E class owner, i can appreciate the very honest review of the 2023 eqe 350. Version 1.0 of anything always has flaws in need of fixing. Im sure that by 2028/29, when version 2.0 of the eqe and eqs come out, mercedes will have smoothed out a lot of the eccentricities
Agree. All touch screens / screens are more distracting than traditional knobs and buttons. Giant tablets can be more distracting than holding a phone.
I still can’t get over how absolutely hideous and uninspired the EQE and EQS are. Their excuse is the low drag coefficient, but the Lucid Air has the same drag and looks significantly better. Mercedes has been making more and more questionable design choices the last few years.
@@LLG47 I had that stuff on the A-pillars of my MINI. It was nearly impossible to keep as shiny and scratch free as I wanted. It's softer than paint. I don't know if MB is using a harder plastic, but it turns me off, for sure. The EQE badging on it will make it even harder to maintain.
I really don't like Mercedes in so many ways, but the one that I actually considered visually appealing is that expensive roadster one. The grill not too oversizes and it had a nice retro aircraft design touch, in lack of better words. Also, when the industry is panicking, brand A tries to do brand B and brand B tries to do brand A. Especially with BMW and Mercedes I see lots of 'fluctuation'.
My commute to Seattle used to be 50 miles each way in 25MPH bumper to bumper traffic. I would have to refill the fuel tank every 4 days at around $100. This car seems about perfect for that commute. Put it in the traffic, set everything for automatic and relax. Plug it in at night - rinse and repeat.
@@805NAVE All the the current Mercedes designs are kind of blobish. This isn't their most stylish era. The interiors are nice and that's the part you'll actually see during the commute.
Hard to watch this after watching RCRs video released just minutes before SG of a 300E W124, back when Mercedes gave a damn about, well [gestures everywhere]… EVERYTHING!?
Had a MB GLC as a rental car earlier this year, and the black piano plastic really made that vehicle feel cheap compared with even a Toyota Corolla. Looks like this car will be the same.
Not a fan of the full-screen interior with no hard buttons for climate and stuff, but overall... I like it? I like the design and I see what they're going for, and the price is way more reasonable than the EQS (although I still think pricing should be closer to the standard E-Class imho)
I prefer the tablet to the hyperscreen by a large margin. I don't like all glass for the dash. I like that there is another material, this looks like wood. It warms up the car. I'm not a fan of the ambient lights or the fake propulsion noise and wish you'd have turned it off at some point. The room in the back seems a bit suspect for Jack. But maybe it's roomy enough. Screens have lost their novelty. This just looks like Mercedes has adapted the big screen like others. I think the way the EVs are distinguished is by steering, regen feel, suspension.
"Polarizing styling" is being charitable. But the brake pedal moving on it's own is total BS. When you move your foot over to brake and you're waving your bespoke loafers around in mid-air feeling for it, that's more than uncomfortable, that's a safety issue. I dunno - maybe all MB owners two-foot drive these days? Get me an updated W140 is what I say.
Based on my experience in the EQS the annoying sound effects can be turned completely off. I'm betting that is also the case with the EQE. I don't love these cars either but during all of the complaints, you seemed to be having a lot of fun on the drive. I believe we're making a huge mistake betting on EV's from an environmental point of view but I do appreciate the technology.
The break paddle moving is probably the smartest thing about this car and I really don’t get how people don’t realize how bad it would be without it moving.
Red seatbelts seem a bit cringy in that car anyway. It almost seems like a deliberate choice to only have them in the front, though, as driver focused feature and not making it look too cringy by also having them catch attention in the back all the time. I really don't know why they didn't choose a more style- and theme-appropriate color. Why not dark blue or such? Or a nice dark brown, or dark metallic silver as fitting into the secondary color hinting theme of the interior.
@@Dowlphin You can normally tick a box to go back to good old black seatbelts. One of the good things and bad things about German cars is that everything's an option.
I'm confused: expensive vehicles such as this are sold out and demand huge dealer markups. Tesla shut down production due to unprecedented demand. So how is it that people "can't afford" these? Ohhh you mean *you* can't afford it? Got it.
Loved your comments at the end about the future of EVs. Which is why I’m loading up my garage with as many manual ICE machines my bank account allows. Currently blessed enough to have several ranging from a 2022 Miata to a 2018 GT3 Touring. All fun to drive which these aren’t. And yes I’ve spent time in a Taycan, not interested.
If you enjoy being a negative nancy that wants to essentially crush anyone's interest in cars while being ignorant to anything positive sure I guess they are good comments.
Why is this car so shit for rear passengers? A significant part of the taxi fleet here in europe are mercedes E classes, but with the EQ's it seems like they've forgotten everything they learned in the last 20+ years...
I like to structure my avant-garde business deals from the fold out couch in the trailer of my two mom’s double wide in the most sheik trailer park on the wrong side of the tracks. This new EQE is going to compliment my lifestyle perfectly.
Seems like you guys really enjoyed this car. I would hands down choose the EQE over everything else listed as competitors in the description. Even despite the aesthetics.
Electrification was what the manufacturers could have used to reimage themselves what what they are. BMW and MB missed it big time, VW group is only in market who nailed their design language with EV's let it be VW, Porsche or Audi, they look sleek and not in your face. Somehow comparing these new EV sedans with Tesla Model S makes Model S looks handsome and mature, the minimum nature of exterior and interior in Tesla feels like being in a more comfort environment.
Mark, I love your videos so I sweated through this one but there is nothing I loath more than electric cars and German cars. This car is the epitome of why
What to say it’s a proper small business boss becoming bigger,I can even hear it: Yeah,when I started,this firm was 4 employees and me driving eqe,now we are 400 employees and me driving eqs.
Fake noises reminds me of a gag gift got for a friend. You plug it into 12v port and measured the alternator rpm, and would simulate a chevy 350 v8 over the car speakers. When you turned to right fm channel, that 3 cylinder geo metro sounded badass with windows down revving it
MB and german car companies seems far behind the Tesla's BMS technology.. that's why they put those huge batteries which makes the car extremely heavy.. (that EQE is heavier than GLE SUV) The Hyundai Ionic5 won the Motortrend's SUVOTY because of its battery tech, which allows the lighter weight while keeping the similar performance with competitor. Everyone can throw a huge 100+ kw battery and call it long range, but the weight will cause so many problems to customer very soon..
This strikes me as a car for people who don't really want a car. They like tech and want a transportation appliance that reflects that. Think about the person who would spend extra on their fridge to be able to play Angry Birds on it, and that's the target
As an EQE owner this is kinda harsh to watch. Everything criticized here is true, but a lot of these things change if you just daily drive it for a while and a lot of good aspects about the car are completely missing. What it kinda misses is how great this thing is for daily traffic use. Before this I had current gen E/C classes and an EQC and the EQE drives better than all of those by a quite big margin. It‘s insanely comfortable, the tech works really well and is state of the art (the driving assistants are the best I have used), it handles so much better than a regular E class or even the C class coupe I had, which is probably because of the better weight distribution. Some things take a while to get used to (especially all the touch stuff), but I did and now it‘s just an absolute pleasure to drive this thing or sometimes be driven by it (in heavy traffic) and it‘s pretty easy to use. I also love stuff like the digital light projections, Ambient light etc. More than I thought I would. Some of these features really take a while to get used to and I think experiencing this as a daily is a whole other thing than trying to review it in a small amount of time. The test kinda missed a lot of the great features this car has and focused on the basics and obvious things too much. It‘s all the features that really make it - combined with excellent efficiency/really good range and the comfort while still being able to drive fast. To be fair mine is fully specced out and has every feature. What really is bad is the plastic on the doors and all the piano black stuff, but I quickly just didn‘t care, which is really weird, because I dieliked that a lot. The new touch steering wheel is also just like the old one but with more touch and less buttons - which makes no sense and is just a downgrade. The design is weird (but kinda grew on me - which is probably, because I have the much better looking 21 inch wheels and a fully blacked out car).
The "it becomes less bad once you drive it for a while" is not really an argument when it doesn't offer anything over the existing solution. Examples the moving brake pedal and all the touchscreen BS.
Still, I beloeve you that it is very comfortable and composed when driving around. But I guess it is about the same with every new platform generation.
A Corolla hybrid is also great for daily traffic use. So is almost every current gen EV on the market right now. Doesnt justify the rest of the negatives. I can understand its not a bad car, I dont see what it offers over the competition, apart from the Benz badge.
@@grigorioschristodoulou5229 you are right. But I also thought that the previous steering wheel was perfect. This one is worse, but still good. The moving brake pedal isn‘t less bad after a while, it‘s actually good. Touchscreen is also pretty good to use even though I would prefer to have a few more buttons, but even the way it is is very nice to use imo.
@@xzst While I have only briefly been in a Tesla, I am pretty sure the Benz is built 100 times better. And even if I would get a perfectly assembled Tesla, I just despise people and businesses that try to get away with sub-par quality. And compared to other EVs, the EQE has probably got some of the best acoustics. I just don't get MBUX with all the gradients and glitter, the silly 🐅 gargling sound etc.
Things that look better than the EQE/EQS: The 2006 Civic it appears to mostly be modeled on. The used bar of soap it also seems to be modeled on. The Chevy Spark. The Kia Soul. Every other EV available, the Smart ED having passed on. The abstract Tesla key fob. The pile of excrement a dog left in my yard last week. This chode on wheels depresses me. The car as an object of passion, or even as an independent consumer good, is gone. In its place is a government regulation-defined mobility solution serving as a platform for heavily overpriced, woefully underdeveloped and quickly outdated mobile entertainment tech.
I think these will age very well and become a much better proposition in the used car market. I personally like the styling. When I'm ready for an ev in like 10 years I'll be looking at these.
Many of us are still analog and car manufacturers are trying to suffocate us with digital(computerized) cars. The fake noise should not be generated inside the car but projected forward to warn pedestrians "look out, here I come!" I live in California and this state is pushing electrified vehicles in a state that has inadequate power grid. As usual Mark and Jack cover vehicles warts and all with the humor we need in today's environment we live in.
They're not "trying to suffocate" you. Merc is giving more options. It's the *literal* antithesis of what you're claiming. Their older platforms will die off and at that point I'm sure you'll still find an "AnAlOg" Mitsubishi Mirage or something. (Electric vehicles charge during periods of grid underutilization to save money and to more efficiently use the power grid.)
@@tim3172 It will be long time for things to settle out and become practical for the bulk of the population that drives. Talked yesterday to Uber driver whose nephew had a company car/gas credit card. His mother gave him a Tesla and his power bill increased $200/month from what he was paying. Big picture I see your point but will take 20+ years to really see where we will be. I will either not be driving or in the ground by then since will be well over 90.
My Tesla Model 3 does that 'brake pedal takeaway' thing now after the latest software update. It is EXTREMELY disconcerting and I turned it off. Absolutely stupid feature carmakers are putting in. Feels like the car is unsafe. I know what they are trying to do, but it is badly implemented.
It‘s funny how different experiences are. I really like it in the EQE, but it‘s also really well executed. The pedal also moves when you use driving assistants
I would call modern cars neurotic and thus an expression of our times. They are a road safety hazard like a shireking codriver always knowing better. Dangerous stuff is made for style. Surely those products are also conditoning mentally, so the dementia goes both ways.
I can assure you that the Tesla brake pedal does NOT move. The Model 3 uses straight hydraulic Brembo brakes. What you may be describing is how regen is affected when it nears a full SOC.
I'm starting to realize our kids who play with screens all day long will be so used to this technology when they start driving. Interesting interesting
