Really great to see an Australian road trip with a current standard Model Y. Clear and concise with relevant stats. And beautiful scenery. A pleasure to watch
Did this same trip both ways in a BYD Atto3 LR. On the return SY-CB (uphill +700m) recharged to 92% at Campbelltown on the outskirts of SY using a free charge. Enroute the range indicator showed we could easily make the Canberra airport charger so drove non-stop. Arrived at Canberra Airport with 18% (about 80km). Not to cut things too fine, after 15min charge (to 30%) at the EVie charger, went home for a slow overnight charge. The return trip was easily done in one day without the need for enroute charging. Really no different to ICE except you need to know where to get charged at each end. Free chargers are free but including billed power use the energy cost was about $12 on the CB-SY leg and $10 on the return leg. We spent more on coffee.
Loving the as delivered 2023 configuration information and 'how it works and looks in Australia' info. Well done 👌 They really need to step up their supercharging roll-out in au, wondering if they have regulatory road blocks/hard to find megawatt grid access points.
Check out my thoughts in this video: TESLA MODEL Y VS BYD ATTO 3 Australia 2023 Comparison and Differences ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cyT4c4yTvNI.html
This is the stuff Aussies need. Now we know a fully loaded Model Y STD range gets about 350 klms at 110 kph on a full charge. There are all sorts of variables of course but this is a good benchmark for motorway driving. Well done. Just for your information I did a return trip in a Model 3 from Canberra to Bega a couple of years back. It was powered by Canberra solar and Cooma Hydro which was cool. The trip up and down the Brown Mountain was interesting. It is an 8 klm drop of about 800 metres. On the way down it added 20 kilometres of range and going up it used 40 kilometres of range. A distance of 16 kilometres at a net loss of only 4 klms of range. Regenerative braking is amazing.
If stopping at Sutton Forest/Exeter, why not do the 100 metre detour to maccas on the Sutton Forest side (i.e. the northbound side)? Even if you don't charge there for the purposes of your test drive, it's nice to see 4 chargers in the background, and usually at least 3 of them work. If you just want a little bit of power to get around once you arrive in Canberra, it's the best option. Once the superchargers at Exeter (i.e. the southbound side) open, it'll be a short walk to the southbound Maccas. Though given how much of their limited space they're giving up, I'd rather have a pie. Plus I'm not sure anyone ever mows the ditch between the two, so there's a slight risk of snakes if you take the shortcut.
We did our first road trip in our 2022 Y RWD blue from Brisbane to south of Sydney. It was a breeze, zero range issues. We planned it casually online before hand but changed plans a few times with zero issues. We even skipped the final charge recommendation and got home with 17% (Tesla charger version 3 at home), it got back to 100% easily before we drove it again the next day.
@@LudicrousFeed Also the absolute best place to drive it on hilly freeway/roads! We went through a couple of the hilly areas south of Sydney and it's just so much fun to drive up and down steeper inclines while every other vehicle around you is struggling to get up and riding the brakes hard going down :) Even with four adults, two dogs, and the back and front 99% full of luggage it just cruises along with-out a care in the world :)
Thanks for a nice video and interesting to see scenes from "the other side" of the world. And as a Swede I appreciate to hear and see everything in kilometers. There are many other good video makers but most of them are from GB or US and miles are a struggle when trying to understand distance, speed and efficiency. And also thanks for so generously sharing your spreadsheet. I will use it when I start to drive fully electric soon. Now I am "only" hybrid driving because I have a company car, but in about a year I will be a "Tesla-boy" too. Australia is on my bucket list so to see how EV driving works in your enormous country is interesting.
Thanks Stefan, our vast landscape has its challenges for EV adoption but can make for a very rewarding journey wherever you travel! Hope you get your EV soon
It seems that at both places the charging spots were close to 100% full.... This is my main issue with buying a Tesla, they are very popular and the charging network hasn't really accommodated the sales boom. They need to install a heap to allow people to feel less worried about having to wait for ages to charge up when on a trip.... like they have with fuel stations.
During non-holiday periods there’s usually enough capacity for the DC charging network to cope but yes I agree during peak charging periods you may have to wait …
Hi Tom, Can you fill me in on the EV user tax? If i buy one before 2027 i don't have to pay the tax is that right. And is there any discount for pensioners? It is so hard to find any info and with the change of government, things could change again. I drive 170km a day and i am thinking if an EV is worth it for me and the battery life if i am charging 3x a week will it last.
Check out the appendix section of this document where it outlines the current rebates/incentives for each state: www.dcceew.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/national-electric-vehicle-strategy.pdf In NSW, under current policy, if your vehicle was given a stamp duty exemption before 2027, then you will have to pay the EV road user charge. The reverse is also true such that if you pay stamp duty pre-2027 then your vehicle is exempt from the RUC. The RWD Model has a real world highway range of 350km as I have proven in this video so in your case you should be ok driving 170km each day and charging 3x weekly provided one of those sessions is a 100% top up for BMS calibration in a LFP battery ie. RWD Model 3/Y
Is it worth the value and price? I mean is it reliable? Service cost? Servicr iintervals? Does battery freeze up on very cold days? Electricity goes higher charging the car everynight? Do you have to charge it to 100% before use? I heard you need to charge it at 80-90% not to a full 100% charge to prevent premature wear on batteries? Would you get a hybrid instead such as a rav4 hybrid? Than a ev?
- Total cost of ownership is better accounting for rising and fluctuating cost of petrol vs relatively stable home electricity tariff - Reliability? Yes. Charge at home and gets me to where I need to be. - Tesla doesn’t have service schedules. Book a service within the app if any issues - It doesn’t get cold enough in my neck of the woods to be concerned about cold temps. I’ve driven a Tesla in -20C in the US and it starts up ok. The only caveat is that it takes a long time to warm the battery before charging when ambient temp is cold. In which case I’d keep it plugged in each night. - you don’t need to have it charged to 100% before each use. Just ensure you have enough charge for what you need each day - whether you charge to 80% or 100% regularly depends on your battery chemistry. NMC/NCA: 80% | LFP: 100% - I have driven relatively large distances with the family ie. Syd Mel Bne Ade and it’s been quite easy finding chargers on the main arterials so for this reason, no I wouldn’t buy a RAV4. One of the best things about owning an EV is not needing to go to a petrol station each week 🏆💪
Love your videos as always Tom but Sydney to Canberra is a day trip not a road trip! If you can drive there without charging it isn’t a road trip! 😂.. seriously though keep up the good work 😊
There are plenty of superchargers north of Coffs Harbour. Maclean is the main one, then 3rd party ones near Gold Coast airport, Kingscliff, Coolangatta, Miami and Pacific Fair which is a Tesla charger. Guess is depends on how far north you mean. I did a trip from Kingscliff to Canberra and back a few months ago with no problems at all.
Great question. Presumably the account and subsequent payment method that the Tesla is attached to has been set up by the owner and therefore ready to start Supercharging at anytime.
Hi Tom, Congrats on the new MY Performance. You may know already but going down to Canberra gains altitude and obviously reverse on return. We did another Sydney Northern Beaches to Canberra return trip in our Ioniq 5 RWD over Easter and results were consistent with a year ago i.e going down used around 78% due to altitude gain while on return only 68%. Around 320km each way. Did involve a few minor detours in both directions but while on highway we were driving at max speed limit. You can watch the efficiency drop significantly when increasing speed from 100 to 110! Did not recharge en route as visiting relatives so just plugged in granny charger during our 6 day stay
Really like the look of the owua 6D Tesla Compatible Invisible Foldaway Car Mount (MagSafe). Did you install it as per their video by tucking in the charge cable and plugging into one of the rear ports?
You can use your Tesla account as your profile so that way you can port your settings across different vehicles. I may consider doing a video on this …
Great video thanks Tom. I recently did my first road trip in our rwd Y here in NZ. The autopilot made me a little nervous. About 3 or 4 times it just randomly hit the brakes really hard with no traffic in front. Have you experienced this at all? I mean to ask Tesla about this at local dealership. Apart from that it's a lovely, comfy vehicle to travel in. Cheers.
Can you help me understand the levels of autopilot - if you buy the base version can you upgrade later? Does that involve a computer replacement or is it just software? We just hired a MY through evee and it was the base model and I would have liked the lane change feature . I also want to choose a vehicle that will last, so if it’s a different computer, I wonder if it’s worthwhile. Thanks!
Check out my video explaining basic AP vs EAP vs FSD in Australia: MODEL 3 Y ENHANCED AUTOPILOT VS BASIC VS FULL SELF DRIVING AUSTRALIA ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DrA6wQ0zdNk.html
In my experience I’ve rarely had to wait. They are predictably busy around public holiday long weekends and school holidays eg Good Friday, Boxing Day, King’s Bday, Labour Day etc
Hello, I have ordered the wheel caps you suggested and it’s been more than two weeks now and still didn’t receive them. When I ordered, it looked like a company from USA and expected a 7-9 days for delivery. It happens to be a company from Singapore and service provider they use for delivery doesn’t update the delivery date and I am wondering if the company is serious and can be trusted. I live in Canada and can understand that the delivery takes some time, but it’s quite stressful to pay 400$ for something and don’t receive any update on delivery. I wrote them a few times and was told they had put a rush on it, but since then no updates were made on the delivery tracker. Any input you can provide?
First time your channel has hit my suggestions, which as a 11yr EV driver is a surprise. Absolutely love it, subbed. Your spreadsheet and data focus is right up my street. Will be looking at your other videos now. Great work. Thanks (from 🏴)
@@LudicrousFeed thank you for the quick reply. I was asking because some people say that the suspension is one of the differences between LR and SR. But as I know all MY have an upgraded suspension starting 2023. Great vid btw!
Why do you charge at 80 percent? I heard and read online that tesla recommends charging lfp to 100 percent. I pick up my model y next Friday, so just wondering why you're charging to 80
Good question. Yes Tesla recommends 100% charging “regularly” for battery calibration. I do this at home when I can plug it overnight and I don’t have to wait for it. You don’t HAVE to always charge to 100% especially when you’re at a public charger. The last 20% is always the slowest as the charge rate plateaus so it’s actually more time efficient to drive on and wait until the car reaches that sweet spot of the charge curve between 20-80% to recharge again at a faster rate. This is best practice when on a road trip. That way you’re also not taking up a stall during busy periods. I hope this makes sense
Hi Tom, Awesome video, as always, and congrats on your new Y (good choice of colour, BTW). I'm also with Powershop and didn't know they have an EV plan. Do you know if it's still available?
Great video :) I was wondering what camera you are using? After watching your many videos, I was wondering if there is an option in the navigation that shows the nearest Tesla charger as you drive along or is this information obtained from a third party app on the phone?
@@LudicrousFeed I'm looking forward to getting me one now. Worth investing in the Enhanced Autopilot in your opinion? I know there are plenty of videos out there about it
Been looking forward to your first trip in the Y. I am finally picking my Y up next Tuesday from their Mt Gravatt office and have a Canberra trip planned in May as well 🤙😀🚘 great Aop update as well.. do you want to ever do a Mr frugal road trip prioritising $/kw and charge rate rather than only superchargers?
Oh! So much better compared to previous Model Y RWDs I’ve driven. I prefer the slightly firmer feel than the floatier feel of the Atto 3. Watch my delivery video where I had further commentary on the suspension: RWD Tesla Model Y Delivery Day in Sydney Australia | Q2 April 2023 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TEaCTCliMh8.html
Good stuff. Might be a bit awkward with someone in the passenger seat, but can I suggest mounting a camera on the left hand side to get a good view of the windscreen, dash and touchscreen as well as the screen, as the touchscreen is a bit dominating in this video. I know that is the point, that you are explaining how to use the Tesla screen and functionality which is really useful, but it would also be good to get an appreciation of the road trip from the passenger's point of view.
Yup check out my vid and don’t forget to use my code TESLATOM for $30 off your first rental 😃 HOW TO RENT A TESLA IN AUSTRALIA GUIDE to evee car sharing Model 3 & Y ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1xOcZWR_Smg.html
The car initially had McDonald’s as the destination because the app passes the geographic coordinates, not the address, business name, point of interest, etc…, and McDonald’s was closest to those coordinates.
New subscriber here.Just recently ordered the rear wheel here in NZ,was really wanting the long range one but it’s not available to this day here and the performance version is just way too much.All your videos have been really helpful in making this decision.Awesome work Tom 👌👍
Another great video. Consice and packed with useful info. Just one question, why did you not recharge to 100% in Canberra before you started your trip back to Sydney and instead decided to charge in Goulburn?
We didn’t have EV charging at our accommodation so instead of waiting at the Canberra supercharger to get to 100% we decided to keep the car between 20-80% to get the maximum charging rate on our return journey. I’ll show the LFP charging curve in a future vid 👍
I was thinking of buying a Y for trips between Newcastle and Sydney. I would like to do this trip return without charging. I don't think this is possible without quite a lot of anxiety. 318km return (about 240km freeway round trip). Thoughts?
It'd be very close - as you saw I managed to get to Canberra without charging with 15% to spare so yes theoretically you could probably make it depending on your range anxiety tolerance 😁
@@LudicrousFeed thanks for the reply. I'm thinking I'd need a 3 LR, but I'm wedded to the idea of a Y. Still sitting on the sidelines until a Y with more range eventuates. The Y LR isn't enough of a step up for the court IMHO.
Total DC charging time 76 mins. So an equivalent ICE trip would depend on long you think you’d need to stop for petrol and amenities (toilets, food etc) Driving time would be the same as I was mostly cruising at the speed limit
Ooh nice to have planning from the app! Would have been useful when I had to try and explain tech to my parents from the backseat, they could have just handed me the phone instead. XD Although they got practice using the screen themselves so that was good. We've figured out the best way to use the screen is when there is a front passenger involved, preferably with some basic tech knowhow or experience so the driver doesn't have to take their eyes off the road. Need to look into the subaccounts at some point next time I go road tripping with them since I can't just ask them for the keys when I want to grab something from the car anymore which was something I really didn't think about until I went road tripping with them and then they are fumbling trying to combat the glare on their phone. It's the little things that get you.
@@LudicrousFeed Good to know. :) Although I currently can't drive it until I'm 30 for insurance reasons. XD For real though, it's because the phantom braking makes them nervous particularly if there is a truck behind them on the highway so they tend to drive with their foot over accelerator just in case they have to override it, although it's been getting much better I hear. On the flip side regardless of regenerative braking Mum insists on hovering foot over the brake at stops and pedestrian crossings for safety in case you get bumped from behind and accidentally hit the accelerator, so move foot according to situation... In the mean time I have an ebike and 30 isn't that far away so I'm not too fussed. Also I imagine some parents with younger kids might be happy to give them the ability to open the car but little else. So... I can't be the only one who wants to be able to quickly open the car without needing the keys to the castle as well.
@@LudicrousFeed Yeah I also run mud flaps and rim covers, I found with the two combined I got about 13% less range. And the roof racks (when empty) make it lose another 7-8% range. When driving from VIC to QLD I put it all back to stock for the 20% increase in range though.
Hey Tom, great video again. I have a Model Y LR and I've done a lot of reading on the best way to charge for everyday driving and I still don't believe I have a definitive answer. Clearly AC and slow is best, but when it comes to plugging in every night (and possibly charging only 10% back up to 70% or 80%) vs every handful of days plugging in when SOC gets down to somewhere between 30 and 50% and charging back up to 70% or 80% I can't see which is clearly best. What do you do, and why?
From my understanding it’s good to do a deep cycle every now to calibrate the battery management system so that you can get a more accurate reading of your range. However there’s not much difference in terms of optimising battery degradation whichever way you choose. Best to decide based on what’s convenient. When we used to own a NCA Model 3 P, we used to plug in every couple of days when the SoC dropped below 50% and top to 80% each time
Poor kitty 😹 For everyone else, please note this is intended to be a joke. I do not condone animal cruelty nor am I suggesting I packed the cat. The fur is from my daughter’s jacket 🧥😁
Sorry, noobie in EVs here.. how come your charge limit is 80%? Isn’t one of the advantages of an LFP battery is the ability to charge to 100% without impact to battery life/health? Thanks in advance.
I charged the rest at the hotel where I was staying overnight. The last 80-100% part of the charge cycle is much slower than 0-80% Also take note that some busy stations will automatically limit charge to 80%
I always drive my model S 85 to achieve Wh/hr less than 200, most of the time I'm at 165 to 180 and this projects to an actual 423 Km range. I drive from Melbourne's SE suburbs to Cowes Phillip Island quiet often and I keep my speed below 100Km/hr. I can easily do 1.5 round trips (112Km each way) with 25% charge left. My car has free supercharging for life although I have never had to use it yet.
23:07 the Spreadsheet shows on line 7 that you used 16% of the battery doing just 26km, 26km is 16 miles. This would suggest it was using 1% of the battery per mile, is this normal for town driving?
It was a lot of stop start driving around seeing the sights. We also parked overnight in a basement carpark with Sentry Mode on which does drain the battery
Great Video, but the direct fuel cost comparison wont be accurate unless adding the cost of the vehicle, the trip can be done with a $30K ice car compared to $70K Tesla, in that context you already paid premium upfront for the EV and you wont recover your fuel cost even in 10years.
As a none Tesla owner but looking to buy, I have a question. At 06:10 your screen shows a car coming up the left side of you, but there is a concrete wall there, but sure enough a few seconds later the car appears from the end of the concrete wall, how did your car 'see' it and know it was there? Am I right in thinking the sensors aren't just cameras then, they must be some kind of metal detecting sonars 🤔
Good review, however it would be good to see the overall cost. I have a Rav4 hybrid and am looking at a MY RWD but I think with your trip there are other costs. The Rav4 can do Syd-Can return without stopping. In the MY you've stopped and assume purchased food etc, simply because you're waiting and not because you actually need too. So if you have a family of 4 say, the Rav4 will cost around $80, but the MY will likely cost more like $100 when you factor in $30 on the way there and $30 on the way back. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the MY, as I said I'm looking to get one, but just comparing $ for 'fuel' doesn't tell the entire story. Love your content still though.
Well actually we stopped in Sutton Forest because we genuinely needed lunch. We didn’t charge at all between Sydney and Canberra on the way down because we started at 100% As for the way back, we only charged at Goulburn because we left Canberra with ~60% plus we didn’t buy food in Goulburn
Rav4 hybrid Vs MY was compared in a previous video. And a few other prior rav4 hybrid owners including myself have all indicated in the comments that a rav4 hybrid will save more to own if "cost" is your one and only concern. Once you are used to filling up once every 700-800km going to a Tesla with frequent "habitual plug in" is a lifestyle change 😂 Another factor I experienced is having little kids who need to get a break once every 2hrs actually negates rav4's "long drive, no break" style.
@@pwang Our kids are old enough that we don't 'need' to stop. But if it was anything over 10 minute stop there would definitely be a request for refreshments! Don't get me wrong, as I said, I'm looking at a MY, but I just think cost of charge / fuel is not the thing that sways me. The cheapest thing to do would be to keep the car you have (unless it's a 4L V8!), or get a Corolla or something like that.
Agreed if you don't want to frequently stop for charging on a road trip then a hybrid or plug in hybrid will be your best bet. My rav4 hybrid served me really well for 2 yrs. Get a comma ai and you can enjoy a FSD like road trip experience.
@@dragoncraft5781 How often do you do long drives though? For the majority of the year we stay in our home city (Canberra), which means we'll just charge at home. That's 20+ fortnightly treks to the petrol station I will never have to do each year. Surely 20+ servo trips trumps the handful of times I might have stop when going to Sydney... unless you travel way more often than the average family?
The last 15-20% of the charge curve is disproportionately slow in an EV so we decided to charge again later on the return journey when the state of charge was lower and hence a relatively faster charging rate
Think the wheel covers are installed on the wrong side, the way they’re now way they’re the least aerodynamic, swab them left side to right and u might get a few more k’s range…great video as usual tho
@@LudicrousFeedoh my..apologies for my comment then. Am in the process of evaluating of getting one myself or waiting for the HW4 model 3. Seeing your video today i considered getting covers as well instead of paying extra for the Tesla wheels…now I’m probably sticking with the real deal 😬 Again, i really appreciate your videos and level of detail, feels a learning curve without the painful part 😊
Hey great Vid! I was just wondering if you could help me out a bit. I’m a Wheelchair user and I am trying to find the dimensions (HxWxD) of the boot/trunk. For the life of me I can’t find it anywhere on the net as most reviews/info just state the litre amount. I’m looking at buying my first EV in the next few months and I’m looking at pretty much the the BYD Atto 3 MG4 and the Model Y. I’ve really found your vids helpful and informative so thanks a lot.
At the time of this comment it's only available for iOS - you have to manually update it at the app store - click on the Tesla app until you see the Update button
Remember avoid tolls is based on user profiles.. so make sure you set it for all users.. we just got stung in the US on some toll roads as I thought it was turned off,.. but i did it on easy entry..🤣
Great real world video. With the new price drop I am confused as to which MY to get. The $13,000 extra for MYLR to get extra 78K does not seem worth it on face value. I know it dual motor and all but still.
base on the calculation of Hybrid and Petrol. You used the urban's average L/100KM. When you drive on long highway road. You should cut down 30% from the urban's average L/100KM. As for Electric Vehicle. The higher speed the higher power usages. So, t is completely opposite to Combustion Engine Petrol usage. The fastest it goes the lighter of power it required from combustion rolling between 80KM/H to 110KM/H is the balanced overall for the best economic for fastest speed less fuel burn and longer distance.
