2024 Kia Carnival vs Honda Odyssey vs Toyota Sienna - Gap City Follows! Minivan Drag and Roll Race Join this channel to get access to perks: / @samcarlegion
Watch the beginning of the SavageGeese review on the Honda Odyssey from a couple years ago, specifically the part from 0:45 to 1:00. I dont think I’ve ever laughed so hard in my life, the sound surprised me so much and he’s fucking booking.
It's a rock solid engine, but unfortunately Honda has to ditch it due to government emissions regulations, despite it meeting ULEV requirements. It doesn't make sense.
@@TheBreakfastLover that’s why I’m never getting rid of my 05 MDX. I just love this engine. I’m shopping for a 3rd or 4th gen TL right now. All that bs the government is pushing on us doesn’t add up.
@@ZACH_95_ I know right! I’m gonna keep at least 1 v6 and 1 v8 until they stop making and/or selling parts for them. I’m really curious about what the agenda is behind all of this. The environment ain’t it!!!
@@ZACH_95_I don’t think the V6 will be gone but be changed just how the V8 is disappearing slowly. The new V8 are gonna be the V6 turbo with electric motors 🥲.
Always Honda in termofspeed, maneuverability, précision an drivability, even in minivans category ! They are the best. I'm not surprised at all because I own a 19 Pilot Touring and I know they both shared same engine but the Odyssey has better transmission.
If anything I think the KIA was overrated. The Odyssey had a significant power and weight advantage over the Toyota. The Toyota gets off the line faster with the electric motor torque but once the Honda motor was at the top of first gear at peak HP it was going to walk away from the Toyota, which it did.
It's not the power, it's the 10 speed transmission. I owned a 2019 Elite and it was a joy when passing on 2 lanes or the interstate. It was great in mountainous areas too as it was programmed wonderfully.
honda engines are amazing. always have been. I was rooting for the Carnival since it has the most hp but trannie and weight do not help. Who in the Toyota dept. thought 245hp and 200 torques will work in such a heavy vehicle? Great race! keep them coming Sam!
From a start up until about 40-50mph, the Toyota was in front of the Honda. I think it has plenty of power for daily use and freeway merging, plus gets better mpg. This is a minivan, not a race car. The Toyota also has better 0-60 than most small SUVs and economy cars
@@ouch1011 It doesn't get "better" mpg, it CRUSHES the others. Real-world people see MINIMUM 31 mpg combined from what I hear, with many reporting 35mpg + (because they don't drive like me). We would break 23mpg in our 2019 10-spd Elite running 75-80 on 500+ mile road trips. Wife averaged 22ish. I averaged 18-19mpg. Drove the Toyota before purchasing the Honda (bought Honda used), and it felt great, as you mentioned, in normal use.
Vtec is on ... That transmission is a perfect combination with that J engine that second Gear in that transmission is awesome ...is a Gap gear. Very tall, Gear, for pickup quick.
My wife recently totaled her TL Type-S and we have a growing family so we had to start thinking about bigger cars. I'm not a huge fan of SUVs and their prices, so i showed this to her and she said, "well, guess we're getting an Odyssey!" 😅
Today's kids will never know the joy or the terror of borrowing mom's minivan pulling out all the seats (for weight reduction of course 😉), and grabbing 4 friends now lose in the rear compartment and trying to top speed the thing on a bumpy country road at what was realistically 107-112mph. Ah, the good 'ole days.
The Honda 3.5 is a great engine. Wish it was still available in the Honda Accord. Also, I would love to have seen the Subaru Outback XT (not the standard 2.5, but the XT 2.4 turbo) included in this group. That would have made it even more interesting.
As a prior 17 sienna owner that now owns a 21 platinum sienna: I don’t miss the 40 HP at all. 35 MPG average, I have tons of quality-of-life features that just weren’t available on the older models, the overall driving experience is much more luxurious and quiet as well.
Hi Sam. This was a good race comparison. Usually minivans don't race each other, but this was a good one. The Honda Odyssey has a better sounding exhaust than the other two. As for the race, the Honda Odyssey got all wins due to the fact that it's lighter in weight and the transmission shifts better. The Kia Carnival lost badly against the Honda Odyssey because it's too heavy. It would be interesting for the Kia Carnival to race against the Toyota Sienna. If that race would've taken place, the Sienna I think would beat it.
This is like that Throttle House drag race between the accord, Mazda6, and Sonata and them saying “that damn accord. ITS A CONSPIRACY” 😂 that 10 speed does wonders
Honda has V-tech mah boi. It's not even comparable😂 people be sleepin on Hondas. The 2016 Honda Accord EX-L can outrun the first Gen Modern Dodge Charger RT's. Not surprising with a car with that sleeper V-6 makin 278hp and 251tq and weighs 3600 lbs, the automatic on average goes to 60 in 6.2 and the 6-spd Manual goes 0-60 in 5.6-5.8 on average and u dont have to worry as much about wheel spin as much as those heavy charger. Still a torquey little car, has better power to weight ratio than the last Mitsubishi Evo. Yeah, the new Honda Accord are probably faster, but the 2016 accord has the best design in my opinion and sounds amazing.
I honestly didn't think the Honda was going to Gap everyone so bad well, except for the Toyota. My parents have a palisade, and that thing boogies pretty good for what it is. Maybe Honda and BMW collaborated in BS power numbers LOL
Kia makes great looking vehicles, but I’m not spending my money on ANY of them. And how did you source a hybrid AWD Sienna? That’s a 2-year wait vehicle, good job finding that!
I had a 2020 version of the odyssey for a 2 year lease, it surprised my neighbors civic si, the power delivery instant & continuous. The spacious interior and reliability was amazing, averaging 25 mpg on a cross country drive with 4 passengers and a dog! The Toyota was carrying a lot more weight and that hybrid electric motor won in short sprints at the line, and the 10 speed aided a passing gear with electric torque to hang on a bit with Honda. I’d say hybrid is the future of automotive power, however Honda built that NA V6 (old tech) with an amazing punch!!! I agree styling does go to the Kia.
That's because it's better built to last longer. Look up Honda engine problems it literally makes you never buy one. Toyota is made to last 300k+ miles. You'll be lucky if at 100 if your Honda doesn't have problems.
That odysssey is sure fast, but lacks everything else compared to the other two, especially the features people want. It’s the oldest anyways. Due for a redesign. I bet the odyssey would smoke a C300 without the C brake torquing
Do tell all of the features the Honda doesn’t have that people supposedly want because that’s a pretty rare comment especially with the odyssey’s interior configuration and design being far more user friendly than the others despite being an older platform. The driving experience alone puts it above the competition.
nobody’s talking about how the 2.5L hybrid sienna is quicker than that kia carnival in the 1/4 mile.. sienna got 15.9 seconds and the carnival got 16.1
i enjoyed the video showcasing real world practical vehicles. if you're suck between a truck or coming into a passing lane and u want to hustle why not because it's a van u wouldn't want to push through to the front just like anyone else 😎
Honda/V-tec all day baby lol. But you got to love Honda motors I think they are the best motors ever made. They sound good they have good power and they last for ever. The best motor they ever made is the K series and the J series. Also don’t get me wrong the lil B series and D series are bulletproof motors you can even boost the hell out of them and they will take it all day. Also you can have no oil in them and they still will drive for months lol.
Lmao. I was waiting for the surprised face and the fun smirk people always get when they get into a car that's faster than expected. It's faster than most sports cars from 80s and early 90s.. glad someone showed the vtec power that car has love the sound it makes when vtec kicks in!
We spent 22 yrs in various minivans (2 Sienna's and 2 Odyssey's), with 5 kids who are now mostly grown. When we were "stuck" with them, I preferred the Honda because it's the "sportiest" and has the best driving dynamics. But now that everyone is growing up (16 and 19 yr old still at home, both have their own cars) and we have little actual "need" for a minivan, I sometimes think about buying one again just for road trips (we currently have a '20 F150 Platinum EB stage 1, '22 Model 3 Perf. and a '17 Accord Sport that my youngest drives). But the one I would buy is the Sienna Hybrid, for it's comfortable ride quality and excellent MPG's. The hybrid powertrain is powerful enough to get the job done without frustration and, to me, it's the most pleasant one to ride in, very quiet and smooth. You do have to get used to the weird exterior styling, but you're already driving a minivan so you've already "given up on life" anyway haha.
as a honda guy, i like the newer siennas but just despise that its got a cvt+i4, toyota should add an option for v6 and automatic like their older siennas
The older gen sienna with the 3.5V6 301hp would've definitely given the oddesey a run for its money. I've driven the V6 sienna and it was pretty impressive.
I got a 2019 Odyssey with the 10 speed Honda built transmission. Fastest minivan west of the Mississippi River. But I only average 20.8 miles gallon. Got that lead foot.
I like Honda Odyssey. I almost get the brand new 2024 EXL last week. The problem was I'm not satisfied with the trade in value they offered for my existing 2007 Odyssey 😕
Thank you, thank you, thank you, great fun to watch, that Honda Odyssey Rock and Rolls, very impressive, and very impressive fuel economy on the Toyota Sienna. Well done
LOL..no contest for the Sienna. I always wonder how the HP from the Toyota works. The reported HP is with the electric motor assists, but what happen once it reaches a certain speed where the electric motor is no longer assist. That said, my 2023 Sienna made 36.5 MPG when I first attempt the MPG challenge. It is now 32.5MPG for normal driving.
No body trust me the first time wrote about my 2016 Pilot Awd at 64F temp. Stoping the clock at 6.4 seg, Now look the Oddysey 6.7 😂😂😂😂 I Vtec are no joke.!!❤❤
In tonight’s race, we have three contestants who could go to the soccer game the quickest, on the left, we have the Honda Odyssey, in the middle we have the Kia Carnival, and on the right, we have the Toyota Sienna. Who will win this drag race today to soccer practice? Stay tuned to find out.
