2023 Ram HD 6.4L Hemi VS 2023 Ram HD 6.7L Cummins: Is The Diesel Really Better? 

How can the price difference be so high for you? I don’t want to call BS on you but is it possible that you’re maybe stretching the facts a bit here? I live in Canada where we are much more heavily taxed on fuel and diesel is only 6.9 cents more per litre here in my area right now (about 26 cents per us gallon…)?? I’m not a math or an economics whiz but according to my (flawed?🤔) calculations, your stated price difference works out to around 37 cents per litre. That’s a 5.3X higher price difference. Doesn’t seem logical. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@DanielSon69 here in the US not communist Canada Diesel is between $1.20 to $2.50 more per gallon depending on what state you live in. The liberals in California decided diesel is dirty so they put more taxes on manufacturing diesel and the prices we gallon. It sucks and I hope we the people take back the country soon from these evil liberals. In the US we are taxed by the state and the federal government. “We are taxed twice it adds up”, you can call BS but you will feel really crispy when you realize everyone in the US pays average of $1.50 more per gallon for diesel over gas.

What that’s absolutely trash on a diesel engine my duramax it’s 70 bucks to fill and last me weeks.

@@DanielSon69in Saskatchewan summer of 2022. Gas was 40 cents cheaper then diesel. 2$ diesel. 1.60$ gas

The experience of someone that owns both is invaluable. Thanks for sharing!

For someone who reviews/ sells these vehicles for a living he should have already known that!😂😅

In Canada I have seen the 6.7 get 22 mph you have to let the diesel get up to temperature to maximize fuel efficiency

@@wildmanofthewynooch7028most people drive their trucks around town

Or just do a DEF and DPF delete. That's what I did lol Left my EGR intact

@RU-vidrs with long RU-vid names are interesting it expands the longevity of your truck. These emission systems recycle the exhaust back into your engine so its less pollutant. Delete it and you won't run into any issues with your system failing because that mess gets expensive.

@Kevin that’s more of a suggestion

Not in california you can get fine and criminal chargers for it since they pushing zero emission vehicles. I own a 1500 duramax 2 years already and is super reliable I save a lot on gas making a lot of mpg and never had any issues with def. I can’t speak for Cummins def though but I don’t know why I read a lot of problems with rams the truck looks beautiful and I had commercial Cummins before they super heavy duty def would break as if you were doing some heavy duty businesses like hauling containers or such. But I don’t thing for the regular folk def wouldn’t bother as much.

You could get a fine in any state for delete but then again what are the chances since speed limits are now just a recommendation pretty much

You get used to it fast. My 19 PW was the first year with it.

Don't waste your money 5500 all day 3500 maybe 15,000

Just for show

Not even just towing, doing 20+ miles a day would justify a diesel as well.

Yeah & while you’re at it why even bother w/ a 1/2 ton? Most people don’t even tow close to max w/ those either may as well get a Tacoma….actually that gets shitty mpg, yeah should get a Subaru instead😂😂😂😂😂

Lol

They are tuned very differently. The 6.4 in scatpack is tuned for HP versus the truck is tuned for torque. I believe the hellcats are using a 6.2 hemi with a supercharger.

Have fun waiting

They ain't coming down anytime soon. I just bought one today and best advice us find a simple interest loan and pay a little extra to pay off principle quicker.

I have one and I love it!

Definitely have heard complaints about the Ford’s 10 speed constantly hunting for years.

When I tow with my 6.4 I lock out 8th gear. And I can pull my 24’ cattle trailer loaded or my 30’ equipment trailer

@@srad98ful Does it hunt for gear less if you lock out 8th?

@@fivesfilms it wants to go between 7th and 8th. So yes. With tow haul mode on and lock out 8th it’s perfect the rpm’s are right in the power band

@@srad98ful Good tip. I will try that next week when I work.

They want to keep the GVWR at 10,000lbs in the 3/4 ton set up in order to comply with many states’ commercial licensing laws. The 3/4 ton category is pigeon holed to that GVWR and the diesel engines from all makes suck the payload out of the 3/4 category. Simply need to step up to 1 ton trucks to get your buck out of a diesel truck.

I've loaded well past the 1700lb in the back of my 22 Ram 6.7L CCSB 4x4. They just derate these trucks for the weight compliance for licensing and stuff. I load pallets of seed for corn, beans, wheat, and never had a problem. Heck, we put a pallet of cement mix in the back, and it only leveled the trucks suspension a bit.

They absolutely derate the truck’s actual abilities for the GVWR compliance, but don’t get in an accident while hauling over the sticker weight. It becomes a much more difficult legal situation for you. It also makes the actual payload limit a mystery. The rear coil springs of the 2500 aren’t going to give the same capacity as the 3500 leaf springs, so where do you draw the line? The capabilities of the Cummins engine give a bit of a misleading impression of what the truck can safely do.

Don't have to do anything, RAM has already done everything. You just don't need to wrap yourself up on the nameplates, but look at the technique! If a person does not heavily load his truck, why torture him and shake his soul out of him with a stiff spring suspension without load ??? Here is a more comfortable coil spring! Need to load? Well, take 3500, and there already with Dully, even without them! Take the same PW. A lot of people said - Hey damn attractive truck! But we do not need so many off-road capabilities, but the payload is poor. And in general we want a diesel! RAM cuts off some off-road capabilities, adds cargo capacity, retains the looks, a wide range of options (LImited or Longhorn with HEMI not currently available), and here's the REBEL! So everything is wonderful! RAM has a truck for every taste and color!

Correct, the diesel weighs alot more for sure

@@malcolmn.5222 Yes sir, it does. But you think both trucks should be at 10k? All I'm saying is ram keeps the GVWR for the 2500 the same for registration/dot purposes instead of capability of the truck configuration.

There are more differences than you think. They are paired to different transmissions, but both are smooth and quiet. The cummins 2500 has hydroboost brakes and the hemi has vacuum. People complain about the mushy brake feel of the hemi version where they have to floor the pedal to get it to stop. You can google this. The cummins also has a different exhaust system, obviously, and that wouldn't be worth noting except for the fact that the hemi cat pipes have some kind of design oversight that makes them squeal a bit like a worn serpentine belt.

I just had to buy a new Jasper-made hemi on my 2015 2500 after only 120K! Full-time towing about 9,000 lbs but still...

Have owned 5 Cummins and still on a 98 12 valve that’s still a farm truck. My last diesel was a 2015 and I put 320000 miles before I dropped a valve. I just purchased a 2021 ram 6.4l with the 4:10 gears. The emissions are killing diesels. I went with the gas and I tow a 30’ gooseneck equipment trailer and a 24’ cattle trailer. This is comparison in these days with diesel fuel being higher

How can he get a comparison going around the block once ??? Waste of time !!

This comment is old school and completely irrelevant..Both will outlast the rest of the truck.

Not with all the epa parts. Delete it and yes

handily... is that a word?

@@tired_brickmason34 absolutely it is

Disagree, diesel will last much longer, resale value will be much higher as well. A dodge gasser loses value faster than any other truck brand.

@@ThatGuy-de8nq these new diesel trucks are just a pain in the butt to work with. I got the 6.4 also for that reason.

@@tired_brickmason34 I guess I'll keep my 5.9 forever