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Here’s a quick review of the 2023 Toyota GR86 after I experienced the Premium Automatic version out at The Tail of The Dragon. We don’t see any major changes for 2023 other than a new special edition, but would you buy this over a Mazda MX-5? Video here: • 2021 Mazda Miata Revie...
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Video Chapters:
00:00 - Intro, Driving Impressions, & Specs
07:21 - GR86 Exterior
09:23 - GR86 Interior & Features
13:30 - Conclusions
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@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

See my Mazda MX-5 Review here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lUTGYbJr73Y.html

@RabJ208 5 дней назад

Hi, I've watched a few of your vids. Great stuff. These are great cars. Can you possibly do a video on reliability - pros and cons etc etc?? That would be much appreciated. Thanks.

@sunnyvalentino Год назад

I'll add, reviews saying this is a beginners' car because of the low HP is wrong. This car is snappy as you mention when the tires are not hot. It's been like that since they launched the first gen. It has to do with chassis geometry, and the GR86 is more playful vs the BRZ. Nothing dangerous (unlike the Supra and Mustang GT) but should be treated with respect in the rain and until the heat is in the tires. Amateurs think 200HP is baby stuff. Ask anyone who has driven the Hoinda S2000 to learn from the old guys. Respect with RWD is the name of the game.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Facts brother, S2k is a perfect case in point the first gen would really loose it’s rear and got people spinning out. In fact these little small wheel base cars are pretty hard to manage at the limit, the long wheel base stuff like GT cars give you so much time to correct but you really have to be on top of things when driving at the limit in the smaller sports cars. Supra like you mentioned can get pretty sketch as it is small with a very powerful turbo motor and instant torque. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge with us and for always supporting!

@tone3560 9 месяцев назад

Yes Anyone can be an idiot in any car no matter the hp level

@sekharkutikuppala Год назад

Great reviews. I love your discussion on value for the money and other trade offs. Keep going!

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

I appreciate that my friend thank you!

@jiayeshen7518 Год назад

I own both the Miata and the GR86. Miata is a lot softer and lighter in stock suspension and has absolutely no practicability😂

@hgalindez54 Год назад

Great review.

@allisongarcia7870 Год назад

I’m so excited I recently just purchased a Premium Raven. Can’t wait to drive it. It get it in a month 🥰

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Massive congrats I’m sure you will love it 👍

@SnoopysVet Год назад

I got mine three weeks ago, you will love it

@ninjascroll1017 Год назад

You were spot on about the tires. I recently switched to all seasons and i dont think im going back to summer. The 2022 automatic model has blind spot monitoring so that may be why it wasnt shown unless they changed it for 2023

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Very nice my friend congrats on owning the GR86 and yea All Season is def the way to go for street driving. And yea maybe the 2023 had it and I just didn’t notice it

@bigdaddy5150sh71 Год назад

I'm looking for a car exactly like this. After my g35 coupe and my first car a 77' gt Celica hatchback in 1987 I love a coupe. Kids are basically gone and I'm almost 52. Just need something to scoot around in. I'm buying a 2023 GR86 next spring. Been looking at older Caymans. After watching this I'm sold. Like you made this vid for me. Thanks 👍

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Nice! Super happy for you, yea I don’t think you will be disappointed on how this drives at all, it’s just a tad difficult to get in and out of 😅 but well worth it once you’re in. Thanks again for stopping by and sharing your kind words

@orlandoflores72 Месяц назад

My daughter both one in silver. I love lt. Make me think about getting one.

@sunnyvalentino Год назад

Bro, long time sub. Another stellar review. I Turod one earlier this year and came out looking for the Porsche badge. I'll go further, it's better than the Cayman - there are more options rotating the car Vs the Cayman. It feels spiritually similar to the Mustang GT and Camaro SS 1LE, but 70% the size, much more lighter and nimble feeling. Steering was direct as you say, but no road feedback. If you like 90s cars like RX7 and E36 M3, even further back AE86 and 944, this is your car. This car along with the 2023 Golf R DSG were some of the best cars I've driven in recent memory (and I have driven tons for the last 25 years). The torque vectoring diff made that a modernized luxurious Evo X.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Really appreciate your support over all these years! And thank you for sharing these details with us, yea this GR is pretty legit really like how they have this set up. I’m surprised you don’t like the Miata I thought that felt pretty sturdy for it’s weight but I’ve only driven the new Miata’s to be fair. Golf R was def a beast yes. I bet the car is a bullet with the DSG, I only tried the manual. But yea the way the Golf handles is so smooth and sorted, I think it’s a great daily with the DSG. I’m glad there are some great sporty options now, still waiting to check out some of the Hyundai N products to see how that stacks. I am sad to see the prices of all these cars going up, $30k is the new $20k 😞

@sunnyvalentino Год назад

@@MeynMotorGroup , the Miata is VERY study and well built considering its very low weight. For me, its weight is too little combined with the open top/no pillars that it just feels like if I get into a collision I wont survive (but I didnt get that feeling at all with the GR86). Now that I am older with a kid I dont feel comfortable in something like that - these days everyone is driving really tall heavy SUVs and electric cars that weigh 5000 pounds. Driving wise I dont like the Miata as much as the GR86. There's something about the big steering wheel (for its cabin), slowish rack, body roll and feeling of sitting over the rear axle (like the Supra) that I dont love. The engine is livelier in the Miata Vs the 86 as you mention. The Golf R is so good also because of its snow performance. I refuse to drive FWD anymore - where I live its wet, hilly and in the winter snowy. FWD (including GTI) have HORRID wheel hop on acceleration and off standing starts whenever its rainy. I'm not even considering the Type R, Elantra N, GTI. Sad but true about car price man. Elantra N is the only reasonable one, but Hyundai engines reliability is crap and so is their dealer service and honoring warranty.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Ah yes I gotcha now yea the safety & crash test worthiness of the Miata is a bit sketch I admit very tiny car no idea how it will fair. All the other Mazdas are very safe but not sure about the MX5. Crash test is something I take seriously as well. Yea it sounds like if you can get a Golf R at MSRP it can be the perfect daily for you, Manual would hold value nicely but I’m thinking DSG might be the best way to enjoy it since it’s so quick. Good looking vehicle too the Golf R.

@sunnyvalentino Год назад

@Exhaust Sports Auto yeah. I am waiting for you to get your hands on a GR Corolla as well. That will probably be the Goldilocks car like the Golf R. For Golf R I think I'd lean DSG just because the Germans don't really take the time on improving the manuals as its only for US market. BMW has been using the same manual for over 15 years, Porsche didn't even bother to change the manual gearing on the Cayman GTS (although the feel of Porsche manuals is good) and Golf R manual is plagued with problems around clutch plates and crank bearing failure. The Golf Rs DSG is supposed to be bulletproof and take high HP boost.

@landon5104 Год назад

I see your argument but in no world is this car better than a cayman. Maybe maybe a first Gen 987 cayman is comparable

@cstykes Год назад

Side views reminds me of my 2003 Hyundai Tiburon. Miss that car

@zachmartinez7248 Год назад

Funny you mention the word juvenile. I just ordered a GR86 and I'm coming from a fiesta ST and my wife hates it she says it looks juvenile and immature. That's perfectly okay I'd rather have the GR86 any day.

@SnoopysVet Год назад

I am six foot one and have no issues fitting in the car

@robertpeet1360 Год назад

Excellent review. Ordered a BRZ in July, due for delivery in January. I heard that all of the Subaru 2023's have been spoken for and that they are waiting until January before they start taking orders for the 2024's. Toyota doesn't take orders, per se. Check online, or call, for what pops in at dealers within a reasonable drive. Again, once they hit an online listing, they don't last long.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Massive congrats Robert you did well in securing one of these cars. Yea demand is crazy high for this and rightfully so, it’s a proper experience and I don’t think you will be disappointed

@DavidTMSN Год назад

How would you compare this to the Mazda3 2.5T Premium Plus AWD?

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

One drives like a Porsche the other feels like a pseudo luxury car

@dxt0301 Год назад

Not considering cost or age or mileage, if you had to choose, what would you prefer: (1) 2023 GR86 Premium or (2) 2017 Accord Coupe Touring? You tested both cars and I just wanted to know your preference. Thank you.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

The GR86 lol

@dxt0301 Год назад

@@MeynMotorGroup Thank you!

@chocolatewheelchair Год назад

It looks so dope tinted 5% all around including the windshield

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

That would be nice!

@chocolatewheelchair Год назад

@@MeynMotorGroup I think the one in that isn’t being driven is tinted for press photos, The black and red look so dope. Colors of my favorite hockey team nj devils

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Oh that’s because I increased the contrast of the B roll so colors appear darker to highlight the red paint my bad 😅

@chocolatewheelchair Год назад

@@MeynMotorGroup hope you’re well bro have a blessed Thanksgiving.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

I’m well thank you for asking, and I hope you and your family are doing great as well. You too, have a blessed Thanksgiving my friend!

@tvm2209 Год назад

I’d still most likely go with a Mazda mx5 Miata than this if I was looking to own long term mostly due to the tested reliability. I do think the gr86 looks better and does a pretty good job of creating more cargo space in a little coupe.

@johnleewins3814 Год назад

Saw your top ten affordable list and was thinking since your channel name is exhaust auto sport wheres the top ten sounding exhausts 😅

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

I should work on that 😅

@sekharkutikuppala Год назад

I'd go with soft top Miata just because it's a great NA motor and wonderful suspension that serves me well over long term. I have an NC miata so i'm biased :)

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Miata is a wonderful choice indeed, the Miata NA engine has way more character than the GR86 so it’s more fun to rev out. And yes, another BIG advantage to the Miata is the fact you can get it as a convertible. Enjoy that ride my friend!

@GlockNinja Год назад

how did that mustang drive compared to the 86 on the tail of the dragon?

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

So I didn’t drive the Mustang, my partner Matt Keegan drove it. But from the passenger seat at least there was a lot more body roll. Granted the Mustang they brought out was a regular EcoBoost. The High Performance Eco & PP2 V8 Mustangs I’ve tried have stiffer chassis with less Roll. Regardless, the performance of the Mustang is fine what I don’t like is the lack of communication, feels like I’m driving on Glass all the time and the steering has no feedback so I don’t know what the front or the rear of the car is doing. GR is the complete opposite, I know exactly what the car is doing, the steering & chassis is very tight (almost Porsche like) and I just enjoy pushing the GR a lot more because of this. Drawbacks of the GR is the lousy sounding engine and of course it won’t feel as quick as the Eco or V8 but I don’t mind the power this GR has

@user-qb1kg9dh4h Год назад

I just picked up a 2023 today and the premiums do get the blind spot monitors

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Massive congrats on your new purchase and thanks so much for confirming this!

@servantsoldier5207 Год назад

Wow To mention Japan Porsche when speaking about the GR86 says it’s gotta’ be a wise purchase😇

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Def a solid sports car really captures the essence of what the older porsche cars were like

@Excalabur50 Год назад

This is a great car made in conjunction with Subaru, we get both the GR86 and the BRZ here in Aus. They sell quite well too.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Oh nice that’s awesome glad you guys get these they are some legit sports cars for sure that feel proper. Tough choice between this and Miata for me

@Excalabur50 Год назад

@@MeynMotorGroup I'm fucked with any of them at 6'3"they need to cut a hole in the roof lol.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

@@Excalabur50 😂😂😂 Oh man well being tall is a good thing but in this instance.. that’s the biggest con with these cars, literally limits the buying demographic to 6 ft and under very unfortunate. Miata is a vert but my 6’ 2” friend could not get the seat far back enough for him to comfortably drive it.

@xXRyanGamesXx 11 месяцев назад

Just wanna say I'm 6'3" and fit comfortably in the gr86 (have not tried a helmet on though)

@alengreen589 Год назад

This GR86 Premium for $ 32k or a Elantra N for 32k? I think i would buy the Elantra because a lot more Hp and torque, 4 doors, more room and trunk inside, a modern interior, newest tech. and safety features, bigger wheels and if i want a very modern and fast shifting wet clutch DCT where all these things the 2023 GR86 not have, for the same money.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Yea the Elantra N is a car I’ve been wanting to test for quite some time now. One key difference is.. RWD 🤪

@alengreen589 Год назад

@@MeynMotorGroup yes thats right Kevin the Elantra has FWD but on a race track the N destroy the GR86 + the N has a amazing exhaust sound and the N is easier to drive in winter conditions with FWD but in the end it´s a taste thing.

@jorgeconcepcion7421 Год назад

Only bad thing is that there is a shortage of Elantra N’s right now meaning they are tuff to get a hold of, unless you go for used

@MrRaphaelmusic Год назад

It has 228 hp but its naturally aspirated. 228 hp with turbo would feel stronger. Im just saying...I also like it to be naturally aspirated and yeah 228 HP in this car feels great!

@xBeeGee Год назад

You taking this or mx-5?

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Covered it in the conclusion segment, pricing really makes me want to go with the GR86. Fully loaded with destination, GR is $32k. Fully loaded Miata is like $40k. I will say the Miata engine has way more character but idk if it’s enough to make me go for it

@theodoreyoung8777 Год назад

👊🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@szn1580 Год назад

I’m 6”4. Could I fit in one?

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Would be a tight squeeze not the most comfortable experience for you but possible

@szn1580 Год назад

@@MeynMotorGroup thank you bro!

@genericviewer8517 Год назад

6’3 here. I fit surprisingly comfortably in mine with seat all the way down and back. Good amount of headroom. Legs somewhat tight around the steering wheel but absolutely doable.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

@@genericviewer8517 thank you so much for sharing my friend! And huge congrats on the GR86 purchase!

@szn1580 Год назад

@@genericviewer8517 thanks man! That’s my dream car!

@floodedmoat2620 Год назад

Great to finally get your full take on this car. Kinda seems a bit too small for me; at exactly 6'2" I can't say it's built for me lol.

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Yup it’s the most unfortunate con about cars like this and the Miata, it really limits the buyer pool but I also get that these cars do need to be small to achieve the balance and driving feel they want

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

That’s good to know thank you for sharing this

@floodedmoat2620 Год назад

@@shishkebaba Are you mostly leg or body? Those proportions make a big difference in cars this small

@braetonwilson4296 Год назад

@@floodedmoat2620 Men are mostly body. Women are mostly leg. Compare a 6'2 woman and 6'2 man. The man will have a longer torso and shorter legs.

@alanhumphrey4198 Год назад

Can you find one of these anywhere??

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

I hope so Alan, this car was pretty sweet and I would love buyers to get a chance at owning one. Trying some of the brokers on the Leasehackr forum might be your best bet as they do high volume

@servantsoldier5207 Год назад

Where’s the option sunroof 😮😳😕

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

The optional sunroof is a miata

@servantsoldier5207 Год назад

@@MeynMotorGroup I would consider this 86 cost wise but I have to have a sunroof in my sports car I’ve considered the minicooper s two door hardtop

@servantsoldier5207 Год назад

Biggest difference between the two is the $10k price difference

@theodoreyoung8777 Год назад

Yo bro

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Hey bro hope all is well on this Thanksgiving week

@theodoreyoung8777 Год назад

@@MeynMotorGroup Yes bro thanx hope the same for u as well 🤝😎🙏🏾🙏🏾👍🏾👍🏾

@tvm2209 Год назад

I don’t understand the ppl that comment bragging about getting an automatic 😅

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

Probably because they are grateful for what they have yet people have a need to mock them

@RobustArid379 Год назад

It’s not that fast

@youstolemyhandleyoutwat Год назад

Ahh yea, because such a LARGE part of the population is 6'2". Btw, most of you are not "6'2""

@MeynMotorGroup Год назад

I guess

@youstolemyhandleyoutwat Год назад

@Exhaust Sports Auto real talk, I posted this and completely forgot about it. I just read it again and forgot I posted this. Anyway, yes, the vast majority of us are short, short kings.