2023 Taylormade Irons Comparison - P7MC, P770, P790 & Stealth - Head 2 Head GC Quad Test 

Great point about the swing speed 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

This is a great review, loved the in dept analysis. I just got fitted for p770s yesterday, my average descent angle was 45 degrees so glad to hear you say that… Subscribed!

I really enjoy the videos Ross, keep them coming👍

Great explanations!

One of the best videos I've watched...well done

Great video Ross! Love the way you break down the data!

Great review thanks!

Really enjoying your channel, only found it yesterday, subbed.

Wow. Great review. I've watched hundreds of hours of reviews and fitting and this was one of the most informative and more real life situational.

Super helpful, thank you! Getting fitted at a TaylorMade demo day next month.

This was really a good, in-depth review. Nice explanation of the trade-offs between the ball data generated by the different heads and why simply going for raw distance is quite likely not in one's best interest. Glad to see someone swinging closer to what the majority of us swing, and not carrying the ball unattainable distances. Sub'ed.

Lots of great information here. 👍🏼

Fantastic review targeted at your average golfer. Best Taylormade iorns review that I have seen and I have watched quite a few videos. Martin

Really great review!

Lots of good nuggets of info in here from an iron fitting perspective with the numbers

Excellent point about club delivery being such a critical variable.

Awesome video.

Another great video ❤ there was me saying about people having the same swing speed means nothing lol all I got to do now is book a fitting. I will be in touch. Many thanks.

Fantastic video

Good review. Pretty awesome how much height you were able to consistently achieve with such low on the face strikes. Awesome to see how efficient and effective technology has become in the golf world

Went into the p7mc last year from the p760 and i absolutely love these irons i know theres a niche market for them but superb irons

Fantastic test and explanation of what is going on with different heads. Also ever so useful to see it done at average swing speed. What I found especially helpful was the evidence that a weaker loft may not automatically produce greater peak height and a steeper descent angle. It depends on swing speed. If you were to swing the 7 iron at 90-91 mph, then you might get greater peak height and the steepest descent angle of the group. But at 80 mph you simple are not generating enough ball speed to make the ball go far enough to get the peak height high enough to produce a descent angle over 45 degrees. I realize this is happening to me. I play solid forged blades with a 34 degree 7 iron. They are lovely irons, Chicago Classics by Evans design, almost identical to the Mizuno MP-33 irons I had for many years. Good players with fast swing speeds who try them at the range love the feel and flight. But at age 82 I am now struggling not only with carry distance but also with peak height and getting the descent angle to be higher than 38 - 39 degrees. Over 40 just once in a while. I got these clubs because the pro and club maker at my range had boxes of these heads from years past, new and unhit, and had put a set together for someone else who backed out. So I got 3 iron through GW and SW with Royal Precision Rifle Lite 120 gram stiff shafts for (drum roll) just $100. Yes, $100. A bargain I could not resist. I added a LW later. As those shafts are now too heavy for me, I had him make up a second set of the same heads 3 through 9, with 87.5 gram Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 stiff shafts. Ran me about $375. Can swing those faster but still struggle with carry, peak height and descent angle. Apologies for the detail, but it proves your point made with the TM irons. So in your fitting I would be the customer who should go with either the 770 or 790. But probably not the Stealth because as both you and AskGolfNut have demonstrated, the descent angle with those extra strong lofts is so low the ball will roll out and not stop on the green. You are 100% right, getting a good fitting is critical to finding the head and shaft combination that gets your 7 iron coming down at least at 43-44 degrees with a decent peak height and carry. Not just the longest carry. I suppose the holy grail would be if you have two irons with the same peak and descent angle, then you would pick the one that gives a consistent extra 3 or 4 yards of carry, and/or better dispersion and perhaps even feel and sound. So many thanks for this eye opening lesson.

I'm glad you took a minute to address the "consistency issue" with irons. I heard what you proposed on what a "flyer" is but you did not address or mention why I and others feel are causing flyers with these distance hollow body clubs. And that factor is, the foam insert in these clubs. You can see from a lot of the indoor studio tests done, these clubs do or can have a much higher disperssion in distance. Like to hear your thoughts on this or maybe do your own deeper dive on it and show us your results. Thanks

Brilliant review and have instantly subscribed, tech heaven 👍. Will be 60 this year and seriously considering the 770's and dropping to stiff shafts, the only thing I'm worried about is the spin being to low to hold greens. Playing callaway apex mb with x shafts, but Idamaged my left knee in the summer and now struggling to get distance and hight (absolute opposite to normal)

That was a great in depth review. I think where fitters get a bad rap is it’s so easy to get numbers into their favour. Kind of like going into an auto repair shop. You haven’t a clue, and they can take whatever they want or lead you wherever they want really. People should learn more so they can be a part of the fitting because their swing is unique, and they are the only one who really understands it to a degree. I’ve had too many bad experiences with busy shops rushing me through, putting me in the wrong category of player. You seem to be thorough and honest, and I wish you were around my area. Thanks

Great vid, unreal detail and explanation. What would the stats on the MC look like if you had to hit a club that kept up with the stealth? You’d have to hit a 5i in the MC? What would the spin numbers and decent angle look like on that? I’d love to see a comparison vid where someone hits different clubs to the same yardage. So it might be a 7i in the MC and P770, 8i in the P790 and 9i in the stealth. Cheers

Brother you make me such a better golfer. Cheers

Hi, your videos are awesome! It would be interesting to hear what good figures ( Attack angle, peak hight- angle of descend...) should look like with a 7 iron. You should really continue with your YT-channel, because your videos are unique. Thanks for the content.

Awesome video. Just subscribed to the channel 👍. If possible. Would love to see how P770 and P7MC compare to the Miura KM 700 and TC 201

Great review. I wonder what shaft flex were they, regular or stiff?

best review I have seen. Would you say the Stealth is more forgiving overall and therefore better suited for higher handicap golfers?

I play the Taylor made speedblades and looking to get a new set. Was looking to combo p790/p770/p7mc. But lofts are a mess. Current 7i carry IS 142, spin 5500 (indoors)

That may be the best club review I've ever seen. I may have missed it, but beyond the distance dispersion, was there much difference in side to side dispersion? I'm guessing not much given your consistent face angle, but from others' reviews some clubs either seem to spray wider, or have a greater tendency to result in a draw vs fade

Hi, Just a quick couple of observations: I think it's great to make the club comparisons at the same 'slow' swing speed, however; the kind of players that would use / choose the Stealth are likely struggling with consistent club contact and because of this, and maybe a similar or even slower swing speed, they could never dream of hitting the 170 yd mark with any 'normal' iron in the bag, let alone a 7 iron; they would also likely find they cannot get any further or reliably hit a 6 iron and certainly not a 5 iron. So, for example, my more elderly playing colleague, for whom I recommended the use of the Stealth irons, is now absolutely made up with their performance, ease of hitting and distance. Also, in order to get to the 170yd mark with say the P7MC, you probably would need to hit a 5 iron, which, for some players, has the problems already mentioned above and would in any case lose spin and launch angle bringing it closer toward the Stealth 7 iron. I'd love to see a review of an 80 mph swing speed on a P7MC 5 iron and see the flight and distance characteristics; I'm sure they would be pretty poor even when compared to the Stealth 7 iron - I think It's important to consider the person who might use these different clubs when you are doing a low swing speed comparison and their inherent capabilities as well as pointing out the 'ideal' launch and landing numbers you'd want at a fitting. No offence, it's just my two cents worth of considerations on the reality I've seen on the course of ageing / struggling players who still think they should be able to hit the ball as far as they did 35 yrs ago becoming really disillusioned and unhappy with their game and not trying out any of the latest 'club improvement irons' that maybe produce sub optimal numbers but which could bring back a big smile 🙂to their faces when they crack even a 150 yd 7 iron onto the par 3 green for the first time in years rather than trying to use wood or even the driver off the tee for the same effect. ru-vid.comgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f642.png

Love the video! I am thinking about setting up a combo with 790 and 770's. I am a pro, but I am unsure to what extent to combo. Should i do 3-5 P790 and rest 770? What would you recommend? Thanks!

Great video!! Curious!! Which iron do you think is more forgiving out of the P770 vs Mizuno Pro 225? Then the winner vs P790? I wish they had revamped the P790 with the P770 instead of waiting until fall 2023 !!

Nice Video! I'd love to see you test all 4 irons but try to match the lofts. Like what happens if you take the 8 iron stealth vs the 7 iron p790? I see the 8 iron stealth is 32 degrees. P770 7 iron is 33 degrees. I bet there would be some interesting numbers on launch, spin, distance, and efficiency. As someone who does spin the ball too much, seeing the difference in the two clubs when loft is nearly identical could really help the average golfer who can game but maybe has too much spin or not enough.

Ross What difference do you feel between your 80 mph swing & your normal iron swing speed ??

It seems like you really should be testing the stealth 8 iron vs. a 7 iron for the rest.

Interesting how testing is done with the same numbers on the bottom of the clubs rather than the distance that has to be achieved. If the pin is 170yds surely testing should be done with clubs that can achieve that distance at the 80mph swing speed. I think that may give interesting data to compare.

If you have a higher handicap customer who gets the same numbers you did with the stealth then what do you do to adjust? Different club...different loft...different ball?

I have the stealth and it's bent 3 degrees weak and I get plenty of spin and height and little roll out.

What is too much efficiency? I got driver form a fitting that I hit 1.46 is that too much?

Which is more forgiving the P7MC or the P770?

Mizuno or TM for you?

770 is super sexy!

I think Cobra has ruined me,t he offset on these irons all look offputting