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2024 TACOMA iForce MAX REVIEW. Why this hybrid isn't made for gas mileage. 

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The 2024 Tacoma iforce max is a hybrid tacoma that makes 326 hp and 465b ft lb of torque. That is more torque than the 5.7L v8 from the old tundras and sequoias.
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@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
WOULD YOU SPEND THE EXTRA $3500 ON THE HYBRID OR GET THE GAS ONLY MODEL?
@hoseman10
@hoseman10 3 месяца назад
Hybrid
@MrTanr69
@MrTanr69 3 месяца назад
Hybrid is sitting in my driveway
@chrisb9478
@chrisb9478 2 месяца назад
I’ll get a Non- Hybrid, barely better mpg, I don’t tow anything & I like all the backseat under seat storage. The hybrid has No storage under there due to battery. Plus the non Hybrid is a good bit cheaper.
@MrTanr69
@MrTanr69 2 месяца назад
@@chrisb9478 I get 25mpg in town with my hybrid and I don't drive in eco and I'm not the slightest on the throttle. The hybrid definitely gets betr gas mileage! Not like my wives RAV4 hybrid but still
@KTown_Painter
@KTown_Painter Месяц назад
Non-Hybrid is sitting in my driveway. Plenty of pep and more towing than hybrid.
@hoseman10
@hoseman10 3 месяца назад
I have just purchased a 2024 Tacoma TRD Sport Hybrid 4X4 and the power is just amazing! It passes other vehicles on the road and climbs hills so effortlessly like it has a much bigger engine under the hood. It also feels like a bigger truck while driving it. Towing capacity and rear seat room was not one of my requirements. I had the extra money to purchase it and I have no regrets.
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
That is awesome good for you. They really do drive so well! The power is awesome!
@christopherpavkovich4995
@christopherpavkovich4995 3 дня назад
I bought the land cruiser. I was told the hybrid setup is made for performance not efficiency.
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 дня назад
That is correct
@bobdole7701
@bobdole7701 2 месяца назад
I drive them both.Bought the 2024 Frontier PRO4X.
@Canuckpostee
@Canuckpostee Месяц назад
What will the hybrid version do for resale value? Will it bring it down because of complexity and battery replacement concerns, or will it keep better value because there are fewer of them?
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 Месяц назад
That’s a great question. I think once they have high miles(150k+) there will potentially be an aspect of that. But on hybrid cars and what not they are still worth more because of the gas mileage benefit. Where these don’t have a gas mileage benefit it will be interesting to see.
@jbcope1000
@jbcope1000 2 месяца назад
Hybrid is cool. We will see what aftermarket tune, intercooler, intake does for the regular truck. I think they'll be close
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 2 месяца назад
Yeah probably. I was wondering what it would take to get over 500 ft-lb torque. Probably not much seeing as it’s only 35 ft-lb away
@richardstralow6314
@richardstralow6314 3 месяца назад
Personally, I'd only get the hybrid. Kinda like my 2002 tacoma. I purchased the trd supercharger for it brand new. $3000....worth every penny. It has 286,000 miles on it now and still runs like brand new! Just do the PM and last forever. I tow two quads(yamahas...raptor 700r, banshee, and warrior) on a trailer and one in the bed. Up to Coral Pink Sand Dunes and some land I own in the Rockies.
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
See forced induction isn’t all that bad😉 that is cool! That 02 sounds like an awesome truck! I’m thinking I may trade my 24 for the hybrid. After seeing this one lay down tire marks in a parking lot, I feel like that’s something I need in my life 😂
@planoman0935
@planoman0935 3 месяца назад
I have the iforce and it is fine for my Tacoma. Now next year when the 4 runner comes out which is heavier, I likely will get the iforce max model!
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
The max would move the extra weight no problem. I drove the Land Cruiser and it’s decent!
@chrisbreault8003
@chrisbreault8003 Месяц назад
Nice review. Thanks
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 Месяц назад
Thanks for watching!
@normaninsandiego7061
@normaninsandiego7061 3 месяца назад
That is one beautiful truck. I'm still waiting on the base SR 2 door models. I hope Toyota will have them in 2025. Great video as always.
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
It is! Crazy how they’ve almost completed an entire production model year and I haven’t seen a single sr 2 door and I’ve only seen 1 sr in person. That was the one I made the video of
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
And thank you for watching Norman you’re the best!
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo 3 месяца назад
Yeah for some reason they are not making many Xtracabs now. There are maybe a twenty in the whole country
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
@@jmpattillo yeah super weird. I guess they are probably trying to just put out as many of the “high volume” models as they can, since they got a slow start and didn’t have any tacos to sell for the first 2 months of the year😂
@Commentleaver-c6x
@Commentleaver-c6x 3 месяца назад
You will only see more highly optioned, more expensive models on the lots for sale.
@brandtguimbellot9994
@brandtguimbellot9994 2 месяца назад
I haven’t been able to chirp my tires since 2nd gen. You’ve got me curious on these 4th gens now🤣
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 2 месяца назад
I knew it would rip but I didn’t expect it to lay rubber for 200 feet😂😂
@lc7192
@lc7192 3 месяца назад
The 18 inch wheels are not so good as the 17 inch wheels for off-roading and for smoother riding. Another reason to get the regular I-Force non-hybrid model.
@marioa2753
@marioa2753 3 месяца назад
I heard the 24 pro has a faster acceleration off the line then the 24 hybrid off-road . Do you think this is true since they both have the same HP and torque?
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
@@marioa2753 I’m not sure how it could. The power numbers are the same and the pro isn’t lighter. So that would be interesting if that was the case
@brians.1357
@brians.1357 2 месяца назад
So the TRD Off-Road iforce max comes with chin spoiler from the factory (seems like regular iforce does not have it installed)?? My question is are the EPA fuel numbers on both trucks reflected with one having the chin spoiler and one not?
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 2 месяца назад
That is correct. Max has the chin spoiler. Regular does not. That would mean the epa numbers are from Iforce with no chin spoiler and Iforce max with chin spoiler.
@0212854
@0212854 2 месяца назад
So been looking at a tacoma but seen they're all hybrid now. So how does that work? Does it charge itself while driving or do i have to stop at a gas station and find someplace to plug it in too? Kind of getting turned off trying to figure out if it is to much of a pain now
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 2 месяца назад
It is kind of confusing. They are not all hybrid tho. The Tacomas come with 2 different powertrain options. You can get the good old fashioned non hybrid which is a 2.4L turbo 4 cylinder. So you just put gas in it and go. Or you can get the upgraded powertrain that is a hybrid. So that is a 2.4L turbo 4 cylinder with an electric motor attached to it. If you opt for the hybrid you don’t have to do anything extra. You don’t have to charge. It will recharge as the gas motor runs and as you drive around town. Hope that helps
@0212854
@0212854 2 месяца назад
@@counterfeitcowboy1362 yeah that helped thank you haha. Was looking around on the Internet for an answer and I don't know anyone with a hybrid to ask so was kind of lost over it
@lc7192
@lc7192 3 месяца назад
The hybrid I-Force Max models have 6,000 lb towing capacity while the I-Force can tow 6,500 lb. That plus the hybrid can beat the non hybrid by only a truck length on a 0-60mph test tells me that the extra $4800 is not worth buying the hybrid model. The EPA fuel rating has the hybrid getting only one mpg better fuel economy than the non hybrid. The hybrid model is not worth the extra money.
@jeffreybrownlow6436
@jeffreybrownlow6436 3 месяца назад
I'm curious what tuning would accomplish... its also not a 1/4 mile...
@hunterstokely8438
@hunterstokely8438 3 месяца назад
So so true
@Red_Rock_Redneck
@Red_Rock_Redneck 3 месяца назад
I think the one thing you may be forgetting is the amount of strain and therefore wear and tear taken off of the engine/ other systems by the electric system. It may only be marginal, and it won’t benefit every mechanical system, but it even a marginal improvement over tens of thousands of miles makes a big difference.
@JohnnyBoy919
@JohnnyBoy919 3 месяца назад
Where did you see the 0-60 between hybrid and non hybrid?
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
I like the way you think
@hugoarreola5797
@hugoarreola5797 3 месяца назад
Can you put regular gas on the iMAX or does it have take Premium gas?
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
Just like the regular Iforce, the recommended octane is 87
@evancontos2267
@evancontos2267 3 месяца назад
Great job comparing!!
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
Thank you!
@zeroninehundred
@zeroninehundred 3 месяца назад
Is the bigger wheel on the hybrid to accommodate the bigger brakes for the heavier payload? That rings in my head as something I’ve seen or heard somewhere, but I may just be crazy.
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
@@zeroninehundred hmm that’s a good thought. Totally possible. The hybrid system weighs like 500 pounds so that is something they could have done
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
I just looked it up. On the hybrid models you get a 13.2” rear rotor vs a 12.2”. But it only upgrades the rears
@zeroninehundred
@zeroninehundred 3 месяца назад
​@counterfeitcowboy1362 so you're saying I'm just crazy. Fair. 🤪 Thanks for fact-checking! 😅
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
lol only sightly. The brakes are bigger😉😂
@belfastconor8521
@belfastconor8521 3 месяца назад
Brakes are bigger, wheels are bigger diameter, different tires, rear differential is bigger on I-force Max. That’s from Lead Engineer on video I watched.
@rickeyxiong3242
@rickeyxiong3242 2 месяца назад
Does the iforce max perform better than the regular iforce gas in off-road? Or is it the same?
@greggb681
@greggb681 Месяц назад
Nope, the iforce max can't go off road at all. The batteries prevent the Tacoma from driving on dirt roads, rocks, etc.
@hoseman10
@hoseman10 Месяц назад
@@greggb681 Not true! The iForce max comes standard with the TRD Pro and Trail hunter designed specifically for the off-roading!
@groot5441
@groot5441 3 месяца назад
Heard your brakes will last extra long with hybrid
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
That is usually the case, yes 👍
@MerlinspopTBH
@MerlinspopTBH 3 месяца назад
WV charges an extra $100 fee to register hybrids and EV, ostensibly to make up for gas tax.
@wyatt_taco4
@wyatt_taco4 3 месяца назад
What's the payload difference between yours and the hybrid?
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
The product information system toyota gives to salesmen says mine (offroad, Iforce, 5’ bed, at) has a payload of 1610. It says the same setup but as a hybrid has a payload of 1706. So somehow it goes up. But if you look at towing, my truck tows 6400 and the hybrid version tows 6000. Very confusing 😂
@wyatt_taco4
@wyatt_taco4 3 месяца назад
@@counterfeitcowboy1362 right, but that isn't the number the sticker on the drive side will reflect after options are added in.
@lc7192
@lc7192 3 месяца назад
The Off Road hybrid can tow 6,000 lbs max and the non hybrid Off Road can tow 6,500 lbs max
@triple6758
@triple6758 Месяц назад
I have yet to see a single review explaining anything under the hood. What's all that mess under there?
@BBQBookie
@BBQBookie 3 месяца назад
🔥🔥🔥
@ryanhori6954
@ryanhori6954 3 месяца назад
Another vehicle that I wouldn't want no matter how much you paid me
@cruzn4u
@cruzn4u 3 месяца назад
If you turn on the brake hold will you be able to do a burnout
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
lol no that would be awesome tho! 😂 as soon as you push the gas it lets off the brake
@MrTanr69
@MrTanr69 3 месяца назад
Yes you can. Put it in sport mode turn traction control off and manually shift in first gear! Ask me how I know? 😋 I have one sitting in my driveway and already tried it
@michaeljensen1123
@michaeljensen1123 3 месяца назад
Took ya to gapplebees lol
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
Yeah he did😂 even got a gapatizer
@rhodeislandfirearmsownersl9916
@rhodeislandfirearmsownersl9916 2 месяца назад
Meanwhile most other truck manufacturers include tires better suited for off road conditions on models designated as off road trucks, Toyota fails.
@christrarback9748
@christrarback9748 3 месяца назад
You also get bigger disk breaks with the hybrid
@christrarback9748
@christrarback9748 3 месяца назад
Sorry I might mean Rotors lol
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
Interesting I just looked it up. It gives you a 13.2” rear rotor vs a 12.2”. But it only upgrades the rears
@christrarback9748
@christrarback9748 3 месяца назад
@counterfeitcowboy1362 yeah it's odd .
@SuperDagbo
@SuperDagbo 2 месяца назад
I'll get a RAM RHO for $75000.00 vs. $70000.00 for a toyota trd pro hybid. Thus are O-I-D prices.....
@razz300zx
@razz300zx 3 месяца назад
Engine. Gas Engine
@MrDjh66
@MrDjh66 2 месяца назад
Love mine you breath on gas pedal and your gone
@Andrew.aguiniga
@Andrew.aguiniga 3 месяца назад
Hybrid all the way 🙌
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
Someone find me a solar octane off-road premium hybrid!!!😂
@justinstiff5641
@justinstiff5641 3 месяца назад
It looks like somebody glued a TV to the dash
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
😂
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 3 месяца назад
I don’t understand why a hybrid system can’t be for both efficiency and performance. Toyota just screwed it up.
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
Yeah I mean I get that the turbo motor is more thirsty than a regular 4 cylinder. Just like the old v6 hybrid highlanders. When they turn on they use more fuel. But I feel like they could have made an ev mode or something so the gas motor wouldn’t turn on as easy
@Jay-me7gw
@Jay-me7gw 3 месяца назад
@@counterfeitcowboy1362 Or just used the electric motor to keep the gas motor out of boost more. No offense, but Ford’s Powerboost accomplished both power and efficiency. The 3.5 Powerboost is quick and get 3+ mpg better than the regular 3.5 Ecoboost.
@mcleodautomation
@mcleodautomation 29 дней назад
Shouldnt chew gum while recording...
@Commentleaver-c6x
@Commentleaver-c6x 3 месяца назад
The tv screen in the middle is comically big and looks terrible.
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
When I heard they were putting that screen in the tacos I thought the same thing. But having one now I actually really like that screen
@Commentleaver-c6x
@Commentleaver-c6x 3 месяца назад
@@counterfeitcowboy1362 I just think they look totally out of place.
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
@@Commentleaver-c6x it is a lot for sure
@davidchenette1091
@davidchenette1091 3 месяца назад
I really like big screen now after having it for 3 months now
@Commentleaver-c6x
@Commentleaver-c6x 3 месяца назад
@@davidchenette1091 I have a frontier and the screen is built into the normal flow of the dash, it doesn’t look like an aftermarket screen someone stuck on it.
@deantrainr
@deantrainr 3 месяца назад
Neither.😳 Test drove a premium packaged Tacoma trd off-road and it wasn’t for me.🤷‍♂️🥱
@counterfeitcowboy1362
@counterfeitcowboy1362 3 месяца назад
Really? What didn’t you like about it?
@deantrainr
@deantrainr 3 месяца назад
@@counterfeitcowboy1362 It just boils down to the power plant; i.e. the 4-cylinder turbocharged/turbocruncher engine. You just can't feel good about a small engine with the increased reliability and maintenance problems of a turbocharger crammed into a heavier/beefier chassis. You can argue til hell freezes over that Toyota has proven this engine in other vehicles and that they've been using turbocharged technology for years but this new engine will never be as reliable and dependable compared to the V6 2GR-FKS engine. And also, this new engine will be overstrained and overworked in the short and long term which will result in increased engine/turbocharger failure. True, the outgoing V6 engine is not the best designed V6 on the planet but it is by far, will outlast, outperform (long-term), and out function ANY turbocharged power plant.
@deantrainr
@deantrainr 3 месяца назад
@@counterfeitcowboy1362 It just boils down to the power plant; i.e. the 4-cylinder turbocharged/turbocruncher engine. You just can't feel good about a small engine with the increased reliability and maintenance problems of a turbocharger crammed into a heavier/beefier chassis. You can argue til hell freezes over that Toyota has proven this engine in other vehicles and that they've been using turbocharged technology for years but this new engine will never be as reliable and dependable compared to the V6 2GR-FKS engine. And also, this new engine will be overstrained and overworked in the short and long term which will result in increased engine/turbocharger failure. True, the outgoing V6 engine is not the best designed V6 on the planet but it is by far, will outlast, outperform (long-term), and out function ANY turbocharged power plant.
@deantrainr
@deantrainr 3 месяца назад
It just boils down to the power plant; i.e. the 4-cylinder turbocharged/turbocruncher engine. You just can't feel good about a small engine with the increased reliability and maintenance problems of a turbocharger crammed into a heavier/beefier chassis. You can argue til hell freezes over that Toyota has proven this engine in other vehicles and that they've been using turbocharged technology for years but this new engine will never be as reliable and dependable compared to the V6 2GR-FKS engine. And also, this new engine will be overstrained and overworked in the short and long term which will result in increased engine/turbocharger failure. True, the outgoing V6 engine is not the best designed V6 on the planet but it is by far, will outlast, outperform (long-term), and out function ANY turbocharged power plant.
@MrBharper1978
@MrBharper1978 2 месяца назад
@@deantrainrlol give it time. Boosted applications are the new norm.. hell ford and BMW boost everything. Look at the 2020-2023 GT500s.. boosted and everyone tunes them and ups the boost and makes over 1000 horsepower and they’re dead nuts reliable. This little 5-6 pounds of boost this turbo is making is literally nothing. Haha
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